Was just wondering if a tweaked out TW rom without root, flashed through Odin would that trip Knox? These days in Nexus land about half of the roms don't include root and must flash supersu through recovery. Was just curious and I have not seen the question asked.
I believe that the kernel is what trips Knox not necessarily the rom itself.
That's what I was thinking, but was curious if tweaks or debloating would also trip knox. Or if you could really do anything with a stock kernel.
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That's what I was thinking, but was curious if tweaks or debloating would also trip knox. Or if you could really do anything with a stock kernel.
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Nothing you do on a stock rom will trip knox.
Only the following will trip knox:
Root - at least until a method comes out to root without tripping
Installing a custom recovery ex. TWRP
Installing a custom kernel
Messing with the bootloader
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Simple question will restoring to stock restore Samsung pay and Knox to default. .has anyone tried yet
No. This will not work. If people read there have been warnings that tripping Knox is permanent and that tripped Knox breaks pay, it's been known and warned for some time now
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No. This will not work. If people read there have been warnings that tripping Knox is permanent and that tripped Knox breaks pay, it's been known and warned for some time now
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true statement right there :good:..... There is no coming back from it from what I have read myself... Proceed cautiously
Flashing custom images use to trip the flash counter or it would say you're not running official. AFAIK any mods to system image will trip something.
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Is there any way to remove all the bloatware without voiding the warranty,rooting, and so I can update when ICS EVENTUALLY comes out? thanks
motez23 said:
Is there any way to remove all the bloatware without voiding the warranty,rooting, and so I can update when ICS EVENTUALLY comes out? thanks
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Not that I am aware of. But if you still want to update via kies just use titanium and freeze the bloat. But I am not aware of any way to root without voiding warranty. I know there is the back to stock using Odin, along with the flash counter reset
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LiveFaster said:
Not that I am aware of. But if you still want to update via kies just use titanium and freeze the bloat. But I am not aware of any way to root without voiding warranty. I know there is the back to stock using Odin, along with the flash counter reset
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Yeah theres no way of doing it without rooting your phone. But, you are not necessarily voiding your warranty by rooting your phone. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act lets you root your phone and not void your warranty. Just root it, install a custom ROM, enjoy the hell out of it until ICS comes out (IF it ever comes out and T-Mobile decides to get off their lazy butts and do something productive). And IF it does come out, just use Odin to return to stock, and reset the flash counter. You'll be good to go.
Please post questions in the Q&A/General section. This section is for development (roms, kernel, recovery, etc.).
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Yeah theres no way of doing it without rooting your phone. But, you are not necessarily voiding your warranty by rooting your phone. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act lets you root your phone and not void your warranty. Just root it, install a custom ROM, enjoy the hell out of it until ICS comes out (IF it ever comes out and T-Mobile decides to get off their lazy butts and do something productive). And IF it does come out, just use Odin to return to stock, and reset the flash counter. You'll be good to go.
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Alright cool, and I know how to return to stock but what is this flash counter business lol.
My brother gave me his Bell locked Galaxy S4 today, so I've spent the day trying to unlock it to use on Rogers. After much reading of posts here, I managed to get it unlocked as follows:
I am no expert, though I am experienced with rooting and such. The following steps describe what I did to unlock my phone. I am not sure if all of these steps are necessary but they did work. Since I am not an expert, there is no point asking me questions if you have any problems, since I will not be able to help. Of course, some of these steps can void warranty, and could brick your phone if done improperly. I am not responsible for anything bad that happens.
1) Download and flash stock Columbia 4.2.2 rom with Odin (i used 3.09)
2) Root with CF-Auto Root
3) Flash Clockwork Mod (I use Caboomi's img2tar for this)
4) Get rid of KNOX by "installing" DE-KNOX zip in CWM (DE-SAMSUNGNIZER_KNOX_REMOVAL_SCRIPT_V2.0)
5) Download Chainfire's RegionLock Away, install and run
6) Restart and success!
7) Finally, I flashed the current (4.4.2) firmware of the provider I switched to (Rogers), as I was having problems with the phone and some other things. This seems to be operating properly now.
Note: I was able to install 4.2.2 rom even though I was unable to downgrade to 4.3. (Fail to flash aboot like many people get) I assume this is because the 4.2.2 rom does not modify aboot. Also, Chainfire states the RegionLock Away only works for the Note 3, however many people have used it successfully on the S4 as well. It did not work for me on 4.4.2, so I'm guessing either installing 4.2.2, or removing KNOX, or both got it to work.
I hope this helps some people. If it does, thank the developers who made everything above!
What firmware where you on when u began? 4.4.2? Or earlier?
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I don't think KNOX affects the sim locking and unlocking. I know for sure that RegionLockAway works in 4.2.2 because I downgraded my phone to that rom and unlocked it...without doing any of the KNOX related stuff.
I think this method you are using trips the KNOX fuse when you downgrade from KitKat.
OK but how did u downgrade? I don't care about the Knox flag mine is tripped I just want to get back to 4.2 so I can use real custom Roms. Everything I have seen suggests you cannot downgrade
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OK but how did u downgrade? I don't care about the Knox flag mine is tripped I just want to get back to 4.2 so I can use real custom Roms. Everything I have seen suggests you cannot downgrade
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I downgraded to 4.2.2 by simply using ODIN. This process will trip the fuse. The trick in getting it to work is to clear all of the leftover files from 4.4.2 after the flash. You can't boot directly into the system after the flash. You have to go into recovery mode and do a factory reset. If you don't do this, the system wouldn't boot as what everyone is finding.
So do I need to do a nand erase or something? Or just regular flash then boot into recovery factory reset then flash again? Cuz I would love to get back to 4.2 and start flashing custom Roms agaib
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So do I need to do a nand erase or something? Or just regular flash then boot into recovery factory reset then flash again? Cuz I would love to get back to 4.2 and start flashing custom Roms agaib
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Just a simple factory reset should do.
So nothing for 4.4.2 directly? We have to downgrade? Thanks
I have been rooted and using custom ROMs since the Evo 4G days. Always an early step is to install a custom recovery. Well I have a GS5 and have it rooted (towel root) so my KNOX is still virgin. For the time being, I am trying to keep it that way. I just realized that there is a stock recovery and it has options to flash upgrades from memory. Can I flash updates without tripping my KNOX? Obviously I can't do kernels or ROMs or a recovery, but can I do theme type and hotspot mods?
Bob
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I have been rooted and using custom ROMs since the Evo 4G days. Always an early step is to install a custom recovery. Well I have a GS5 and have it rooted (towel root) so my KNOX is still virgin. For the time being, I am trying to keep it that way. I just realized that there is a stock recovery and it has options to flash upgrades from memory. Can I flash updates without tripping my KNOX? Obviously I can't do kernels or ROMs or a recovery, but can I do theme type and hotspot mods?
Bob
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Most mods I've seen for this phone and post s2 phones(when recovery and kernel became separated), mods, tweaks, themes, etc, are in .zip format and have to be flashed through custom recovery to take. And as you know, flashing recovery well trip Knox.
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Thanks, If they don't find a way to get around KNOX soon, I will break down and flash a recovery, but for now, I have learned (and am still learning) how to take zips apart and manually install. So far mostly changing icons and such, but that is slow and somewhat tedious. And I am still having problems getting smali changes to work.
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Thanks, If they don't find a way to get around KNOX soon, I will break down and flash a recovery, but for now, I have learned (and am still learning) how to take zips apart and manually install. So far mostly changing icons and such, but that is slow and somewhat tedious. And I am still having problems getting smali changes to work.
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Some of the best devs I know can't crack it, so unfortunately I think Knox is here to stay my friend. Good luck! But I say, embrace the change, lol.
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Some of the best devs I know can't crack it, so unfortunately I think Knox is here to stay my friend. Good luck! But I say, embrace the change, lol.
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There is no such thing as a lock that can't be picked, or a code that can't be broken. I hold out hope. So far I have had good luck making my mods manually. I like doing it my way anyway. Then I get EXACTLY what I want. lol
Thanks again for the info.
Hello all,
I just joined Sprint last week, and received my S5 on Friday. After two days I had had it with touchwiz, bloatware and bad battery life. So I set out on a quest to root it without tripping KNOX today.
Only to spend hours researching and finally realizing that my BOG1 fw prevents me from downgrading.
So is my only option to use CW's Auto Root and trip KNOX in the process? Really I would rather have a custom recovery but it would be nice to be able to revert to stock if I ever need to return the phone for repair or TEP replacement.
NEVERMIND. Said Eff it and rooted it with auto root.
The7thcircle said:
Hello all,
I just joined Sprint last week, and received my S5 on Friday. After two days I had had it with touchwiz, bloatware and bad battery life. So I set out on a quest to root it without tripping KNOX today.
Only to spend hours researching and finally realizing that my BOG1 fw prevents me from downgrading.
So is my only option to use CW's Auto Root and trip KNOX in the process? Really I would rather have a custom recovery but it would be nice to be able to revert to stock if I ever need to return the phone for repair or TEP replacement.
NEVERMIND. Said Eff it and rooted it with auto root.
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If you take it to Sprint for repair, just make sure you odin the stock tar and you shouldn't have any issues...at least I never have. Yeah, the no trip knox for root I think went out when the lollipop update came out.
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If you take it to Sprint for repair, just make sure you odin the stock tar and you shouldn't have any issues...at least I never have. Yeah, the no trip knox for root I think went out when the lollipop update came out.
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You are correct. Can't root without tripping knox anymore.
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Yeah, lousy updates.
Oh well, now knox 0x1, but happily rooted and running MOAR 7.0. I did run a backup of the OEM image before installing.
Doesn't triangle away work?
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zmedhaug said:
Doesn't triangle away work?
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Not on knox.
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The7thcircle said:
Yeah, lousy updates.
Oh well, now knox 0x1, but happily rooted and running MOAR 7.0. I did run a backup of the OEM image before installing.
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is moar 7.0 that much better than 6.2? ive been running it for a while now and am pretty darn pleased
Ok, so this is my first device with a locked boot loader, and the concept of flash fire is completely foreign to me. I couldn't find a good guide that answered my question, so here goes nothing...
I was able to root of1 using king root. Got super su working, and installed flash fire. Now, my question is am I able to flash a Rom if it's based on OE1?
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Ok, so this is my first device with a locked boot loader, and the concept of flash fire is completely foreign to me. I couldn't find a good guide that answered my question, so here goes nothing...
I was able to root of1 using king root. Got super su working, and installed flash fire. Now, my question is am I able to flash a Rom if it's based on OE1?
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I wouldn't try. I'm not a developer, but from what I've read there isn't any back-flashing from of1 without bricking.
dmosley said:
I wouldn't try. I'm not a developer, but from what I've read there isn't any back-flashing from of1 without bricking.
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Yea, that was my fear too.
But from what I think I know about flashfire, it doesn't touch the bootloader, just the /system partition.
I also think that all the brick-related warnings were if you tried to flash an earlier build through odin/download mode. If Flashfire is just flashing a ROM on /system I would think there would be no brick issues.
Perhaps this is a question better aimed at a developer, as I'm only guessing here.
But I GUESS, going from OF1 to OE2 would be substantially similar as going from OE2 to OC3. Right?
Can anyone else confirm that they have OF1 and are able to root?
...or, is anyone else still on OF1?
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Can anyone else confirm that they have OF1 and are able to root?
...or, is anyone else still on OF1?
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Kingsroot doesn't support 920V.
seriously guys.. i don't think Vzw and AT&T s6 community would keep something like rooting OF1 an unannounced story.
I used Kingroot within the last 1-2 weeks to get root on my S6 running OF1. I then got SuperSU up and running, verified with root checker, Terminal Emulator, and have been using Titanium Backup to freeze/delete tons of bloatware.
There is a dev (elliwigy) willing to build a ROM based on OF1, but is looking for verification of root from other users first. Thread here If you have OF1 and are able to root please let me know and comment in the thread too.
So... Nobody else running OF1, huh?
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I think it's because people don't want to trip Knox which is why no one is responding. When King Root was released, people stayed away from it mostly because that reason.
As far as I can tell, knox has not been tripped.
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As far as I can tell, knox has not been tripped.
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I don't see that screen "Phone INFO" on my Verizon Galaxy S6. Are you using an App to produce that screen?
Mike
Mikej69 said:
I don't see that screen "Phone INFO" on my Verizon Galaxy S6. Are you using an App to produce that screen?
Mike
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Sorry, it's an app, called "phone info"
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