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To root or not

I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.

If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!

All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?

Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.

You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.

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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.

buhohitr said:
Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class

If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing

I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?

You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?

binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free

Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest

ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.

buhohitr said:
There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest

[Q] Stuck on 4.3

Ok so I never messed around with rooting until my phone got the 4.3 update the other night. I decided I hated the update so much that I did the saferoot method, and I'm now rooted.
Only after I did that did I discover that my bootloader is perma-locked and I can't try to unroot or rollback the android version or I'll hardbrick. I can't do roms. Essentially I can't fix what I rooted in order to fix, and trying to enter recovery mode and odin mode lights me up with a verizon warning. So:
1. Just what can I do SAFELY now that I'm rooted? I've already used titanium to uninstall the verizon apps, but I don't know what I'm doing beyond that to remove bloatware/make this thing faster.
2. Will there be a time in the future when I'll be able to totally unlock my phone and escape Verizon's tyranny even though I took the 4.3 OTA? I want to make it look like stock nexus android.
Thanks for any and all help!

1. That's about it. Maybe use Xposed and the Greenify module to hibernate apps that typically drain your battery. Can't do much more besides remove apps on TW 4.3.
2. Possibly or possibly never. Nobody knows if the Knox Bootloader and extra security checks put forth by Verizon will be overcome.
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I use Greenify to hibernate apps I sometimes use and titanium backup to freeze apps I never use. I don't uninstall them just in case. It's running great for me, much better than 4.1.2
I know you can't downgrade from 4.3, but you can't unroot either?
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The Arbiter said:
Ok so I never messed around with rooting until my phone got the 4.3 update the other night. I decided I hated the update so much that I did the saferoot method, and I'm now rooted.
Only after I did that did I discover that my bootloader is perma-locked and I can't try to unroot or rollback the android version or I'll hardbrick. I can't do roms. Essentially I can't fix what I rooted in order to fix, and trying to enter recovery mode and odin mode lights me up with a verizon warning. So:
1. Just what can I do SAFELY now that I'm rooted? I've already used titanium to uninstall the verizon apps, but I don't know what I'm doing beyond that to remove bloatware/make this thing faster.
2. Will there be a time in the future when I'll be able to totally unlock my phone and escape Verizon's tyranny even though I took the 4.3 OTA? I want to make it look like stock nexus android.
Thanks for any and all help!
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go back to this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758 Lots of comments on how to unroot if that is what you want. and give the DEVs some time, there will be a method, there is usually one found after a while. OR stick with what you have for a while, i can make mine look just like my rooted version with little variation, and stock isn't too bad, so far.
be patient grasshopper...

Would I be able to Odin back to 4.1.2 so I can re root, unlock bootloader and flash custom ROM's again? Thanks

bmatty14 said:
Would I be able to Odin back to 4.1.2 so I can re root, unlock bootloader and flash custom ROM's again? Thanks
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No. If you took the 4.3 OTA you are stuck on it. You will hard brick your device if you try to Odin back to 4.1.2. Been mentioned tons of times in numerous threads.
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The Arbiter said:
Ok so I never messed around with rooting until my phone got the 4.3 update the other night. I decided I hated the update so much that I did the saferoot method, and I'm now rooted.
Only after I did that did I discover that my bootloader is perma-locked and I can't try to unroot or rollback the android version or I'll hardbrick. I can't do roms. Essentially I can't fix what I rooted in order to fix, and trying to enter recovery mode and odin mode lights me up with a verizon warning. So:
1. Just what can I do SAFELY now that I'm rooted? I've already used titanium to uninstall the verizon apps, but I don't know what I'm doing beyond that to remove bloatware/make this thing faster.
2. Will there be a time in the future when I'll be able to totally unlock my phone and escape Verizon's tyranny even though I took the 4.3 OTA? I want to make it look like stock nexus android.
Thanks for any and all help!
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Same situation...I flashed Stock_rooted_4.3 after taking the OTA and my phone said unauthorized software detected, take to Verizon. Luckily I found the original image and it flashed back to totally stock 4.3 build ML1.
Basic root would be fine for now so would you please link me to the method you used if you are also on ML1?
Thanks

LordAlexx said:
Same situation...I flashed Stock_rooted_4.3 after taking the OTA and my phone said unauthorized software detected, take to Verizon. Luckily I found the original image and it flashed back to totally stock 4.3 build ML1.
Basic root would be fine for now so would you please link me to the method you used if you are also on ML1?
Thanks
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here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
saferoot is discovered for Galaxy S4 but can be use safely on S3 also.

buhohitr said:
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
saferoot is discovered for Galaxy S4 but can be use safely on S3 also.
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OK cool...just wanted to be sure; I am subscribed to that thread. Just gotta get ADB to see the phone. Everything else works via USB in all modes, kinda odd.
Thanks!

[Q] S3 mom issues

Hello, I have a galaxy s4 but my mom has a galaxy s3. I rooted and put a rom on there for her 9 months ago so she is on 4.1.2 with the bootloader before the put knox on. She is visiting for 2 days so I dont exactly have the time to spend reading all day to figure this out.
I dont really see a reason for her needing root, so if I just odin here the new Verizon firmware with knox and wiped the phone will she be returned to stock like nothing happened. Will she be able to resevie updates through Verizon still after?
Would it be easier just to flash a new rom and just wait to i see her again in a year to update it?
If i did just flash a newer rom I should probably stay away from knox if possible right?
Thanks for the help.

Aoe316 said:
Hello, I have a galaxy s4 but my mom has a galaxy s3. I rooted and put a rom on there for her 9 months ago so she is on 4.1.2 with the bootloader before the put knox on. She is visiting for 2 days so I dont exactly have the time to spend reading all day to figure this out.
I dont really see a reason for her needing root, so if I just odin here the new Verizon firmware with knox and wiped the phone will she be returned to stock like nothing happened. Will she be able to resevie updates through Verizon still after?
Would it be easier just to flash a new rom and just wait to i see her again in a year to update it?
If i did just flash a newer rom I should probably stay away from knox if possible right?
Thanks for the help.
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If you ask me it sounds like she doesn't really care so stock should work fine for her. If you go that way make sure you use triangle away before you Odin. Also if you plan to upgrade her to 4.3 you should just Odin right to it because the ota will change settings and make the phone buggy until a factory reset is done.

Thanks man
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OF1, rooted. Flashfire??

Ok, so this is my first device with a locked boot loader, and the concept of flash fire is completely foreign to me. I couldn't find a good guide that answered my question, so here goes nothing...
I was able to root of1 using king root. Got super su working, and installed flash fire. Now, my question is am I able to flash a Rom if it's based on OE1?
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Droid_JD said:
Ok, so this is my first device with a locked boot loader, and the concept of flash fire is completely foreign to me. I couldn't find a good guide that answered my question, so here goes nothing...
I was able to root of1 using king root. Got super su working, and installed flash fire. Now, my question is am I able to flash a Rom if it's based on OE1?
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I wouldn't try. I'm not a developer, but from what I've read there isn't any back-flashing from of1 without bricking.

dmosley said:
I wouldn't try. I'm not a developer, but from what I've read there isn't any back-flashing from of1 without bricking.
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Yea, that was my fear too.
But from what I think I know about flashfire, it doesn't touch the bootloader, just the /system partition.
I also think that all the brick-related warnings were if you tried to flash an earlier build through odin/download mode. If Flashfire is just flashing a ROM on /system I would think there would be no brick issues.
Perhaps this is a question better aimed at a developer, as I'm only guessing here.
But I GUESS, going from OF1 to OE2 would be substantially similar as going from OE2 to OC3. Right?

Can anyone else confirm that they have OF1 and are able to root?
...or, is anyone else still on OF1?

Droid_JD said:
Can anyone else confirm that they have OF1 and are able to root?
...or, is anyone else still on OF1?
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Kingsroot doesn't support 920V.
seriously guys.. i don't think Vzw and AT&T s6 community would keep something like rooting OF1 an unannounced story.

I used Kingroot within the last 1-2 weeks to get root on my S6 running OF1. I then got SuperSU up and running, verified with root checker, Terminal Emulator, and have been using Titanium Backup to freeze/delete tons of bloatware.
There is a dev (elliwigy) willing to build a ROM based on OF1, but is looking for verification of root from other users first. Thread here If you have OF1 and are able to root please let me know and comment in the thread too.

So... Nobody else running OF1, huh?
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I think it's because people don't want to trip Knox which is why no one is responding. When King Root was released, people stayed away from it mostly because that reason.

As far as I can tell, knox has not been tripped.

Droid_JD said:
As far as I can tell, knox has not been tripped.
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I don't see that screen "Phone INFO" on my Verizon Galaxy S6. Are you using an App to produce that screen?
Mike

Mikej69 said:
I don't see that screen "Phone INFO" on my Verizon Galaxy S6. Are you using an App to produce that screen?
Mike
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Sorry, it's an app, called "phone info"
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Reset counter to 0x0 on knox?

Im about to send my phone to warranty and not sure if they would take it non rooted factory stock tar. Anyone confirm?

Your question is little confusing. If the phone was rooted then Knox was tripped and there is no way to reset it. I assume you returned your phone back to stock using a stock tar file. If you are sending to sprint for warranty they most likely well not look if Knox is tripped (But you never know). Samsung warranty i'm pretty sure they will check.

Evilone69tmg said:
Your question is little confusing. If the phone was rooted then Knox was tripped and there is no way to reset it. I assume you returned your phone back to stock using a stock tar file. If you are sending to sprint for warranty they most likely well not look if Knox is tripped (But you never know). Samsung warranty i'm pretty sure they will check.
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Yes i flashed a original tar file allready i was wondering if there was a reset option like triangle away but havent find one and it seems that it doesnt exist..i was hoping it did..i wonder if is even possible..thanks anyway

smallyetzon said:
Yes i flashed a original tar file allready i was wondering if there was a reset option like triangle away but havent find one and it seems that it doesnt exist..i was hoping it did..i wonder if is even possible..thanks anyway
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Nope. Once you trip knox there's no going back unfortunately.

smallyetzon said:
Im about to send my phone to warranty and not sure if they would take it non rooted factory stock tar. Anyone confirm?
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Sent mine in under warranty for broken LCD to Samsung with knox tripped but stock image flashed and they repaired it and sent back for no charge. Not sure for others but worked for me.