I have been rooted and using custom ROMs since the Evo 4G days. Always an early step is to install a custom recovery. Well I have a GS5 and have it rooted (towel root) so my KNOX is still virgin. For the time being, I am trying to keep it that way. I just realized that there is a stock recovery and it has options to flash upgrades from memory. Can I flash updates without tripping my KNOX? Obviously I can't do kernels or ROMs or a recovery, but can I do theme type and hotspot mods?
Bob
ParrSt said:
I have been rooted and using custom ROMs since the Evo 4G days. Always an early step is to install a custom recovery. Well I have a GS5 and have it rooted (towel root) so my KNOX is still virgin. For the time being, I am trying to keep it that way. I just realized that there is a stock recovery and it has options to flash upgrades from memory. Can I flash updates without tripping my KNOX? Obviously I can't do kernels or ROMs or a recovery, but can I do theme type and hotspot mods?
Bob
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Most mods I've seen for this phone and post s2 phones(when recovery and kernel became separated), mods, tweaks, themes, etc, are in .zip format and have to be flashed through custom recovery to take. And as you know, flashing recovery well trip Knox.
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Thanks, If they don't find a way to get around KNOX soon, I will break down and flash a recovery, but for now, I have learned (and am still learning) how to take zips apart and manually install. So far mostly changing icons and such, but that is slow and somewhat tedious. And I am still having problems getting smali changes to work.
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Thanks, If they don't find a way to get around KNOX soon, I will break down and flash a recovery, but for now, I have learned (and am still learning) how to take zips apart and manually install. So far mostly changing icons and such, but that is slow and somewhat tedious. And I am still having problems getting smali changes to work.
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Some of the best devs I know can't crack it, so unfortunately I think Knox is here to stay my friend. Good luck! But I say, embrace the change, lol.
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jdsingle76 said:
Some of the best devs I know can't crack it, so unfortunately I think Knox is here to stay my friend. Good luck! But I say, embrace the change, lol.
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There is no such thing as a lock that can't be picked, or a code that can't be broken. I hold out hope. So far I have had good luck making my mods manually. I like doing it my way anyway. Then I get EXACTLY what I want. lol
Thanks again for the info.
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dear all,
has anybody tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940630
Already rooted, going to try it on a demo phone at work,
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I tried it today works great, thanks posting it here i wanted root but didnt want unlock it.
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Thanks a lot for confirming this as I am in the same boat. I will eventually unlock based on the fact that I hear you can't have custom recovery unless you unlock. I also came from a samsung epic and I haven't quite gotten the moto lingo down so I don't quite follow the boot and fastboot stuff yet. I think i have pieced together that moto has a better stock recovery than Samsung therefor you don't necessarily need a custom recovery to flash stuff if unlocked, but please correct me if I have assumed to much. Thx again.
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bryanfritz1 said:
Thanks a lot for confirming this as I am in the same boat. I will eventually unlock based on the fact that I hear you can't have custom recovery unless you unlock. I also came from a samsung epic and I haven't quite gotten the moto lingo down so I don't quite follow the boot and fastboot stuff yet. I think i have pieced together that moto has a better stock recovery than Samsung therefor you don't necessarily need a custom recovery to flash stuff if unlocked, but please correct me if I have assumed to much. Thx again.
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I unlocked and trashed the stock recovery and ported TWRP immediately after getting the device...
BUT with that said, typically stock recoveries will only flash signed/stock stuffs. So I doubt you'll be able to install anything aftermarket with their stock recovery... Obviously I don't know if this is true or not, I never even had stock reco on long enough to find out .
This worked great for me. No unlocked bootloader prior to running the script.
Now if only I could get wifi tether working...
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Thanks a lot for confirming this as I am in the same boat. I will eventually unlock based on the fact that I hear you can't have custom recovery unless you unlock. I also came from a samsung epic and I haven't quite gotten the moto lingo down so I don't quite follow the boot and fastboot stuff yet. I think i have pieced together that moto has a better stock recovery than Samsung therefor you don't necessarily need a custom recovery to flash stuff if unlocked, but please correct me if I have assumed to much. Thx again.
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no stock recovery can flash OTA's and thats all
i was wondering how long it would take people to find this . reason why i dindt post it? next OTA that comes and wipes it out youve gutta wait until a new exploit is found... or unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery.
Install ota rootkeeper from the market and you will keep root through an update. Works great. I obviously haven't used the app on the photon q but it worked on a few other devices.
Having said that, sometimes updates come with different bootloaders and sometimes you don't want a newer bootloader.
So, I just got an insurance replacement device and it has 4.3 on it. I looked around before just trying to root because I figured Vzw would have done something to break root. I just didn't realize how bad they'd get. Anyway, I know i need to use saferoot and then install safestrap and then maybe I can get CleanROM8 on this thing.
However I have a question. How does the kernel work with safestrap? When I install Scotts ROM will it get a new Kernel? Can I install lk? I've searched quite a bit and haven't found a clear answer.
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So, I just got an insurance replacement device and it has 4.3 on it. I looked around before just trying to root because I figured Vzw would have done something to break root. I just didn't realize how bad they'd get. Anyway, I know i need to use saferoot and then install safestrap and then maybe I can get CleanROM8 on this thing.
However I have a question. How does the kernel work with safestrap? When I install Scotts ROM will it get a new Kernel? Can I install lk? I've searched quite a bit and haven't found a clear answer.
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U can only install 4.3 TW VRUCML1 based ROMS. I just installed wicked sensations and it is smooth as hell and has the native Sprint hotspot hack. If I'm not mistaken cleanRom is wrapped in Aroma installer. You can't use any custom kernels. CleanRom comes with the recompiled stock kernel by scrosler. Be sure to flash the ML1 modem Module AFTER u install the Rom. Safestrap won't let u install over your stock slot. But I would advise you to make a nandroid before you flash anything.
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U can only install 4.3 TW VRUCML1 based ROMS. I just installed wicked sensations and it is smooth as hell and has the native Sprint hotspot hack. If I'm not mistaken cleanRom is wrapped in Aroma installer. You can't use any custom kernels. CleanRom comes with the recompiled stock kernel by scrosler. Be sure to flash the ML1 modem Module AFTER u install the Rom. Safestrap won't let u install over your stock slot. But I would advise you to make a nandroid before you flash anything.
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Awesome, Thanks for the Info. I took a look at wicked sensations and it looks like I'd just install it to an empty ROM slot in SafeStrap and then I'm good to go? CleanROM says he's had luck with safestrap as well so I wonder if i can try it.
Can I hardbrick so long as I use an empty slot in safestrap. (and stay FAR away from the stock slot)?
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Awesome, Thanks for the Info. I took a look at wicked sensations and it looks like I'd just install it to an empty ROM slot in SafeStrap and then I'm good to go? CleanROM says he's had luck with safestrap as well so I wonder if i can try it.
Can I hardbrick so long as I use an empty slot in safestrap. (and stay FAR away from the stock slot)?
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It will ask you how big u want to make your data and cache partitions of your Rom-slot, the bigger you make it, the less space u have on internal storage. Once u create it, you activate it. Then go in and install ROM (flash zip from sdcard). After you do that immediately flash the ML1 MODEM MODULE IN YOUR ROM-SLOT, this will ensure that your Wi-Fi and data will work. After you do all of that, Reboot. DON'T PANIC IF THE FIRST BOOT TAKES A WHILE AND SYSTEM UI MAY CRASH ON FIRST BOOT. DON'T WORRY, JUST HIT OK AND WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. TAKE THE TIME TO REINSTALL ALL YOUR APPS FROM PLAY STORE. APPLYING BACKUPS CAN HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS. PATIENCE IS KEY WITH SAFESTRAP.
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING OVER YOUR STOCK SLOT! HARD BRICK IS IMMINENT IF U DO SO! SO YEAH, AS LONG AS YOU STAY FAR AWAY FROM THAT STOCK SLOT YOU'RE GOOD! Wicked Sensations is running very good for me. Plus, I like the hotspot hack. Any questions, I can pm me.
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It will ask you how big u want to make your data and cache partitions of your Rom-slot, the bigger you make it, the less space u have on internal storage. Once u create it, you activate it. Then go in and install ROM (flash zip from sdcard). After you do that immediately flash the ML1 MODEM MODULE IN YOUR ROM-SLOT, this will ensure that your Wi-Fi and data will work. After you do all of that, Reboot. DON'T PANIC IF THE FIRST BOOT TAKES A WHILE AND SYSTEM UI MAY CRASH ON FIRST BOOT. DON'T WORRY, JUST HIT OK AND WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. TAKE THE TIME TO REINSTALL ALL YOUR APPS FROM PLAY STORE. APPLYING BACKUPS CAN HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS. PATIENCE IS KEY WITH SAFESTRAP.
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING OVER YOUR STOCK SLOT! HARD BRICK IS IMMINENT IF U DO SO! SO YEAH, AS LONG AS YOU STAY FAR AWAY FROM THAT STOCK SLOT YOU'RE GOOD! Wicked Sensations is running very good for me. Plus, I like the hotspot hack. Any questions, I can pm me.
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Thanks for all your help ATGkompressor but I no longer need safestrap. The phone I got that had ML1 on it had the screen die so I had to call for a second replacement and thankfully it had an older unlockable boot loader. I have full unlock and root now.
MajicManDroid said:
Thanks for all your help ATGkompressor but I no longer need safestrap. The phone I got that had ML1 on it had the screen die so I had to call for a second replacement and thankfully it had an older unlockable boot loader. I have full unlock and root now.
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you're a lucky son of...th..b..
MajicManDroid said:
Thanks for all your help ATGkompressor but I no longer need safestrap. The phone I got that had ML1 on it had the screen die so I had to call for a second replacement and thankfully it had an older unlockable boot loader. I have full unlock and root now.
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U got lucky. I'm just gonna get a cracked screen s3 and take the board out and put it in my phone. It has 4.1 on it so I can be free.
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I have a Galaxy S3 I rooted a long time ago, and whenever I tried to flash ROMs to it I kept getting the triangle--Triangle Away did nothing to help this. Anyway, I finally did some digging around with Odin and got it back from the triangle screen and forgot about it. Well, lately, I have missed my ROM flashing days from when I had an HTC Incredible, and decided to re-root, which worked great.
Then I flashed CWM using Root Tools in the Play Store. When I booted into recovery, it went to the triangle screen. Damn. THEN I decided to browse the XDA forums, and it would appear that if your phone took the 4.3 update, you're hosed and you can't do really anything. So now I am trying to get my phone back to working status.
Anyway, if you can't flash CM11 or other ROMs, what is the point of rooting the 4.3?
Thanks for your kind responses...
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I have a Galaxy S3 I rooted a long time ago, and whenever I tried to flash ROMs to it I kept getting the triangle--Triangle Away did nothing to help this. Anyway, I finally did some digging around with Odin and got it back from the triangle screen and forgot about it. Well, lately, I have missed my ROM flashing days from when I had an HTC Incredible, and decided to re-root, which worked great.
Then I flashed CWM using Root Tools in the Play Store. When I booted into recovery, it went to the triangle screen. Damn. THEN I decided to browse the XDA forums, and it would appear that if your phone took the 4.3 update, you're hosed and you can't do really anything. So now I am trying to get my phone back to working status.
Anyway, if you can't flash CM11 or other ROMs, what is the point of rooting the 4.3?
Thanks for your kind responses...
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Root access does a lot of things:
Reasons to root 4.3:
Debloating
Running rooted apps
Xposed framework with modules
Custom theming
Tethering
Custom TouchWiz roms
App back ups
Nandroids
Performance scripts
Audio mods
.....
I could go on much longer.
Not having aosp isn't the worst thing in the world, especially when you still have good stock development on a device.
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Root access does a lot of things:
Reasons to root 4.3:
Debloating
Running rooted apps
Xposed framework with modules
Custom theming
Tethering
Custom TouchWiz roms
App back ups
Nandroids
Performance scripts
Audio mods
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I could go on much longer.
Not having aosp isn't the worst thing in the world, especially when you still have good stock development on a device.
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Well, this has me a little spooked, I guess. The Incredible was so easy, even the Rezound was easy. It seems like VZW REALLY does not want us messing with their toys.
tmettler5 said:
Well, this has me a little spooked, I guess. The Incredible was so easy, even the Rezound was easy. It seems like VZW REALLY does not want us messing with their toys.
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It's really not all that difficult.
Basically, No unlocking bootloader, No flashing custom recoveries (except safestrap) , No flashing custom kernels, but everything you need is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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BadUsername said:
It's really not all that difficult.
Basically, No unlocking bootloader, No flashing custom recoveries (except safestrap) , No flashing custom kernels, but everything you need is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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Yeah, I saw that. I just need to read more...
I'll add a big one for me: ad blocking. After spending so long on a rooted device with ad-blocking, you really get spoiled.
If you are using the Straight Talk Galaxy S4 with build number
JSS15J.S975LUDUANB1 and just want root and simple recovery
You can root using towelroot.
SuperSU will also deactivate Knox.
Safestrap version 3.72 works for getting a proper recovery installed with the option at boot for system or recovery. Note that it will say safestrap is disabled but will still allow your choice to boot into recovery.
Make a backup in recovery as soon as you can.
Or if you want awesomeness!! Do THIS!!
Here is the definitive guide for those wondering what to do that will work and be stable and AWESOME!
From the beginning:
1.Root with towelroot (search) AND install SuperSU from the play store.
2.Install the latest recovery from here using the DD method listed directions from the TWRP site. This is from T-Mobile and works! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263001
MAKE A BACKUP!!! DO IT! No more messing around with Safestrap and the bitter warnings!
To get into recovery hold "home+volume up" during boot. Whoooo!!!!
3. Install the Lollipop gpe ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539361
This uses the aroma installer and works well.
You may, or may not have to input *#6463*# into dialpad to change settings to LTE etc.. This adjustment may alsobe in the ROM settings!
4. Optional - install the googy kernel
I like this kernel better though there isn't a huge difference from the hulk kernel. Make sure to install the GE edition 1.3.0. NOT TOUCHWHIZ! : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741181
ENJOY!
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If you are using the Straight Talk Galaxy S4 with build number
JSS15J.S975LUDUANB1,
You can root using towelroot.
SuperSU will also deactivate Knox.
Safestrap version 3.72 works for getting a proper recovery installed with the option at boot for system or recovery. Note that it will say safestrap is disabled but will still allow your choice to boot into recovery.
Make a backup in recovery as soon as you can.
The zip to allow tethering WILL NOT work, and you will be stuck on the Samsung logo.
Xposed works well, but do not use the option in gravity box to add the recovery option to your power menu or your device will freeze upon pressing the power button.
Greenify works well.
Advise against ROM installation, as well as initial upgrade. You will lose app to SD ability if you upgrade.
The boot loader is not unlocked, so no cool kernels here
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I was able to use towelroot and my att s4 is running on the att towers with straight talk.
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I was able to use towelroot and my att s4 is running on the att towers with straight talk.
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Have you downloaded safestrap? Or tried anything with Xposed?
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Have you downloaded safestrap? Or tried anything with Xposed?
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No not yet, I just got the phone so I haven't done a lot to it yet. I was able to get tethering working and it was pretty easy and I got a nice extended battery case for it yesterday that I love. Other than that I haven't had time to do a lot else to it.
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No not yet, I just got the phone so I haven't done a lot to it yet. I was able to get tethering working and it was pretty easy and I got a nice extended battery case for it yesterday that I love. Other than that I haven't had time to do a lot else to it.
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Can you tell me what you did for tethering? I tried once but was unable to get it to work.
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Can you tell me what you did for tethering? I tried once but was unable to get it to work.
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sure, i have a how to vid but i am waiting on the mod to approve it so i can post it. it definately works on the newest updated att phone
mrphotoman said:
sure, i have a how to vid but i am waiting on the mod to approve it so i can post it. it definately works on the newest updated att phone
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Excellent! Please post a link to it here as well when you get it uploaded
Updated
See first post
I used tmo twrp. Flashed tmo and att roms. I also have the Odin file. I am not sure but I am on the s975L which I thought was att not sure but pretty sure. However it also says i337 underbattery ...I've tried more tmo roms than anything. No safestrap but I might try that later. Seems we don't have locked bootloader. This is great. However unlock is next for me. Having a blast hacking the hell out of it. So far I have had no issues. Again I'm not new to this. Lol. It's an addiction. I have sprint note 4 as my DD. So this is my fix. Lmao.
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Droid2drummer said:
I used tmo twrp. Flashed tmo and att roms. I also have the Odin file. I am not sure but I am on the s975L which I thought was att not sure but pretty sure. However it also says i337 underbattery ...I've tried more tmo roms than anything. No safestrap but I might try that later. Seems we don't have locked bootloader. This is great. However unlock is next for me. Having a blast hacking the hell out of it. So far I have had no issues. Again I'm not new to this. Lol. It's an addiction. I have sprint note 4 as my DD. So this is my fix. Lmao.
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As far as I know, the bootloader IS locked, but can be bypassed using Loki to patch kernels for custom roms. Glad to see somebody else on this phone
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As far as I know, the bootloader IS locked, but can be bypassed using Loki to patch kernels for custom roms. Glad to see somebody else on this phone
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That's strange. If it was locked I wonder how I've used tmo twrp no loki or SS and flashed tons of roms so far...I just odined back from a modem issue. But rerooted now off to get some modems etc...boot and all. I'll keep reporting. Thank you bro. I maintain many devices and carriers and am about to start a channel on YouTube. I do music writing now with keyboard. Now I'm just getting a hand on s4 straight talk and will make a list of all working roms.
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That's strange. If it was locked I wonder how I've used tmo twrp no loki or SS and flashed tons of roms so far...I just odined back from a modem issue. But rerooted now off to get some modems etc...boot and all. I'll keep reporting. Thank you bro. I maintain many devices and carriers and am about to start a channel on YouTube. I do music writing now with keyboard. Now I'm just getting a hand on s4 straight talk and will make a list of all working roms.
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True.. I don't know as much about it as I like. I just wasn't able to use fastboot or "unlock" using fastboot.
If you are working with the modems let me know how that goes, and maybe you can help with an issue I'm having? My GPS won't work after trying a ROM with safestrap. What I've posted here is a result of trying to fix it. I consistently show NO satellites. I consulted the local phone fixers to no avail. I was wondering if it could be related to a modem issue? I think the ROM I first tried did something deep to my phone, though Phone Info showed at the time everything to be original concerning baseband etc.. And a factory reset didn't help.
I'm at the point now of thinking its hardware rather than software but the coincidence to trying the ROM was too high.
Hey everyone!
I am working with this phone and am trying to get a backup modem, can you please ,make a suggestion?
Also are there any ROMs that allow easy access to umts menu through servicemenu? I know the base firmware cripples this and I'm trying to get a work around!
thanks in advanced!
So I have always rooted my phones in the past.
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 because well, it needed KitKat and Samsung is lame...
Now I am faced with the decision to root or not to root. My N5 is awesome it has Full support and is the raw experience I want, rooting would let me have a little more fun in the way of mods and tweaks, but all the problems everyone seems to be having is kinda putting me off so I guess I just need help.
Also there is a difference between unlocking boot loader and rooting, does the unlocking void warranty?
All guides and info threads are linked in my signature and will answer almost all your questions
I'm not sure of all these "problems" you're referring to. Basically, idiots have the most problems. Normal people don't really have any
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rootSU said:
Basically, idiots have the most problems. Normal people don't really have any
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this. i have been rooted since day one and have ZERO problems.
I think this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54746284&postcount=8
Applies here too, what do you think, @rootSU?
Right. Root doesn't modify files that can cause an issue assuming you're doing it right. I'd highly recommend NOT using a toolkit and rooting yourself and unlocking the bootloader yourself, it assures nothing goes wrong and you get some experience.
rootSU's guide are a treasure trove of information, take a looksie.
unlocking the bootloader lets you flash a custom recovery to flash things, it has nothing to do with root. you can flash any roms or kernels you want, without root. all root does is give you permission to change system files. and you would flash the root zip in your new recovery once you unlock the bootloader.
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unlocking the bootloader lets you flash a custom recovery to flash things, it has nothing to do with root. you can flash any roms or kernels you want, without root. all root does is give you permission to change system files. and you would flash the root zip in your new recovery once you unlock the bootloader.
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So would unlocking the boot loader void the warranty?
Spectrys said:
So would unlocking the boot loader void the warranty?
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depending on who you bought it from, yes and no. but anyways, you can lock the bootloader after as well, easily. generally, google will still except warrenty if the bootloader is unlocked for any hardware issue. other companies will void the warrenty, including LG. but again, it can be relocked
simms22 said:
depending on who you bought it from, yes and no. but anyways, you can lock the bootloader after as well, easily. generally, google will still except warrenty if the bootloader is unlocked for any hardware issue. other companies will void the warrenty, including LG. but again, it can be relocked
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So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
Spectrys said:
So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
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yup. anything that needs to be flashed will go through your custom recovery, which needs an unlocked boitloader to get flashed onto your device. then youll use that recovery to flash things, and make backups.
Spectrys said:
So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
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Unlocking the bootloader is a requirement in order to use a custom recovery. And most mods are installed by flashable zips in recovery. So yes kind of required.
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Awesome! You guys are great I am going to unlock later today or tomorrow.
Now next question the ota updates will I be able to install those if I keep stock with an unlocked boot loader?
Spectrys said:
Awesome! You guys are great I am going to unlock later today or tomorrow.
Now next question the ota updates will I be able to install those if I keep stock with an unlocked boot loader?
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If you click the link in my signature, theres a thread about ota. All guides and info is there. Every question you've asked today is answered there
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Pretty sure you told me that earlier, thanks.
Looking at it now.
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Pretty sure you told me that earlier, thanks.
Looking at it now.
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Yepp. Loads of good stuff there
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sure
root is best thing to do . just root and install custom kernel
MohamedHusseinMohamed said:
root is best thing to do . just root and install custom kernel
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you do not need root to install custom kernels
all you need root for is to change system files. well, that's all root does, is give you permission.
Spectrys said:
So I have always rooted my phones in the past.
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 because well, it needed KitKat and Samsung is lame...
Now I am faced with the decision to root or not to root. My N5 is awesome it has Full support and is the raw experience I want, rooting would let me have a little more fun in the way of mods and tweaks, but all the problems everyone seems to be having is kinda putting me off so I guess I just need help.
Also there is a difference between unlocking boot loader and rooting, does the unlocking void warranty?
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You have to unlock the boot loader in order to root. Personally at this time I would not root because of android L around the corner. With rooting, you can longer receive ota's. Yes it fun to tweak but if I were in your position I wouldn't....
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dec1153 said:
With rooting, you can longer receive ota's.
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Not true. You can receive OTA's if rooted (read the OTA help-desk thread) However, what's the big deal about OTA's?
1) You can get a rooted rom flashed based on the latest build BEFORE you get the OTA
2) Much less to go wrong that way than with OTA.
I think too many people put too much importance in OTA updates. Its a poor method of delivery and not even quick
rootSU said:
Not true. You can receive OTA's if rooted (read the OTA help-desk thread) However, what's the big deal about OTA's?
1) You can get a rooted rom flashed based on the latest build BEFORE you get the OTA
2) Much less to go wrong that way than with OTA.
I think too many people put too much importance in OTA updates. Its a poor method of delivery and not even quick
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Personally, I think that if you don't know how to update manually and are completely reliant on OTAs, then you shouldn't have root access in the first place because you don't know what you're doing.