[Q] What's the point of rooting 4.3? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I have a Galaxy S3 I rooted a long time ago, and whenever I tried to flash ROMs to it I kept getting the triangle--Triangle Away did nothing to help this. Anyway, I finally did some digging around with Odin and got it back from the triangle screen and forgot about it. Well, lately, I have missed my ROM flashing days from when I had an HTC Incredible, and decided to re-root, which worked great.
Then I flashed CWM using Root Tools in the Play Store. When I booted into recovery, it went to the triangle screen. Damn. THEN I decided to browse the XDA forums, and it would appear that if your phone took the 4.3 update, you're hosed and you can't do really anything. So now I am trying to get my phone back to working status.
Anyway, if you can't flash CM11 or other ROMs, what is the point of rooting the 4.3?
Thanks for your kind responses...

tmettler5 said:
I have a Galaxy S3 I rooted a long time ago, and whenever I tried to flash ROMs to it I kept getting the triangle--Triangle Away did nothing to help this. Anyway, I finally did some digging around with Odin and got it back from the triangle screen and forgot about it. Well, lately, I have missed my ROM flashing days from when I had an HTC Incredible, and decided to re-root, which worked great.
Then I flashed CWM using Root Tools in the Play Store. When I booted into recovery, it went to the triangle screen. Damn. THEN I decided to browse the XDA forums, and it would appear that if your phone took the 4.3 update, you're hosed and you can't do really anything. So now I am trying to get my phone back to working status.
Anyway, if you can't flash CM11 or other ROMs, what is the point of rooting the 4.3?
Thanks for your kind responses...
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Root access does a lot of things:
Reasons to root 4.3:
Debloating
Running rooted apps
Xposed framework with modules
Custom theming
Tethering
Custom TouchWiz roms
App back ups
Nandroids
Performance scripts
Audio mods
.....
I could go on much longer.
Not having aosp isn't the worst thing in the world, especially when you still have good stock development on a device.
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BadUsername said:
Root access does a lot of things:
Reasons to root 4.3:
Debloating
Running rooted apps
Xposed framework with modules
Custom theming
Tethering
Custom TouchWiz roms
App back ups
Nandroids
Performance scripts
Audio mods
.....
I could go on much longer.
Not having aosp isn't the worst thing in the world, especially when you still have good stock development on a device.
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Well, this has me a little spooked, I guess. The Incredible was so easy, even the Rezound was easy. It seems like VZW REALLY does not want us messing with their toys.

tmettler5 said:
Well, this has me a little spooked, I guess. The Incredible was so easy, even the Rezound was easy. It seems like VZW REALLY does not want us messing with their toys.
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It's really not all that difficult.
Basically, No unlocking bootloader, No flashing custom recoveries (except safestrap) , No flashing custom kernels, but everything you need is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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BadUsername said:
It's really not all that difficult.
Basically, No unlocking bootloader, No flashing custom recoveries (except safestrap) , No flashing custom kernels, but everything you need is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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Yeah, I saw that. I just need to read more...

I'll add a big one for me: ad blocking. After spending so long on a rooted device with ad-blocking, you really get spoiled.

Related

Coming from Captivate, flashing questions

Sorry if this should be in a different thread. Not trying to get flamed. So I am coming from a captivate and am just wondering how is flashing stuff on the inspire different from the captivate? Typically most of my flashing was just done thru CWM on the captivate itself or thru ODIN. I know ODIN doesnt exist for the inspire, but what differences can I expect coming into? how do I get to recovery or download? Any answers on how the flashing experience is different would be much appreciated
Once you've rooted it's pretty much the same as captivate install rom manager and install Rom with cwm recovery. There isn't a need to flash back to stock. Just clear data and cache.
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yup, clockwork mod makes life a hell of a lot easier.
And this restore a heck of a lot better than the captivate did. I don't even use titanium backup anymore. All my txt messages and apps automatically restores including wallpaper
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Thanks guys, my only question is how to get CWM on this phone after root. Im assuming its thru a kernel?
same way you do it on the captivate get rom manager from the market. Install CWM Recovery.
There's no need for special recoveries like on the captivate as there's no lagfix craziness to deal with. HTC uses Android/Linux standard file systems
gunnyman said:
same way you do it on the captivate get rom manager from the market. Install CWM Recovery.
There's no need for special recoveries like on the captivate as there's no lagfix craziness to deal with. HTC uses Android/Linux standard file systems
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Lol, kinda forgot thats all that needed to be done to get CWM. Too much stress with the captivate.
Yeah I had to retrain my brain as well.
p4ranoid4ndroid said:
Lol, kinda forgot thats all that needed to be done to get CWM. Too much stress with the captivate.
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Totally agree, ill never get samsung again. I would probably flash a different rom on my captivate every other day to find out which one had what bugs and what didnt work correctly, lol. The Inspire is a lot harder to root then the captivate, but is well worth it when you do, for one roms are higher quality and all 100% working, even cm7 rc1. There is no download mode for inspire, you can manually boot into bootloader mode and from there you can enter CWM Recovery.
So i looked at the HTC hack kit, are there any better instructions for rooting? just didnt see anything laid out in that thread.
Another question for yall: On the captivate when wifi was active the 3g symbol would disappear. This doesnt happen on my inspire. Does that mean hspa is still running while im connected to wifi? Battery drain is my issue with this
there's a readme in the hack kit. Very easy to follow
There is youtube two part video walkthrough, thats what i used. I learn easier if i can see it happening.
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On the vibrant (captivate) a bad kernel or Rom could mean boot loop and no hope of getting into clockwork and we would have to use odin. This doesn't happen on the inspire?
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.
ive had boot loop happen twice so far and both times i manually went into boot loader and went to CWM recovery and wiped data and reflashed then everything was fine. The one time i reflashed and still got boot loop i just restored back up and then flashed and was good to go. I made a backup right after i rooted so i wouldnt have to do it again, i suggest you do the same just to be safe.
bkeaver said:
And this restore a heck of a lot better than the captivate did. I don't even use titanium backup anymore. All my txt messages and apps automatically restores including wallpaper
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Not to hijack, but what do you mean? How do you restore all your apps etc without titanium?
Corriewf said:
Not to hijack, but what do you mean? How do you restore all your apps etc without titanium?
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lol dont mind the hijacking. the more questions asked the better.
the market auto restores your apps when you sign in with your google account, i cant really explain how it does this, but it sure is nice.
when you check back up my settings when you sign into google for teh first time, it starts keeping a list of market apps you've installed and restores them if you do a factory reset. doesn't seem to catch all of mine all the time though.
still have some questions regarding Flash
I read the rooting thread as well as saw the video, what I could understand is that in captivate we were rooting and then upgrading the ROM.
But here we are rooting and the downgrading.. Are we loosing any functionality? Its little difficult to understand..
can someone pls help?
You are actually downgrading the ROM then rooting THAT. After you have root, and have clockwork mod recovery installed you can install any rooted rom you like. There are a few to choose from in the Dev section.
The current Android release on the Inspire hasn't been "cracked" yet so you need to downgrade to get root.

How to stop an OTA update?

Okay first off, i know this is the wrong section. I can not post in development because I am new here, but I am in need of help desperately. Okay so I am rooted on 1.85 and the bootloader is NOT unlocked. Well i decided today to take the update to 4.0.4 before I did research. (Stupid me eh?) Well I start the OTA and then do some research. I learn that the update to 4.0.4 might be harmful to rooted users. So I disconnect from WiFi knowing it will pause the download. Well now I have a download that is just paused in the notification bar, and any time i connect to wifi it will continue the download. While the download is paused, can i unroot and take the update safely? I have seriously been searching for hours on end to find someone with a situation that I am in and i can not.
If you do a factory reset the update will go away. But that would also make you loose root. You should unlock the bootloader, then flash the rooted 2.20 update from the dev section.
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Yep, get that bootloader unlocked immediately and flash a rooted stock ROM or a custom ROM. Make sure you backup all your stuff with Titanium because the bootloader unlock will wipe your phone.
Also, just so you know, this thread most definitely did NOT belong in development, which is reserved for ROMs and kernels and root guides and the like ONLY. Threads like this belong in Q+A but nobody is gonna kill you for posting it in General.
After the download, you should get a prompt to either Install, Postpone, or you can press the "back" capacitive button to cancel. Cancel should stop the update notifications. At least this is how its worked on past HTC OTAs. I personally can't verify, as I haven't gotten the notification yet. But others seem to verify this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817429
But if you want to be safe, you should SuperCID and unlock bootloader first, as others have suggested. Pressing the wrong button for the method I suggested above will be catastrophic otherwise (lose the ability to root and unlock BL).
Thanks for your help guys!
I just did a factory data reset on my phone. Honestly, I've gotten myself into trouble with rooting. I really need to read up before i continue with things of this sort. So since i did a factory data reset, am i 100% unrooted? Will i be safe to take the OTA now? Thanks for your help guys!
If you were stock 1.85, and rooted using the one-click or "manual" method (which you must be, if you you are still BL locked), then you are now unrooted. You are either rooted or not, there is no "percentage" of rooted.
What kind of trouble have you gotten into rooting, and what do you typically use root for?
I've been debating on whether or not to just go ahead and install the OTA to 2.2. The only thing I've used for root was for WiFi-Tether and I don't even use that anymore so I think I don't even necessarily NEED root anymore. I'm just tired of the updater telling me there's a new update to install - frankly very annoying. I've been just using the back capacitive button to cancel it. BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
extol1337 said:
BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
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Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
redpoint73 said:
Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
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That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
extol1337 said:
That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
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Is the update actually downloaded to your phone? You may need to locate and delete it.
It may be trying to install the OTA from recovery, which makes sense. Don't actually know what happens when an OTA installs.
I've never installed an OTA! I'm always rooted, always will be!!!!
Just to be sure.
I did a factory data reset the night of the problem, been good ever since! I have not done anything to the phone except install a few apps. Should i be okay to take the OTA now? Sorry i just really want to be sure. This is my 3rd phone is 3 months so... no second chances.
SOLVED
Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
Did everyone got an update ?
I still do not see update notification
From beast called HTC One X
It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
wantabe said:
It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
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Excellent info!
ssteven232 said:
Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
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Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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borets.boris said:
Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced). One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone! My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good! I also have to agree with "I can't own an android without root access" especially on AT&T. Personally I'm good to go until the Jelly Bean update! Decisions, decisions! :laugh:
wantabe said:
Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced).
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I've never installed an OTA, so I wouldn't know either. Honestly, I don't know why one would do that, when the awesome devs here post ROMs with the latest OTAs and root prebaked into them. There are "modded" ROMs and "stock" (or close to stock) ROMs available to everyone's taste.
wantabe said:
One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone!
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Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
wantabe said:
My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good!
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Where was your improvement? Did the increase happen in the aspect/area that directly affects your daily use, or in some esoteric algorithm that the phone all of a sudden processes faster? I used to go crazy on quadrant scores, but now I don't really understand their value/accuracy. As long as the phone feels buttery smooth while lasting 5+ hours of screen time, I'm happy!
Since you're interested in the scores, I installed quadrant and ran it, so you can compare.
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in admiration, totally confused!
borets.boris said:
Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
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Hi, do you think you could point me in the right direction for this? I found the general thread on radios, but am at a total loss about what it means or what to do with it!
You knew this was the wrong section but posted here anyway? Not a good way to start your membership on XDA. First rule of thumb is to search before creating a thread. Google is a great source for information. For future reference, all questions belong in the Q&A section, where coincidentally, this is being moved to.
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[Q] Bad Recovery flash? (SOLVED)

I've done some searching, finding similar things that have happened to others here, but nothing that specifically fits what I'm experiencing...
I'm hoping someone has a step-by-step that I can do to get this phone rooted properly... First, I've been on XDA for a while, Droid Eris and HTC Incredible 2, but this is the first Samsung phone I've owned... A few days ago, I tried the Casual Root method and went ahead and rooted, unlocked the bootloader (unsecure ABOOT) and loaded CWM touch as my recovery. All looked fine, but when I went in to recovery to try and backup the stock rom, it threw a ton of Not able to write/Cannot Mount errors... My phone came with the MF1 4.1.2 already running.
Since, I've tried EZ-Unlock 1.2 to check and unlock the bootloader (which it showed as "Unknown" until I clicked unlock) and I've tried installing different recoveries through EZ Recovery (TWRP 2.2.2, CWM variants, etc...). Still, no joy in getting this to work properly.
The last attempt kept the phone in Download mode until I rebooted using the Power, Vol. Down, Menu to bypass it (Not detecting ANY recovery now!?). I'm still able to get back to the original Rom (which is rooted now), but I'm concerned with bricking if I keep trying this.
So, I'm thinking now of just doing an Odin back to stock and reflashing all the original firmware so I can start over with Casual. Was wondering if anyone had any other input which might get the R/W issue fixed so I don't have to go through all the Odin stuff? Compared to HTC phones, this is quite different with Root/Flashing, so I'm a little confused with the whole process of things right now... Any help would really be appreciated! I'm looking forward to deving at some point, once I'm comfortable with the process...
Thanks,
Rich
Anyone?
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Never mind...
Macrodroid said:
I've done some searching, finding similar things that have happened to others here, but nothing that specifically fits what I'm experiencing...
I'm hoping someone has a step-by-step that I can do to get this phone rooted properly... First, I've been on XDA for a while, Droid Eris and HTC Incredible 2, but this is the first Samsung phone I've owned... A few days ago, I tried the Casual Root method and went ahead and rooted, unlocked the bootloader (unsecure ABOOT) and loaded CWM touch as my recovery. All looked fine, but when I went in to recovery to try and backup the stock rom, it threw a ton of Not able to write/Cannot Mount errors... My phone came with the MF1 4.1.2 already running.
Since, I've tried EZ-Unlock 1.2 to check and unlock the bootloader (which it showed as "Unknown" until I clicked unlock) and I've tried installing different recoveries through EZ Recovery (TWRP 2.2.2, CWM variants, etc...). Still, no joy in getting this to work properly.
The last attempt kept the phone in Download mode until I rebooted using the Power, Vol. Down, Menu to bypass it (Not detecting ANY recovery now!?). I'm still able to get back to the original Rom (which is rooted now), but I'm concerned with bricking if I keep trying this.
So, I'm thinking now of just doing an Odin back to stock and reflashing all the original firmware so I can start over with Casual. Was wondering if anyone had any other input which might get the R/W issue fixed so I don't have to go through all the Odin stuff? Compared to HTC phones, this is quite different with Root/Flashing, so I'm a little confused with the whole process of things right now... Any help would really be appreciated! I'm looking forward to deving at some point, once I'm comfortable with the process...
Thanks,
Rich
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If you were able to root your phone successfully, then what I would recommend what to do is download whatever image you want (for me, I downloaded twrp 2.6.3.0) and then flash it through flashify (free in play store).
If you want to get it an easier way, then use goomanager and then install open recovery script (you'll see it when you press menu). It should install the recovery automatically.
If you want clockworkmod touch, then if you want an image, use flashify to flash it. Doing either of the options will give you a working recovery.
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If you were able to root your phone successfully, then what I would recommend what to do is download whatever image you want (for me, I downloaded twrp 2.6.3.0) and then flash it through flashify (free in play store).
If you want to get it an easier way, then use goomanager and then install open recovery script (you'll see it when you press menu). It should install the recovery automatically.
If you want clockworkmod touch, then if you want an image, use flashify to flash it. Doing either of the options will give you a working recovery.
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Ok, I've gotvtwrp 2.6.3.0 loaded, works... But, I cannot mount anything, backup totally fails. Any ideas? Twrp also asks for a password for some reason...
Btw, nice to see a familiar face on here! How's life treating you these days?
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Try this. But download and use the correct and updated cwm recovery from somewhere else.
http://bestandroidtricks.com/how-to...covery-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s3-all-versions/
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stolo said:
Try this. But download and use the correct and updated cwm recovery from somewhere else.
http://bestandroidtricks.com/how-to...covery-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s3-all-versions/
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Thanks! After going through Rom Manager and letting it update CWR on it's own, I finally got everything working now! Backup of the Stock Rom is done finally and I can start flashing some Rom's to get comfortable with things... Hopefully, I can start putting out some Rom's for this device soon!! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!
I have been using kitkang cm11, so far really excited and loving 4.4. I have been updating daily.
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stolo said:
I have been using kitkang cm11, so far really excited and loving 4.4. I have been updating daily.
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Got wicked loaded up! So far, so good. I might try pulling a repo on cm11 sometime soon...
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[Q] Question about SafeStrap and Custom ROMs

So, I just got an insurance replacement device and it has 4.3 on it. I looked around before just trying to root because I figured Vzw would have done something to break root. I just didn't realize how bad they'd get. Anyway, I know i need to use saferoot and then install safestrap and then maybe I can get CleanROM8 on this thing.
However I have a question. How does the kernel work with safestrap? When I install Scotts ROM will it get a new Kernel? Can I install lk? I've searched quite a bit and haven't found a clear answer.
MajicManDroid said:
So, I just got an insurance replacement device and it has 4.3 on it. I looked around before just trying to root because I figured Vzw would have done something to break root. I just didn't realize how bad they'd get. Anyway, I know i need to use saferoot and then install safestrap and then maybe I can get CleanROM8 on this thing.
However I have a question. How does the kernel work with safestrap? When I install Scotts ROM will it get a new Kernel? Can I install lk? I've searched quite a bit and haven't found a clear answer.
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U can only install 4.3 TW VRUCML1 based ROMS. I just installed wicked sensations and it is smooth as hell and has the native Sprint hotspot hack. If I'm not mistaken cleanRom is wrapped in Aroma installer. You can't use any custom kernels. CleanRom comes with the recompiled stock kernel by scrosler. Be sure to flash the ML1 modem Module AFTER u install the Rom. Safestrap won't let u install over your stock slot. But I would advise you to make a nandroid before you flash anything.
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ATGkompressor said:
U can only install 4.3 TW VRUCML1 based ROMS. I just installed wicked sensations and it is smooth as hell and has the native Sprint hotspot hack. If I'm not mistaken cleanRom is wrapped in Aroma installer. You can't use any custom kernels. CleanRom comes with the recompiled stock kernel by scrosler. Be sure to flash the ML1 modem Module AFTER u install the Rom. Safestrap won't let u install over your stock slot. But I would advise you to make a nandroid before you flash anything.
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Awesome, Thanks for the Info. I took a look at wicked sensations and it looks like I'd just install it to an empty ROM slot in SafeStrap and then I'm good to go? CleanROM says he's had luck with safestrap as well so I wonder if i can try it.
Can I hardbrick so long as I use an empty slot in safestrap. (and stay FAR away from the stock slot)?
MajicManDroid said:
Awesome, Thanks for the Info. I took a look at wicked sensations and it looks like I'd just install it to an empty ROM slot in SafeStrap and then I'm good to go? CleanROM says he's had luck with safestrap as well so I wonder if i can try it.
Can I hardbrick so long as I use an empty slot in safestrap. (and stay FAR away from the stock slot)?
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It will ask you how big u want to make your data and cache partitions of your Rom-slot, the bigger you make it, the less space u have on internal storage. Once u create it, you activate it. Then go in and install ROM (flash zip from sdcard). After you do that immediately flash the ML1 MODEM MODULE IN YOUR ROM-SLOT, this will ensure that your Wi-Fi and data will work. After you do all of that, Reboot. DON'T PANIC IF THE FIRST BOOT TAKES A WHILE AND SYSTEM UI MAY CRASH ON FIRST BOOT. DON'T WORRY, JUST HIT OK AND WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. TAKE THE TIME TO REINSTALL ALL YOUR APPS FROM PLAY STORE. APPLYING BACKUPS CAN HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS. PATIENCE IS KEY WITH SAFESTRAP.
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING OVER YOUR STOCK SLOT! HARD BRICK IS IMMINENT IF U DO SO! SO YEAH, AS LONG AS YOU STAY FAR AWAY FROM THAT STOCK SLOT YOU'RE GOOD! Wicked Sensations is running very good for me. Plus, I like the hotspot hack. Any questions, I can pm me.
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ATGkompressor said:
It will ask you how big u want to make your data and cache partitions of your Rom-slot, the bigger you make it, the less space u have on internal storage. Once u create it, you activate it. Then go in and install ROM (flash zip from sdcard). After you do that immediately flash the ML1 MODEM MODULE IN YOUR ROM-SLOT, this will ensure that your Wi-Fi and data will work. After you do all of that, Reboot. DON'T PANIC IF THE FIRST BOOT TAKES A WHILE AND SYSTEM UI MAY CRASH ON FIRST BOOT. DON'T WORRY, JUST HIT OK AND WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. TAKE THE TIME TO REINSTALL ALL YOUR APPS FROM PLAY STORE. APPLYING BACKUPS CAN HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS. PATIENCE IS KEY WITH SAFESTRAP.
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING OVER YOUR STOCK SLOT! HARD BRICK IS IMMINENT IF U DO SO! SO YEAH, AS LONG AS YOU STAY FAR AWAY FROM THAT STOCK SLOT YOU'RE GOOD! Wicked Sensations is running very good for me. Plus, I like the hotspot hack. Any questions, I can pm me.
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Thanks for all your help ATGkompressor but I no longer need safestrap. The phone I got that had ML1 on it had the screen die so I had to call for a second replacement and thankfully it had an older unlockable boot loader. I have full unlock and root now.
MajicManDroid said:
Thanks for all your help ATGkompressor but I no longer need safestrap. The phone I got that had ML1 on it had the screen die so I had to call for a second replacement and thankfully it had an older unlockable boot loader. I have full unlock and root now.
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you're a lucky son of...th..b..
MajicManDroid said:
Thanks for all your help ATGkompressor but I no longer need safestrap. The phone I got that had ML1 on it had the screen die so I had to call for a second replacement and thankfully it had an older unlockable boot loader. I have full unlock and root now.
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U got lucky. I'm just gonna get a cracked screen s3 and take the board out and put it in my phone. It has 4.1 on it so I can be free.
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Stock recovery

I have been rooted and using custom ROMs since the Evo 4G days. Always an early step is to install a custom recovery. Well I have a GS5 and have it rooted (towel root) so my KNOX is still virgin. For the time being, I am trying to keep it that way. I just realized that there is a stock recovery and it has options to flash upgrades from memory. Can I flash updates without tripping my KNOX? Obviously I can't do kernels or ROMs or a recovery, but can I do theme type and hotspot mods?
Bob
ParrSt said:
I have been rooted and using custom ROMs since the Evo 4G days. Always an early step is to install a custom recovery. Well I have a GS5 and have it rooted (towel root) so my KNOX is still virgin. For the time being, I am trying to keep it that way. I just realized that there is a stock recovery and it has options to flash upgrades from memory. Can I flash updates without tripping my KNOX? Obviously I can't do kernels or ROMs or a recovery, but can I do theme type and hotspot mods?
Bob
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Most mods I've seen for this phone and post s2 phones(when recovery and kernel became separated), mods, tweaks, themes, etc, are in .zip format and have to be flashed through custom recovery to take. And as you know, flashing recovery well trip Knox.
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Thanks, If they don't find a way to get around KNOX soon, I will break down and flash a recovery, but for now, I have learned (and am still learning) how to take zips apart and manually install. So far mostly changing icons and such, but that is slow and somewhat tedious. And I am still having problems getting smali changes to work.
ParrSt said:
Thanks, If they don't find a way to get around KNOX soon, I will break down and flash a recovery, but for now, I have learned (and am still learning) how to take zips apart and manually install. So far mostly changing icons and such, but that is slow and somewhat tedious. And I am still having problems getting smali changes to work.
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Some of the best devs I know can't crack it, so unfortunately I think Knox is here to stay my friend. Good luck! But I say, embrace the change, lol.
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jdsingle76 said:
Some of the best devs I know can't crack it, so unfortunately I think Knox is here to stay my friend. Good luck! But I say, embrace the change, lol.
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There is no such thing as a lock that can't be picked, or a code that can't be broken. I hold out hope. So far I have had good luck making my mods manually. I like doing it my way anyway. Then I get EXACTLY what I want. lol
Thanks again for the info.

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