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[Q] Rooting Nexus S without unlocking bootloader

I've seen many different rooting methods for the nexus s but unfortunately they don't allow rooting without unlocking the bootloader like the samsung vibrant allows is there anyway I can root my phone without unlocking the bootloader?
why I don't want to unloack the boot loader because I'm fine with the stock ROM on my nexus s. I was really into installing ROMs and things with my Vibrant but the Nexus S feels really complete so I feel like I don't need to unlock my boot loader
Also for the first time I have decent signal in my house after switiching from my blackberry to android so I don't wanna change my baseband and my battery life is good too so I don't want to mess with the kernel

Really? You posted in the same incorrect forum twice with the same question cut and pasted. Nice work!
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You know you can re-lock the bootloader with a fastboot command, right? And the little open lock goes away.

i'm sorry i accidentally reposted i pmed the moderator right away because i didn't know how to delete the post and this is the right section its a question...

i just have one question i can relock right but if i do unlock the bootloader will it change my kernel or baseband settings? i really couldn't care about the warranty and such

it's like opening the door....if you do nothing inside, nothing will happen

yes i get that but i can't flash back to the original recovery as of now and so no changes to the kernel and baseband alright thanks!!

also is there some sort of a "ODIN" availabale for nexus s because thats what I used to always flash my samsung vibrant back to stock. will OTA updates be affected if I root and unlock the bootloader?

anishs said:
also is there some sort of a "ODIN" availabale for nexus s because thats what I used to always flash my samsung vibrant back to stock. will OTA updates be affected if I root and unlock the bootloader?
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Yes you can use Odin with Nexus S, but consider it the last resort because normally you can do everything via adb and fastboot -- that's the advantage of having a Google phone.
For OTA updates, I'm pretty sure it will not work because OTA update requires stock recovery but rooting requires you to flash a custom recovery.

suksit said:
Yes you can use Odin with Nexus S, but consider it the last resort because normally you can do everything via adb and fastboot -- that's the advantage of having a Google phone.
For OTA updates, I'm pretty sure it will not work because OTA update requires stock recovery but rooting requires you to flash a custom recovery.
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thanks for that reply it explained everything can you just tell me if flashing a custom recovery change my baseband or kernel that's all i need to know now

@anishs no
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thanks to everyone for helping a noob with a nexus s

New to HTC need some help

Hey guys my s3 killed its self yesterday so I grabbed one of these beauties today and I'm really impressed so far(maybe its the custom ROM).
Now I got the phone off a guy, had it he unlocked the bootloader,rooted,and gave me the phone already running 4.1(dirty 1.8).no back ups to even a rooted stock.
Although I love jelly bean this battery is killing me and I would really like to have at least a stock zip I can flash in emergencies.
I am so unfamiliar with HTC(nexus one was the last one I owned)thank I really don't want to brick it.
OK so my questions are these
I have the rogers version of the Onex is there certain builds I need to look for or are they all just HTC one x?
With HTC is there a fallback like with samsung if things go wrong at least there's always download mode and Odin.
Do I need to have my boot loader unlocked?
Thanks in advance
And sorry for the noobness I just can't kill 2 phones in a week
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You have a lot of reading ahead of you, grasshopper, before you're ready to do anything to your phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
To answer your questions:
todorcim said:
I have the rogers version of the Onex is there certain builds I need to look for or are they all just HTC one x
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No! It is wise of you to ask this, because there are two versions of the One X, the International (Tegra 3 quad-core) and the US/Rogers/Telstra (dual-core S4). Flashing stuff for the wrong version can permanently brick your phone (i.e., there is no current fix for some of these mistakes).
With HTC is there a fallback like with samsung if things go wrong at least there's always download mode and Odin.
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Assuming you haven't flashed the wrong ROM, you can generally always get out of trouble by booting into bootloader, relocking, and running the RUU for your firmware. Most problems can be fixed by going back into recovery and re-flashing or flashing something else.
Note: Figure out what version of hboot you have before doing anything. With 1.09, modding is pretty straightforward. With 1.14, you have to take some extra steps and there are a few things you can't do at all.
Do I need to have my boot loader unlocked?
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Yes. Leave it unlocked unless you need to RUU.

His hboot should be 1.11 which is the same as 1.09 as far as installing roms go.
If you're looking for a Sense ICS rom, I recommend ViperXL or CleanRom5. But there are other roms to try. As long as you stay in this forum and not the international forum you should be safe to flash anything you want.

Awesome thanks guys.
I check my boot loader and it is 1.11..
So that makes me happy cause all in all I'm addicted to flashing
One last question for you before I venture off on my own here..
With my nexus one I and the passimg I could flash through my bootloader in cause something went wrong or I just want to refresh my n1,is there something like that for this phone or are those days long gone?
Again thanks a bundle
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Flash from TWRP recovery

todorcim said:
With my nexus one I and the passimg I could flash through my bootloader in cause something went wrong or I just want to refresh my n1,is there something like that for this phone or are those days long gone?
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Correct, stick to TWRP. There is an app called GooManager that makes installing and updating TWRP close to effortless.
If you haven't already, reboot to recovery and see what you've got installed. Some people insist on using ClockworkMod recovery because they've used it on other phones, but it's not supported for this one and can cause issues with data getting corrupted. If you have CWM installed, all you need to do is download GooManager and select "Install openrecovery script" in settings and it will replace it with TWRP.

Ya I always use twrp have for a while but what I mean is if (can?) I soft brick my phone or something happens that I can't flash from recovery is there a passimg zip like we had for the n1 that could be flash through the boot loader?
You know just in case
I only ask cause its HTC thought maybe there was something like that...could have been a Google thing too not sure..
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todorcim said:
Ya I always use twrp have for a while but what I mean is if (can?) I soft brick my phone or something happens that I can't flash from recovery is there a passimg zip like we had for the n1 that could be flash through the boot loader?
You know just in case
I only ask cause its HTC thought maybe there was something like that...could have been a Google thing too not sure.
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Yes, you can still flash stuff through fastboot, if that's what you mean.

Ya that's what I mean
Thanks
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RAZR HD Maxx rootability

Just replaced Samsung Galaxy Nexus with this razor. Should be a step up right? Apparently I'm spoiled. Wife has the bionic so I'm familiar with the basic process.
Doing research, resetting the device like 15 times and reading a ton of threads in the last couple days, it looks like I have the phone itself actually rooted however I'm not able to fully install safe strap.
What's interesting to me is that I can use programs that require root access far as I can tell with no issue, root checker shows root is available as well. Trying to reboot into recovery though does not give me the safety strap splash screen to choose any kind of recovery option. Just rolls into DROID...
Is this pretty normal if the previous owner accepted the OTA update to take me to 9.18.79? Are we stuck?
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Did you open safestrap and install recovery?
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Sure did. Says installed and from all the videos I've seen explaining the install/usage and my wife phone installation, I'm quite sure it's installed.
I've tried multiple versions just to be sure clearing data and uninstalling previous versions etc.
At this point I'm just not sure if this is normal or not because of the OTA version that's on here.
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Thinking that the safe strap process should be the same but realized that there is a set of HD XT926 forums I should probably be posting in. Didn't realize the differences.
Mod move this post if needed.
Thanks anyways.
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You can prove with BMM hmmmmm!!!

vegaIT said:
You can prove with BMM hmmmmm!!!
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Tried to install bmm from the Play Store however it did not seem compatible with my XT 926. Am I missing something?
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Going to try something called philz touch. Let's see if I get better results. Anyone try it?
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Just wondering, it wasn't clear, are you on the 9.18.79 build or not sure? A screen shot of your "about phone" screen could tell unless someone rolled back. Only reason I ask is, safest rap is great if there are no options but unlocked is where the real profit is.
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bweN diorD said:
Just wondering, it wasn't clear, are you on the 9.18.79 build or not sure? A screen shot of your "about phone" screen could tell unless someone rolled back. Only reason I ask is, safest rap is great if there are no options but unlocked is where the real profit is.
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yep, that's the version I'm at. I think I mentioned that in the original post. From everything I'm reading I should be able to install and run safe strap with no issues but it just doesn't ever bring up the menu. At this point I'm looking for alternatives I guess.

grnsl2 said:
yep, that's the version I'm at. I think I mentioned that in the original post. From everything I'm reading I should be able to install and run safe strap with no issues but it just doesn't ever bring up the menu. At this point I'm looking for alternatives I guess.
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are you sure its not already unlocked?
if you havent already, i would flash back to clean stock, not just wipe/"reset", and try again. wiping wont get rid of or fix anything in the system directory.

First off don't attempt to flash any aftermarket recovery if your BL is locked, you might run into issues. Second, SafeStrap doesn't replace your stock recovery because you can't replace your stock recovery if you have a locked BL. To get into SS, just boot your phone normally. Once the phone boots, you'll get the SS screen that allows you to go into SS recovery or boot into OS normally. Once in SS, then you can start running backups, flashing, etc.

i didnt see anyone suggest he flash a stock recovery.
he got the phone used, maybe its already unlocked, i didnt see that possibility confirmed or denied.

bweN diorD said:
are you sure its not already unlocked?
if you havent already, i would flash back to clean stock, not just wipe/"reset", and try again. wiping wont get rid of or fix anything in the system directory.
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When you say UNLOCKED, are you referring to the Boot Loader? If so, I do not believe that it is, just Root at this time.
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First off don't attempt to flash any aftermarket recovery if your BL is locked, you might run into issues. Second, SafeStrap doesn't replace your stock recovery because you can't replace your stock recovery if you have a locked BL. To get into SS, just boot your phone normally. Once the phone boots, you'll get the SS screen that allows you to go into SS recovery or boot into OS normally. Once in SS, then you can start running backups, flashing, etc.
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100% agree with this, should be that simple. Happens properly on the Mrs Bionic so I'm familiar with that process. This phone doesn't produce the menu no matter what version of Safe Strap is installed (tried multiple).
bweN diorD said:
i didnt see anyone suggest he flash a stock recovery.
he got the phone used, maybe its already unlocked, i didnt see that possibility confirmed or denied.
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Planning to go back to stock stock, beyond the wipe. I believe a previous poster mentioned that the standard wipe doesn't remove root. A fresh start may be my next step. Hoping the 1.32 Droid Razr Utility by Mattlgrof http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474393 will do that for me.

grnsl2 said:
When you say UNLOCKED, are you referring to the Boot Loader? If so, I do not believe that it is, just Root at this time.
100% agree with this, should be that simple. Happens properly on the Mrs Bionic so I'm familiar with that process. This phone doesn't produce the menu no matter what version of Safe Strap is installed (tried multiple).
Planning to go back to stock stock, beyond the wipe. I believe a previous poster mentioned that the standard wipe doesn't remove root. A fresh start may be my next step. Hoping the 1.32 Droid Razr Utility by Mattlgrof http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474393 will do that for me.
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just boot into the bootloader screen (vol+power) and see if it says device locked or unlocked (may have to choose "fastboot", to see it i dont recall)
yes Matts utility will clean the phone for you, i updated it to 1.3+ for him

Used the utility to wipe the phone and reflash back to stock, at least that version. All seems good however moto chopper doesn't fully install root with superuser. I get the typical su binary needs to be installed and that fails.I did tried to run the updates in Play Store that was available as well as clearing data etc with no luck. I think the last time that I was able to successfully Foot I used a different Root program, razor maybe?

grnsl2 said:
Used the utility to wipe the phone and reflash back to stock, at least that version. All seems good however moto chopper doesn't fully install root with superuser. I get the typical su binary needs to be installed and that fails.I did tried to run the updates in Play Store that was available as well as clearing data etc with no luck. I think the last time that I was able to successfully Foot I used a different Root program, razor maybe?
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read the post from the utility, the root in the utility is not the one you need to use. the correct one is in the post. (it actually says it in the command window of the tool too)
when i get time, ill try to integrate the new root.

Okay, my apologies, I thought it was updated 2 or 3 times in the last couple days and thought that was updated that as well. :thumbup:
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grnsl2 said:
Okay, my apologies, I thought it was updated 2 or 3 times in the last couple days and thought that was updated that as well. :thumbup:
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np, i did update it a few times, but working 6 days a week, i dont feel like messing with the root right now.

So I've just done option 1 with the factory reset, then ran moto chopper 1.32 and have good root. Confirmed. Ver. 9.20.1
Safe strap seems to be the only issue I keep having. The menu just simply doesn't come up while booting. Doesn't matter if the phone is completely shut off and turned on or rebooted.
Puzzled.
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bweN diorD said:
i didnt see anyone suggest he flash a stock recovery.
he got the phone used, maybe its already unlocked, i didnt see that possibility confirmed or denied.
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Grns did mention that he might try flashing PhilZ recovery, that's why I said what I did. His OP also mentioned that the previous owner took the latest OTA, so it's highly probably that he's locked up (though, not 100% certain). I'm only suggesting these things in advance, so that he doesn't run into problems.
As for your SS issues, that's kind of weird. You should get the options as soon as the phone boots up.

[Q] Bad Recovery flash? (SOLVED)

I've done some searching, finding similar things that have happened to others here, but nothing that specifically fits what I'm experiencing...
I'm hoping someone has a step-by-step that I can do to get this phone rooted properly... First, I've been on XDA for a while, Droid Eris and HTC Incredible 2, but this is the first Samsung phone I've owned... A few days ago, I tried the Casual Root method and went ahead and rooted, unlocked the bootloader (unsecure ABOOT) and loaded CWM touch as my recovery. All looked fine, but when I went in to recovery to try and backup the stock rom, it threw a ton of Not able to write/Cannot Mount errors... My phone came with the MF1 4.1.2 already running.
Since, I've tried EZ-Unlock 1.2 to check and unlock the bootloader (which it showed as "Unknown" until I clicked unlock) and I've tried installing different recoveries through EZ Recovery (TWRP 2.2.2, CWM variants, etc...). Still, no joy in getting this to work properly.
The last attempt kept the phone in Download mode until I rebooted using the Power, Vol. Down, Menu to bypass it (Not detecting ANY recovery now!?). I'm still able to get back to the original Rom (which is rooted now), but I'm concerned with bricking if I keep trying this.
So, I'm thinking now of just doing an Odin back to stock and reflashing all the original firmware so I can start over with Casual. Was wondering if anyone had any other input which might get the R/W issue fixed so I don't have to go through all the Odin stuff? Compared to HTC phones, this is quite different with Root/Flashing, so I'm a little confused with the whole process of things right now... Any help would really be appreciated! I'm looking forward to deving at some point, once I'm comfortable with the process...
Thanks,
Rich

Anyone?
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Never mind...

Macrodroid said:
I've done some searching, finding similar things that have happened to others here, but nothing that specifically fits what I'm experiencing...
I'm hoping someone has a step-by-step that I can do to get this phone rooted properly... First, I've been on XDA for a while, Droid Eris and HTC Incredible 2, but this is the first Samsung phone I've owned... A few days ago, I tried the Casual Root method and went ahead and rooted, unlocked the bootloader (unsecure ABOOT) and loaded CWM touch as my recovery. All looked fine, but when I went in to recovery to try and backup the stock rom, it threw a ton of Not able to write/Cannot Mount errors... My phone came with the MF1 4.1.2 already running.
Since, I've tried EZ-Unlock 1.2 to check and unlock the bootloader (which it showed as "Unknown" until I clicked unlock) and I've tried installing different recoveries through EZ Recovery (TWRP 2.2.2, CWM variants, etc...). Still, no joy in getting this to work properly.
The last attempt kept the phone in Download mode until I rebooted using the Power, Vol. Down, Menu to bypass it (Not detecting ANY recovery now!?). I'm still able to get back to the original Rom (which is rooted now), but I'm concerned with bricking if I keep trying this.
So, I'm thinking now of just doing an Odin back to stock and reflashing all the original firmware so I can start over with Casual. Was wondering if anyone had any other input which might get the R/W issue fixed so I don't have to go through all the Odin stuff? Compared to HTC phones, this is quite different with Root/Flashing, so I'm a little confused with the whole process of things right now... Any help would really be appreciated! I'm looking forward to deving at some point, once I'm comfortable with the process...
Thanks,
Rich
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If you were able to root your phone successfully, then what I would recommend what to do is download whatever image you want (for me, I downloaded twrp 2.6.3.0) and then flash it through flashify (free in play store).
If you want to get it an easier way, then use goomanager and then install open recovery script (you'll see it when you press menu). It should install the recovery automatically.
If you want clockworkmod touch, then if you want an image, use flashify to flash it. Doing either of the options will give you a working recovery.

david_hume said:
If you were able to root your phone successfully, then what I would recommend what to do is download whatever image you want (for me, I downloaded twrp 2.6.3.0) and then flash it through flashify (free in play store).
If you want to get it an easier way, then use goomanager and then install open recovery script (you'll see it when you press menu). It should install the recovery automatically.
If you want clockworkmod touch, then if you want an image, use flashify to flash it. Doing either of the options will give you a working recovery.
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Ok, I've gotvtwrp 2.6.3.0 loaded, works... But, I cannot mount anything, backup totally fails. Any ideas? Twrp also asks for a password for some reason...
Btw, nice to see a familiar face on here! How's life treating you these days?
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Try this. But download and use the correct and updated cwm recovery from somewhere else.
http://bestandroidtricks.com/how-to...covery-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s3-all-versions/
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stolo said:
Try this. But download and use the correct and updated cwm recovery from somewhere else.
http://bestandroidtricks.com/how-to...covery-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s3-all-versions/
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Thanks! After going through Rom Manager and letting it update CWR on it's own, I finally got everything working now! Backup of the Stock Rom is done finally and I can start flashing some Rom's to get comfortable with things... Hopefully, I can start putting out some Rom's for this device soon!! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!

I have been using kitkang cm11, so far really excited and loving 4.4. I have been updating daily.
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stolo said:
I have been using kitkang cm11, so far really excited and loving 4.4. I have been updating daily.
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Got wicked loaded up! So far, so good. I might try pulling a repo on cm11 sometime soon...
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plz help! cannot install any rom

rooted razr hd on most current ota...installed most recent safestrap since cannot unlock bootloader...created a rom slot 1 and try to flash a rom but they all fail...originally trying http://true-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/update-motorola-droid-razr-hd-xt926-to_16.html but it failed so tried slimkat but also failed....idk what to do please help

I'm actually having a similar issue in the same situation with hd maxx. Rooted with locked bootloader so used Safestrap. I was able to install the rom but can't boot into it. I'm just seeing a black screen. Let me know if you find a way to get the rom loaded correctly.

r4zrm4xxx said:
rooted razr hd on most current ota...installed most recent safestrap since cannot unlock bootloader...created a rom slot 1 and try to flash a rom but they all fail...originally trying http://true-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/update-motorola-droid-razr-hd-xt926-to_16.html but it failed so tried slimkat but also failed....idk what to do please help
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jigz23 said:
I'm actually having a similar issue in the same situation with hd maxx. Rooted with locked bootloader so used Safestrap. I was able to install the rom but can't boot into it. I'm just seeing a black screen. Let me know if you find a way to get the rom loaded correctly.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the info in that blog is inaccurate. All of those "how-to's" state that you need SafeStrap, except for Pac that says you need CWM. I'm hoping it's just a verbage mix up and he meant to say "TWRP" instead of "SafeStrap." If he meant SS, he's going to make a lot of soft-bricks. Those ROMs should not work unless you have an unlocked bootloader. They won't work with a locked bootloader and SafeStrap. The OP of those how-to's needs to dig in a little more. All of the threads for those respective ROMs on XDA and elsewhere specifically state that you need an unlocked bootloader. Root =/= unlocked bootloader. Heck, even the CM Wiki states that you need an unlocked bootloader. If your BL was unlocked and you were using SafeStrap, you would probably get those ROMs to work. However, since you cannot unlock your BL (and haven't been able to since the May update), you probably won't be able to use those ROMs. I think the person that threw that blog together did it pretty hastily, without researching. The original post was put up just a few hours ago and it hasn't been very long since the root exploit popped up.
With all of that^^^ being said, there are only a few SS compatible ROMs out there and they're all stock based. I believe Rage HD and Nexesque will work on SS. There is also a DST ROM running around that should work. DST is a debloated stock ROM with no VZW crap in it.
CM wiki: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt926_Info

RikRong said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the info in that blog is inaccurate. All of those "how-to's" state that you need SafeStrap, except for Pac that says you need CWM. I'm hoping it's just a verbage mix up and he meant to say "TWRP" instead of "SafeStrap." If he meant SS, he's going to make a lot of soft-bricks. Those ROMs should not work unless you have an unlocked bootloader. They won't work with a locked bootloader and SafeStrap. The OP of those how-to's needs to dig in a little more. All of the threads for those respective ROMs on XDA and elsewhere specifically state that you need an unlocked bootloader. Root =/= unlocked bootloader. Heck, even the CM Wiki states that you need an unlocked bootloader. If your BL was unlocked and you were using SafeStrap, you would probably get those ROMs to work. However, since you cannot unlock your BL (and haven't been able to since the May update), you probably won't be able to use those ROMs. I think the person that threw that blog together did it pretty hastily, without researching. The original post was put up just a few hours ago and it hasn't been very long since the root exploit popped up.
With all of that^^^ being said, there are only a few SS compatible ROMs out there and they're all stock based. I believe Rage HD and Nexesque will work on SS. There is also a DST ROM running around that should work. DST is a debloated stock ROM with no VZW crap in it.
CM wiki: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt926_Info
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Hey thanks a lot for the very helpful and informative info I appreciate it much. Looking into as ROMs now hopefully bootloader can be unlocked in near future
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r4zrm4xxx said:
..... hopefully bootloader can be unlocked in near future
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while someone may have tripped and fell into a big pile of root, thats not going to happen for the bootloader. you can bank on that.

i had this issue today with safestrap 3,65 when flashing any stock roms on slot 1 and it was a no go, i installed safestrap ver 3.12 and that did the trick for me.