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My first gorilla glass device was a zune HD and it didn't have any noticeable scratches on it for a month, but after that there were some damn big noticeable ones. Now I've had my samsung infuse less than a month and it's got about 5 scratches, 3 of which are easily noticeable in most conditions. Is it just me or is gorilla glass complete bullcrap? Yes I'll admit I had an iPod touch for about 6 months and the screen NEVER scratched after all the drops, kicks, and touches. But it was a piece of crap and so is Crapple so I gave it to one of my friends who I think destroyed it for fun(lol).
My pockets never have ANYTHING in them, no money, no sand, no dirt, no keys, not even headphones. So why the hell is gorilla glass scratching like plastic? I swear the plastic case I got with it has only twice as many scratches.. Now every time I put my phone in my pocket I turn the pocket inside out and smack it a few times to get any hard-to-see particles out... but there's really nothing in my pockets. It's also got a few chips like someone poked it with a nail really hard.
I should also mention my friend with an atrix looks like someone stabbed it with a knife after only being in a pocket in a briefcase with a fabric wallet (no buttons or any metal edges).
nothing is perfect，i using screen protector on all my device.
i dont believe manufacturer
Yeah I'd have a screen protector on it but I need to wait until my friend gets his new job at this place with a clean room so there's no dust or any crap floating around, it's impossible to apply it in a house without dust getting on. I already wasted $10 on a pack of them, I'm not even going to order until I'm sure I can get somewhere with a clean room, maybe intel's manufacturing facility
Gorilla Glass =/ diamond?
Use a good quality Matte-finish screen protector or a tempered glass one. They are much less prone to scratches from fine particles. Ever used a device that was NOT gorilla glass They looked like a post-war battlefield in just a few weeks. Nothings perfect though, which is why even gorillas are prone to scratching
BTW Which device are you using?
I said samsung infuse but I didn't capitalize it because I'm lazy. lol
this morning it looked like someone had took sandpaper to butter... I HAD to run out, pseudo-cleanroom my bathroom, and put a screen protector on.
probably something my 8yo daughter did.
it's small -- only a couple of mm, but it's there.
hell, i watched that youtube of the guy dragging a nail across his TF.
this wasn't supposed to happen, right?
anybody else got scratches?
can u post a pix of the scractch if possible?
Gorilla glass isn't supposed to be scratch-proof.
it decreases cracking from dropping not scratches sheesh what do you think it is made of diamond? get a zagg screen protector and your screen will never scratch again
psxpetey said:
it decreases cracking from dropping not scratches sheesh what do you think it is made of diamond? get a zagg screen protector and your screen will never scratch again
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It's not about strength - it is about being scratch resistant. That said, it's not scratch-proof - nothing is. Basically, if you've got a tiny scratch then it would be a large scratch if it weren't gorilla glass. You can still scratch it, but it's harder to do. Apparently sand is a big culprit.
gorilla glass is not scratch-proof, its only drop-proof (cracks)
Sand will scratch gorilla glass really easy.
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ive got a scratch on mine i think sand was the cause
Dumb question maybe but surely most people use screen protectors to prevent scratches even with gorilla glass?
Gorilla glass can be scratched but its pretty good though I would never leave it unprotected for the reason it is scratchable.
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I also have a very small scratch in my glass
After some time you completly ignore it and dont regard it.
i'm sorry. i can't post a pic of my scratch as i've now put a protector on the screen, which renders it completely invisible. i know! horse after cart.
this is the 2nd protector i tried; the first, a matte one, i didn't like, as it dulled the display too much. the one i have now, which shows fingerprints somewhat (not as bad as without) and causes reflections, is pretty much indistinguishable from no protector at all. very happy.
i'd recommend everybody now to get a screen protector on their TF. don't rely on the gorilla glass.
I was just talking to a friend with his Nexus Galaxy the other day. He saw my phone, SET4G the SET4G, and said he wished he had Gorilla Glass, as he had gotten a scratch, and put a screen protector on his.
Mine didn't have any scratches......... at the time, and I said, watch, I'll get a scratch now.
I got a long scratch, very light, that I noticed the other day. Plus some tiny scratches.
I don't play in the Sandbox, so I have no idea how they got there.
May have been there before, but I didn't notice. But maybe not, as I notice everything
They are very unnoticeable, but I ordered a Steinheil Crystal screen protector to slap on it.
2 to a pack for $13.99 cause I usually screw up the first install
I've read that Corning is coming out with another type of glass to supercede Gorilla Glass. I believe it's called Lotus Glass it may be available already, and may be installed on some upcoming smartphones, so I've read) and Japan already has a scratch resistant glass, I believe called Ashai? Glass.
I think Gorilla Glass has a Hardness of 7 on the Mohs Hardness scale.
The problem is that Quartz also has a Hardness of 7,which can be found in sand, as well as dust particles.
So after several failures with glass protectors and halo effects with all of them, I decided to try a PET version-- just to get some protection on the glass, thinking that I would just have to deal with the feel of it.
I tried amFilm (have used their stuff before, and it was pretty good).
Well, now a few days later, the screen does not have any halo effect. It sticks to the sides very well, and doesn't seem to be up-lifting at all. The feel is still plasticy, but that's about expected. It certainly doesn't feel as smooth as glass, but I'll take it. The glass ones were pealing off, haloing, etc etc, and this is a perfect solution. I'm sure that in time, I will come to grow used to the feel, and it won't even be a hindrance at all.
I am using the same one, someone mentioned this one on the glass SP thread so I gave it a try.
Been using it for a week now, and it's already showing some signs of use, a few scratches, pretty sure it's gonna be all over in a couple of months. I also have misty fingers, so gliding over the screen is painful in times.
One thing I don't like about it is the cutout for the front camera, they could've easily just made a hole instead of how it cuts off on the top. Also, it does lift a little bit when I press the volume or power buttons, I think I have aligned it pretty OK too, but nothing is perfect I guess.
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MMakoto said:
I am using the same one, someone mentioned this one on the glass SP thread so I gave it a try.
Been using it for a week now, and it's already showing some signs of use, a few scratches, pretty sure it's gonna be all over in a couple of months. I also have misty fingers, so gliding over the screen is painful in times.
One thing I don't like about it is the cutout for the front camera, they could've easily just made a hole instead of how it cuts off on the top. Also, it does lift a little bit when I press the volume or power buttons, I think I have aligned it pretty OK too, but nothing is perfect I guess.
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I'll have to watch out for that as I go along. At least there's a lifetime warranty- so when it does wear out, you can get another one for free!
I've been hearing some good things about this products. Thanks, I think that I'll try it out.
Using the same thing, been 2 weeks and it does get scratched easily but good enough for now. Been using amFilm for awhile too. They already made tempered glass for 6s, wish they would make one for our phones.
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So after several failures with glass protectors and halo effects with all of them, I decided to try a PET version-- just to get some protection on the glass, thinking that I would just have to deal with the feel of it.
I tried amFilm (have used their stuff before, and it was pretty good).
Well, now a few days later, the screen does not have any halo effect. It sticks to the sides very well, and doesn't seem to be up-lifting at all. The feel is still plasticy, but that's about expected. It certainly doesn't feel as smooth as glass, but I'll take it. The glass ones were pealing off, haloing, etc etc, and this is a perfect solution. I'm sure that in time, I will come to grow used to the feel, and it won't even be a hindrance at all.
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Thanks, I'll have to check this one out.
The TPU screen protectors seem to work. I have one on mine and its holding on really well. They are much like the TPU cases, a soft feeling gel like film. They are completely floppy, so dont try to pull up like the harder plastic films, they are also virtually invisible.
There are downsides, they are very floppy and stretchy, so can be tricky to fit. Im also not too sure how durable they will be. They recover from some marks quite easily, but they can snag. This is the one I have on mine..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0152BXVXE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I use the Spigen with front and rear protection. Very good quality as usual with Spigen.
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Curious to know what's the point of a screen protector these days with the glass being so scratch resistant.
I.e on my iphone 5, i had it for 2 years no protector. only scratches are ones not visible. Unless you throw your phone around like a toy, put it in a pocket full of sand ect, You really wont scratch it.
pauly92 said:
Curious to know what's the point of a screen protector these days with the glass being so scratch resistant.
I.e on my iphone 5, i had it for 2 years no protector. only scratches are ones not visible. Unless you throw your phone around like a toy, put it in a pocket full of sand ect, You really wont scratch it.
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For me it's "just in case" protection. I'm very careful with my toys, and even more so with this expensive phone. There are times when things happen and by me just being me and it falling off my lap, all it takes is that one unlucky fall when it hits the corner of the chair leg. I've never broken a phone screen, yet...
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pauly92 said:
Curious to know what's the point of a screen protector these days with the glass being so scratch resistant.
I.e on my iphone 5, i had it for 2 years no protector. only scratches are ones not visible. Unless you throw your phone around like a toy, put it in a pocket full of sand ect, You really wont scratch it.
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Gorilla Glass is about as scratch resistant as cheese. Its actually worse than normal glass. Gorilla Glass is somewhat shock resistant and highly flexible, but not scratch resistant.
ChrisM75 said:
Gorilla Glass is about as scratch resistant as cheese. Its actually worse than normal glass. Gorilla Glass is somewhat shock resistant and highly flexible, but not scratch resistant.
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I'm calling you on this one, I work with glass every day, and i'm around an engineering shop daily, so there's plenty of potential for my glass to scratch. It's held up fine for 2 years no protector.
Glass on the Mohs scale is 5.5
Gorilla glass is 6.8
Diamond is 10.
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I'm calling you on this one, I work with glass every day, and i'm around an engineering shop daily, so there's plenty of potential for my glass to scratch. It's held up fine for 2 years no protector.
Glass on the Mohs scale is 5.5
Gorilla glass is 6.8
Diamond is 10.
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'Glass' as in soda glass maybe, but plenty of other types are better. 6.8 isnt that great. It certainly doesn't explain why my last phone got a scratch after falling face first on a brand new clean carpet!
Scratching isnt all about hardness anyway, its only part of the story and is sold to us in marketing BS. A softer object can scratch a harder one, all that happens is that the softer one is damaged more. This notion that hardness alone is all there is to scratching or breaking is completely wrong and needs to stop.
A rough piece of metal, almost any metal, will tear up the surface of GG very easily indeed.
I bought a skinomi film that wraps around both edges...there self healing too
Anyone tried Pleson?
Stopped using mine, and love it. Just an overall more pleasant experience with the phone, and plan on keeping it off.
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I see no need for a screen protector if your device is equipped with Gorilla glass (and you are handling it carefully).
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I always use tempered glass screen protector to make sure fine grits of sand and any hard object don't scratch the screen. I can live with scratched bezels like that on my Note 4 but not on any of my phones's screen.
Never used a protector and have not had any problems. If I was a construction worker or farmer I'd put it in a case, but I have a desk job so it's never exposed to harsh conditions.
Dropped my phone in the parking lot a few months ago. The tempered glass took a chip on the edge, but my screen was fine. I dare not think about what would have happened to the screen otherwise.
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After a lot of drops, screen still looks intact. But from closer look I can see some scratches. If it wasn't Gorilla glass 3 I will definitely buy screen protector.
I often sell my phones and the first thing a buyer looks for are scratches on the screen; therefore, I always use a tempered glass screen protector. Over time, I find that fine scratches will develop, even with Gorilla glass.
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
I don't. Each to their own I guess.
Gorilla glass is too high rated. I've seen drop tests for all Samsung S phones, from about shoulder height. They all ended up with broken screens. Gorilla glass my ass.
The Oukitel K4000's screen is amazing. You can hammer nails with it and the screen won't even have a scratch. Manufacturers should start making screens like the K4000's screen.
Gorilla glass my ass, its scratch easily in my jeans back pocket,, so i put on tempered glass
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In the 2 1/2 years I used the S4, I never used a screen protector. My protection came from using a Nite Ize belt holster made of ballistic nylon with a flap. I do have a line across the front of the phone from wear of putting it in or out of the holster but it doesn't detract from the appearance. The phone has been dropped on occasion on a variety of surfaces with no damage to the screen.
As has been noted, YMMV. FWIW, I have moved on to the Moto X Pure and use the same type holster along with the plastic bumper that came with the phone. No drops yet but am thinking about getting a tempered glass cover.
i had a zagit but got tired of the dull screen so I removed it...glad i did and haven't scratched the screen yet
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
I use a random tempered glass screen + an otterbox defender with the built in screen protector removed.
I have this case. $15 at a stand at the mall. Rubberized layer to wrap the phone, tough tight fitting outer shell with a grippy back, bumpers on the corners and raised rubber around the screen bezel to keep the screen from making contact with the floor in case of face down drops or rubbing in the pockets. Only complaint i have with it is the holes for the volume and power buttons are a little too flush, making it a bit of a pain to get used to, but adjusting wasnt so bad after a while. And again the case is tight fitting, so getting it on and off is a minor headache but worth it. Tested drops from arms length above my head (I'm 5'9", so say about 6'8"), not a single mark on the screen. Just cracked the plastic above the volume buttons. No need for screen protector here though a tempered one would be nice. However I agree the loss in sensitivity with a screen protector on is not worth the hassle of actually applying it and risking the nasty bubbles. At $5+ a pop, having them eventually peel at the edges and get dirt under it can cause more damage than normal wear and tear if your careful enough
I never use screen protector.
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I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
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I use those cheap Walmart screen protectors, and the key to putting them on is the tape trick. Barely have any bubbles underneath.
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Ereniemis said:
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
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Agree. See no point in the tempered glass protectors when they're not gonna prevent your glad from shattering. I just use those $10 screen protectors from Walmart just to prevent little scratches from dirt and stuff. And really, I only use screen protectors now because I realize how" wet" and harder to slide your finger across a baked screen can get. Screen protectors makes swiping e screen much smoother and easier.
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I haven't. However I do have a case that has a slight bumper around the top of my screen, therefore there is no huge need for me to have one.
I bought an S8+ on in October after cracking my phone during a trip. Since I wasn't sure if I'd want to keep it vs repairing my S7 Edge, I kept the factory protective films on the screen and back glass during Best Buy's return period.
This backfired when the front film came loose a handful of times. When it happened, I'd simply smooth it back down before dirt or lint could get in. However, when I ultimately removed the film, I noticed that grease etc would collect along several roughly horizontal lines where the peeling I described had halted.
Assuming this was just some residue from the film, I polished with a lint free cloth and got a mirror surface. Problem solved, I thought. But grease quickly builds up in the same places again. I tried mild dish soap, isopropyl alcohol, lens cleaner, and physically scraping with a fingernail--all with no improvement.
You think you're doing something, because you can see the line of greasy stuff being disturbed and removed, and the clean surface looks perfect. But there's something fundamentally different about the surface in these spots that re-attracts the grease--I can also see it holding on to water condensation differently.
After reading a bit I've concluded there's probably an oleophobic coating on these screens that got messed up by interacting with the creased film. It's more than a little disturbing and ironic that Samsung's own protective film should mar the screen in a way that's at least persistent, if not permanent. I'd recommend anyone buying an s8/s8+ take the damn thing off immediately in favor of whatever aftermarket protection they've chosen, or just leave it bare.
Has anyone else experienced this kind of thing and been able to address it successfully? Don't want to go off half-cocked with abrasives or harsh chemicals. I see there are oleophobic coating refreshers on the market, but I don't know how well they work on non-uniform damage.
Well sounds like your olephobic coating has come away. It is possible it was always not perfect. My screen has a patch of olephobic coating by the speaker grille that is missing from new. The initial cover isn't a screen protector so in my opinion is should be replaced immediately.