So after several failures with glass protectors and halo effects with all of them, I decided to try a PET version-- just to get some protection on the glass, thinking that I would just have to deal with the feel of it.
I tried amFilm (have used their stuff before, and it was pretty good).
Well, now a few days later, the screen does not have any halo effect. It sticks to the sides very well, and doesn't seem to be up-lifting at all. The feel is still plasticy, but that's about expected. It certainly doesn't feel as smooth as glass, but I'll take it. The glass ones were pealing off, haloing, etc etc, and this is a perfect solution. I'm sure that in time, I will come to grow used to the feel, and it won't even be a hindrance at all.
I am using the same one, someone mentioned this one on the glass SP thread so I gave it a try.
Been using it for a week now, and it's already showing some signs of use, a few scratches, pretty sure it's gonna be all over in a couple of months. I also have misty fingers, so gliding over the screen is painful in times.
One thing I don't like about it is the cutout for the front camera, they could've easily just made a hole instead of how it cuts off on the top. Also, it does lift a little bit when I press the volume or power buttons, I think I have aligned it pretty OK too, but nothing is perfect I guess.
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I am using the same one, someone mentioned this one on the glass SP thread so I gave it a try.
Been using it for a week now, and it's already showing some signs of use, a few scratches, pretty sure it's gonna be all over in a couple of months. I also have misty fingers, so gliding over the screen is painful in times.
One thing I don't like about it is the cutout for the front camera, they could've easily just made a hole instead of how it cuts off on the top. Also, it does lift a little bit when I press the volume or power buttons, I think I have aligned it pretty OK too, but nothing is perfect I guess.
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I'll have to watch out for that as I go along. At least there's a lifetime warranty- so when it does wear out, you can get another one for free!
I've been hearing some good things about this products. Thanks, I think that I'll try it out.
Using the same thing, been 2 weeks and it does get scratched easily but good enough for now. Been using amFilm for awhile too. They already made tempered glass for 6s, wish they would make one for our phones.
a.gu said:
So after several failures with glass protectors and halo effects with all of them, I decided to try a PET version-- just to get some protection on the glass, thinking that I would just have to deal with the feel of it.
I tried amFilm (have used their stuff before, and it was pretty good).
Well, now a few days later, the screen does not have any halo effect. It sticks to the sides very well, and doesn't seem to be up-lifting at all. The feel is still plasticy, but that's about expected. It certainly doesn't feel as smooth as glass, but I'll take it. The glass ones were pealing off, haloing, etc etc, and this is a perfect solution. I'm sure that in time, I will come to grow used to the feel, and it won't even be a hindrance at all.
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Thanks, I'll have to check this one out.
The TPU screen protectors seem to work. I have one on mine and its holding on really well. They are much like the TPU cases, a soft feeling gel like film. They are completely floppy, so dont try to pull up like the harder plastic films, they are also virtually invisible.
There are downsides, they are very floppy and stretchy, so can be tricky to fit. Im also not too sure how durable they will be. They recover from some marks quite easily, but they can snag. This is the one I have on mine..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0152BXVXE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I use the Spigen with front and rear protection. Very good quality as usual with Spigen.
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Curious to know what's the point of a screen protector these days with the glass being so scratch resistant.
I.e on my iphone 5, i had it for 2 years no protector. only scratches are ones not visible. Unless you throw your phone around like a toy, put it in a pocket full of sand ect, You really wont scratch it.
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Curious to know what's the point of a screen protector these days with the glass being so scratch resistant.
I.e on my iphone 5, i had it for 2 years no protector. only scratches are ones not visible. Unless you throw your phone around like a toy, put it in a pocket full of sand ect, You really wont scratch it.
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For me it's "just in case" protection. I'm very careful with my toys, and even more so with this expensive phone. There are times when things happen and by me just being me and it falling off my lap, all it takes is that one unlucky fall when it hits the corner of the chair leg. I've never broken a phone screen, yet...
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pauly92 said:
Curious to know what's the point of a screen protector these days with the glass being so scratch resistant.
I.e on my iphone 5, i had it for 2 years no protector. only scratches are ones not visible. Unless you throw your phone around like a toy, put it in a pocket full of sand ect, You really wont scratch it.
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Gorilla Glass is about as scratch resistant as cheese. Its actually worse than normal glass. Gorilla Glass is somewhat shock resistant and highly flexible, but not scratch resistant.
ChrisM75 said:
Gorilla Glass is about as scratch resistant as cheese. Its actually worse than normal glass. Gorilla Glass is somewhat shock resistant and highly flexible, but not scratch resistant.
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I'm calling you on this one, I work with glass every day, and i'm around an engineering shop daily, so there's plenty of potential for my glass to scratch. It's held up fine for 2 years no protector.
Glass on the Mohs scale is 5.5
Gorilla glass is 6.8
Diamond is 10.
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I'm calling you on this one, I work with glass every day, and i'm around an engineering shop daily, so there's plenty of potential for my glass to scratch. It's held up fine for 2 years no protector.
Glass on the Mohs scale is 5.5
Gorilla glass is 6.8
Diamond is 10.
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'Glass' as in soda glass maybe, but plenty of other types are better. 6.8 isnt that great. It certainly doesn't explain why my last phone got a scratch after falling face first on a brand new clean carpet!
Scratching isnt all about hardness anyway, its only part of the story and is sold to us in marketing BS. A softer object can scratch a harder one, all that happens is that the softer one is damaged more. This notion that hardness alone is all there is to scratching or breaking is completely wrong and needs to stop.
A rough piece of metal, almost any metal, will tear up the surface of GG very easily indeed.
I bought a skinomi film that wraps around both edges...there self healing too
Anyone tried Pleson?
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I've had my Infuse for 4-5 days and really love the design and all the cool stuff here on xda (as usual). Does Gorilla Glass mean that I don't need a screen protector? I've never been a fan of them. Also, I'm pretty gentle with my phones and would like to keep the stock look with no outer case. What do you guys think, am I flirting with disaster?
EDIT: bought a case-mate pop case in white/gray. Very happy with case and still no screen protector.
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I've had my Infuse for 4-5 days and really love the design and all the cool stuff here on xda (as usual). Does Gorilla Glass mean that I don't need a screen protector? I've never been a fan of them. Also, I'm pretty gentle with my phones and would like to keep the stock look with no outer case. What do you guys think, am I flirting with disaster?
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The glass is extremely hard. There are videos of people online taking razor blades to it. The plastic on the outside, however, will be more prone to scratches. It's really up to you, but I've had mine for a few weeks, and there are no visible signs of use. I don't baby my phones, but I also am not too tough on them.
There's my 2¢. I hope it helps.
I like using my phone naked because I haven't found any screen protectors that I really like yet, and I like the device without a case. That being said, I bought the moshi screen protector and casemate pop case, mostly for when I am going to be somewhere or doing something that could put my phone in danger...like when I'm drinking and prone to dropping my phone haha. Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof, so it's a good idea to have a screen protector in some situations.
The moshi screen protector is a tad expensive, but I think it's totally worth it for high risk situations. You can take it off and reuse it as many times as you want, and it's really easy to do so. That allows me to put it on quick when I need it, and take it off when I know it's safe. I don't like using it day to day because I love the screen on this phone, and the matte finish on the moshi makes it a bit pixilated. However, it's a life saver in many situations, and I can stand it being on there for the peace of mind while I'm doing something that requires it.
And it's always a good idea to have a case on hand just for rugged situations, and I find the pop to be very nice. It provides a ton of protection in not so huge of a package. While it's not as rugged as an otterbox or ballistic case, my phone has taken quite a few spills from 4+ feet off the ground in my case, and it still fits in my pockets just fine. Another good case that I would recommend is the body glove mirage case. It's a rubbery tpu case that is very pocketable and also provides a lot of protection. All of the accessories I've mentioned can be found at At&t stores, but you can find them cheaper elsewhere, as they mark them up a bit.
Hope I helped!
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I'll take a look at those cases, thanks! I don't do anything that drops my phone from 4+ feet off the ground, I'd have a freaking heart attack!
What are you doing with your phone up that high?
my plastic is all in perfect shape, but my screen has a couple of scratches on it
i try to keep it nice, but it's not easy with this big of a screen..
I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?
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I'll take a look at those cases, thanks! I don't do anything that drops my phone from 4+ feet off the ground, I'd have a freaking heart attack!
What are you doing with your phone up that high?
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I'm 6'2", 4 feet off the ground is standard usage height for me while I'm standing. Haha. And gorilla glass can be scratched, I have a micro scratch on my screen from throwing my keys in my pocket.
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I'm 6'2", 4 feet off the ground is standard usage height for me while I'm standing. Haha. And gorilla glass can be scratched, I have a micro scratch on my screen from throwing my keys in my pocket.
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Oh ok, that makes sense. I think I'm still going to go bare for now, I'm pretty anal about treating it right. Thanks for the advice!
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I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?
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it likely rubbed against the keys in my pocket, doesn't bother me though. just letting you know that gorilla glass is not invulnerable
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it likely rubbed against the keys in my pocket, doesn't bother me though. just letting you know that gorilla glass is not invulnerable
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We must have different glass or something for our screens. I took a razorblade to my old nexus one which was sporting gorilla glass, and there was no visible sign that anything had even happened to it. There are also videos of people online going absolutely nuts on their screens with the same results.
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just need something harder than gorilla glass to scratch it. a diamond or maybe some other jewels will easily scratch as well as concrete and maybe some hard steels. keys or gold aren't likely to scratch but some key rings are made from a hard spring steel and might scrach. there is also a coating of some type on the glass that may show scratches.
the plastic definately needs protection. it is break resistant but it is way soft and the lame shiny coating can scratch off.
Scratched my screen with something. Always in its own pocket. Get a screen protector.
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For myself I don't use a screen protector (had the phone since it came out). The Infuse's screen behaves just like my ole iphone4, if not better.
As others have said, the side chrome plastic will scratch easily so a case is warranted.
I actually have never dropped my phone or anything and I have two micro scratches. Samsung is willing to fix it for free the problem is you have to send them the phone and be without one for 7 days.
I work in construction, I use the Ballistics case and a screen protector on the phone, I dropped it from 10ft off a ladder onto concrete, no damage to phone or case. Best money I ever spent
No screen protector or case on my Infuse, and it's been that way since I bought it two months ago. I have one tiny, tiny scratch on the far left side of the front, but it's so far over that it isn't actually on the screen. I have no idea how it got there, I think there must have been a tiny rock or something in my pocket at one point the scratched it. Who knows. My phone has unfortunately been dropped maybe 5 times, and this never caused any damage. I think your phone will be just fine naked.
I decided to get the Case-Mate Pop case. It makes my phone look like a stormtrooper! Still no screen protector tho.
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I'm using a body glove, no screen protector.
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Hi guys im debating weather to put a screen protector on this baby or not, just got her yesterday. Has anyone experienced scratches? Also would someone recommend a good screen protector other than Zagg or invisishield. I'm done with those types. Also I got a casemate today but it kinda sucks, gonna return it tomorrow. Any recommendations on cases? Thanks.
I've heard from a few people on here that they've experienced scratches. I think if you are really careful you can get away with it. Some of the better cases have a lip which will protect it from falling flat on the screen.
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http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
I don't use them ...
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http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
grinmaul said:
I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.
Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.
okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.
Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!
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Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.
I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?
A lot of people use screen protectors and some don't....
I bought two but both got dust underneath them while installing them....and then they started peeling because of my case......
I do baby my phone to some extent and use it sensibly..
To people who use the phone naked how scratch resistant is the screen? Is it as good as an iPhone 4/4S (just a reference because my mom's has no screen guard from almost a year and there are no scratches at all....)?
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Its pretty good tbh, I've never had any scratch or any sort of screen protection on any of my phones, to be fair Ive dropped quite a few times and it has one minor scratch at bottom of screen, but its very minimal, other than that its pretty solid I've had in pocket with coins keys, dropped it and feel out pocket a couple of times. I'd say it matches the iPhone 4s screen resistance my gf got that and she is just as clumsy as me.
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tiru.adi13 said:
A lot of people use screen protectors and some don't....
I bought two but both got dust underneath them while installing them....and then they started peeling because of my case......
I do baby my phone to some extent and use it sensibly..
To people who use the phone naked how scratch resistant is the screen? Is it as good as an iPhone 4/4S (just a reference because my mom's has no screen guard from almost a year and there are no scratches at all....)?
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Keep in mind that EVERY phone is susceptible to micro scratches. Scratches happen when an object that is harder than the screen comes in contact with it. Since our screens are gorilla glass, it is harder than keys, coins, knives, etc. These objects won't scratch the screen.
But dust and sand have particles in them that are as hard as diamond so any phone (including iphones) will get micro scratches after a while. If you hold your mom's phone up to the light you'll see them.
I put a very small (almost invisible) scratch in mine shortly after getting it. I think it came from dropping it in the local golf course pro shop (commercial carpet on concrete slab), where I am guessing some embedded sand was the culprit. Sand has no problem scratching glass - even Gorilla Glass. Since then, no other scratches have surfaced on either the front or back. I make sure my pockets are free from sand and dirt.
I do not like screen protectors. IMHO, the ruin the look and feel of a nice phone.
Mine was dropped from my pant's pocket and I have one visible scratch in the front glass near top.
Tough I have also tested nailing the front with T5 Torx screw driver without a single scratch but this fall from pocket was not that major fall but the scratch is there. :crying:
I have a rev_11 Nexus manufactured in May 2013. Its Indian version.
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I have never put any scratch guard or covers on any of my phones but this time it seems I will have to get some slim cover for the back atleast.
I didn't use screen protectors for a long time until I noticed the micro scratches all over in certain lighting. the good ones are very scratch resistant and hardly feel any different from the glass. Ive tried more than a few between my iphone and nexus, and the SGP ultra crystal are my favorite by far. I like them even better than the expensive tempered glass screen protectors.
you can get a dust free installation pretty easily with the dry install protectors. The secret is using tape to remove any dust that gets trapped under it. I've only ever had one dust free install that didn't require the use of tape. The steamy shower trick makes it even easier. Then, on the oleophobic surfaces you can even actually very slowly massage the protector around the glass after installation, which means it's very easy to get perfect placement.
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I have a very light scratch on my screen. I wanted to play with it before covering it. Of course, with my luck, I got one within 24 hours. I think it was when my little maltese walked over it. Unless it was just my dry fingers cutting it up.
Off the bat I used my N4 without a screen protector for the front (one for the back though) and I had not a single scratch on the front for ~4 months.
I have screen protectors on the front now and it doesn't really matter to me, but I did drop it in the washroom where it dented the screen. Besides that, no micro scratches or anything, so I say the Nexus 4 is solid.
how does the screen get dented? you mean the chrome around the screen right?!
Ive had the phone for a few months and never used a case however there are some micro scratches which are barely visible, more on the back than the front. I got a diztronik slim case to use when i will be working in a dirty environment which helps, but 90% of the time NO CASE NAKED IS THE WAY TO GO. (I have dropped it twice luckily only a small mark on the edge/border ring)
I would highly recommend a case or a screen protector. When I first got the phone I decided not to use a case and within a few days had several scratches on the back and one on the front side without ever dropping it.
I got a case that lasted me a few months then fell apart and got ugly so i took it off and now I got 2 NEW scratch on the top right by the camera
Now I'm trying to find whats the best screen protector then might add the bumper.
funky_snowman said:
I didn't use screen protectors for a long time until I noticed the micro scratches all over in certain lighting. the good ones are very scratch resistant and hardly feel any different from the glass. Ive tried more than a few between my iphone and nexus, and the SGP ultra crystal are my favorite by far. I like them even better than the expensive tempered glass screen protectors.
you can get a dust free installation pretty easily with the dry install protectors. The secret is using tape to remove any dust that gets trapped under it. I've only ever had one dust free install that didn't require the use of tape. The steamy shower trick makes it even easier. Then, on the oleophobic surfaces you can even actually very slowly massage the protector around the glass after installation, which means it's very easy to get perfect placement.
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Another tip is to take a hot shower and do the application immediately afterward so that the dust settles and no more falls on the screen during application. Worked perfectly for me
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My first Nexus 4 got a lot of small scratches at the corners on the screen, I took great care of it but I guess my pockets scratched it? I got a replacement and it is a lot better. I have about a 1mm scratch in the center only from having my keys in the same pocket. I have a bumper and I only have one screen protector on the back now because I heard it's not gorilla glass and it's more pron to scratches.
I use a tempered glass screen protector regardless of durability. I hate having scratches at all and my last nexus 4 before I rma'd had scratches visible and annoying in sunlight.
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I got 2 scratches on the back
I got a front screen guard but no back screen guard
I never kept my phone on its back (rarely do)
I guess I scratched it using my own fingernails which I am too lazy to cut
These 2 scratches make me feel so bad that I just ordered a ballistic case
So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
mortymouse said:
So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Appreciate the input, I was thinking about picking this up. I know mime ghost are top of the line but also don't want to spend a fortune on a screen protector. Will pick this up
Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
mortymouse said:
So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
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How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
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I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
nickhowell25 said:
Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
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Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
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You got it!
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
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The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
dw4 said:
The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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The only glass protecter i ever had was a 5 hardness and it could barely bend, it was just like glass they shiped it in a armored box lol ( just kiddin ) so it wouldn't break during shipping.
Well if we all agreed, then life wouldn't be very interesting.
Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
AuGmENTor said:
Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
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Happy to pass good deals on especially whenever the product works!
Stopped using mine, and love it. Just an overall more pleasant experience with the phone, and plan on keeping it off.
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I see no need for a screen protector if your device is equipped with Gorilla glass (and you are handling it carefully).
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I always use tempered glass screen protector to make sure fine grits of sand and any hard object don't scratch the screen. I can live with scratched bezels like that on my Note 4 but not on any of my phones's screen.
Never used a protector and have not had any problems. If I was a construction worker or farmer I'd put it in a case, but I have a desk job so it's never exposed to harsh conditions.
Dropped my phone in the parking lot a few months ago. The tempered glass took a chip on the edge, but my screen was fine. I dare not think about what would have happened to the screen otherwise.
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After a lot of drops, screen still looks intact. But from closer look I can see some scratches. If it wasn't Gorilla glass 3 I will definitely buy screen protector.
I often sell my phones and the first thing a buyer looks for are scratches on the screen; therefore, I always use a tempered glass screen protector. Over time, I find that fine scratches will develop, even with Gorilla glass.
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
I don't. Each to their own I guess.
Gorilla glass is too high rated. I've seen drop tests for all Samsung S phones, from about shoulder height. They all ended up with broken screens. Gorilla glass my ass.
The Oukitel K4000's screen is amazing. You can hammer nails with it and the screen won't even have a scratch. Manufacturers should start making screens like the K4000's screen.
Gorilla glass my ass, its scratch easily in my jeans back pocket,, so i put on tempered glass
My protection
In the 2 1/2 years I used the S4, I never used a screen protector. My protection came from using a Nite Ize belt holster made of ballistic nylon with a flap. I do have a line across the front of the phone from wear of putting it in or out of the holster but it doesn't detract from the appearance. The phone has been dropped on occasion on a variety of surfaces with no damage to the screen.
As has been noted, YMMV. FWIW, I have moved on to the Moto X Pure and use the same type holster along with the plastic bumper that came with the phone. No drops yet but am thinking about getting a tempered glass cover.
i had a zagit but got tired of the dull screen so I removed it...glad i did and haven't scratched the screen yet
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
I use a random tempered glass screen + an otterbox defender with the built in screen protector removed.
I have this case. $15 at a stand at the mall. Rubberized layer to wrap the phone, tough tight fitting outer shell with a grippy back, bumpers on the corners and raised rubber around the screen bezel to keep the screen from making contact with the floor in case of face down drops or rubbing in the pockets. Only complaint i have with it is the holes for the volume and power buttons are a little too flush, making it a bit of a pain to get used to, but adjusting wasnt so bad after a while. And again the case is tight fitting, so getting it on and off is a minor headache but worth it. Tested drops from arms length above my head (I'm 5'9", so say about 6'8"), not a single mark on the screen. Just cracked the plastic above the volume buttons. No need for screen protector here though a tempered one would be nice. However I agree the loss in sensitivity with a screen protector on is not worth the hassle of actually applying it and risking the nasty bubbles. At $5+ a pop, having them eventually peel at the edges and get dirt under it can cause more damage than normal wear and tear if your careful enough
I never use screen protector.
chiruscan said:
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
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I use those cheap Walmart screen protectors, and the key to putting them on is the tape trick. Barely have any bubbles underneath.
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Ereniemis said:
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
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Agree. See no point in the tempered glass protectors when they're not gonna prevent your glad from shattering. I just use those $10 screen protectors from Walmart just to prevent little scratches from dirt and stuff. And really, I only use screen protectors now because I realize how" wet" and harder to slide your finger across a baked screen can get. Screen protectors makes swiping e screen much smoother and easier.
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I haven't. However I do have a case that has a slight bumper around the top of my screen, therefore there is no huge need for me to have one.