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gorilla glass with screen protector?

Just wondering your thoughts.. For the Nexus S do you really need a Zagg since it comes with Gorilla Glass?
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xmattoxx said:
Just wondering your thoughts.. For the Nexus S do you really need a Zagg since it comes with Gorilla Glass?
thanks
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It does not come with Corning Gorilla Glass.

glmrckr said:
It does not come with Corning Gorilla Glass.
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this!
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Even though it doesn't have gorilla glass, the screen seems to be scratch resistant. I know because I don't use a screen protector.
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Same here, I don't use a screen protector and don't think I need one at this point. I've had my phone for months now, and its been through situations where scratches should be inevitable. The case has a few nicks around the edges, but there is only 1 tiny tiny hairline scratch going across the home button. Not noticeable, I only noticed it when looking at the slight wave of the glass right next to the lamp.
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Even though it suppose to be scratch proof, i would still recommend a screen protector.

For who are you saving the screen? To the next owner? Doesn't it look ugly with the screen protector? I have never understand these. I use my phones usually 6-12months. I have got twice a tiny, tiny hair scratch to the screen. One was Gorilla glass (I think it's soooo over hyped), other one just scratch resistant. For my htc hero I never got a scratch in 6 months... I wonder how you treat your phones...
So no I don't use a screen protector, not after Nokia 5800XM which had a plastic screen. And even with that I got bored to the protector and rip it off after few week...

JuWa said:
For who are you saving the screen? To the next owner? Doesn't it look ugly with the screen protector? I have never understand these. I use my phones usually 6-12months. I have got twice a tiny, tiny hair scratch to the screen. One was Gorilla glass (I think it's soooo over hyped), other one just scratch resistant. For my htc hero I never got a scratch in 6 months... I wonder how you treat your phones...
So no I don't use a screen protector, not after Nokia 5800XM which had a plastic screen. And even with that I got bored to the protector and rip it off after few week...
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i like to keep it scratch free.cuz im like that.
but even if the next adopt of my phone would have a scratch free nexus s
it still means more money than a scratched one.
though im keeping my android phone's(for development for example)
unless i really need the money

Niilken 9H+ tempered glass protector

Just received Niilken 9H+ tempered glass screen protector from www.cbay.co.nz
Handful of cleaning agents included with the protector.
1. Wet cleaning cloth
2. Dry cleaning cloth
3. Adhesive film to remove dust
4. Wiping cloth
5. Extra stickers to hold the protector without directly touching
Unfortunately, the one I received did not fully adhere to the screen. There were gaps all around the protector border, and refused to set properly even after firmly pressing it down.
It did not affect s-pen functionality nor front camera, but it could have been better.
Overall, otherwise looks good and does its job as one of the first tempered glass protectors for note 4.
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Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.

jah said:
Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
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That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.

mkim055 said:
That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvious" curve at the edge of the screen. Most (all current?) tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.

SquidgyB said:
He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvoius" curve at the edge of the screen. most tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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You are right, I actually misread that as 2.5D for screen protector. I am aware of the screen curvature starting within the viewing screen.
Thank you though.
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iloome is currently the only company who is making a Note 4 tempered glass screen protector that is designed to fit OVER the 2.5D curved edges,
All other pieces will either stop short of the curve or will have issues adhering.

Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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"Pretty scratch resistant" isn't "completely immune to scratches". The point being that if you cover your phone with a protector no matter what happens (short of a drop/stanley knife) you're quite literally covered. Having a decent screen protector, glass or not, along with a case means you can throw your phone into a pocket with a bunch of keys with little regard to how your phone will fare.
I'd much rather have to replace a £5-15 protector than realise at some point that there's a scratch on the actual glass on my screen. You can't go back from that - you can replace protectors easily. People have different usage profiles, just because your 3 phones are scratch free, doesn't mean that others won't want to protect theirs.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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I always thought the same, but afraid to try it.... anybody else not use any protection and not get scratches?

Your right I have friends that are tradesmen, and I wouldn't go without a screen protector if I was them. I wouldn't go with a high even phone either.
But in my case my G3 / Note 4 is in my pocket and just my phone alone. Maybe that's why. I don't put my phone inside with coins or keys. That's asking for trouble

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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One of the reviewers Note 4s screen got scratched during use after a few days(can't remember which site it way). I also remember seeing a video where Gorilla Glass gets microscopic scratches without a protector and these scratches make the whole structure weaker and more prone to shatter when dropped.

What's the difference between a screen protector and a tempered glass one?

What the heck is the difference between THIS (a regular HD Screen Protector) and THIS (a tempered glass screen protector)

Reg screen protectors are just thin pieces of film that don't do much protecting against drops, but will prevent minor scratches. Temp glass usually has a hardness of h9 and will save your screen if it takes a bad spill, I know of this first hand. Hopefully the temp glass will cracked leaving your phones screen intact. Temp glass is just better protection all around AND it will prevent your screen from becoming part of the recycling trash on friday. Temp glass has saved me twice, one with a note 4 and once with an LG g3. I would never go back to buying those thin film protectors that do nothing

I don't have first-hand experience with tempered glass protectors, but I do think standard screen protectors offer more protection than twoeleven99 indicated. I used a Skinomi front and back protector on my Nexus 4 (also a glass sandwich), and it adds a nice barrier to the glass. It also has some give, so it absorbs some of the impacts that would otherwise shatter glass.
Another thing I liked is that it adds slightly more grip than glass, preventing drops and slips. It would also be way more practical for the S6 edge, since the wet-apply ones can handle curved screens no problem.
That said, I'm going to give a tempered glass one a shot this time to see if it is more clear (eg: less rainbowing or orange peel effect).

As mentioned already, a tempered glass screen protector will do a better job protecting your phone's screen from damage. They may cost more initially, but they'll last a while. You typically have to change out plastic screen protectors more frequently after light scratches have built up.
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I've been using tempered glass screen protectors for the last 2 years. They add thickness, but they're honestly amazing. One thing that I've never really confirmed, but I keep hearing rumors that when dropping a device with a tempered glass screen protector, the energy disperses onto the protector, therefore shattering the protector rather than the phone's screen itself. I never really had a massive drop before to test this out (nor do I have the funds to break my phones), but I have dropped my G2 before, and the corner of the protector cracked while the screen itself was completely fine.
I also like how glass feels compared to PET screen protectors.

asdfvtn said:
I've been using tempered glass screen protectors for the last 2 years. They add thickness, but they're honestly amazing. One thing that I've never really confirmed, but I keep hearing rumors that when dropping a device with a tempered glass screen protector, the energy disperses onto the protector, therefore shattering the protector rather than the phone's screen itself. I never really had a massive drop before to test this out (nor do I have the funds to break my phones), but I have dropped my G2 before, and the corner of the protector cracked while the screen itself was completely fine.
I also like how glass feels compared to PET screen protectors.
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I've had the tempered glass completely shatter from one end to the other on 2 devices. Peeled it off and the screen under never had a scratch on it

Does anyone not use a screen protector?

Stopped using mine, and love it. Just an overall more pleasant experience with the phone, and plan on keeping it off.
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I see no need for a screen protector if your device is equipped with Gorilla glass (and you are handling it carefully).
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I always use tempered glass screen protector to make sure fine grits of sand and any hard object don't scratch the screen. I can live with scratched bezels like that on my Note 4 but not on any of my phones's screen.

Never used a protector and have not had any problems. If I was a construction worker or farmer I'd put it in a case, but I have a desk job so it's never exposed to harsh conditions.

Dropped my phone in the parking lot a few months ago. The tempered glass took a chip on the edge, but my screen was fine. I dare not think about what would have happened to the screen otherwise.

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After a lot of drops, screen still looks intact. But from closer look I can see some scratches. If it wasn't Gorilla glass 3 I will definitely buy screen protector.

I often sell my phones and the first thing a buyer looks for are scratches on the screen; therefore, I always use a tempered glass screen protector. Over time, I find that fine scratches will develop, even with Gorilla glass.

As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...

I don't. Each to their own I guess.

Gorilla glass is too high rated. I've seen drop tests for all Samsung S phones, from about shoulder height. They all ended up with broken screens. Gorilla glass my ass.
The Oukitel K4000's screen is amazing. You can hammer nails with it and the screen won't even have a scratch. Manufacturers should start making screens like the K4000's screen.

Gorilla glass my ass, its scratch easily in my jeans back pocket,, so i put on tempered glass

My protection
In the 2 1/2 years I used the S4, I never used a screen protector. My protection came from using a Nite Ize belt holster made of ballistic nylon with a flap. I do have a line across the front of the phone from wear of putting it in or out of the holster but it doesn't detract from the appearance. The phone has been dropped on occasion on a variety of surfaces with no damage to the screen.
As has been noted, YMMV. FWIW, I have moved on to the Moto X Pure and use the same type holster along with the plastic bumper that came with the phone. No drops yet but am thinking about getting a tempered glass cover.

i had a zagit but got tired of the dull screen so I removed it...glad i did and haven't scratched the screen yet

I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.

I use a random tempered glass screen + an otterbox defender with the built in screen protector removed.

I have this case. $15 at a stand at the mall. Rubberized layer to wrap the phone, tough tight fitting outer shell with a grippy back, bumpers on the corners and raised rubber around the screen bezel to keep the screen from making contact with the floor in case of face down drops or rubbing in the pockets. Only complaint i have with it is the holes for the volume and power buttons are a little too flush, making it a bit of a pain to get used to, but adjusting wasnt so bad after a while. And again the case is tight fitting, so getting it on and off is a minor headache but worth it. Tested drops from arms length above my head (I'm 5'9", so say about 6'8"), not a single mark on the screen. Just cracked the plastic above the volume buttons. No need for screen protector here though a tempered one would be nice. However I agree the loss in sensitivity with a screen protector on is not worth the hassle of actually applying it and risking the nasty bubbles. At $5+ a pop, having them eventually peel at the edges and get dirt under it can cause more damage than normal wear and tear if your careful enough

I never use screen protector.

chiruscan said:
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
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I use those cheap Walmart screen protectors, and the key to putting them on is the tape trick. Barely have any bubbles underneath.
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Ereniemis said:
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
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Agree. See no point in the tempered glass protectors when they're not gonna prevent your glad from shattering. I just use those $10 screen protectors from Walmart just to prevent little scratches from dirt and stuff. And really, I only use screen protectors now because I realize how" wet" and harder to slide your finger across a baked screen can get. Screen protectors makes swiping e screen much smoother and easier.
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I haven't. However I do have a case that has a slight bumper around the top of my screen, therefore there is no huge need for me to have one.

Decent screen protector that is NOT tempered glass, or just go naked?

I think we have beat the tempered glass subject to death here... I removed my half-peeled off Tantek tempered glass protector and tried to apply a new one, didn't go so well, this one kept lifting right below the bottom speaker and I tried a little heat from a hair dryer (from a YT video) and it got worse instead of better... long story shortened, the new one is broken and went in the trash and my phone has no screen protector in it's Poetic Affinity case.
Are there any plastic film screen protectors that fit well and don't feel like cling wrap? Supershieldz seem to have mostly good reviews on Amazon, and 6 of them for $6 is pretty cheap.
Is it really worth it to use a simple film screen protector if it isn't tempered glass since we already have Gorilla Glass 3?

Gave up
I thought of this and ultimately decided on not using a screen protector at all after having no luck with tempered glass. Unless you're going for 5+ years of daily usage or live on the sand or use your phone as a cutting board, I don't really feel that they're necessary for anything other than accommodating for the massive and annoying lip that is found on many protective casings.
Realistically, how long does it take to scratch a screen up real bad? I had (and still have) a tempered glass protector on the Note 2 and only ended up with two small, minor scratches on it after nearly three years of daily use.

acejavelin said:
I think we have beat the tempered glass subject to death here... I removed my half-peeled off Tantek tempered glass protector and tried to apply a new one, didn't go so well, this one kept lifting right below the bottom speaker and I tried a little heat from a hair dryer (from a YT video) and it got worse instead of better... long story shortened, the new one is broken and went in the trash and my phone has no screen protector in it's Poetic Affinity case.
Are there any plastic film screen protectors that fit well and don't feel like cling wrap? Supershieldz seem to have mostly good reviews on Amazon, and 6 of them for $6 is pretty cheap.
Is it really worth it to use a simple film screen protector if it isn't tempered glass since we already have Gorilla Glass 3?
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I would say that you should look at the old screen protector you removed and determine how scratched it was. Just a few after a year or more of usage, your probably fine running naked.

aybarrap1 said:
I would say that you should look at the old screen protector you removed and determine how scratched it was. Just a few after a year or more of usage, your probably fine running naked.
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Yeah, it looked pretty good actually... Probably just going to go plain.

Been I using mine for a year and a half with no screen protector. Just an incipio octane case most of the time.
Can't see a single scratch even in bright light, at an angle, with the screen off. It has held up quite well.

I too have been thinking of going without a tempered glass. But a few times my phone drops on the screen side and then I thank my tempered glass. It's worth it for me, because if the screen breaks it will probably be very expensive to replace and I don't want to spend anything more than 2 dollars on my moto x style

I used to use zag screen protectors they make a plastic one that felt ok not great with my note 3 went to glass never looked back until the moto x pure but i don't think ill go back to plastic ill probably stick with glass and put up with the slight halo
i have had the best luck with pleson on my moto x i have scratched the glass protectors and my old pleason saved my screen. The biggest thing i don't like about this phone is the lack of good cases all of the cases suck and the otter box is poorly designed...

I have dropped getting a screen protector after getting a Galaxy S3.
Gorilla Glass is pretty tough, and I have had my Pure for probably 5-6 months now, and I do not see any noticeable scratches. Not that it is flawless, just a few very tiny scratches that I would not see unless if I looked very closely. Just go naked, and be careful when you're near sand.

Remote_Data said:
I have dropped getting a screen protector after getting a Galaxy S3.
Gorilla Glass is pretty tough, and I have had my Pure for probably 5-6 months now, and I do not see any noticeable scratches. Not that it is flawless, just a few very tiny scratches that I would not see unless if I looked very closely. Just go naked, and be careful when you're near sand.
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Yep. Sand is a pristine screen killer. I really have no choice since I live in a coastal city. Sand is everywhere and needless to say, my glass screen protectors scratch up very noticeably within a year (doesn't matter the brand either). I baby my phones even with a sturdy case so it is not neglect on my part. I typically use a holster as well so that sand that may be trapped in my pocket cannot do a number on my screen protectors.