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Went back to stock after flashing 4.1.1 JB

Just wanted to give my experience of flashing to the JB 4.1.1 CleanRom 4.0. I was on stock, everything running fine, batterly life is great, but got the flashing itch and was waiting on JB. Saw the preliminary post on the forums and everything looked ok for the leaked 4.1.1 and decided to flash it. My impression was it was ok, nothing special and whats worst, my battery life became horrible. Some sort of bug about media wakelock etc...
I stayed on it for 2 days and decided to flash back to my nandroid backup.(thank god I did it)
So for now, think Imma stay put on flashing until things settles a bit.
BTW, yes I did flash the latest radios on the leaked 4.1.1. I'm back on the HE radios now.

Did you flash the RPM file that comes with every JB Rom? I haven't had any issues with battery wake time, I have seen my battery go even farther with the update im on Synergy build 90. Only issue I have is GPS and im too busy to fully troubleshoot it

Yup, flashed the leaked radios along with the RPM. Followed the OP directions to the dot.
I might try Jellywiz. Give it another shot.

yea i went back to ics aswell...battery on touchwiz jelly is half of what i get on ics. the main thing is the lag that sets in after a day or two of using 4.1. i suspect it will be fixed soon when the official update is dropped.
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MrCapcom said:
Did you flash the RPM file that comes with every JB Rom? I haven't had any issues with battery wake time, I have seen my battery go even farther with the update im on Synergy build 90. Only issue I have is GPS and im too busy to fully troubleshoot it
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gps fix from play store will dial your gps in!

droidstyle said:
yea i went back to ics aswell...battery on touchwiz jelly is half of what i get on ics. the main thing is the lag that sets in after a day or two of using 4.1. i suspect it will be fixed soon when the official update is dropped.
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gps fix from play store will dial your gps in!
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JB is SUBSTANTIALLY better than ICS. You can instantly notice a speed difference when you switch from ICS to JB. Did you do a full wipe when installing??

z06mike said:
JB is SUBSTANTIALLY better than ICS. You can instantly notice a speed difference when you switch from ICS to JB. Did you do a full wipe when installing??
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For me I did....Like I said, I followed the instructions from the OP.

z06mike said:
JB is SUBSTANTIALLY better than ICS. You can instantly notice a speed difference when you switch from ICS to JB. Did you do a full wipe when installing??
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Nope I dirty flashed then went around bashing the rom just like all the noobs do.
Cmon bro really?
Of course I did a full wipe...you realize I preach this stuff to new users daily? I have a guide in the dev section that preaches the correct methods to flashing. you really think I would make a post like my previous without covering my bases? JellyBean is not substantially better... The bottom line is battery life is far worse on jellybean. the touch screen is less accurate and sometimes takes multiple touches to respond. Like I said im sure these couple minor issues will be corrected in the official release.

droidstyle said:
Nope I dirty flashed then went around bashing the rom just like all the noobs do.
Cmon bro really?
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LOL, I didn't even pay attention to who made the post. My bad! :silly:
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I had some problems before with the media wakelock issue, but not with this new leak. The fix was to disable the media scanner, reboot, charge all the way up to 100% and then enable the scanner.

z06mike said:
LOL, I didn't even pay attention to who made the post. My bad! :silly:
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I had some problems before with the media wakelock issue, but not with this new leak. The fix was to disable the media scanner, reboot, charge all the way up to 100% and then enable the scanner.
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Haha I figured lol. Yea I disabled media scanner and all that, battery life is tolerable but nothing like what I was getting on beans ICS. My main gripe with Jellybean is how less responsive and accurate the touch screen is. Its also this way on AOSP. Lets say you open the browser and log on to xda. If you try and tap the little arrow that jumps to the last post, it will take 3-4 tries. On ICS the touchscreen accuracy is pinpoint. I browse the web alot thru the browser, so thats a big issue for me. Everything else including the media is not a big deal...I guess I could of been a little more clear on that in my previous post.

droidstyle said:
yea i went back to ics aswell...battery on touchwiz jelly is half of what i get on ics. the main thing is the lag that sets in after a day or two of using 4.1. i suspect it will be fixed soon when the official update is dropped.
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gps fix from play store will dial your gps in!
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link me pls i swear none of them actually work

droidstyle said:
Nope I dirty flashed then went around bashing the rom just like all the noobs do.
Cmon bro really?
Of course I did a full wipe...you realize I preach this stuff to new users daily? I have a guide in the dev section that preaches the correct methods to flashing. you really think I would make a post like my previous without covering my bases? JellyBean is not substantially better... The bottom line is battery life is far worse on jellybean. the touch screen is less accurate and sometimes takes multiple touches to respond. Like I said im sure these couple minor issues will be corrected in the official release.
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Have you tried the ROM that Alex posted? It is just the stock deoxed version with nothing extra added, but is working great for me. I have yet to see the first issue with this ROM. Battery is about the same as ICS but the signal its noticeably better. I now have service in places that I was having trouble with before. Touch screen is very responsive with no lag and its very accurate and registers the moment I touch the screen.
Hopefully, they will release the final build soon so that everyone can get some JB love!
Edit: I have been running this ROM since the day it was released. The battery was pretty bad for the 1st day. Other than that, all was/is good.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium

I'm not seeing the issues you reported. Battery life on the S3 is great as a whole, although I do carry and extra battery (Qcell - I actually use two and never use the OEM battery). I've noticed absolutely no change in battery life to speak of. I did a full wipe from JellyBomb to Jellywiz Rls 11, dirty flashed 12, no issues.
Everything is buttery smooth for me. No lag or lack of sensitivity. My only complaint is the notification bug on the lockscreen. Every time I received a text, the lock screen would show the tutorial again. That's easily fixed by freezing some system apps.
I don't think I'll ever run another ICS rom again. JB will only get better.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Nutzzer said:
Just wanted to give my experience of flashing to the JB 4.1.1 CleanRom 4.0. I was on stock, everything running fine, batterly life is great, but got the flashing itch and was waiting on JB. Saw the preliminary post on the forums and everything looked ok for the leaked 4.1.1 and decided to flash it. My impression was it was ok, nothing special and whats worst, my battery life became horrible. Some sort of bug about media wakelock etc...
I stayed on it for 2 days and decided to flash back to my nandroid backup.(thank god I did it)
So for now, think Imma stay put on flashing until things settles a bit.
BTW, yes I did flash the latest radios on the leaked 4.1.1. I'm back on the HE radios now.
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I'm curious did you go back to stock ICS or stock JB(ie. the JB leak that has been minimally tampered with Jellywiz11 or this version here ). I have found that both of these, essentially only modified by rooting, are superior to any of the heavily custimized roms out there.
Of the heavily modded roms I've tried Jellywiz12, CleanRom 4.0 and SynergyROM. Of the 3, I would argue that CleanRom 4.0 is the least impresseive in terms of stability and performance. IMO SynergyROM is currently the leader in the clubhouse, though Jellywiz12 isn't too far behind.

Its strange how experiences can vary so greatly from device to device. In honesty Ive been running Clean ROM 4.0 for days and have noticed no increased battery drain, lack of touch screen precision, data connection problems, GPS problems, or lag of any kind. My phone is the fastest its ever been.
For me its been the best ROM Ive ever run.

It is weird how experiences differ from device to device. I flashed the jelly bean leak from Incubus (rl 11) and I have had no issues. Battery life seems normal with the display taking up most of the usage which is normal. GPS works great...everything works great...no issues. I just installed the leaked rom and did not flash any new or different radios. I'm still on HE

microdot said:
It is weird how experiences differ from device to device. I flashed the jelly bean leak from Incubus (rl 11) and I have had no issues. Battery life seems normal with the display taking up most of the usage which is normal. GPS works great...everything works great...no issues. I just installed the leaked rom and did not flash any new or different radios. I'm still on HE
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It's very common with this phone (and most Android phones in general). Some people have issues with media wakelock, gps, battery life, some don't. Consider yourself lucky

ECrispy said:
It's very common with this phone (and most Android phones in general). Some people have issues with media wakelock, gps, battery life, some don't. Consider yourself lucky
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somebody that finally understands android...thank you! couldnt agree more with your post!!!
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MrCapcom said:
link me pls i swear none of them actually work
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...oogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=gps+fix+app
make sure to open the app and select start fixing...it might take 10min so be patient.
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HHF2 said:
Have you tried the ROM that Alex posted? It is just the stock deoxed version with nothing extra added, but is working great for me. I have yet to see the first issue with this ROM. Battery is about the same as ICS but the signal its noticeably better. I now have service in places that I was having trouble with before. Touch screen is very responsive with no lag and its very accurate and registers the moment I touch the screen.
Hopefully, they will release the final build soon so that everyone can get some JB love!
Edit: I have been running this ROM since the day it was released. The battery was pretty bad for the 1st day. Other than that, all was/is good.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
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if your talking about ule cleanrom then yes its the second rom i tried after jellywiz...i even reformatted internal sd and flashed his rom. lag starts after a day or 2 with no reboot. when i say bad battery life im talking about 15hrs with 2.5-3hrs screen on. on ics i get 24-30hrs with 4.5+hrs screen on. jellybean is not terrible in anyway...but i do think its been way over hyped.

droidstyle said:
somebody that finally understands android...thank you! couldnt agree more with your post!!!
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...oogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=gps+fix+app
make sure to open the app and select start fixing...it might take 10min so be patient.
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if your talking about ule cleanrom then yes its the second rom i tried after jellywiz...i even reformatted internal sd and flashed his rom. lag starts after a day or 2 with no reboot. when i say bad battery life im talking about 15hrs with 2.5-3hrs screen on. on ics i get 24-30hrs with 4.5+hrs screen on. jellybean is not terrible in anyway...but i do think its been way over hyped.
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No, not Clean-ROM, there is a thread by Alex C. that is basically the stock image with root, etc. Try flashing it and I also flash Kinda Crap mods and all its good. You, as you know, have to de-bloat.
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HHF2 said:
No, not Clean-ROM, there is a thread by Alex C. that is basically the stock image with root, etc. Try flashing it and I also flash Kinda Crap mods and all its good. You, as you know, have to de-bloat.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
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ok ill check out...thx

I posted a list of stuff I froze in cleanrom 4.0 in the clean rom thread. After freezing that stuff I have no media drain or lag. Battery is similar to ICS but I have only had this setup for two days so it's too early to give a definite result yet.
Edit: two things for people to try who have battery issues
1. Disable Picasa sync. This is done under your Google account.
2. Disable these programs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33723996#post33723996
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[Q] Is the Motorola Photon Q worth buying?

I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?

You can see my opinion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51600010&postcount=65

EpicSaga said:
I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?
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Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.

EpicSaga said:
I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates.
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KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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slimbrady said:
I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android.
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
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slimbrady said:
Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.
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Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?

EpicSaga said:
Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?
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Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)

AndyYan said:
KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
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yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me

slimbrady said:
yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me
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I tried both links, but they didn't take me to any videos. I'm not on my phones browser. Can you post them to view on a PC? Thanks

idimitro said:
Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)
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Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology. It made his hotspot active. I tested it by signing into his Photon Q's wifi network from from my phone and it worked. I only used it for about 5 minutes then uninstalled the app because he was afraid that Sprint would charge him to use the hotspot. I later called Sprint to check and they said that the hotspot was not active. I wonder if they could catch it and charge him if it was used more frequently.

EpicSaga said:
Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology.
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If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11

AndyYan said:
If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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Correct, if you are running a custom ROM they don't seem to notice.
I tether via USB and wifi frequently and Sprint has never said anything. I do not have a tethering plan.

I know this thread is old... but I feel its still relevant.
This phone IS WORTH BUYING, especially if you are a die hard QWERTY person like myself. It appears to be the last man standing, riding off into the sunset.
The phone is basically a GS3 processor with a keyboard which is still a great phone. It functions great for work, custom roms, minor gaming, etc.
Since you can pick up a used one from Ebay in good condition for $90 it is becoming a great value as well.
The aftermarket community is still very active since they appear to have a soft spot for a true workhorse slider phone.
Until the "budget slider phones" have specs that meet or exceed the GS3 then this phone is still the best slider money can buy.
In the meantime if you care about new slider phones with max stats as a flagship device then you need to make your voice heard on facebook posts, blog posts, etc from all the mojor carriers like LG, Moto, and Samsung. I personally refuse to buy a phone without a slider and I let them know at every chance I get.
What ever happened to "Droid DOES"? Droid DOES NOT have a keyboard.
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Also you can do one click root and unlock programs, motochopper and motopocalypse. they are very easy. All you have to do is get fastboot onto your computer. there are some shell programs that include fastboot without downloading the entire android SDK

Yes, it's quite simple:
If you're into qwerty sliders, Photon Q is the top Android device ever manufactured in this category.
No matter that it's more than 1.5 year old now, no other/better high-end sliders have been produced since that time.
This device offers official bootloader unlock, so it's as open as Android gets.
The software support for its MSM8960 SoC is still under active development by the SoC manufacturer Qualcomm (published by CAF), so it can be perceived as a modern device even now.
The weakest spot of this device in my eyes is its 1785 mAh battery. But it easily survives one day of my active usage, so I'm fine with it. Just don't forget to put it on charger when you go to sleep .

To root or not to root

I have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on many of my phones.
I don't know why but for some reason I am bit hesitant on rooting my G3.
I see now there is a quick and easy script to root even the Lollipop 5.01 OTA 850 so I am tempted to do this.
My question is if I don't want to load a custom ROM will the debloating and removal of carrier IQ make a noticeable difference to performance or just give a warm cuddly feeling that these are now gone?
I know there is tweakbox but it appears that besides some nice customizing that can be done there is not much on he performance side of things?
I am finding 5.01 a little laggy and it would be nice to get the phone running smoothly.

I don't even know why you asked.... Always root.
2SHAYNEZ
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Also in wrong section...lol
2SHAYNEZ

I asked because I wanted to know the answer.
Why always root?

samsat said:
I asked because I wanted to know the answer.
Why always root?
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You asked in wrong section... This is the general section .. We have a Q&A section for stuff like this.. For me I can not have a phone without root. Without root you have nothing but a normal bloated lag fest of ugliness... If you k ow anything about the capabilities possible with root then you would understand. Please next time you ask a question can you please put it in correct section. Please and thank you.
2SHAYNEZ

samsat said:
I have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on many of my phones.
I don't know why but for some reason I am bit hesitant on rooting my G3.
I see now there is a quick and easy script to root even the Lollipop 5.01 OTA 850 so I am tempted to do this.
My question is if I don't want to load a custom ROM will the debloating and removal of carrier IQ make a noticeable difference to performance or just give a warm cuddly feeling that these are now gone?
I know there is tweakbox but it appears that besides some nice customizing that can be done there is not much on he performance side of things?
I am finding 5.01 a little laggy and it would be nice to get the phone running smoothly.
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If your simply looking to remove bloatware you will only be freeing up memory on your device as now in android you can simply disable most bloatware. If that's all you really wanted to do then I guess you shouldn't root. The reason stock 5.01 feels laggy is more than likely due to lgs launcher I prefer an aosp rom on all my phones currently using cyanogenmod offers great battery life while being pretty stable.

samsat said:
I asked because I wanted to know the answer.
Why always root?
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The thing I appreciate most about rooting, and is the reason I will always root my device, is the ability to save a complete nandroid backup of my phone. I just feel comfortable having a complete image backup of my phone should I have to wipe it, lose it, or just have to replace it for any reason. There are other reasons too, like being able to back up individual files with Titanium Backup (multiple revisions in case an app update doesn't work right), remove bloatware, switch apps from system to user apps for better management, and customizing some features.
I really only run Greenify, ES File Explorer, and Titanium Backup root apps, but having the other abilities makes it appealing.

samsat said:
I have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on many of my phones.
I don't know why but for some reason I am bit hesitant on rooting my G3.
I see now there is a quick and easy script to root even the Lollipop 5.01 OTA 850 so I am tempted to do this.
My question is if I don't want to load a custom ROM will the debloating and removal of carrier IQ make a noticeable difference to performance or just give a warm cuddly feeling that these are now gone?
I know there is tweakbox but it appears that besides some nice customizing that can be done there is not much on he performance side of things?
I am finding 5.01 a little laggy and it would be nice to get the phone running smoothly.
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I was in your exact same situation a few days ago. The problem with me was that LG was just SO AWEFUL at making a skin, and they really sort of ruined some of the great aspects of the phone. I currently have CM12 on my G3, and it is great. Very little lag, customization through the rough, and basically everything as expected. To do this I had to downgrade to 4.4.4 from 5.0.0, and then to CM12, but before that I rooted 5.0. Rooting made a few good performance strides, but realistically I think your best choice is a custom ROM. Especially for this phone.

Thanks for the replies.
I am having a really bad run with the D850. The original one I bought died on me and was replaced with a refurb by AT&T. Since then there has been one issue after the next. My latest replacement has everything working OK except that bluetooth is staying awake after a drive in the car and flattening the battery. AT&T claim that this is a known problem with certain D850's after the 5.01 OTA update and are saying that it's LG's problem to fix.
I'm reluctant to start fiddling with rooting and ROM loading until I'm sure I have a phone with everything working the way it's supposed to.

samsat said:
Thanks for the replies.
I am having a really bad run with the D850. The original one I bought died on me and was replaced with a refurb by AT&T. Since then there has been one issue after the next. My latest replacement has everything working OK except that bluetooth is staying awake after a drive in the car and flattening the battery. AT&T claim that this is a known problem with certain D850's after the 5.01 OTA update and are saying that it's LG's problem to fix.
I'm reluctant to start fiddling with rooting and ROM loading until I'm sure I have a phone with everything working the way it's supposed to.
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Sorry you have those problems. The G3 has been flawless for me and even after being out for a year there aren't any devices I would rather have.
A root, install TWRP and a clean install of one of the stock based 20f Roms for this device might fix the Bluetooth problem. I use Bluetooth in my car and headset every day and my battery is excellent, better than on KitKat. I have been running the ROM from autoprime.
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Thanks for the replies.

Anyone move from Nexus?

I had always wanted to use a nexus device since I had finally retired my Galaxy Nexus some time ago. I was tickled pink when I learned that I'd be able to use the Nexus 6 on Big Red.
I am fairly happy with the phone but its size is cumbersome (I do not wish to debate this its too big for me) I struggle doing every day things like the gym etc.
I am scarred to jump ship over here with lack of ROMs but I saw that root was just obtained and I used the phone briefly at Verizon today and it seemed incredibly snappy with all the sh.it they still had on there.
Just want to start this thread to help me brainstorm
Thanks for all that reply.

I too have the nexus and it is one of my favorite devices I have ever owned. I checked this thread out once I seen this device was rooted 2 days ago to see there isnt much going on here yet but hopefully it picks up. I love the nexus but sometimes the size gets to me as well (gym, etc...)
The idea of getting this device is still floating around.

I'm in the same boat as you guys only I don't workout.....
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Well I found someone local that's willing to part with their s6 for 475 so I believe I'll pull the trigger and keep my nexus. I really liked the feel of the phone at the store.

[email protected] said:
Well I found someone local that's willing to part with their s6 for 475 so I believe I'll pull the trigger and keep my nexus. I really liked the feel of the phone at the store.
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That's not a bad price. What I am thinking about doing myself is to make best buy price match the full retail cost of the s6 which in verizon is 599. i have best buy gift cards that i havent used which will bring the price to 299 for me. I will not part ways with my nexus either.

I had a nexus 6 for a little while and man was that a huge phone and I also workout at the gym and what a pain in the ass I got a email from verizon to early upgrade edge to the s6 and I pulled the trigger perfect size and performs well I love this phone way more then the nexus 6 I love the samsung music player as well and some features.
P.S The phone is rooted and flashfire works for a recovery and roms are being tested and built as I type this im thinking by the weekend we will see some rom action.

I've had this phone for a few hours and it feels a little bit lighter than I thought it would but I have to say that I'm impressed. It is obviously much easier for me to use one handed and with root and disabling/ freezing all of the boat on here it's really really snappy. It feels great in hand.
I will keep the Nexus as a backup but the S6 will most certainly become my daily driver .
I do hope some ROMs come soon!

thanks for the info. I have been reading reviews all day on this phone and seeing how much touchwiz i can take off besides switching to nova launcher. Question for you....were you able to adjust to a 5.1 screen?
I most likely pick up the phone tomorrow or by the weekend the latest.
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jparasita said:
I had a nexus 6 for a little while and man was that a huge phone and I also workout at the gym and what a pain in the ass I got a email from verizon to early upgrade edge to the s6 and I pulled the trigger perfect size and performs well I love this phone way more then the nexus 6 I love the samsung music player as well and some features.
P.S The phone is rooted and flashfire works for a recovery and roms are being tested and built as I type this im thinking by the weekend we will see some rom action.
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Thanks for the info. I was under the impression there wouldnt be roms without the bootloader unlocked. I am hoping there will be some aosp based roms. I prefer stock android.

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thanks for the info. I have been reading reviews all day on this phone and seeing how much touchwiz i can take off besides switching to nova launcher. Question for you....were you able to adjust to a 5.1 screen?
I most likely pick up the phone tomorrow or by the weekend the latest.
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Thanks for the info. I was under the impression there wouldnt be roms without the bootloader unlocked. I am hoping there will be some aosp based roms. I prefer stock android.
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While there could be Roms, they will ONLY be touchwiz Roms unless boot loader gets unlocked.
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drocny87 said:
thanks for the info. I have been reading reviews all day on this phone and seeing how much touchwiz i can take off besides switching to nova launcher. Question for you....were you able to adjust to a 5.1 screen?
I most likely pick up the phone tomorrow or by the weekend the latest.
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Thanks for the info. I was under the impression there wouldnt be roms without the bootloader unlocked. I am hoping there will be some aosp based roms. I prefer stock android.
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I prefer stock android as well but honestly the TouchWiz on here isn't too bad. I still don't prefer this over AOSP but it's much more tolerable than the TouchWiz of old.

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I prefer stock android as well but honestly the TouchWiz on here isn't too bad. I still don't prefer this over AOSP but it's much more tolerable than the TouchWiz of old.
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i read in the theme section that someone made an aosp theme for touchwiz and is waiting to hear approval for it to be in the play store. once that gets released the phone could pretty much look like stock along with nova launcher and a different icon pack.

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I prefer stock android as well but honestly the TouchWiz on here isn't too bad. I still don't prefer this over AOSP but it's much more tolerable than the TouchWiz of old.
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I was wondering how things are going with the s6. since you've had it for some time are you missing the nexus at all?
What is your set up like on the rooted s6?
Thanks

I too moved from the Nexus 6 to the S6. I moved for primarily one reason.. I loved the Nexus but it was just to big and cumbersome for me.. Obviously there is less Dev work for this phone, but once I found a good ROM with my nexus I rarely switched anyway. The camera on the S6 is faster and I would give it the edge, but not by much. Its the size of the S6 I love.. everyday use is SOO much easier for me, and that is what won out for me in the end.. I still miss the N6 sometimes and now with the M Dev preview out I miss being able to flash that and meas with the latest and greatest. I actually don't mind the colors of touchwiz besides, I use Nova Prime and the identical setup on all my devices. If I could have kept both that would have been great but that wasn't an option for me.

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I too moved from the Nexus 6 to the S6. I moved for primarily one reason.. I loved the Nexus but it was just to big and cumbersome for me.. Obviously there is less Dev work for this phone, but once I found a good ROM with my nexus I rarely switched anyway. The camera on the S6 is faster and I would give it the edge, but not by much. Its the size of the S6 I love.. everyday use is SOO much easier for me, and that is what won out for me in the end.. I still miss the N6 sometimes and now with the M Dev preview out I miss being able to flash that and meas with the latest and greatest. I actually don't mind the colors of touchwiz besides, I use Nova Prime and the identical setup on all my devices. If I could have kept both that would have been great but that wasn't an option for me.
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thanks for the info. i just had a birthday last week and received more gift cards to best buy that i am willing to use to get the s6. i still have the nexus and have yet to flash the m preview ( i just feel its a pain to always set the phone back up)
What rom are you running?

I am running clean ROM.. Its essentially stock with some debloat. Which is what did on my own but I like the idea of flashing it and starting without the bloat to begin with.

There is a rom that will support the vzw s6 over in the s6 thread called AxisM. Looks like there are many tweaks and mods. Ive heard great things about cleanrom as well.

Root vs non-root

Hey XDA, I'm facing a bit of an issue....
I want to root my S6 because right now as it stands, the S6's volume quality is pretty average and unsatisfying. Also I want to install a debloated ROM (I understand debloating doesn't give back unused space) since the S6's bloat seems to be really slowing it down.
But on the other hand I'd like to keep the benefits that Samsung offers to users that haven't voided their Warranty (i.e. free battery replacement, OTA updates, software fixes,Samsung Pay - not in Australia yet - etc.).
I've rooted all my Android devices in the past; I rooted my Galaxy Note & S4 and never needed Samsung repair services besides that one time I nulled my IMEI on the S4....
So should I root my Galaxy S6?
NOTE: I've had the device for almost a week now.

The s6 is pretty good without root. I am hoping an exploit will be found like pingpong root until that happen I'll stick to stock and just use a browser with adblocker

I agree with "godutch " opinion. Same here I used to root all my previous Galaxies, however the s6 does a good job without root especially for the fact that you can uninstall most of the added apps and disable most others (Package disabler pro). Also with the latest 5.1.1 updates you got a better battery management.

But you can't enjoy root app and xposed pal
I've 7 months of warranty remaining but I've rooted my S6.

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I agree with "godutch " opinion. Same here I used to root all my previous Galaxies, however the s6 does a good job without root especially for the fact that you can uninstall most of the added apps and disable most others (Package disabler pro). Also with the latest 5.1.1 updates you got a better battery management.
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Unless you need to use a specific root app, S6 doesn't need to be rooted like previous galaxies S models did.
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+1 for no root needed
Fully agree with the opinions above. I've never run Sammy roms before, always custom roms and rooted. The S6 however has enough available tweaks to remove annoying items like theme's, apps etc even though one or two will remain. Keeping ota updates and hdr camera does it for me.
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nf999 said:
+1 for no root needed
Fully agree with the opinions above. I've never run Sammy roms before, always custom roms and rooted. The S6 however has enough available tweaks to remove annoying items like theme's, apps etc even though one or two will remain. Keeping ota updates and hdr camera does it for me.
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One doesn't lose the HDR Camara function by rooting. I'm rooted and mine works.

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One doesn't lose the HDR Camara function by rooting. I'm rooted and mine works.
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Agreed. I used to run aosp / cyanogen roms, then you loose hdr. I mainly used aosp/cm because I don't like the sammy theme (on top of the bloatware). So a trimmed down sammy rom didn't do it for me. Sammy fixed this with their theme engine. So for the first time ever I'm happy with a stock sammy rom with material dark added and lots of stuff disabled.
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This is a really really useful and essential thread. I have my phone for 10 days and I'm not sure if I must root it or not. Mind that I've been using Chinese phones for years and of course they were all rooted. But I was too tired of searching for the best ROM so I think I'll stay stock until an exceptional ROM appears. I'd like to try stock OTA Marshmallow too