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Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
Sianspheric said:
Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Some people prefer different launchers or ROMs or to have access to certain functions (e.g. full backup) that require root. I've had my N5 for a month and haven't felt the need for it, so I'm still stock, locked, unrooted.
Xposed for me.
Most of the mods from Custom ROMs with the OTA updates from Google
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Xposed framework, Adaway, Lmt launcher, AppOps, AutomateIt Pro... Basicly everything to take control over your device.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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I wouldn't call them minor tweaks at all. There is an extremely wide variety of things that require your phone to be rooted. Often times an app will have limited functionality without root.
Please note that rooting your phone has nothing to do with using a custom rom. (You can in fact have a custom rom that is not rooted) Your problems with your prior phone were not in any way as a result of rooting the phone. If you had problems with the rom (sometimes custom roms have broken components) that has nothing to do with having root access.
At this point, I'd be willing to bet the most common usage of the phone at this point (amongst users of this site) are those who are rooted, but still using the stock rom. More and more users are migrating to the custom roms, but this is because rom development takes a bit of time with major releases.
AdAway is the main reason for me - I HATE adverts with a passion!
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Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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what you consider "minor tweaks", might be a big deal for someone else. Tastes differ.
i root because of 1 main reason, i paid for the device and i believe i should be able to have full control over it.
Another thing is, whatever i do with my phone, i always know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it, so the odds of screwing something up are very little. In case i do need to claim warranty, i know how to set everything back.
Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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Ehm...why did you buy a nexus? Actually i don't even know what you are doing on xda. No offense but... Sound more like an iPhone kind a guy...
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It's up to you whether to root or not. Whatever problems you had with your previous device, it wasn't due to rooting persay, but rather what you did with root access. Rooting doesn't change anything, it just gives you administrative access to the operating system. Running un-rooted is analogous to accessing your desktop PC through a guest account. Rooting your Android device gives you full access like you have on your desktop as as an administrator.
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
bblzd said:
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
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Maybe someday he'll want to tether.
AT LEAST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
Fastboot OEM Unlock
That easy, it'll erase EVERYTHING. So if you do it now you won't lose much. Do it later when you want to root (like my mother and myself) you'll have to unlock and lose everything.
If you ever need you return it just lock it again it's easy. And you won't lose ANYTHING for relocking it.
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Two words....
Franco kernel
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Titanium back up because I'm too lazy to reinstall all of my apps on my previous device.
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Not much reason to if your main use is as a "daily driver".
Mine is rooted mainly due to needing to use it for development work related to my job, but ad blocking and several xposed modules would require root anyways. That and I just can't help but mess with stuff like CPU frequency/voltage settings, etc.
Ben36 said:
Two words....
Franco kernel
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I second this.
I was previously on Galaxy S2 rooted. I'd tested some custom roms like chamaleon, cm, but at last, what i realized that I needed wasn't a lot of new features i only wanted a good battery performance and a fc and random reboots free phone.
So I returned to stock roms with the more stock-like rooted kernel with Xposed and some additions. At last I got a good battery performance to keep the phone full day without charging.
Now that my N5 is with me for about 6 or 7 weeks I don't need rooting, modding ... nothing. The performance for my daily use is about 30 hours between charges with almost 3 hours with screen on.
That is all I need!
And for backups (i've payed for titanium backup app for my S2) now I use ADB from command line and it's enought for me
Also, the Nexus in this conditions hasn't hanged yet.
It spent more than 350 hours until I decided to change to Dart and I had to restart the phone. this is much better than my old S2 that needed two or three weekly reboots even with stock rom.
So, i'm very happy with my non-rooted N5 but if I need to root it in the near future it will be not a problem to me doing it.
I use it for Titanium Backup myself, whose backups I periodically have uploaded to Box.com. Obviously it's there for when I want to change phone and want to restore app data, especially for game saves, but you also never know if your phone is going to malfunction and you have to wipe or get lost/stolen. I think it's pretty useful to have an app that automatically takes care of backing up your data for you.
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http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
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Usually a flagship worth an unlocked boot loader is full of development and such, but this Note 5 seems to have very little activity for such device.
Why is that?
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Well, for me, I'm not seeing much reason to run any custom ROMs and I use Samsung Pay often. Also, there's no AOSP development because AOSP doesn't play well with Exynos.
PDXMatt said:
Well, for me, I'm not seeing much reason to run any custom ROMs and I use Samsung Pay often. Also, there's no AOSP development because AOSP doesn't play well with Exynos.
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This. It's the fact that it's an Exynos device. We've got plenty of TouchWiz based ROMs, which are totally fine for me, but the general attitude I see outside the Samsung forums is AOSP or GTFO.
I just got my Note 5 this past weekend. I upgrade from Note 4.
Yes I notice not much activities here at all.
Devs are waiting for MM to drop
Also we can flash all of the International Roms and Dr.Ketan's audio fix, so no need to port them.
Jammol said:
Also we can flash all of the International Roms and Dr.Ketan's audio fix, so no need to port them.
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I was actually wondering that, I didn't find anything saying it was possible but was hoping it was since that is what I did with my Note 4. any INT rom is possible? and how are they running?
DiGi91 said:
I was actually wondering that, I didn't find anything saying it was possible but was hoping it was since that is what I did with my Note 4. any INT rom is possible? and how are they running?
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Any international Rom is possible. I have literally flashed all of them and they all run just fine for me.
I have a N920T so hopefully that's also the variant you have?
Flash the kernel for your variant: Arter or Skyhigh or even the Stock Rootable Kernel by Jovy.
Flash Rom and any mods they have.
Flash Audio fix by Dr.Ketan: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2YDky4L5v-4c0x1Z3hZQ3UteFk
That's it!
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Usually a flagship worth an unlocked boot loader is full of development and such, but this Note 5 seems to have very little activity for such device.
Why is that?
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well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
chong67 said:
I just got my Note 5 this past weekend. I upgrade from Note 4.
Yes I notice not much activities here at all.
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Downgraded to lol
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Cleva1 said:
Downgraded to lol
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Or nah
calvin35 said:
well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
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Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
Dmkarkutt said:
Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
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I also want to know more about this system-wide ad blocking that doesn't require root.
I rooted my Note5 as soon as I got it, not knowing it would permanently disable my ability to use Samsung Pay. (Yep, I should have researched it, but didn't. Mea culpa.)
But the main reason I root is for AdAway -- if I had the same results without rooting, I'd have at least considered not rooting. Samsung Pay sounds pretty sweet. :\
Jammol said:
Any international Rom is possible. I have literally flashed all of them and they all run just fine for me.
I have a N920T so hopefully that's also the variant you have?
Flash the kernel for your variant: Arter or Skyhigh or even the Stock Rootable Kernel by Jovy.
Flash Rom and any mods they have.
Flash Audio fix by Dr.Ketan: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2YDky4L5v-4c0x1Z3hZQ3UteFk
That's it!
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Sweet! Just like the Note 4.. I'll have to check it out then. I do remember some hiccups with the Note 4 running INT ROMs so I hope I won't run into any of that. Probably going to try out Dr.Ketan.
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Dmkarkutt said:
Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
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I don't know anything about boosting the sound volume because I haven't looked or really felt the need. For the ad blocking I use this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895
If you just want ads in the browser blocked it's free. It works really well for me and even though it will show as using a lot of battery that is only due to the way the app works and handles data.
calvin35 said:
I don't know anything about boosting the sound volume because I haven't looked or really felt the need. For the ad blocking I use this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895
If you just want ads in the browser blocked it's free. It works really well for me and even though it will show as using a lot of battery that is only due to the way the app works and handles data.
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Thank u very much for the info
For system-wide ad blocking (I am not rooted) I use Adblock Plus. https://adblockplus.org/android-install
Go to the link at the bottom that says "Download Adblock Plus for Android"
Now what you have to do is make sure that Adblock Plus is never "optimized" and you don't ever kill it because it's running a localhost proxy (if you do, you lose internet until you start the app again.) You go into your APN settings and create a new APN that looks exactly like the one you already have, except that you use a proxy, localhost, on port 2020. Whenever you connect to Wifi, you use a proxy, localhost, 2020. It's not the best solution because it isn't invisible (it's always in your notifications otherwise Android can kill it to save memory) and you have to do the APN/WiFi changes as I just specified, but it's far less intrusive than ads all over the place.
calvin35 said:
well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
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Actually, I think one of the reasons there are not as many roms this time around is Samsung also had limited release of the Note 5 - it was originally internationally released in ASIA but not in Europe. I also think many of the major devs who normally are seen on the Flagship devices - didn't come along with the NOTE 5 because of BATTERY, No SD CARD, XYNOS and cost. Those four things kept many of the developers away (IMHO)
its a shame because it is a fabulous device despite those things. I will say that the Devs who did decide to join the Note 5 have done incredible work - there are some great roms out there. Just not as much variety. I also believe AOSP will eventually be done for the Note 5. There are several other examples of XyNOS phones and tablets getting AOSP - it is just a matter of time (and very hard work on the part of those who are working on it)
I'm not one to complain much but yeah I agree the Note 5 has been disappointing development wise i guess due to exynos. I might get the S7 as it's supposed to have snapdragon back which is supposed to be more developer friendly.
kaseykrehbiel said:
For system-wide ad blocking (I am not rooted) I use Adblock Plus. https://adblockplus.org/android-install
Go to the link at the bottom that says "Download Adblock Plus for Android"
Now what you have to do is make sure that Adblock Plus is never "optimized" and you don't ever kill it because it's running a localhost proxy (if you do, you lose internet until you start the app again.) You go into your APN settings and create a new APN that looks exactly like the one you already have, except that you use a proxy, localhost, on port 2020. Whenever you connect to Wifi, you use a proxy, localhost, 2020. It's not the best solution because it isn't invisible (it's always in your notifications otherwise Android can kill it to save memory) and you have to do the APN/WiFi changes as I just specified, but it's far less intrusive than ads all over the place.
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If you don't use a VPN on your device, Adguard is much easier. It makes a loop VPN and filters all traffic.
https://m.adguard.com/en/welcome.html
As for the topic at hand I'm not getting another Exynos device... I've been really upset by the lack of ROMs and Samsung hasn't exactly been great with updates either.
I just hope that the Snapdragon Kryo cores don't pose a developer issue...
Not sure if I am burned out or just no longer have the desire but I realized I have not flashed a custom ROM since June of this year so I'll be rapidly approaching 6 months and that was for my 5X. This Pixel 2 I have left stock and the Pixel 1 I had, I made it stock back in June after flashed for a few months.
I have a few mods that I use, but for the most part this Pixel 2 is stock unrooted. I think part of it is being able to also do updates without issues. Ever since the Pixel 1, I could never update stock without wiping. Whenever I'd try to flash individual files or remove the -w flag, it would still wipe. Pixel 2 works fine, battery life has been incredible so probably no changes in the near future.
Plus getting root is getting harder. I don't use Android Pay, but I stopped using magisk over the summer. Too much back and forth.
I plan on keeping my Pixel 2 stock, probably as long as Google actively supports it (at least 3 years they say...). The main reason I switched to the Pixel line was Google's frequent updates and the lack of the need to constantly be flashing a different ROM, etc.
I am very happy with Google's software experience. In the past I mostly ran custom ROMs on my Samsung devices to get away from the Samsung bloat/UI. With Motorola it was primarily due to the lack of software support from Lenovorola. So far the Pixel 2 in its stock form is exactly what I have wanted from my previous devices, without modification.
mines stock besides bootloader unlock, magisk, and custom kernel to pass safetynet
love it. fast, responsive, and best battery life in any phone i've ever had
I just got mine and mines stock too. I used custom ROMS because OEMs never updated their ROM. I'm hoping I won't have to flash to a custom ROM for the next 3 years.
Stock but running Dev preview. The ab partitions seem like more trouble than it's worth. Having owned G6 as well as the s8+ on TMobile. I just feel incentive to root is just not there anymore. As much as the AB partitions are a pain I absolutely love how fast updates are. Like holy sht less than 5 minutes and all is up and well.
The only reason why I would root is because of the possibility to change the system fonts !
I really like to have my favourite fonts on the phone !
Otherwise, I'm happy to stay stock !
I have been using "Google phones" since the Nexus S. The Pixel 2 is the first one I have left completely stock.
Android Oreo is fine the way it is for me. Battery life is great, I block ads through my own VPN connection so I really have no reason to unlock it and root it.
I just sideload the monthly updates and everything just works. I am very happy with it.
The stock 8.0 on the 5X has been pretty bad although it's possible if I factory reset it, it may be better, but it has just worked poorly but I have not formatted since June just rolled it up.
8.0 on the Pixel 2 has worked fine without any issues. The updates on time and frequency is probably the biggest appeal for me. There was one LG I had a few years ago that got updates for 12 months. Never changed past Lollipop. Just released with Lollipop then patches for 12 months then that was it. Unacceptable.
I still don't fully understand the A/B partitions after they removed the recovery factory. There's slot A/B, but I'm not sure how to manage them, I just let TWRP flash whatever.....that's part of it too, I can't keep up with the constant changes.
I use stock on all my google phones. I used to root, mainly to block ads, but I'm using dns66 on my Pixel 2 and it seems good enough.
I use to root my Android to access the Magisk or Xposed. But I decided to keep my Pixel 2 as long as possible. Part of the reason is that I am still waiting Google to roll out the hotfix for some minor but annoying bug like bluetooth headset compatibility problem. Another reason is I think I can live with some non-root required customization app like Custom Navigation Bar or Shortcutter now.
Considering that the daily SoT I get with this device is more than what I need:
I might end up opening the bootloader in the future to put a more aggressive performance kernel that kills more battery.
But for now I'll stay stock. Last two Nexus I've owned were rooted to have Pixel Launcher with Now Card left menu.
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I use mine stock with Nova launcher. I have rooted and flashed all my phones in the past but with this one, I don't feel the need to. It's really fast and the battery is great.
My Pixel 1 is unlocked but I ended up running stock towards the end of my use. Updates weren't that hard when I was unlocked, just a lot of steps to follow (download OTA, flash in TWRP, immediately flash TWRP, flash root, flash any mods, reboot).
My Pixel 2 is Verizon so I don't really have a choice about root now. I hope I can live with it.
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I'm running unlocked and rooted only because I find I can typically get better battery life using custom kernels (using flash kernel right now, standby battery drain much improved), as well as for adblocking and viper4android (whenever it gets fixed for enforcing kernels, works on permissive however).
I doubt I will ever want/need to flash a custom rom on this phone though.
I just switched to Pixel 2 from years of HTC phones, which have similar smoothness, but the only way to get super-quick updates with HTC, even the developers' edition, is with custom ROMs. Now that I have the Pixel 2, I'll try to keep it stock for as long as I can.
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PIXEL 2 is good as is. I usually root for increased battery and volume, but this phone is good as is. Also found Xperia keyboard which I love. In fact the pixel 2 acts rooted and experimental even though it is released. Camera comes and goes sometimes quick pictures, other times black screen and fault. Hopefully an update or two will resolve issues.
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Lucio_74 said:
The only reason why I would root is because of the possibility to change the system fonts !
I really like to have my favourite fonts on the phone !
Otherwise, I'm happy to stay stock !
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Mine is stock also but this would be why I root (leaning heavily towards not rooting though).
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The stock set up and kernel on this phone is giving me insane battery life. I haven't had any lag. I'd say the pixel 1 was just as smooth I don't think the pixel 2 is any smoother although the battery is much better but then again I used nougat with pixel 1
foosion said:
I use stock on all my google phones. I used to root, mainly to block ads, but I'm using dns66 on my Pixel 2 and it seems good enough.
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So dns66 is working well on Oreo? Any problems?
Hi just wondering if there's any point to rooting these days?i mean the s8+ pretty much bang on!can rooting offer anything extra?I understand like an iPhone is miles better jailbroken but s8 seems to pretty much to a lot!!any ideas folks
I only rooted because I wanted to remove system app and use Titanium Backup.
But if you don't use or need those 2 apps...not worth rooting.
Matt.
I used to root all of my previous phones, including S2+, S4 and S6. I loved custom roms and additional battery saving tweaks or performance tweaks, overclocking, downclocking etc. The S8+ has a huge battery and a great system, so most of the features that I'd get via rooting on the older phones are already here. Also, if you root you void your warranty, and trust me, you don't know when you'll need it . And let's not forget the amount of times that I've flashed something the wrong way or idk something got corrupted and I had to reflash and lose all my data. Staying stock is the best choice on S8+.
Of course it's worthy. You can improve the camera quality with Zero Camera Mod, get better performance with kernels and get rid of the annoying ads.
IN MY OPINION
No, it's not worth it. There may be some advantages to rooting, but you can do MOST of those things without root. Samsung Internet Browser already blocks ads. There's some nonroot apps that will block and across the phone if you don't mind using a VPN.
You can disable unwanted apps with BK Disabler Pro (I think that's what it's called).
The camera is already great. I can't speak for Zero Camera Mod, but the Pixel camera works great on this phone.
I used to unlock bootloaders on every device I owned. Wouldn't buy one with a locked bootloader. I rooted. I flashed custom ROMs. I used Xposed and customized. Then I stopped customizing everything. Then I stopped flashing custom ROMs. Android finally got the point I was happy with it out of the box. When I got my S8+ I realized Samsung's software wasn't bad at all, and I actually enjoyed it.
Now I just read thread after thread of people bricking and soft bricking their phones after rooting. People having issues going back to stock to take upgrades. Honestly, I just shake my head and chuckle, because it all seems like such a big hassle and headache, that really does nothing more than disable things like Samsung Pay.
So no, to me, it's NOT worth it. I enjoy my S8+ and my Note 8 with no desire to root it. When I want to customize it, I apply a theme. I just use the Samsung themes, but have thought about trying Substratum. There's always Nova Launcher and the Pixel Launcher if you want a different look as well.
That's my opinion, and it's worth about a buck two eighty. Get the phone. Run it stock for a while and see if you REALLY miss root. Then decide.
No, for the 1st time I must say on S8+ on Nougat it is not worth. You can disable all apps you don't need without root, remap bixby button, set permissions to apps, remove ads without VPN (Adhell2) etc.
Oh coarse it's worth it, for many reasons . . . .
. . . . . . . now what were those reasons . . . . . ?
oh yes, it turns the phone into a 'Super' phone.
You didn't know that is where the 'S' comes from in Galaxy 'S' 8, did you?
There isn't much customization to accomplish for rooting/custom recovery at the moment. I, at the moment, have twrp-d G950F and Stock G955U1. Strangely, I found myself using G955U1 more than that rooted G950F. Given that there is only TW based roms atm, fonts-theming can be acquired through substratum or flipfonts, and Adblocking using adhell. I basically rooted my device to test ROMs to maximize battery life but there is only little variation to them that I sincerely think that stock G955-U1 ROM is better than other, though I do adore the new samsung oreo keyboard that can add gifs to almost all apps that I am using, unlike its current nougat counterpart. But again, U1 is pretty clean and slim rom. I tried oreo beta, through that samsung.firmware.science, but there is currently no comparable U1 oreo beta, there is only U roms that will install carrier CSC and its added apps to the phone. It almost made me wanting to root to remove those apps, but given the near release of oreo, i ended up choosing to go back to my stock nougat u1 rom. I heard its possible to flash any stock rom to any s8 family.
Go check out CarHDROM. He has ported a Note 8 ROM for the 8+. Very nice and has built in a number of things you will not find on stock, built-in.
I can agree that initial messing about with rooting, setting up a custom ROM can take a little time, it's hardly more than a stock ROM. Some folks have to re-do things to get it just right, but once done, it can be spectacular. 'Rolling your own' can have it's own 'rewards', as it allows for some creativity beyond the stock ROM, and there are a good number of things you can do with a rooted phone, that you can not with a stock phone.
If you are new to rooting, etc, there is a learning curve that can be tranquilly taken over short hours, to days to weeks. Tranquil. The Samsung Odin software and the how to's are pretty straight forward to follow, and most of the time folks here are available to help, though that is not always 'guaranteed'. Some posts/requests for help sit idle either longer than the OP would like, or just remain static, though that is not an often case.
I ran the same custom ROM on my old iPhones, OnePlus One, G3, and once setup with a nice custom ROM, did not change them out.
CarHDROM is very well established, and version v9 (last Nougat) is very stable and very extended with it's added abilities. Carotix takes a lot of time with the users.
That ROM is now on v10 (Orego beta), and going through it's growing pains.
I have v9. Smooth, trash free, and well thought out.
I think all the versions are available for download/use.
It is worth checking out.
At any rate, either stock or custom, the 8/8+ is a great phone.
In the (motorcycle) biking side of life there is a saying for (legitimate) bike owners: "Ride it like you stole it".
Have fun with your S8.
Hi guys,
I know currently most users (myself included) use stock ROM + debloat for samsung flagships, since stock roms are way better than they were a few years ago, but nevertheless, where are the rom chefs and all the typical custom ROMs and Kernels for S22?
The phone is 5 months old now, is the kernel source available?
Cheers
Phk said:
Hi guys,
I know currently most users (myself included) use stock ROM + debloat for samsung flagships, since stock roms are way better than they were a few years ago, but nevertheless, where are the rom chefs and all the typical custom ROMs and Kernels for S22?
The phone is 5 months old now, is the kernel source available?
Cheers
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Yes the kernel source is aviable. Its sad that development is as good as dead... But wait a bit the s21u has a bit more development but this happened a good year after Release...
No boot unlock yet for Snapdragon U versions...sooo we out of luck
for now there are some stock-based custom ROMs for s22 Ultra Exynos:
- beyondROM
- VN-ROM
- alexega © Project
- Dr.Ketan ROM
Buy a pixel if you want ROMs, basically phones caught up to the point you don't really need to root/flash anymore for performance and customization.
phatmanxxl said:
Buy a pixel if you want ROMs, basically phones caught up to the point you don't really need to root/flash anymore for performance and customization.
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I wouldn't change to a Pixel because i like the hardware build way much on samsung's S-line phones. Camera, weight, screen, etc.. So for Galaxy phones rooting is still necessary if you need something like AFwall or what to really debloat oneui.
However I fully understand your point; a few years ago changing from stock to custom would be a must, and nowadays its almost an hobbie. But indeed there are not extremely optimized roms out there like there used to be.
Phk said:
I wouldn't change to a Pixel because i like the hardware build way much on samsung's S-line phones. Camera, weight, screen, etc.. So for Galaxy phones rooting is still necessary if you need something like AFwall or what to really debloat oneui.
However I fully understand your point; a few years ago changing from stock to custom would be a must, and nowadays its almost an hobbie. But indeed there are not extremely optimized roms out there like there used to be.
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root not needed to debloat a rom anymore, just a simple adb command and done, here you cant find a lot of apps to debloat a rom without root, and others tools
tutibreaker said:
root not needed to debloat a rom anymore, just a simple adb command and done, here you cant find a lot of apps to debloat a rom without root, and others tools
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I know about adb disable\uninstall, but still there are things which need root like adaway, afwall+, magisk modules... Even for tweaking CSC stuff like automatic call recorder, you still need root perms
i just did Debloat and NextDNS for firewall stuff=happy
Phk said:
I wouldn't change to a Pixel because i like the hardware build way much on samsung's S-line phones. Camera, weight, screen, etc.. So for Galaxy phones rooting is still necessary if you need something like AFwall or what to really debloat oneui.
However I fully understand your point; a few years ago changing from stock to custom would be a must, and nowadays its almost an hobbie. But indeed there are not extremely optimized roms out there like there used to be.
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Yea I miss the days when we could root and ROM samsung phones. The Note 2 running stock Android but still had S-pen support was the greatest thing at the time.
Phk said:
I know about adb disable\uninstall, but still there are things which need root like adaway, afwall+, magisk modules... Even for tweaking CSC stuff like automatic call recorder, you still need root perms
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Adguard works pretty well for ad removal, although it does have a yearly subscription for premium (sometimes you can get a one time/lifetime payment), it keeps the annoying ads out of apps and the browser.