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I sat on my Fuze :(

Hi all,
I sat on my Fuze, short and simple. There is now a weird crack on the screen. I am very familiar with what a broken LCD looks like, there is no LCD "liquid" oozing all over the place, and the picture is not distorted in any way. It looks like some kind of lens INSIDE might be broken, and I think it's the digitizer. The cracks stop once they get to the dark grey at&t/HTC border around the screen, even though I hit very close to it, so whatever I cracked is under the top lens/protector.
Also, I read online (albeit at a cell phone repair website) that you can't replace the digitizer without ruining the LCD. Is there any merit to this, or are they just trying to convince people to pay their obscene $149 to replace a $30 part?
So I guess I have two questions:
Did I break the digitizer, the topmost lens, or somehow the LCD glass without damaging the LCD itself?
How hard is this to replace?
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EDIT: I ordered this on April 17th. Fat chance AT&T will do anything about it, right?

That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....

wxy117 said:
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
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If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), all this should take is removing the two small phillips head screws on the back of the screen that show when the phone is slid open. I landed on this thing while it was open, and drove my knee right into the screen, I'm surprised I didn't break anything else.

There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5

wxy117 said:
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
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So we do have to take the whole damn thing apart?
Does anyone have any luck with AT&T replacing things that are clearly accidental damage? With all the horror stories I hear about refurbished phones and the chance that they might send me one, I'd actually rather take my chances at fixing this. I've taken apart a ton of phones and fixed them before, and worked at a cell phone repair shop for a few months. I still have most of my tools lying around, including all the screw drivers I'd need to open this.
I was able to find an HTC service manual that doesn't really explain how to replace the digitizer. It does describe how to get it in two pieces, but I wouldn't know where to go from there.

I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.

wxy117 said:
I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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Found a good complete disassembly guide in Russian, why does the screen have to be the LAST thing to come out? I am now looking to buy an LCD/digitizer combo, but I can only find the one from Brando that is made for regular HTC Touch Pros, and not the Fuze (has a camera cutout instead of the AT&T logo).
If I end up having to replace the LCD I'd much rather break it trying to save $50 than just toss it. Is it really that hard to separate the digitizer from the LCD?
http://translate.google.com/transla...ka/htc-touch-pro/&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=

has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?

wxy117 said:
has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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Well, we'll find out. I ordered both an AT&T Fuze digitizer by itself as well as an LCD with a digitizer attached. I'm just going to go ahead and replace everything with the combination unit and see if I can replace my broken digitizer without breaking my LCD in my free time. If it works, I have a spare or I can sell it

be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....

wxy117 said:
be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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Hopefully I'll get it right, I made sure to order an AT&T Fuze digitizer that made it clear it wasn't for use with Sprint Touch Pros or Touch Pros with front facing camera.
The LCD+digitizer I ordered though may very well show up as any of the above, if they're not already attached I'm going to use the AT&T Fuze digitizer on the new LCD, and try and make a new working combo from my old LCD to resell. I'll make a detailed step by step with photos as well.

Don't forget to read this

They just sent out my new one today.... So anyone that needs a digitizer for the Fuze by Sprint hit me up.... They told me to keep it so now I have an extra digitizer that doesn't work for my phone...

I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!

pisqle said:
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
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Thank you for some rather broken, but very helpful advice. Kinda sucks that I'm really happy since I don't have to worry about removing any adhesive, but now I have to sit here and solder flex cables. I shoulda bought a spare one
Do they ship these parts on pigeons from Hong Kong?

To anyone counting on being able to separate the LCD from the digitizer, DON'T. There is absolutely no way to separate them without destroying either or both. Also, take extreme caution when peeling up the flex cable, it is very easy to tear (I tore mine).
So my net cost, 80 + 50, LCD/Digitizer and Flex Cable = $130 vs. sending it to HTC $150. I advise anyone to just pay them rather than take this thing apart.

from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*

wxy117 said:
from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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Fact of the matter is when people say this is a delicate phone to take apart, they mean it. I worked at a cell phone repair store for a few weeks, and learned how to take apart damn near anything (thank God this was before the iPhone existed). Not only are both flex cables in this phone taped down in 100 different places, making them very easy to tear while removing the tape, the adhesive used between the LCD and digitizer is STRONG. If you really wanted to separate them, you might have some luck with a straight edge and maybe an hour. Good luck, I'll let you all know how this turns out once I have my new flex cable, since I conveniently tore the volume buttons off the original.

I just got my screen today so we're gonna see some time next week how we do on this screen replacement....I'll let you know how it goes....

So far no luck with my digitizer. Has anyone had any luck just changing out the digitizer yet? The guy that was suppose to do mine is backing out because he doesn't want to risk cracking my LCD. I don't blame him thats the reason I didn't do it. sheik124 what are you doing with your damaged fuze? Are you sending it to HTC for repairs?

Cracked glass...need some advice

Hi all, I could use some advice. I was using the tablet the other day, and I dropped it from a height of about 3" onto a hard surface. The glass was scratched and the metal frame got bent. 2 Days later I was using the Tablet and the screen cracked under my thumb. there is now a 3-4" crack and the touch screen does not work anymore.
Luckily, I bought it with my Amex and they have a warranty that will replace or repair the item.
Of course since it is only a month old, I want a new one not a repaired one. Does anyone know if the screen can be replaced (Tablet repaired) I am hoping for a NO, but Amex wants some sort of proof that it is, or is not repairable.
I am not sure if Asus is going to cover it, as it is rooted, but it seems that a 3" drop should not cause this sort of problem..... Corning Glass II and already scratch and cracked. One would think it should be at least somewhat durable and shouldn't break quite that easily.
Any thoughts or idea's would be much appreciated.

pixel-painter said:
Hi all, I could use some advice. I was using the tablet the other day, and I dropped it from a height of about 3" onto a hard surface. The glass was scratched and the metal frame got bent. 2 Days later I was using the Tablet and the screen cracked under my thumb. there is now a 3-4" crack and the touch screen does not work anymore.
Luckily, I bought it with my Amex and they have a warranty that will replace or repair the item.
Of course since it is only a month old, I want a new one not a repaired one. Does anyone know if the screen can be replaced (Tablet repaired) I am hoping for a NO, but Amex wants some sort of proof that it is, or is not repairable.
I am not sure if Asus is going to cover it, as it is rooted, but it seems that a 3" drop should not cause this sort of problem..... Corning Glass II and already scratch and cracked. One would think it should be at least somewhat durable and shouldn't break quite that easily.
Any thoughts or idea's would be much appreciated.
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You just have really bad luck. Normally, a 3" drop should not cause problems.

pixel-painter said:
Hi all, I could use some advice. I was using the tablet the other day, and I dropped it from a height of about 3" onto a hard surface. The glass was scratched and the metal frame got bent. 2 Days later I was using the Tablet and the screen cracked under my thumb. there is now a 3-4" crack and the touch screen does not work anymore.
Luckily, I bought it with my Amex and they have a warranty that will replace or repair the item.
Of course since it is only a month old, I want a new one not a repaired one. Does anyone know if the screen can be replaced (Tablet repaired) I am hoping for a NO, but Amex wants some sort of proof that it is, or is not repairable.
I am not sure if Asus is going to cover it, as it is rooted, but it seems that a 3" drop should not cause this sort of problem..... Corning Glass II and already scratch and cracked. One would think it should be at least somewhat durable and shouldn't break quite that easily.
Any thoughts or idea's would be much appreciated.
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Asus would repair it for a fee. You could probably replace it yourself, but as the TF700 is new and not as popular as the TF201 and TF300 you may have a hard time finding the parts. And, for that matter, a dissasembly guide.
Keion said:
You just have really bad luck. Normally, a 3" drop should not cause problems.
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It all depends on the angle. Gorilla Glass is only strong against direct impact. If it lands on a corner, side, or any other position where the sides of the glass does not land completely flat it'll shatter. Mohs Scale of Hardness at work - the harder/scratch resistant it is, the weaker it is against hard impact. Pretty much why I'd actually rather not have a gorilla glass device if I had a choice.

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i can fix it. i work for a place where all i do is fix tablets, phones and computers. if you want to pay for the part then i could fix it, but thats probably not something you want to do... just thought id offer.

vegandroid said:
i can fix it. i work for a place where all i do is fix tablets, phones and computers. if you want to pay for the part then i could fix it, but thats probably not something you want to do... just thought id offer.
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Thanks for the offer, yup.... I have been thinking about it and my goal is to try and get a new one if possible 1st. Will try to get a replacement from Asus if I can't from amex.. Then worst case scenario, I can have Amex pay to get it fixed.

Screen Broken, Need some help finding the correct replacement

A few weeks ago, an unfortunate accident let to my Asus TF300T's screen being broken. While bad, what's worse is the digitizer broke as well, and it no longer receives touch input. After scouring the internet for a replacement, I have learned that there are a couple versions of the display, and they are incompatible with each other. But the problem is, the flex cable on my tablet does not indicate which version it is.
Attached is a picture of the flex cable. There is no text on the back of it. Is there something I am missing? Could someone point me in the right direction as to which version I need to fix it? Many thanks!

tubbis9001 said:
A few weeks ago, an unfortunate accident let to my Asus TF300T's screen being broken. While bad, what's worse is the digitizer broke as well, and it no longer receives touch input. After scouring the internet for a replacement, I have learned that there are a couple versions of the display, and they are incompatible with each other. But the problem is, the flex cable on my tablet does not indicate which version it is.
Attached is a picture of the flex cable. There is no text on the back of it. Is there something I am missing? Could someone point me in the right direction as to which version I need to fix it? Many thanks!
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Where did you get the information that there are different versions of the touchscreen that are not compatible with the tablet? Whatever the case, it shouldn't matter (GO1 or GO3) since you need either one to work with your TS board, not with each other. Search around to determine if it's just the screen that's bad; look at this THREAD for example. There is a thread somewhere claiming that different firmwares are required for different screens, but that's not to say that any of them is incompatible with your TS board (provided it's still working) since you can flash various firmwares for various screens to the same TS board.

I have read through the linked thread and one member states that the panel with "5158N FPC-1" on the flex cable is indeed the G03 version. It doesn't look like many people carry this version, but I will look around and report my results to this thread in a few weeks time. (or days, if I can find a seller in the US)

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I have read through the linked thread and one member states that the panel with "5158N FPC-1" on the flex cable is indeed the G03 version. It doesn't look like many people carry this version, but I will look around and report my results to this thread in a few weeks time. (or days, if I can find a seller in the US)
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Ebay has quite a few US sellers of this thing for around 70 bucks. If you're not sure, I know a repair technician here who ordered a GO1 screen for a customer who never showed up. It's tested and he'd let it go for 55-60, but the difficulty is in the replacing. It's delicate work (I've done it myself so I know), and the TS board is known to be finicky and can quit altogether if not handled properly. If you're not confident of your skills, you should leave it to someone who knows what they're doing.

The biggest problem while trying to replace the screen is trying to separate the Digitizer from the LCD (if the LCD still works) There is some really sticky tape that bonds the two together and if you aren't super careful, you will break the LCD (like I did LOL). I ended up having to get a new Digitizer AND LCD and got them at different times. When it was all said and done, I blew close to $150 since I bought them both separately. If you can find both LCD and digitizer as a set for less than $100 I would buy that rather than just getting the Digitizer for $30 less and risk breaking the LCD in the process.
That's just my 2 cents.

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The biggest problem while trying to replace the screen is trying to separate the Digitizer from the LCD (if the LCD still works) There is some really sticky tape that bonds the two together and if you aren't super careful, you will break the LCD (like I did LOL). I ended up having to get a new Digitizer AND LCD and got them at different times. When it was all said and done, I blew close to $150 since I bought them both separately. If you can find both LCD and digitizer as a set for less than $100 I would buy that rather than just getting the Digitizer for $30 less and risk breaking the LCD in the process.
That's just my 2 cents.
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I have already separated the LCD and digitizer successfully. (well, almost successfully. the knife I used to separate the tape slipped and I gashed my finger pretty bad. But the important part came out completely fine...not even a fingerprint!
You say you can get the digitizer for 30 bucks? The lowest Ive seen them on Ebay for is about 70 dollars.

tubbis9001 said:
I have already separated the LCD and digitizer successfully. (well, almost successfully. the knife I used to separate the tape slipped and I gashed my finger pretty bad. But the important part came out completely fine...not even a fingerprint!
You say you can get the digitizer for 30 bucks? The lowest Ive seen them on Ebay for is about 70 dollars.
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I'm not sure why you cared to separate the two since both were mentioned broken in your first post. The only thing you need is the plastic bezel glued to the digitizer.

graphdarnell said:
I'm not sure why you cared to separate the two since both were mentioned broken in your first post. The only thing you need is the plastic bezel glued to the digitizer.
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I saved the LCD display, since it works perfectly fine. The digitizer/glass on the other hand, which was already broken, was hopelessly shattered in the process. That is the part that needs replacing.

The plastic bezel/screen is the same as the digitizer. It's all one piece. Nah cheapest digitizer is around 70 but some places i think sold both for $100 ish.
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hardslog said:
The plastic bezel/screen is the same as the digitizer. It's all one piece. Nah cheapest digitizer is around 70 but some places i think sold both for $100 ish.
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Despite what hardslog says, I must caution you again that the bezel and digitizer are two separate parts bonded together by a double-sided strip. A new digitizer doesn't come with the bezel. If you throw it away now, the back cover will not cover the whole tab at the front later on. Now if hardslog can vouch for an lcd/Touchscreen combo for around 100, you should ask him for referrals. He'd be doing a great service to other members as well since quite a few have looked hard for that item and couldn't find it anywhere to buy.

We might be a little confused with each other on the terminology being used. If by bezel you mean the very outer part of the screen (the 1/3cm or so black border thing around it, as in NOT the black part that says "ASUS" on it) then yes that is a separate piece. I thought people were referring to the digitizer and the clear screen (as in the part that you touch) as being the same thing. Does that make sense?
Sorry it seems prices have gone up even more since I replaced my screen (4-5 months ago). Don't listen to me when I said $100.
There was this place - dunno how reliable they are. But they are out of stock anyway https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/ASUS/EEE~PAD~TRANSFORMER~TF300-B1-BL~TABLET/ Still $130 when it was in stock

[Q] Can I Join New Digiter glass and Seperate New LCD

Okay so I was duped by the low price when trying to fix my wife's One X and purchased the digitiser only.. I didn't even attempt to install it but I did pull her phone apart and destroyed her LCD and Touch screen before even separating the assembly as my tool slipped between the digitiser and LCD resulting in cracked/broken LCD
To be honest its a scam sellers are selling the glass only without clear warning of the dificulties ahead that LCD is sooooo fragile! and too much heat would just break the LCD..... and possibly de solder parts....
Now it still powers up and is visible via USB
Should I splash out the extra $30 and get the LCD only part from eBay and attach it to the touchscreen I already have?
or should I just buy the whole assembled unit for $90(Australian)
also Which LCD would I want? I have the Aussie Tegra version...(So I'm guessing the non AT&T version..)
Any Advice and experience would be appreciated Cheers!

To be honest I'd just buy the LCD + digitizer. The chances of being able to successfully join the two parts together yourself are fairly slim.
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What timaaaaa said. I've yet to hear of anyone doing it successfully, and if there is someone they're definitely the exception. You know first hand how difficult it is to handle those parts, do you really want to risk it? Just put the digitizer you bought back on eBay (if your conscience allows you).

Glass Replacement

Over the weekend I dropped my mix 2s and have cracked the bottom of my screen glass.
I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and fixed this. I have purchased a new glass on eBay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/263620735738?ViewItem=&item=263620735738
I am planning to take it to a professional repair shop.
Is it likely that they will be able to separate the glass from the LCD and glue on this replacement? Is there any risk of this going wrong and my screen from acting weird afterwards?

No, it is in fact very unlikely they'll be able to separate them.
It will be more expensive but you'll have to get an lcd display and glass assembly all together.

SolarisSixth said:
No, it is in fact very unlikely they'll be able to separate them.
It will be more expensive but you'll have to get an lcd display and glass assembly all together.
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According to this: Ali Express
LCD Only: If the image under the glass is broken and the touch panel is NOT then you only need an LCD.
Touch Panel aka Digitizer: If the top touch panel or aka glass top is cracked or broken but the image under it is fine then you only need the Touch Panel.
Complete Screen with Touch Panel and LCD: If the top touch panel is broken and the LCD image is either black liquid or cracked you need a complete screen.
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According to that; If the glass is cracked, I only need the Digitizer replaced.
I am happy to get the whole thing, its just I have already ordered a Digitizer and thought this was all I needed. I could be wrong.

Any recommendation on the type of screen I should purchase for best results?
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andyphone said:
Over the weekend I dropped my mix 2s and have cracked the bottom of my screen glass.
I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and fixed this. I have purchased a new glass on eBay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/263620735738?ViewItem=&item=263620735738
I am planning to take it to a professional repair shop.
Is it likely that they will be able to separate the glass from the LCD and glue on this replacement? Is there any risk of this going wrong and my screen from acting weird afterwards?
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Hi there
I got the same Problem. Screen and Touch and everything is OK. Did you manage to replace the broken glas? Was the Ebay thing okei or did u buy something different?
Cheers

andyphone said:
Over the weekend I dropped my mix 2s and have cracked the bottom of my screen glass.
I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and fixed this. I have purchased a new glass on eBay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/263620735738?ViewItem=&item=263620735738
I am planning to take it to a professional repair shop.
Is it likely that they will be able to separate the glass from the LCD and glue on this replacement? Is there any risk of this going wrong and my screen from acting weird afterwards?
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Hi i managed to change my whole lce by myself. Its quite hard only for heating the glue and opening everything. There is no guide on internet so i just follow mi mix 2 guide. I bought from aliexpress, 60 euro, claimed to be original, checked its JDI from cti app, and very good quality, color also very good, nothing weird, glass also oleophobic.

Any update on this? I'm in the same situation, front glass is cracked but phone otherwise fine. Replacement is only $10, but can just the glass even be replaced?

I just bought the whole LCD/Digitizer for $60, not even going to attempt to separate just the glass

emanuel.caesar said:
Hi i managed to change my whole lce by myself. Its quite hard only for heating the glue and opening everything. There is no guide on internet so i just follow mi mix 2 guide. I bought from aliexpress, 60 euro, claimed to be original, checked its JDI from cti app, and very good quality, color also very good, nothing weird, glass also oleophobic.
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Hey emanuel.caesar,
thanks for your helpful post. A few further questions from my side:
which lcd did you choose exactly? Are you still satisfied with the quality? And the last question Does the video guide for the Mi Mix 2 work for the Mi Mix 2s as well or are many things different? Thank you in advance for a short reply.

Hello,
Is not a good idea to try to just replace de LCD screen. I did this operation many times in the past and I can confirm that's a long operation (~1h30), there's a lot of risks that you break the digitizer and for a good result, you need LCD glue and a UV machine.
So, I think it's a better idea to replace all the screen: LCD + Digitizer.

Any suggested YouTube videos to replace the glass + LCD + digitizer?
Looking at a used phone with broken glass. It's like $10 for glass or $32 for the whole set and if I recall last time I had glass swapped it was like $60 labor and no guarantee the LCD wouldn't break. I'm pretty technical have repaired plenty of phones Android and iPhone. Anyone have a good link for removing the LCD / digitizer / glass unit? Is this like the Samsung where you need to use a blow dryer to heat the adhesive to get it off? Or like an iPhone where you just take screws out and pry the panel out? Much appreciated