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Hi all,
I sat on my Fuze, short and simple. There is now a weird crack on the screen. I am very familiar with what a broken LCD looks like, there is no LCD "liquid" oozing all over the place, and the picture is not distorted in any way. It looks like some kind of lens INSIDE might be broken, and I think it's the digitizer. The cracks stop once they get to the dark grey at&t/HTC border around the screen, even though I hit very close to it, so whatever I cracked is under the top lens/protector.
Also, I read online (albeit at a cell phone repair website) that you can't replace the digitizer without ruining the LCD. Is there any merit to this, or are they just trying to convince people to pay their obscene $149 to replace a $30 part?
So I guess I have two questions:
Did I break the digitizer, the topmost lens, or somehow the LCD glass without damaging the LCD itself?
How hard is this to replace?
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EDIT: I ordered this on April 17th. Fat chance AT&T will do anything about it, right?
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
wxy117 said:
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
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If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), all this should take is removing the two small phillips head screws on the back of the screen that show when the phone is slid open. I landed on this thing while it was open, and drove my knee right into the screen, I'm surprised I didn't break anything else.
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
wxy117 said:
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
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So we do have to take the whole damn thing apart?
Does anyone have any luck with AT&T replacing things that are clearly accidental damage? With all the horror stories I hear about refurbished phones and the chance that they might send me one, I'd actually rather take my chances at fixing this. I've taken apart a ton of phones and fixed them before, and worked at a cell phone repair shop for a few months. I still have most of my tools lying around, including all the screw drivers I'd need to open this.
I was able to find an HTC service manual that doesn't really explain how to replace the digitizer. It does describe how to get it in two pieces, but I wouldn't know where to go from there.
I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
wxy117 said:
I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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Found a good complete disassembly guide in Russian, why does the screen have to be the LAST thing to come out? I am now looking to buy an LCD/digitizer combo, but I can only find the one from Brando that is made for regular HTC Touch Pros, and not the Fuze (has a camera cutout instead of the AT&T logo).
If I end up having to replace the LCD I'd much rather break it trying to save $50 than just toss it. Is it really that hard to separate the digitizer from the LCD?
http://translate.google.com/transla...ka/htc-touch-pro/&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=
has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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Well, we'll find out. I ordered both an AT&T Fuze digitizer by itself as well as an LCD with a digitizer attached. I'm just going to go ahead and replace everything with the combination unit and see if I can replace my broken digitizer without breaking my LCD in my free time. If it works, I have a spare or I can sell it
be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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Hopefully I'll get it right, I made sure to order an AT&T Fuze digitizer that made it clear it wasn't for use with Sprint Touch Pros or Touch Pros with front facing camera.
The LCD+digitizer I ordered though may very well show up as any of the above, if they're not already attached I'm going to use the AT&T Fuze digitizer on the new LCD, and try and make a new working combo from my old LCD to resell. I'll make a detailed step by step with photos as well.
Don't forget to read this
They just sent out my new one today.... So anyone that needs a digitizer for the Fuze by Sprint hit me up.... They told me to keep it so now I have an extra digitizer that doesn't work for my phone...
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
pisqle said:
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
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Thank you for some rather broken, but very helpful advice. Kinda sucks that I'm really happy since I don't have to worry about removing any adhesive, but now I have to sit here and solder flex cables. I shoulda bought a spare one
Do they ship these parts on pigeons from Hong Kong?
To anyone counting on being able to separate the LCD from the digitizer, DON'T. There is absolutely no way to separate them without destroying either or both. Also, take extreme caution when peeling up the flex cable, it is very easy to tear (I tore mine).
So my net cost, 80 + 50, LCD/Digitizer and Flex Cable = $130 vs. sending it to HTC $150. I advise anyone to just pay them rather than take this thing apart.
from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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Fact of the matter is when people say this is a delicate phone to take apart, they mean it. I worked at a cell phone repair store for a few weeks, and learned how to take apart damn near anything (thank God this was before the iPhone existed). Not only are both flex cables in this phone taped down in 100 different places, making them very easy to tear while removing the tape, the adhesive used between the LCD and digitizer is STRONG. If you really wanted to separate them, you might have some luck with a straight edge and maybe an hour. Good luck, I'll let you all know how this turns out once I have my new flex cable, since I conveniently tore the volume buttons off the original.
I just got my screen today so we're gonna see some time next week how we do on this screen replacement....I'll let you know how it goes....
So far no luck with my digitizer. Has anyone had any luck just changing out the digitizer yet? The guy that was suppose to do mine is backing out because he doesn't want to risk cracking my LCD. I don't blame him thats the reason I didn't do it. sheik124 what are you doing with your damaged fuze? Are you sending it to HTC for repairs?
First, the story:
I dropped my phone and broke the screen. The screen is always black now, but from the sounds the phone makes, it sounds like it is still working.
This place has instructions for replacing the touch screen digitizer and the LCD; they also sell these replacement parts (for $40 and $35 respectively), (I had to obfuscate the URL to post this, so replace the underscores with periods):
www_repairsuniverse_com/htc-mytouch-4g-slide-screen-repair-take-apart_html
I'm not quite ready to move on to a new phone yet, so I am planning on trying to fix this myself. I guess my other option is to see how much it would cost for TMobile to fix it for me, but I am guessing that they want too much. My phone is rooted (s-off) and running a Bulletproof 1.1 image.
Now, my questions:
Has anyone here successfully been through this process? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I have not yet attempted to disassemble the device to futher assess the damage, so I do not know exactly what is broken, although the glass is certainly broken, is this what is referred to as the "touch screen digitizer"?
LCD is the actual display. Digitizer is the glass that sits on top of the screen (the part you touch)
If your LCD is broken, the picture will be messed up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592219
Replaced the glass (digitizer) without issue. returned the phone to t-mo since prior to that it was having an issue with the hardware camera button being stuck always on. So long as you're patient, technical, and have a steady hand, do it, it's fine, just follow-the step-by-steps, and keep your screws and parts seperated at each step
I ordered a new LCD and digitizer, and will probably have some time to do the repair mid-late next week.
I went with the Sony version of the LCD based upon discussion in the following thread (in the 3rd post iynnoji says they tried a Hitachi LCD but it did not work):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526595
It would be nice to know if the Hitachi LCD is incompatible, or if iynnoji had a bad component or some other issue.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback gtmaster and eclipsed. I'll update this thread after I attempt the repair. I have to admit, I'm sort of glad I broke my phone, since learning to fix new things is such an enjoyable process. Hopefully I'm still happy about this process after I finish the repair and attempt to power the device on .
Yay! The repair was successful! Not having a cell phone really made me aware of how useful one is. Next time I upgrade I'll keep my old device around as a backup.
So some notes:
The screen assembly was really difficult to remove, due to the large amount of adhesive. When I took it off, the LCD split in two, with half attached to the screen assy and the other attached to the adhesive. Luckly I was intending on replacing the LCD anyway. Anyone else performing a screen or LCD repair should beware that this is a difficult step, and will take time and care.
The Sony LCD (P/N 60H00523) works fine with our device. As I previously mentioned, it would be nice to know if the Hitachi LCD (P/N 60H00512) works, as its $15 cheaper.
I wasn't careful enough when placing the LCD on the digitizer, and managed to a few dust particles sandwiched in there. Not a big deal, but if I were to do it again I'd check my work before assembling the rest of the phone.
I used the adhesive paper sold at repairs universe around the edges of the digitizer and put the phone in the oven @ 170 F for 5 minutes after assembly, then waited 10 minutes before using it. Everything seems solid.
Again, thanks all for the help.
Freerobots said:
Yay! The repair was successful! Not having a cell phone really made me aware of how useful one is. Next time I upgrade I'll keep my old device around as a backup.
So some notes:
The screen assembly was really difficult to remove, due to the large amount of adhesive. When I took it off, the LCD split in two, with half attached to the screen assy and the other attached to the adhesive. Luckly I was intending on replacing the LCD anyway. Anyone else performing a screen or LCD repair should beware that this is a difficult step, and will take time and care.
The Sony LCD (P/N 60H00523) works fine with our device. As I previously mentioned, it would be nice to know if the Hitachi LCD (P/N 60H00512) works, as its $15 cheaper.
I wasn't careful enough when placing the LCD on the digitizer, and managed to a few dust particles sandwiched in there. Not a big deal, but if I were to do it again I'd check my work before assembling the rest of the phone.
I used the adhesive paper sold at repairs universe around the edges of the digitizer and put the phone in the oven @ 170 F for 5 minutes after assembly, then waited 10 minutes before using it. Everything seems solid.
Again, thanks all for the help.
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LCD splitting sounds messy I replaced my digitizer and there is loads of dust under it now. Gonna get it professionally done.
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After having no reply from HTC with regards to getting the dust removed under the screen of my HTC Sensation Z710e, I got quotes from 2 different websites.
First was http://www.gsrepairs.co.uk/ who quoted as estimate of £20
They sent me this reply:
"Hi Matthew,
Thanks for getting in touch. You would be looking at around £20 to tidy up the inside of the phone. We would have to completely disassemble the phone as the flex ribbon which is connect to the mainboard sits behind the lcd. We would also have to replace the adhesive which holds the front screen down."
Second Was http://www.buzz-box.co.uk/ who quoted me £88.35.
They sent me this reply:
" Hi matthew moss
HTC Sensation Screen Repair
Your screen including digitiser and lcd are replaced with this repair as they are factory bonded. We just need the phone including battery so we can test it before returning it to you. No sim,memory card or accessories need to be included with your device. We recommend you back up your device for data before sending it, though we do not usually need to wipe data with this repair.
Repair Information
Screen £ 81.65
Return Courier £ 6.70
Total Quote £ 88.35"
Obviously, there is a huge difference in quotes, but first company say they can basically just clean up the dust, but second company saying the digitizer and lcd need to be replaced!!
The phone is in absolutely mint condition, the only problem is the dust, so basically what i'm trying to figure out is....do I really need to pay to have digitizer and lcd replaced, just for dust? and maybe the £20 quote to clean the dust from the first quote is dodgy?
Or, is the second quote just taking the pi$$ by saying they will have to replace lcd and digitizer?
Can't afford to go changing my phone and neither do I want to, but with summer coming fast, it's a nightmare trying to view the screen in the bright sunlight and there's NOOO way I'm going to attempt the repair myself.
Has anyone ever heard of or dealt with http://www.gsrepairs.co.uk?
Are they a reputable company and know what they are doing etc?
£20 to clean the dust out underneath the screen sound too good to be true?
Or, can anyone recommend a good reputable company in the UK that can clean the dust out from underneath my screen?
Any info and help you can give me will be hugely appreciated.
thanks
Matt.
Hi,
I think it's indeed neccesay to replace at least the digitizer. The dust is trapped between the digitizer and the display, and removing the digitizer from the screen will/could:
- break the seal between the digitizer and the screen. this is glue I believe.
- stain the digitizer, a new one comes with protective sealing to prevent it from getting dirty during repair.
unless they damage/stain the lcd screen, I think it's bull they have to replace that one aswell.
a new digitizer comes at a price of € 14 with prying tools. I'd say ask gsrepairs for specific cleaning method. Will they remove the digitizer in order to clean the dust (I believe there's no other way)? will they replace it and if not how will they guarentee the display will come back nice and tidy to you?
if it's typical sensation dust I would not even send it in if it were for free. I've got a bad experience with repairing the one time I did it and the litle bit of dust in my case isn't bothering me. But if it is as severe as you say we're talking a whole different situation. And what I find harmless, could be an absolute pain to others.
Since I'm dutch I can't tell you anything about the repair centre you mentioned. But finding reviews shouldn't be that hard
Like my title says, I was attempting to fix the broke glass on my s3 when all of a sudden the digitizer cracks. I am kind of pissed since I just had the razor in there, waiting for the LOCA to move on its own. Anyway, I digress.
Now I need to get a full LCD + digitizer to repair it. I have come across two different options. One is to get an LCD + digitizer assembly off of Amazon/ebay and glue it into my current phone, but the Amazon reviews have a couple saying that they don't fit the Verizon S3 too well, somehow. This is the one that was recommended in the youtube video I watched.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ASIN=B009OZWQRM&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwkwpcca-20
The other option is a full LCD + digitizer + back frame. This thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Samsung-...n-Assembly-Frame-White-/350859402808#shpCntId
They both cost the same so I have two questions.
1) Which part do you all recommend?
2) What would "fixing" my phone entail if I ordered the full LCD digitizer back frame assembly? I am assuming it's simple enough to transfer parts over, but I don't want to buy the part if it ends up being harder to transfer the chips over than it is to glue a new screen in place.
Also, the final quality is a concern. I don't buy new phones often. I bought this year-old S3 with a broken screen with the plan of fixing the screen and having it for years. I still hope to do a good enough repair to have this phone for years to come.
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Like my title says, I was attempting to fix the broke glass on my s3 when all of a sudden the digitizer cracks. I am kind of pissed since I just had the razor in there, waiting for the LOCA to move on its own. Anyway, I digress.
Now I need to get a full LCD + digitizer to repair it. I have come across two different options. One is to get an LCD + digitizer assembly off of Amazon/ebay and glue it into my current phone, but the Amazon reviews have a couple saying that they don't fit the Verizon S3 too well, somehow. This is the one that was recommended in the youtube video I watched.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ASIN=B009OZWQRM&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwkwpcca-20
The other option is a full LCD + digitizer + back frame. This thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Samsung-...n-Assembly-Frame-White-/350859402808#shpCntId
They both cost the same so I have two questions.
1) Which part do you all recommend?
2) What would "fixing" my phone entail if I ordered the full LCD digitizer back frame assembly? I am assuming it's simple enough to transfer parts over, but I don't want to buy the part if it ends up being harder to transfer the chips over than it is to glue a new screen in place.
Also, the final quality is a concern. I don't buy new phones often. I bought this year-old S3 with a broken screen with the plan of fixing the screen and having it for years. I still hope to do a good enough repair to have this phone for years to come.
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They both will fixed your problem. I do not recommend glueing, it's not easy to do, messy and you may end up replace the whole thing at the end. It's your choice to pick one.
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Like my title says, I was attempting to fix the broke glass on my s3 when all of a sudden the digitizer cracks. I am kind of pissed since I just had the razor in there, waiting for the LOCA to move on its own. Anyway, I digress.
Now I need to get a full LCD + digitizer to repair it. I have come across two different options. One is to get an LCD + digitizer assembly off of Amazon/ebay and glue it into my current phone, but the Amazon reviews have a couple saying that they don't fit the Verizon S3 too well, somehow. This is the one that was recommended in the youtube video I watched.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ASIN=B009OZWQRM&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwkwpcca-20
The other option is a full LCD + digitizer + back frame. This thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Samsung-...n-Assembly-Frame-White-/350859402808#shpCntId
They both cost the same so I have two questions.
1) Which part do you all recommend?
2) What would "fixing" my phone entail if I ordered the full LCD digitizer back frame assembly? I am assuming it's simple enough to transfer parts over, but I don't want to buy the part if it ends up being harder to transfer the chips over than it is to glue a new screen in place.
Also, the final quality is a concern. I don't buy new phones often. I bought this year-old S3 with a broken screen with the plan of fixing the screen and having it for years. I still hope to do a good enough repair to have this phone for years to come.
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I recommend getting the one with the frame, it will make the job so much easier. Here is a youtube video on what it will take to get the old frame off, and put a new screen on it.
Thanks so much, both of you. I did go with the one that included the frame. I might as well go for the basically brand new phone, right? That video did help make my decision, too.
Well, I knew the time would come, I shouldn't be so picky on cases. I had my phone in my lap, hopped out of the car and heard my phone drop from my lap. Totally forgot it was there. One corner impact and it cracked my screen, which is disappointing because I drop my iPhone all the time and nothing happens to it. But, at least it's not the whole screen that's shattered, might even be a waste to replace it. The screen is responsive still.
With that said, anyone know where I can get a replacement screen or should I have a "professional" do it?
I'm looking at this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Google-N...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item233373ec1c
That way there's no damage to the frame.
well yeah i want to know that too and how much it cost me to replace the screen
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Ebay link looks OK. I guess you can replace screen yourself, if you have "straight" hands. Nexus 5 Teardown should helps you.
BTW, more Parts for Nexus 5.
Well, if you are going to try this one yourself, it's one of the "easier" ones. As long as you get the LCD assembly and frame that is already put together. On eBay, there are some vendors selling the the assembly + frame for $135. No really crazy tools are needed. Shouldn't be anything too catastrophic happen since you are changing the whole front of the phone. If you were trying to separate the top glass, I'd definitely advise against if you aren't a pro. If you absolutely don't feel comfortable with doing it and can be without the phone for a few days, then feel free to PM me, and we can discuss other options.
If you have steady hands, enough patience and some previous experience in disassembling phones (youtube could help a lot), it shouldn't turn out to be quite a big challenge.
I would advise though in some attention taking off the rear cover (it's not difficult, but if you apply too much pressure you might end up bending or breaking it). Same goes with the battery, which is attached to the back of the screen with some adhesive. Use a plastic tool for this, and try to peel it off with a strong and steady hand. Once you do that, it's only a few screws.
I think LG would fix it for $150 so $135 to fix it yourself eh. Unless you want the accomplishment, but I have never ventured into replacing a cracked screen.
Just got off the phone with LG, they said they can't price over the phone, they have to have a tech see the phone and they'll call with a quote. So, 2 weeks without a phone just to get a quote and maybe repaired if I want to spend that kind of money.
I am 80% positive that I have viewed a few post of them charging $150 for screen replacement. You aught to check in the thread "who dropped it" the answer might be there. Its in general. Hard to find with xda app.
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Well, turns out once the screen is cracked it cracks easier now. As of now, the phone starts clicking on random things when the screen is touched.
I'm debating to either buy a new one and sell this one, should come out to the same price as buying a replacement screen once the cracked phone is sold.
What would you guys suggest? I can't send it in to LG as I need my phone and replacement screen + front housing is $200 to replace myself or $220 to replace by a professional.
I'm looking at this: http://www.etradesupply.com/lg-nexus-5-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly-with-frame.html
It seems to come with majority of everything and I just need to transfer over the antenna wires, motherboard and battery.
or
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/lg-g...exus 5 Screen with Frame&utm_campaign=LE55ONS
I'll have to transfer over everything, which they have a tutorial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPuCmfhzgbg - which makes me nervous seeing this.
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Well, turns out once the screen is cracked it cracks easier now. As of now, the phone starts clicking on random things when the screen is touched.
I'm debating to either buy a new one and sell this one, should come out to the same price as buying a replacement screen once the cracked phone is sold.
What would you guys suggest? I can't send it in to LG as I need my phone and replacement screen + front housing is $200 to replace myself or $220 to replace by a professional.
Can't you try the below? Quite easy to dis-assemble the phone, steady hands and proper screw driver + torx driver, use a hairdryer to warm up the glue connecting the battery + LCD to the digitizer
Sorry can't post external links to XDA due to post counter search Ebay for "Frame-LCD-Display-Touch-Digitizer-Screen-for-LG-Google-Nexus-5-D820-D821" results are between $108-$120 ...
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