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I know this has been discussed before, but I am looking for new ideas. My problem is that due to $!#&@ TMO (I doubt this is HTC 's doing) I cannot change my voicemail from "My Carrier" to Google Voice!!
I have tried everything. In fact supposedly everything should work correctly right now. When I look at Settings>>Call>>Forwarding, all of the forwarding numbers (I.e., when busy, or no answer, etc) all forward to my GV number...and this is what T-Mobile tells me too (as if throwing their hands up in the air in exasperation). BUT, my voicemail number still says "My Carrier"
I keep racking my brain trying to figure out why this doesn't take when I enter *004*xxxxxxxxxx#. It attempts to change it, but then less than a second later I get an error. The only thing I can think of is that the TMO voicemail number still shows on my SIM card.
I don't have a SIM card reader other than this phone. So I was wondering if anyone knows how I could change this info via ADB somehow.
My only other option is to go through hours of phone tech support with TMO since regular customer service gave up. I would like to avoid wasting a half day. I would rather spend the time trying to figure it out myself instead of telling a TMO tech-support person "I can't take the God-damn battery out of the phone...do you know anything about your own branded devices??!!"
Thanks...
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syntropic said:
I know this has been discussed before, but I am looking for new ideas. My problem is that due to $!#&@ TMO (I doubt this is HTC 's doing) I cannot change my voicemail from "My Carrier" to Google Voice!!
I have tried everything. In fact supposedly everything should work correctly right now. When I look at Settings>>Call>>Forwarding, all of the forwarding numbers (I.e., when busy, or no answer, etc) all forward to my GV number...and this is what T-Mobile tells me too (as if throwing their hands up in the air in exasperation). BUT, my voicemail number still says "My Carrier"
I keep racking my brain trying to figure out why this doesn't take when I enter *004*xxxxxxxxxx#. It attempts to change it, but then less than a second later I get an error. The only thing I can think of is that the TMO voicemail number still shows on my SIM card.
I don't have a SIM card reader other than this phone. So I was wondering if anyone knows how I could change this info via ADB somehow.
My only other option is to go through hours of phone tech support with TMO since regular customer service gave up. I would like to avoid wasting a half day. I would rather spend the time trying to figure it out myself instead of telling a TMO tech-support person "I can't take the God-damn battery out of the phone...do you know anything about your own branded devices??!!"
Thanks...
Sent from my HTC One-S (rooted), stock ROM
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Service related issues like no data or the inability to make calls is their specialty. Software issues like freezing, crashing and touchscreen issues they can assist, but when it comes to an OS that doesn't allow you to change the Voicemail number natively, thats not something that t-mobile can override let alone be at fault.
It's crazy how many people believe that the carrier is at fault for not being able to integrate a third party service or feature into their phones. Remember T-mobile is a carrier not a manufacturer. They didn't develop the OS or manufacture the device. [I just want to help put this in perspective.]
The only way this is going to be resolved is if Google develops an app that will override the default vm number. Aside from this, the only thing left is rooting your phone and finding a hack to change the number.
Im not trying to troll your post or anything. Just trying to lead you in the right direction.
It doesn't really matter if your phone says "My Carrier" or "Google Voice"...if you have GV installed, it should still handle your voicemail. You can call T-Mobile and have your conditional forwarding number manually changed on their end to your GV number but the phone will still say "My Carrier". There is a trick though...if you select Google Voice, wait a sec, then hit Home before you get the Failed message, when you go back in the call settings it will say Google Voice...Mine does!
hybridmonk said:
Service related issues like no data or the inability to make calls is their specialty. Software issues like freezing, crashing and touchscreen issues they can assist, but when it comes to an OS that doesn't allow you to change the Voicemail number natively, thats not something that t-mobile can override let alone be at fault.
It's crazy how many people believe that the carrier is at fault for not being able to integrate a third party service or feature into their phones. Remember T-mobile is a carrier not a manufacturer. They didn't develop the OS or manufacture the device. [I just want to help put this in perspective.]
The only way this is going to be resolved is if Google develops an app that will override the default vm number. Aside from this, the only thing left is rooting your phone and finding a hack to change the number.
Im not trying to troll your post or anything. Just trying to lead you in the right direction.
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I don't think you are trolling, I just don't think you have your eyes wide open. Ask yourself... If the galaxy nexus from Sprint (also a carrier btw) can switch to Google Voice without a problem... Or even my TMO Androids in the past could switch from "My Carrier" (<<--hint hint, there is a test on this!) to Google Voice, but now suddenly on this new flagship TMO Android, I can't seem to switch it over... we have to ask ourselves the obvious question: if this could be done before, but now it can no longer be done, who stands to benefit from preventing Google Voice from being used instead of "My Carrier"? Ummmm.... Could it be MY CARRIER????
And please, I am not aware of the motivation which allowed your common sense to get off 3 bus stops ago but although TMO is not a manufacturer, do you think that HTC, out of some altruistic code of capitalistic benevolence, decided to generously install onto the One-S: Access My T-Mobile, T-Mobile Mall, MobileLife Contacts, Visual Voicemail, Bonus Apps, CarrierIQ, T-Mobile TV, Zinio, and Where's my Water? Each with their own HTC-designed garish magenta icons (where appropriate)? Or that HTC chose to make a many of these system apps and not regular uninstallable apps so that you needed to resort to ICS's "disable" feature (thank you Google), or, in the extreme case use Titanium Backup's 'Bloatware Melter' to rid your system of them?
Sure Google wrote the OS, and HTC was a little selfish in creating a mandatory integration of Sense into all Android phones (without having to root and flash another ROM which is not in everyone's ken), but I don't think Sense 4 is all that bad, so I commend them from removing their heavy hand at least compared to v. 3....
But without a doubt, the most greed-centric of this triad, T-Mobile, (while not a manufacturer, certainly has a few employees who can code I am sure), unilaterally directs, controls, or otherwise ordains that either HTC or another third party to integrate the above described software which has the sole purpose to create an unremoveable advertisement on your phone. This software therefore restricts, limits, egregiously impedes and restrains you from removing ~750MB from a phone which they marketed as having almost 30% more internal RAM then reality thereby duping the unenlightened masses from having full functionality of the phone they just spent $600 on.
Yeah.... You are right good sir!! T-Mobile is only a carrier... They would never try to make it difficult for a user to remove a component from the phone that only brings them value...you know such as their voicemail and visual voicemail.
I just must be a conspiracy nut.
P.S. My phone is rooted.
Sent from my HTC One-S (rooted), stock ROM
el_smurfo said:
It doesn't really matter if your phone says "My Carrier" or "Google Voice"...if you have GV installed, it should still handle your voicemail. You can call T-Mobile and have your conditional forwarding number manually changed on their end to your GV number but the phone will still say "My Carrier". There is a trick though...if you select Google Voice, wait a sec, then hit Home before you get the Failed message, when you go back in the call settings it will say Google Voice...Mine does!
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Wow that worked....Incredible.
syntropic said:
I don't think you are trolling, I just don't think you have your eyes wide open. Ask yourself... If the galaxy nexus from Sprint (also a carrier btw) can switch to Google Voice without a problem... Or even my TMO Androids in the past could switch from "My Carrier" (<<--hint hint, there is a test on this!) to Google Voice, but now suddenly on this new flagship TMO Android, I can't seem to switch it over... we have to ask ourselves the obvious question: if this could be done before, but now it can no longer be done, who stands to benefit from preventing Google Voice from being used instead of "My Carrier"? Ummmm.... Could it be MY CARRIER????
And please, I am not aware of the motivation which allowed your common sense to get off 3 bus stops ago but although TMO is not a manufacturer, do you think that HTC, out of some altruistic code of capitalistic benevolence, decided to generously install onto the One-S: Access My T-Mobile, T-Mobile Mall, MobileLife Contacts, Visual Voicemail, Bonus Apps, CarrierIQ, T-Mobile TV, Zinio, and Where's my Water? Each with their own HTC-designed garish magenta icons (where appropriate)? Or that HTC chose to make a many of these system apps and not regular uninstallable apps so that you needed to resort to ICS's "disable" feature (thank you Google), or, in the extreme case use Titanium Backup's 'Bloatware Melter' to rid your system of them?
Sure Google wrote the OS, and HTC was a little selfish in creating a mandatory integration of Sense into all Android phones (without having to root and flash another ROM which is not in everyone's ken), but I don't think Sense 4 is all that bad, so I commend them from removing their heavy hand at least compared to v. 3....
But without a doubt, the most greed-centric of this triad, T-Mobile, (while not a manufacturer, certainly has a few employees who can code I am sure), unilaterally directs, controls, or otherwise ordains that either HTC or another third party to integrate the above described software which has the sole purpose to create an unremoveable advertisement on your phone. This software therefore restricts, limits, egregiously impedes and restrains you from removing ~750MB from a phone which they marketed as having almost 30% more internal RAM then reality thereby duping the unenlightened masses from having full functionality of the phone they just spent $600 on.
Yeah.... You are right good sir!! T-Mobile is only a carrier... They would never try to make it difficult for a user to remove a component from the phone that only brings them value...you know such as their voicemail and visual voicemail.
I just must be a conspiracy nut.
P.S. My phone is rooted.
Sent from my HTC One-S (rooted), stock ROM
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Nice rant...not useful, but I hope you feel better...meanwhile the OP has solved his problem..
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Nice rant...not useful, but I hope you feel better...meanwhile the OP has solved his problem..
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Well the rant has its foundations in a valid customer complaint...you just happen to trigger it. I like TMO, as they by and large area more hacker friendly and usually their plan prices + things like Wi-Fi calling raise them far above their competitors. But it is with 100% certainty that they read these boards and know we are above average customers... Who love the hardware but appreciate them just the same. Would it be unreasonable (I am serious... Is this just too honest for a carrier to do?) To have them offer a clean Sense only version for $60 more? I didn't run the math, but it would allow them to (i) expose a practice their customers hate but that all carriers take part in for purposes of revenue generation, (II) give customers the option of getting a "better" phone without these space-stealing, CPU-hogging apps or services and still make the money up on the front end?
I know why they might be disinclined... Because it would draw focus to the fact that--just like IE in Windows NT, they would be sharing on thin ice by forcing users to use it even tolerate these apps. This in turn would expose all carriers to the scrutiny of the public (and maybe even draw official inquiries) on these issues forcing them to probably remove them, however, they would have little justification for raising the price (if they were forced to stop this practice I mean).
They all got into a little hot water over CarrierIQ, and overall, they are pushing it again with these flagrant "value-added" non-removable (and possibly illegal) pieces of software..simply for revenue at the expense of the customer; it's really a bad business practice. If they had any integrity, they would continue to act pro-customer as they have been (comparatively) thus far and try to make the word "carrier" not such an offensive one.. in other words, be different. Stop doing it, and advertise that they have stopped. Tell the truth.
Sent from my HTC One-S (rooted), stock ROM
syntropic said:
Well the rant has its foundations in a valid customer complaint...you just happen to trigger it. I like TMO, as they by and large area more hacker friendly and usually their plan prices + things like Wi-Fi calling raise them far above their competitors. But it is with 100% certainty that they read these boards and know we are above average customers... Who love the hardware but appreciate them just the same. Would it be unreasonable (I am serious... Is this just too honest for a carrier to do?) To have them offer a clean Sense only version for $60 more? I didn't run the math, but it would allow them to (i) expose a practice their customers hate but that all carriers take part in for purposes of revenue generation, (II) give customers the option of getting a "better" phone without these space-stealing, CPU-hogging apps or services and still make the money up on the front end?
I know why they might be disinclined... Because it would draw focus to the fact that--just like IE in Windows NT, they would be sharing on thin ice by forcing users to use it even tolerate these apps. This in turn would expose all carriers to the scrutiny of the public (and maybe even draw official inquiries) on these issues forcing them to probably remove them, however, they would have little justification for raising the price (if they were forced to stop this practice I mean).
They all got into a little hot water over CarrierIQ, and overall, they are pushing it again with these flagrant "value-added" non-removable (and possibly illegal) pieces of software..simply for revenue at the expense of the customer; it's really a bad business practice. If they had any integrity, they would continue to act pro-customer as they have been (comparatively) thus far and try to make the word "carrier" not such an offensive one.. in other words, be different. Stop doing it, and advertise that they have stopped. Tell the truth.
Sent from my HTC One-S (rooted), stock ROM
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Well, the did allow HTC to retain the "disable" on most of the bloat, so all we're really talking about here is Carrier IQ, pushing their own voicemail service and a few other little items...I'd say pretty good compared to the red themed monstrosities I used to get from Verizon.
I just received an OTA update for My Galaxy S4 SGH-I337. My phone seized up and I had to take it into Best Buy in order to get the firmware re-installed so my phone would actually work! That was blissful... So now I am now running Android 4.4.2 KitKat! YAY! But not really.
When I got this phone, it was loaded with Android 4.3 Firmware, and for the first time in my life, I have not been able to Root my phone. I looked through all the methods out there, but none of them worked. Some people claim this one and that one, but for me, I couldn't get it to do a darn thing. Well, no big deal, it's not like I really need to root my phone.
Except that you do. YOU NEED TO ROOT YOUR AT&T PHONES!
I noticed that the OS on this 32g model uses an unprecedented 7g of space!!! That's aside from the apps that come with the phone that I will never use. Leaving me with only 21g of space on my phone, which claims to be a 32g model. Again, this is not a big deal, right? You can throw an SD card in there if you need more space...
FINE
Now comes the issue of the AT&T and Samsung Exclusive Applications that are loaded on to the phone when you get it, and ARE IRREMOVABLE! These apps are here to stay. It doesn't matter if you don't use them, or like them, or want your disc space back, screw you AT&T customer, you HAVE to have these apps.
The sickening part about all of this is the mandatory obligation you are put under when getting your new phone. No one tells you that AT&T is going to shove all of this crap down your throat. And it wouldn't be so bad if these apps were removable... it wouldn't be so bad if you could root your phone an remove them yourself... it wouldn't be so bad if you could a custom firmware on the device you just dropped $700 on... I mean, it is your phone, isn't it?
But Samsung & AT&T have gone so far out of their way locking this device down to a point where it is next to impossible to unlock and do anything with!!! Is it really that big of a problem? Someone always seems to find a way around it eventually, so why do it?
Regardless, It looks like I should have bought the Nexus 5, that way my OS wouldn't take up 7g of my 32g of space, and I wouldn't have a bunch of bloatware filling up my phone. I'd love to hear that someone has found a way to root this new NB1 baseband, and allow for custom firmware installation, because I'd like to take this phone back to AT&T and shove it down their throat.
Shibblet said:
I just received an OTA update for My Galaxy S4 SGH-I337. My phone seized up and I had to take it into Best Buy in order to get the firmware re-installed so my phone would actually work! That was blissful... So now I am now running Android 4.4.2 KitKat! YAY! But not really.
When I got this phone, it was loaded with Android 4.3 Firmware, and for the first time in my life, I have not been able to Root my phone. I looked through all the methods out there, but none of them worked. Some people claim this one and that one, but for me, I couldn't get it to do a darn thing. Well, no big deal, it's not like I really need to root my phone.
Except that you do. YOU NEED TO ROOT YOUR AT&T PHONES!
I noticed that the OS on this 32g model uses an unprecedented 7g of space!!! That's aside from the apps that come with the phone that I will never use. Leaving me with only 21g of space on my phone, which claims to be a 32g model. Again, this is not a big deal, right? You can throw an SD card in there if you need more space...
FINE
Now comes the issue of the AT&T and Samsung Exclusive Applications that are loaded on to the phone when you get it, and ARE IRREMOVABLE! These apps are here to stay. It doesn't matter if you don't use them, or like them, or want your disc space back, screw you AT&T customer, you HAVE to have these apps.
The sickening part about all of this is the mandatory obligation you are put under when getting your new phone. No one tells you that AT&T is going to shove all of this crap down your throat. And it wouldn't be so bad if these apps were removable... it wouldn't be so bad if you could root your phone an remove them yourself... it wouldn't be so bad if you could a custom firmware on the device you just dropped $700 on... I mean, it is your phone, isn't it?
But Samsung & AT&T have gone so far out of their way locking this device down to a point where it is next to impossible to unlock and do anything with!!! Is it really that big of a problem? Someone always seems to find a way around it eventually, so why do it?
Regardless, It looks like I should have bought the Nexus 5, that way my OS wouldn't take up 7g of my 32g of space, and I wouldn't have a bunch of bloatware filling up my phone. I'd love to hear that someone has found a way to root this new NB1 baseband, and allow for custom firmware installation, because I'd like to take this phone back to AT&T and shove it down their throat.
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Switch carrier, or be grateful that you have this powerful smartphone. xD
Moderator Edit - Profanity Removed , that is well known. But the majority of AT&T clients don't know what root is, even, and locking bootloaders is business oriented.
"Oh, you want an unlocked bootloader? Why not get our Google edition S4?"
I'm from Bulgaria, and a friend of mine was on a student brigade in USA, and he got an S4, which I bought from him.
Little did I know it was from AT&T...
I am running Kitkat on it right now.
Bootloader locked, no root yet.
But root will be found, and in time the devs are gonna come up with some really sick ROMs.
Be patient, and when the devs do their magic, don't forget to thank them.
sirobelec said:
Switch carrier, or be grateful that you have this powerful smartphone. xD
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"Oh, you want an unlocked bootloader? Why not get our Google edition S4?"
I'm from Bulgaria, and a friend of mine was on a student brigade in USA, and he got an S4, which I bought from him.
Little did I know it was from AT&T...
I am running Kitkat on it right now.
Bootloader locked, no root yet.
But root will be found, and in time the devs are gonna come up with some really sick ROMs.
Be patient, and when the devs do their magic, don't forget to thank them.
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That's an absolute.
I was running a GS2, with ShoStock3 on it. That rom worked great, stable, smooth, no issues. My son is using that phone now, and he still has had no problems running it.
I guess my biggest problem with AT&T is what they do to a perfectly good piece of hardware. Add all their little apps to it, lock the bootloader, lock the carrier, and bloat the OS to 7 times it's original size (Not an exaggeration). I guess I'm a minimalist. The OS doesn't need to be any larger than it has to. AOSP Roms prove that. 500meg footprint instead of 7gigs!
BTW, the newest upgrade put Beats Music on my phone, and I can't remove it.
Shibblet said:
That's an absolute.
I was running a GS2, with ShoStock3 on it. That rom worked great, stable, smooth, no issues. My son is using that phone now, and he still has had no problems running it.
I guess my biggest problem with AT&T is what they do to a perfectly good piece of hardware. Add all their little apps to it, lock the bootloader, lock the carrier, and bloat the OS to 7 times it's original size (Not an exaggeration). I guess I'm a minimalist. The OS doesn't need to be any larger than it has to. AOSP Roms prove that. 500meg footprint instead of 7gigs!
BTW, the newest upgrade put Beats Music on my phone, and I can't remove it.
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Good sir, can you tell me why AT&T have clients at all? Their devices and fees cheap?
sirobelec said:
Good sir, can you tell me why AT&T have clients at all? Their devices and fees cheap?
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Their coverage area in Alaska is great. Their customer service and prices are good too. There are not a lot of options for service in the area that I am in, so I tend to go with AT&T, because when I do go out of state, I have usage where I go with no roaming fees and the like. We do not have T-Mobile or Verizon available in Alaska, unless you sign up out of state.
Could be worse. They could put the entire beats audio apk on the phone instead of it just taking up 8k since it links to the play store. While I do agree the os is over bloated at least we can disable apps we don't use and speed it up some.
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1. you can disable any at&t and most Samsung bloat app via the app manager.
2. all bloat combined adds up to a few hundred megabytes, barely making a dent. its the features that differentiate the s4 from lesser devices that take up this extra space. motion controls, smart screen, air controls... these are what take up the space.
3. who keeps data on the device anyway? devices break, devices brick, etc... SD cards are fairly robust and can be removed in the event of a failed device. my music, photos, downloads, etc is on my 32 GB SD card. cloud sync'd data is on internal to save space on the card but that's stored elsewhere anyway.
I love root for one very simple reason: AdAway. I used to just flash new roms immediately upon getting a phone but vanilla is boring. OE stuff is getting pretty good. I used to automatically install Titanium backup and freeze everything that way but the app manager allows us to do this now.
Actually, can we have a thread, for example this one, for general ranting, complaining, hate and such (NONE of it towards fellow xda members)?
I mean, ranting over stuff we can't do much about. AT&T politics, bloatware, etc. Call it stress relief.
And rehab sessions for flashaholics who updated to this locked Kitkat, but now their booze is taken away.
Shibblet said:
I just received an OTA update for My Galaxy S4 SGH-I337. My phone seized up and I had to take it into Best Buy in order to get the firmware re-installed so my phone would actually work! That was blissful... So now I am now running Android 4.4.2 KitKat! YAY! But not really.
When I got this phone, it was loaded with Android 4.3 Firmware, and for the first time in my life, I have not been able to Root my phone. I looked through all the methods out there, but none of them worked. Some people claim this one and that one, but for me, I couldn't get it to do a darn thing.
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Did you mean you were also unable to root 4.3 mk2? I have rooted.a dozen or so mk2 devices for people with safe root.
If you meant kit kat. Then it was just released be patient.
Bloat ware can be removed once the root is obtained.
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I feel your pain......
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Did you mean you were also unable to root 4.3 mk2? I have rooted.a dozen or so mk2 devices for people with safe root.
If you meant kit kat. Then it was just released be patient.
Bloat ware can be removed once the root is obtained.
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There is a safe root method for 4.3. It's the same as the method for Verizon. My 4.3 S4 is rooted right now. However, I'll only have this thing for about another week. I am fed up with Samsung and AT&T. I still have AT&T grandfathered unlimited data, and that's the only reason I'm still with them. This is my first Android phone and it is FAR from the open experience I expected coming from iPhone (jailbroken of course). Jailbreak was easier than initially rooting this model S4. Then I learned of the locked bootloader.........Knox was the final straw. Samsung can keep their forced security BS. I ordered a 32 GB Nexus 5 yesterday and am jumping off the Samsung ship. Love the hardware, hate that I can do anything I would like to with my device. And no offense to Devs working on it, but I've never waited as long for an iPhone jailbreak to happen on iOS as the bootloader unlock on this thing is taking for somebody to figure out. I'm not sure if it will happen, so I'm not going to worry about it. From here on out, it's only unlocked open phones for me. If I'm up for contract renewal, I'll get the most popular phone at the time from my carrier, sell it, and buy a Nexus/ Google Play Edition device. Camera maybe better on S4, but that's not my primary use anyway. Nexus 5 camera is good enough for me. And I don't have to buy additional parts to get Qi wireless charging.
I think Samsung wants to move to Tizen eventually anyway........so they have full control of EVERYTHING......just like Apple. Not for me.
- Jeremy
Shibblet said:
I just received an OTA update for My Galaxy S4 SGH-I337. My phone seized up and I had to take it into Best Buy in order to get the firmware re-installed so my phone would actually work! That was blissful... So now I am now running Android 4.4.2 KitKat! YAY! But not really.
When I got this phone, it was loaded with Android 4.3 Firmware, and for the first time in my life, I have not been able to Root my phone. I looked through all the methods out there, but none of them worked. Some people claim this one and that one, but for me, I couldn't get it to do a darn thing. Well, no big deal, it's not like I really need to root my phone.
Except that you do. YOU NEED TO ROOT YOUR AT&T PHONES!
I noticed that the OS on this 32g model uses an unprecedented 7g of space!!! That's aside from the apps that come with the phone that I will never use. Leaving me with only 21g of space on my phone, which claims to be a 32g model. Again, this is not a big deal, right? You can throw an SD card in there if you need more space...
FINE
Now comes the issue of the AT&T and Samsung Exclusive Applications that are loaded on to the phone when you get it, and ARE IRREMOVABLE! These apps are here to stay. It doesn't matter if you don't use them, or like them, or want your disc space back, screw you AT&T customer, you HAVE to have these apps.
The sickening part about all of this is the mandatory obligation you are put under when getting your new phone. No one tells you that AT&T is going to shove all of this crap down your throat. And it wouldn't be so bad if these apps were removable... it wouldn't be so bad if you could root your phone an remove them yourself... it wouldn't be so bad if you could a custom firmware on the device you just dropped $700 on... I mean, it is your phone, isn't it?
But Samsung & AT&T have gone so far out of their way locking this device down to a point where it is next to impossible to unlock and do anything with!!! Is it really that big of a problem? Someone always seems to find a way around it eventually, so why do it?
Regardless, It looks like I should have bought the Nexus 5, that way my OS wouldn't take up 7g of my 32g of space, and I wouldn't have a bunch of bloatware filling up my phone. I'd love to hear that someone has found a way to root this new NB1 baseband, and allow for custom firmware installation, because I'd like to take this phone back to AT&T and shove it down their throat.
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Even when we do get to root the phone, you will not be able to reclaim any of that space.
Sorry.
It's not the OS...
joeybear23 said:
Even when we do get to root the phone, you will not be able to reclaim any of that space.
Sorry.
It's not the OS...
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That's lame... but can you explain why? Is this area set aside as a cache or something?
Also, I have searched for the answer, but I can't figure out why they would go through the trouble of locking the bootloader and kernel down with a chastity belt. Any idea why they did that too? I'm just a firm believer that "rooters gonna root" regardless of how difficult they make it.
It just makes me think of things in terms of games like Oblivion and Skyrim where the developers don't really care how many mods people make for their game, they don't lock it down and keep people from doing it.
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That's lame... but can you explain why? Is this area set aside as a cache or something?
Also, I have searched for the answer, but I can't figure out why they would go through the trouble of locking the bootloader and kernel down with a chastity belt. Any idea why they did that too? I'm just a firm believer that "rooters gonna root" regardless of how difficult they make it.
It just makes me think of things in terms of games like Oblivion and Skyrim where the developers don't really care how many mods people make for their game, they don't lock it down and keep people from doing it.
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The space is locked down for use by the ROM, and it is just written that way for the device, and devs have not been able to unlock it.
As for locking the bootloader, I am sure ATT is sick of eating up the expense of replacing phones as "defective" due to user ignorance. People brick phones left and right and then turn it back over to ATT and have to give a new phone in exchange. ATT can certainly repair them and reflash them, however they can only then be sold as refurbished units which hits them financially, not to mention the man-hours needed for reflashing them. Each device maybe takes a few minutes, but multiply that by thousands of returned devices and it is a compelling case for keeping future users from doing the same.
I have rooted every Android i've owned, so don't get me wrong... but if I break the thing I wouldn't be one of those trying to make ATT pay for it.
"As of 7 June 2013, the 2000th Aventador, an Aventador LP 700-4 with Nero Nemesis (black) body colour, was built and destined for the United States owner Thaddeus Arroyo, Chief Intelligence Officer of AT&T."
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sirobelec said:
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Just a heads up on this note..
It appears that the Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader not just on Verizon (the original basturds) and AT&T (the follow-up basturds), but also T-Mobile now (the new basturds).
Supposedly, only Sprint will have the "unlocked bootloader". Though they will likely still have KNOX.
So if anyone wants an S5 and AOSP, they need to go with Sprint or wait and pay full price for the Google Play Edition.
Woth samsung pay accepting more and more banks and me finally using it, im trying to eliminate my wallet from my back pocket. The big hindrances, my drivers liscense and my business cards/insirance card, really any card thats not for money purposes. So does anyone know of a good secure app that will let me store my misc cards on? I was using CamCards but after reading reviews on its security, i deleted it and am on the hint for a new app. Thanks
I have an SM-P905V that is on 5.1.1 and I have recently left Verizon.
Is there any way to update and root yet? From what I have read this has not been possible for a long while.
I am now on Project Fi and the tablet works save for a persistent nag in the notification shade that says it is not a Verizon SIM. The notification can not be turned off as it is a system app.
Plus I want to get rid of the Verizon crap software completely, as well as update the OS.
Verizon is passing the buck on unlocking the bootloader for me. Spent 2hrs on the phone one day when they passed me to Samsung who were no help of course.
Finally went to the local V store and demanded to speak to the district supervisor. Went through the situation and got him working through his technical hierarchy. Well that crapped out.
I paid damn near $800 for this tablet. It was not supplemented. I am not on V any more. And I cannot update it!
My next step is sending a demand letter giving them time to rectify the situation within 10 days or I am going to sue them in small claims for the cost of the tablet.
I am also drafting a letter to EFF.org. This might be a fight they are willing to look into. Maybe not.
This is akin to me buying a PC from Dell with windows 8.1 and then Dell locking it so I can't put Windows 10 on it when it comes out. I couldn't even put Ubuntu on it!!!!
Just curious if there is anything I can do through these boards before to wipe the tablet I go through the effort of suing. And I am not optimistic on that but who knows how things work out sometimes.
I would fully expect V to try to bump it up to Superior court.
All of this crap is absolutely unnecessary and they are causing every bit of it.
Just got a used SM-P905V purchased on eBay and use Package Disabler Pro and PDP Engine V2 to disable many Samsung services, not sure where I should look for the SIM card notification (I still get that on mine).
I swore-off androids (ADHD makes smartphones a very bad distraction for some, especially me) but my friend got a "buy one, get one" deal on the S8+ and, after putting a small edge-crack in the first one, just put it aside - she ended up giving it to me.
With her pins I removed the samsung/google accounts and did a hard-reset, then updated the system- my understanding was that, after doing this, that the phone would be 'open' for switching providers, so expect this is a different level of 'lock' (after hard-resetting, there was an App called 'device unlock', I had to connect to my wifi to get an answer and it said 'no', to contact customer service)
Am unsure if she can get them to unlock it, but even that is a major PITA (we don't see each other often nor do we live nearby), and I half-expect they're going to say 'no' to her anyways if she's trying to get them to let a 3rd party use it on a different carrier. So, I want/may-have-to crack it to get around this and while I'm guessing that a custom ROM will bypass this, I've read enough about there being something on the chip that'll be irrevocably 'tripped' when rooting the phone before flashing ROM's, and that once tripped it can't be undone and causes issues....so am wary!
There's also the idea of just flashing the regular G955U1 firmware but even w/ that I'm unsure if it'll 'trip' whatever the chip's protection from rooting is, I'd really like to get my service (Tracfone) onto it before doing more aggressive 'minimalization' of the system as I'd like to mess-around w/ a new android OS for a bit just to check it out (last time I used android, towelroot was the premiere go-to...that should give an idea how long it's been!)
Any/all ideas or tips or just keywords to get me pointed in the right direction would be incredibly appreciated, have spent many hours this week trying to get this thing working w/ my service, am awaiting my 2nd SIM card (my old phone, via Tracfone, was using verizon towers- so if I want to keep my #, I have to use the Verizon SIM they've mailed me that should be here any day) and, after that re-set, I'm expecting that even the new SIM will not be enough to get it working properly :/
(Something I think is important to point out, though it could be a fluke- during one of my tech-support sessions w/ the people at my carrier(Tracfone), the first one actually, we ended the call *thinking* it was fixed - the tech had finished on his end, asked me to make a call w/ the S8+, I called my landline and sure enough my phone# was calling my landline (via the S8+), however the tech said there were still issues and that he'd work on them, to call back in 24hrs. After hanging-up, I started testing and the first thing I did was to *call* my cell# from the landline and, sure enough, the old phone started ringing (the old phone is CDMA so it wasn't like I'd pulled its SIM), am unsure if I should take this to mean that it just let me dial-out as a fluke (I hadn't hard-reset the handset yet) or if it went wrong another way, but I *was* able to make a single outgoing call from the S8+ with my # so am getting the impression the lock isn't *that* unbeatable!)
Do a google search for UnlockUnit(.)com and check if your S8 qualifies to be unlocked.
Thank you!!
RossTeagan said:
Do a google search for UnlockUnit(.)com and check if your S8 qualifies to be unlocked.
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TBH that seems sketchy to me but it's a fail-safe/last-ditch effort I'll do if/when the time comes....
I just got a 30d temp-unlock from t-mobile (after a conference call w/ them & my friend the prior owner & myself), so right now am thinking *maybe* I can do things as far as cracking that lock that i couldn't have before....I don't care if I hobble the phone, I only care if the cracked unit can do talk/text, if it loses data I'm fine with that (honestly I'd be looking for the most minimalist ROM if/when I get my non-t-mobile service onto this thing, am a linux person and hoping they've got linux-esque rom's at this point!)((yes, I know android is based off linux I just mean putting a super-minimalist 'basic mode' *nix setup, that'd be my ideal!!))
I know there's a 'trip' on the logic-board on the CPU but my understanding is that tripping it only ruins the ability to get samsung updates and things of that nature, but that it *does not* ruin the ability of the handset to call/text, or use wifi....am still just thinking there *has* to be a way to crack this thing if I'm willing to lose-out on every feature besides talk/text, honestly I've been considering going to this t-mobile location that I suspect is a franchise in a 'ghetto' area near me and trying to just slip their tech $50 or something to unlock it! Though I'd much rather just crack it at-home so I can have higher assurance it's not merely this 'temporary unlock' feature and that I actually get it truly carrier-unlocked....hate that they went so far to lock it out but am having trouble thinking it's unbeatable!
(regarding the pay-for-unlock-code types of operations like you linked, do you know of others' experiences like how reliable a service it is, something more like 50/50 or 95% reliable? Have read an anecdote of someone unlocking one that way, only for the handset to be locked again a month later.....presumably they paid for a temp-unlock, thinking it was a permanent one- but permanent is all that these services seem to imply they do!)