Planning on getting the Z5 when it comes out, and switching to T-Mobile. I have been hearing recently that some Band 12 LTE phones, which the Z5 is part of, supports the data transfer, but not VoLTE to make calls. This is a reasonably big deal cause the phone doesn't switch to HSPA or GSM to make the call, for some technical reason.
Nothing in the white paper says it does, and google doesn't pull up any relevant results, so just wondering if anyone here knew
thanks!
the links below are for reading about T-Mobile and their B12 VoLTE issues
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...2-lte-support-from-some-unlocked-smartphones/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...cked-smartphones-and-yep-its-still-confusing/
Planning on getting the Z5 when it comes out, and switching to T-Mobile. I have been hearing recently that some Band 12 LTE phones, which the Z5 is part of, supports the data transfer, but not VoLTE to make calls. This is a reasonably big deal cause the phone doesn't switch to HSPA or GSM to make the call, for some technical reason.
Nothing in the white paper says it does, and google doesn't pull up any relevant results, so just wondering if anyone here knew
thanks!
the links below are for reading about T-Mobile and their B12 VoLTE issues
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/08...d-smartphones/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/08...ill-confusing/
In the same boat here. I reached out to a sales engineer @ T-Mobile to ask about this (perk of having an account rep through our business account). Nobody internally at T-Mo knew offhand, but they were going to reach out to contacts they have at Sony to see if they can get me an answer. I'm hoping I get good news - or any news actually.
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So in doing a little more research I ran across this older post from Sony Developer World about their initial VoLTE testing in 2013.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/02/27/sony-demos-volte-telecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/
What's of particular interest in the most recent reply in the comments section from the post stating all phones starting with the Z2 are VoLTE-capable. It's encouraging at the very least.
Direct link to his comment: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/#comment-16198
doclloyd said:
In the same boat here. I reached out to a sales engineer @ T-Mobile to ask about this (perk of having an account rep through our business account). Nobody internally at T-Mo knew offhand, but they were going to reach out to contacts they have at Sony to see if they can get me an answer. I'm hoping I get good news - or any news actually.
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So in doing a little more research I ran across this older post from Sony Developer World about their initial VoLTE testing in 2013.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/02/27/sony-demos-volte-telecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/
What's of particular interest in the most recent reply in the comments section from the post stating all phones starting with the Z2 are VoLTE-capable. It's encouraging at the very least.
Direct link to his comment: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/#comment-16198
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aaah, that's very interesting indeed, especially the point about VoLTE capable. it will be interesting to find out if Sony is one of the carriers that will go through T-Mobile's certification process for unlocked phones. Although, it doesnt really matter to me anymore cause I decided to get an S6 because finances are a bit tied up
According to my T-Mobile rep who spoke to their Sony rep, the Z5 (series) is VoLTE capable, assuming also it means that it's compatible with their network. At least you'd hope that would be a conversation point from T-Mobile to Sony asking about a phone to be used on their network.
doclloyd said:
According to my T-Mobile rep who spoke to their Sony rep, the Z5 (series) is VoLTE capable, assuming also it means that it's compatible with their network. At least you'd hope that would be a conversation point from T-Mobile to Sony asking about a phone to be used on their network.
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how interesting. the phone definitely supports all the bands tmobile uses, apart from AWS HSPA. now i suppose the question is whether sony is willing to put the z5 series through tmo's VoLTE certification process.
I hope that is the case too. The Z3+ was VoLTE capable, but it didn't work with tmobile, so b12 didn't work. We don't need AWS HSPA (GSM band 4) though. Tmobile moved almost all of the HSPA over to the 1900mhz band. I think that's GSM band 2?
sillieidiot said:
I hope that is the case too. The Z3+ was VoLTE capable, but it didn't work with tmobile, so b12 didn't work. We don't need AWS HSPA (GSM band 4) though. Tmobile moved almost all of the HSPA over to the 1900mhz band. I think that's GSM band 2?
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Interesting. Did you have the Z3+ and try to use the phone in a T-Mobile B12 coverage area? And yes LTE Band 2 is 1900MHz.
Sounds like if I buy the Z5, or the Compact more specifically, I'll at least get the same coverage as I have now and hopefully VoLTE B12 coverage too in the near future?
Any news on this?
papi92 said:
Any news on this?
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Doesn't look like it does. No option to switch it on like on ZTE Axon and now that I actually have LTE it always switches to H/H+ when receiving/making calls. AT&T only, not sure about T-Mobile.
Before looking up what is VoLTE, all I can say is that my Z5 shows its icon in the statusbar.
My Z5 picks up Band 12 in NJ and in the subway in NYC, when I make a call it switches to hspa, so I don't really care about volte
There is an option.
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Sh4rkill3r said:
There is an option.
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Are you on a carrier specific firmware outside of the US?
sovanyio said:
Are you on a carrier specific firmware outside of the US?
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No. Carrier free version from Europe. E6653. Im in Argentina.
Same here , Z5 Premium - phone switches to HSPA+ on a call, while iPhone works on VoLTE. Sucks! Calls go through much faster on VoLTE
Yeah I drop the H+ from LTE also on a call. I like my LG V10 can do that, but don't talk on the phone much (so don't use the HD Voice) and almost never surf the web while talking (so H+ is fine for now).
cliffr39 said:
Yeah I drop the H+ from LTE also on a call. I like my LG V10 can do that, but don't talk on the phone much (so don't use the HD Voice) and almost never surf the web while talking (so H+ is fine for now).
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If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you can still surf and talk even if you drop down to H+ during a call.
se1000 said:
If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you can still surf and talk even if you drop down to H+ during a call.
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Yep I know, was just saying that the lack of VoLTE isn't an issue for me and my usage
dunno what VOLTE is but my 6653 Z5 has it in quick setting when editing it you can find it
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AMA.
Gogogo.
A metric boatload of questions....
How's the audio processor?
How does NFC work?
What are uses for the fingerprint sensor besides unlocking the device?
How's the video quality?
Does it overheat or start to get warm during tasks?
What's your best SOT?
How easy is it to switch networks with two sims?
I have more questions but I'll relax and ask them later.
RealFuryous said:
How's the audio processor?
How does NFC work?
What are uses for the fingerprint sensor besides unlocking the device?
How's the video quality?
Does it overheat or start to get warm during tasks?
What's your best SOT?
How easy is it to switch networks with two sims?
I have more questions but I'll relax and ask them later.
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How's the audio processor?
For recording videos it is very clear and loud. Haven't tested it with a hifi earbud yet. Sound from speakers are decently loud but do now sound as bassy as the HTC one or nexus 6 speakers. One thing that's great is there is NO stutter when listening to audio with the front facing speakers and changing from landscape to portrait (as happens on the nexus 6)!
How does NFC work?
NFC is the same, tap on something and bam, nfc'd.
What are uses for the fingerprint sensor besides unlocking the device?
So far under android 5.1.1. Just to unlock the device. Once marshmallow comes out I'm sure more uses for it will follow.
How's the video quality?
Video quality is amazing. Colours have a nice balance to them. I turn off the x-reality engine.
Does it overheat or start to get warm during tasks?
Warm when charging and doing some serious downloading or installing a **** ton of stuff. Not hot at all. Haven't recorded 4k video. Will wait for the new camera app to be pushed out before I make any judgments.
What's your best SOT?
So far after one day of use 3.5houra SOT at 75% brightness constantly.
How easy is it to switch networks with two sims?
Seems fast enough. Just pick which for LTE and which for gsm voice. One thing of note... you cannot use LTE simultaneously on the z5 Dual. You can have one as LTE and one as gsm (2g) for voice and text only (so basically Rogers). Calling when one on sim and if someone calls you on the other sim, it will forward to your voicemail.
How easy is it to switch networks with two sims?
Seems fast enough. Just pick which for LTE and which for gsm voice. One thing of note... you cannot use LTE simultaneously on the z5 Dual. You can have one as LTE and one as gsm (2g) for voice and text only (so basically Rogers). Calling when one on sim and if someone calls you on the other sim, it will forward to your voicemail.
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When you say "just pick which for LTE and which for voice", do you mean you can actively pick which SIM is using LTE Data via the settings app, or do you have to physically switch out the SIM cards in the actual device itself? I currently have a Dual SIM Phone but to pick which one gets Data, I have to physically remove and switch the SIM cards, not through the system's settings.
You can switch them actively on the go via the settings. Sucks you can't use LTE for both sims at the same time though, but I guess that would be a huge battery drain
got the single sim - E6653 on Rogers in Vancouver, so fast!!!
I have a follow up question on the dual sim support. So you mentioned one SIM supports LTE and one will support GSM/2G.
So is the second SIM is only 2G or can you get 3G/HSPA support?
Also what happens if you get a call on the LTE SIM? Will the phone CSFB to 3G on the LTE SIM's network to accept the call (since no VoLTE support)?
Hope that makes sense.
I was considering the dual sim model since I have two SIM's myself. One for work and one for personal. Both are voice and data LTE but on separate networks (AT&T and TMobile). If i'm hearing you right then there isn't much advantage for dual sim in N. America since 2G voice isn't any cheaper than the 3G or LTE...in fact the 2G networks kinda suck now since all the focus is on LTE and getting to VoLTE.
tkruger206 said:
I have a follow up question on the dual sim support. So you mentioned one SIM supports LTE and one will support GSM/2G.
So is the second SIM is only 2G or can you get 3G/HSPA support?
Also what happens if you get a call on the LTE SIM? Will the phone CSFB to 3G on the LTE SIM's network to accept the call (since no VoLTE support)?
Hope that makes sense.
I was considering the dual sim model since I have two SIM's myself. One for work and one for personal. Both are voice and data LTE but on separate networks (AT&T and TMobile). If i'm hearing you right then there isn't much advantage for dual sim in N. America since 2G voice isn't any cheaper than the 3G or LTE...in fact the 2G networks kinda suck now since all the focus is on LTE and getting to VoLTE.
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As far as I am aware, it supports gsm network (most likely 2G only). I don't have data on my 2ND sim so I'm not sure if it supports 3G data, I doubt it though.
If I receive a call on the LTE sim, it reverts to hspda yes. No VoLTE on telus AFAIK.
Hello,
I also have Z5 Dual on my hand, and I have bought a QC 2.0 supported charger from the shop, and I tried to charge my phone with it, but I don't know if I can check whether I'm using quick charging mode or not, do you have any idea?
Thank you!
tkruger206 said:
I have a follow up question on the dual sim support. So you mentioned one SIM supports LTE and one will support GSM/2G.
So is the second SIM is only 2G or can you get 3G/HSPA support?
Also what happens if you get a call on the LTE SIM? Will the phone CSFB to 3G on the LTE SIM's network to accept the call (since no VoLTE support)?
Hope that makes sense.
I was considering the dual sim model since I have two SIM's myself. One for work and one for personal. Both are voice and data LTE but on separate networks (AT&T and TMobile). If i'm hearing you right then there isn't much advantage for dual sim in N. America since 2G voice isn't any cheaper than the 3G or LTE...in fact the 2G networks kinda suck now since all the focus is on LTE and getting to VoLTE.
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biohazardta said:
Hello,
I also have Z5 Dual on my hand, and I have bought a QC 2.0 supported charger from the shop, and I tried to charge my phone with it, but I don't know if I can check whether I'm using quick charging mode or not, do you have any idea?
Thank you!
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Just time it. Quick charge is usually 0-100% in about 1.5 hours. Which charger did you get?
Hi Guys, really want to find out if this phone supports dual 3G standby. They are turning off the 2G network shortly in my area and need to know if it will work.
ml2514 said:
AMA.
Gogogo.
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Does the Sony or Android UI tell you which network you are connected to on the primary line? In screen shots it seems like it just shows signal strength on both lines. I'm curious if it says LTE, 4G, H+ or H. My ATT service switches quite a bit here in Houston so sometimes I force the phones to 3G only in areas where reception is awful.
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phez said:
Hi Guys, really want to find out if this phone supports dual 3G standby. They are turning off the 2G network shortly in my area and need to know if it will work.
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more than likely its 3G standby, no way its 2G WRONG WRONG WRONG! see post below
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biohazardta said:
Hello,
I also have Z5 Dual on my hand, and I have bought a QC 2.0 supported charger from the shop, and I tried to charge my phone with it, but I don't know if I can check whether I'm using quick charging mode or not, do you have any idea?
Thank you!
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https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
"In laboratory tests using a 3300mAh battery1, a Quick Charge 2.0 enabled device went from 0% to 60% charge in 30 minutes"
Where did you buy it? I know EasyCellular is selling the dual for 1000$
Hi there,
Could you please post a screenshot of the service menu of your Xperia Z5 Dual? I'm interested to see what are the working bands of this phone listed in this place.
Enter *#*#7378423#*#* in the phone dialer to open up the menu.
Choose "Service Info" and then "Configuration".
Capture the screenshot (feel free to cover your IMEI there).
Thanks a lot!
techwhiz214 said:
Hi there,
Could you please post a screenshot of the service menu of your Xperia Z5 Dual? I'm interested to see what are the working bands of this phone listed in this place.
Enter *#*#7378423#*#* in the phone dialer to open up the menu.
Choose "Service Info" and then "Configuration".
Capture the screenshot (feel free to cover your IMEI there).
Thanks a lot!
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its in the whitepaper?
crazeazn said:
its in the whitepaper?
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, but I would also like to see what are the actual working bands listed from the phone. It's one reliable way to find out.
techwhiz214 said:
Thanks for your reply. Yes, but I would also like to see what are the actual working bands listed from the phone. It's one reliable way to find out.
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when I get mine this week ill try to post one for you!
Hope someone can help me!
My Xperia Z5 Dual will got the following message and forced to restart when I have changed "Preferred network type" in settings--->More--->Mobile networks--->SIM1/SIM2, or even I have replaced another SIM card. (I have turned my phone off when replacing SIM card.)
Your device will now restart to be optimised for your service provider.
This is very annoying and anyone knows how to fix this issue?
Much appreciated!
tkruger206 said:
I have a follow up question on the dual sim support. So you mentioned one SIM supports LTE and one will support GSM/2G.
So is the second SIM is only 2G or can you get 3G/HSPA support?
Also what happens if you get a call on the LTE SIM? Will the phone CSFB to 3G on the LTE SIM's network to accept the call (since no VoLTE support)?
Hope that makes sense.
I was considering the dual sim model since I have two SIM's myself. One for work and one for personal. Both are voice and data LTE but on separate networks (AT&T and TMobile). If i'm hearing you right then there isn't much advantage for dual sim in N. America since 2G voice isn't any cheaper than the 3G or LTE...in fact the 2G networks kinda suck now since all the focus is on LTE and getting to VoLTE.
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phez said:
Hi Guys, really want to find out if this phone supports dual 3G standby. They are turning off the 2G network shortly in my area and need to know if it will work.
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I stand corrected, its 2G standby! That being said you can switch the primary data line to SIM2 to LTE/HSPA which forces SIM1 to 2G :crying::crying::crying:
techwhiz214 said:
Hi there,
Could you please post a screenshot of the service menu of your Xperia Z5 Dual? I'm interested to see what are the working bands of this phone listed in this place.
Enter *#*#7378423#*#* in the phone dialer to open up the menu.
Choose "Service Info" and then "Configuration".
Capture the screenshot (feel free to cover your IMEI there).
Thanks a lot!
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Z5 Dual 6683 on AT&T / T-Mobile (US)
Identical to what is listed on the white paper
I was thinking of pulling the trigger on pre-order for a few reasons, but have not been able to get an answer of two questions!?
1 ) It says that the Verizon is coming soon, and list Band on the specs, if I pre-order will Verizon compatibility be a software upgrade or will it be a different model phone?
2 ) They talk about a developer edition with unlocked bootloader, is the the unlocked carrier version the same as the developer edition, or is that going to be a different phone all together?
Unfortunately I missed the press conference today and hoping and maybe the questions were answered. Also I figured the great knowledgeable people over here at XDA might know this answer. I have tried contacting HTC support, but it seems their chat system is down. I sent them a Facebook post with these questions, but and not optimistic that they will get back to me.
Anyways thanks,
Leroy
1. Verizon is a software update. It will run on their LTE network. In theory at least. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493426,00.asp
2. I missed if there would be a developer edition. The presentation said the unlocked carrier version can have bootloader unlocked and not void the warranty. https://youtu.be/VZM17XI409M?t=888
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HTC's website says the Verizon update will be released in November. I thought I read somewhere that it should be within a week of launch, but I can't remember where I saw it.
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Is it possible to use an Indian credit card to place an order and ship to USA address? Do they still do the verification and bill only US cards?
pkinetics said:
1. Verizon is a software update. It will run on their LTE network. In theory at least. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493426,00.asp
2. I missed if there would be a developer edition. The presentation said the unlocked carrier version can have bootloader unlocked and not void the warranty. https://youtu.be/VZM17XI409M?t=888
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HTC's website says the Verizon update will be released in November. I thought I read somewhere that it should be within a week of launch, but I can't remember where I saw it.
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Appreciate all the info @pkinetics
My only concern is what the was said in the article. The phone will not have CDMA, so those spots in a building have happened to me oh so much, where I loose LTE and go to 3g. I can assume with this phone that would mean I would have no service. I really applaud HTC for making a move so bold. There are so many unlocked phones world wide for GSM that are really affordable. I just purchased a used phone to hold me out until I decided if I wanted a Nexus 5x or not, but I think that I am gonna go with this phone. I know that I may loose service sometimes, but usually when I am in a building I am on wifi and I use hangouts for all of my calls and sms.
Thanks again for the links
neo4uo said:
I was thinking of pulling the trigger on pre-order for a few reasons, but have not been able to get an answer of two questions!?
1 ) It says that the Verizon is coming soon, and list Band on the specs, if I pre-order will Verizon compatibility be a software upgrade or will it be a different model phone?
2 ) They talk about a developer edition with unlocked bootloader, is the the unlocked carrier version the same as the developer edition, or is that going to be a different phone all together?
Unfortunately I missed the press conference today and hoping and maybe the questions were answered. Also I figured the great knowledgeable people over here at XDA might know this answer. I have tried contacting HTC support, but it seems their chat system is down. I sent them a Facebook post with these questions, but and not optimistic that they will get back to me.
Anyways thanks,
Leroy
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I don't think they're releasing a DevEd. The unlocked version is sim unlocked only I believe.
Nope, in the live stream they said the phone will not lose its warranty with opened bootloader and unlocked condition. And you can install custom roms without losing it too.
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Does anyone know if you can use the unlocked / free US version in Europe / Germany completely without any restriction?
Especially with all frequencies and bands?
Does anyone happen to know if the Sprint version has a CDMA radio? (Just wondering if it might be possible to migrate the sprint version over to verizon land.) LTE-only on Verizon will be a bit of an issue for voice calls in spotty / fringe areas...
swinokur said:
Does anyone happen to know if the Sprint version has a CDMA radio? (Just wondering if it might be possible to migrate the sprint version over to verizon land.) LTE-only on Verizon will be a bit of an issue for voice calls in spotty / fringe areas...
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If things go as planned, CDMA on Verizon will be no longer...by end of 2016.
They intend to have their entire CDMA market covered with LTE by that time and will be phasing out legacy CDMA altogether.
VoLTE will BE their voice coverage.
Just throwing that out there...
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Network2
AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
dondrog said:
Network2
AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
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When does shipment start for the USA
Are you sure ? i think they are 2 models for htc one A9 with different support for lte bands.
dondrog said:
Network2
AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
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SPCS = Sprint
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Aloha Santod,
Are you going to dev for this model?
Mahalo
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When does shipment start for the USA
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I've seen blurbs about:
1. Shipping early November. I swear I heard in the presentation he said first week of November. I'm guessing this is basic colors.
2. Acid gold and deep garnet will ship late November.
3. Sprint has said they will have the A9 available Nov 6. AT&T has committed, but not set a date or price.
The USA need to start next week Monday in my opinion.
devilman30 said:
Aloha Santod,
Are you going to dev for this model?
Mahalo
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Most likely...
Well, HTC updated A9 Verizon info on their site.
Instead of "Verizon coming soon"
Now it says: "Verizon coming in December"
:silly:
Aloha Santod,
I couldn't help myself and ended up pulling the trigger on the unlocked version. I'm hoping that if what they say is true that this will run on Verizon. If the boot loader is accessible for unlocking and it works on Verizon I will be one step closer to your custom roms.I decided to sell my M9 because I was dissapointed with the camera and I'm currently using my m8 to pass the time. Hope you decide to do your magic on this unit.
Mahalo Bro.
so its a preorder now, when will this ship for gsm models? i may return my m9 and buy this instead.
I think the a9 is a beautiful device for its price
The Sprint version has all the bands necessary for project Fi. Wonder if that's in the cards as well.
Hello,
It appears based on the bands (best I can tell) the global mi mix 3 may have a chance of working on Verizon? Is that a true statement or to much to hope for?
What other US carriers will it work with?
Thanks!
MrHencky said:
Hello,
It appears based on the bands (best I can tell) the global mi mix 3 may have a chance of working on Verizon? Is that a true statement or to much to hope for?
What other US carriers will it work with?
Thanks!
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T-Mobile/Metropcs (2, 4, *5,12, *46, 66, 71, *252, *255) and likely AT&T (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 29, 30). The doesn't have ALL of those, just listing their respective bands.
Also, Xiaomi will hold a taster event in December (NYC). Mix 3 will probably be there.
I have both a Google fi and an att Sim card in mine. Keep in mind the mnvo part of Google fi doesn't switch carriers so it's perpetually on T-Mobile. Sprint does work. Popped in a friend's Sprint Sim card just to test.
Yes. I have att in mine works perfectly. Have project fi coming next week. Good to know that works as well.
woodyp said:
I have both a Google fi and an att Sim card in mine. Keep in mind the mnvo part of Google fi doesn't switch carriers so it's perpetually on T-Mobile. Sprint does work. Popped in a friend's Sprint Sim card just to test.
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Have you tried using "Signal Info" app for MNVO part of google fi? It has a setting to tell it to do the auto switching, not sure if this will engage some setting for the phone or not. Thought I'd check. If not at least you could maybe test the carriers, sprint, US Cell, & Tmobile .
ernicoats said:
Have you tried using "Signal Info" app for MNVO part of google fi? It has a setting to tell it to do the auto switching, not sure if this will engage some setting for the phone or not. Thought I'd check. If not at least you could maybe test the carriers, sprint, US Cell, & Tmobile .
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Installed the Signal Info app (not Signal Spy). Will let you know if it switches to Sprint. I work in a building that has horrible T-Mobile coverage so I have to revert to either wifi or my AT&T sim.
FYI: It allowed me to enable the auto switching code (*#*#342886#*#*) but not carrier specific codes (e.g., Sprint)
So will it auto switch for Google Fi? I'm in the same boat as you I have ATT for work but Fi for personal.
ernicoats said:
So will it auto switch for Google Fi? I'm in the same boat as you I have ATT for work but Fi for personal.
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Does not auto switch unfortunately. So it's stuck on T-Mobile. Not a big deal.
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Installed the Signal Info app (not Signal Spy). Will let you know if it switches to Sprint. I work in a building that has horrible T-Mobile coverage so I have to revert to either wifi or my AT&T sim.
FYI: It allowed me to enable the auto switching code (*#*#342886#*#*) but not carrier specific codes (e.g., Sprint)
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Does WiFi Calling work on T-Mobile?
woodyp said:
I have both a Google fi and an att Sim card in mine. Keep in mind the mnvo part of Google fi doesn't switch carriers so it's perpetually on T-Mobile. Sprint does work. Popped in a friend's Sprint Sim card just to test.
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Are you able to send SMS/msms messages from you Fi sim? If so how did you do it?
Anyone try on Sprint or Verizon yet?
I send via Hangouts app for SMS and MMS
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Not sure if it works. It doesn't indicate WiFi calling. Airplane mode with WiFi turned on does not allow and calls unless it's thru the Hangouts app.
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I send via Hangouts app for SMS and MMS
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Not sure if it works. It doesn't indicate WiFi calling. Airplane mode with WiFi turned on does not allow and calls unless it's thru the Hangouts app.
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I installed VoEnabler module and while it gicesw the option to turn it on in settings doesn't seem to be working in real world testing.
I would like to pose a genreal qustion about sprint's B41. It would seem to me that if the 8G/256G phone receives B41, that this phone would receive it, correct? Unless sprint has done something funky with the B41 spectrum, of course.
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I would like to pose a genreal qustion about sprint's B41. It would seem to me that if the 8G/256G phone receives B41, that this phone would receive it, correct? Unless sprint has done something funky with the B41 spectrum, of course.
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It should if the part of the band 41 spectrum is in line with what Sprint uses. Some spectrum blocks use slightly different frequencies. If the Sprint merger with T-Mobile goes through though, Sprint's CDMA will mostly be be eliminated after about a year after the merger completes. T-Mobile did this when they originally bought Metro PCS as well. For longterm use, I would be more concerned with the lack of band 66 and 71 as well as a few other missing T-Mobile bands.
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It should if the part of the band 41 spectrum is in line with what Sprint uses. Some spectrum blocks use slightly different frequencies. If the Sprint merger with T-Mobile goes through though, Sprint's CDMA will mostly be be eliminated after about a year after the merger completes. T-Mobile did this when they originally bought Metro PCS as well. For longterm use, I would be more concerned with the lack of band 66 and 71 as well as a few other missing T-Mobile bands.
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Mix 3 256G/8G has: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,34,38,39,40,41,66 bands
I guess time will tell if B41 will ever work with this phone. Sprint uses FDD (or something) that might be a funky version of their own standard.
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Mix 3 256G/8G has: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,34,38,39,40,41,66 bands
I guess time will tell if B41 will ever work with this phone. Sprint uses FDD (or something) that might be a funky version of their own standard.
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Ahhh., I get the bands mixed up between the Mi Mix 3 and Honor Magic 2. That was why I stayed away from the Magic 2, was the lack of US bands.
woodyp said:
Installed the Signal Info app (not Signal Spy). Will let you know if it switches to Sprint. I work in a building that has horrible T-Mobile coverage so I have to revert to either wifi or my AT&T sim.
FYI: It allowed me to enable the auto switching code (*#*#342886#*#*) but not carrier specific codes (e.g., Sprint)
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Was it you that said that they updated to the Dev rom and Fi works with it? I thought I read someone said it did.
ernicoats said:
Was it you that said that they updated to the Dev rom and Fi works with it? I thought I read someone said it did.
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I'm using Dev rom w fi and att Sims. Hangouts and Hangouts dialer as my defaults
Ya, you know, Sprint is going to be tricky to test because Sprint locks their phones. From what I understand, taking a sims out of a Sprint phone and putting it into another does not work because Sprint wants the IMEI from the phone. That is why no one would want to use Sprint or would be desperate to use them. I was just wondering if Big John got a hold of the assets if he would continue the funky thing with the B41 or what it would turn into. It would be intersting to know because B41 has a 7 mile out reach, maybe further. Anyone else has a take on this?
Did anybody found the settings for WIFI-Call or VoLTE ?
Nothing found for Vodafone/Germany on my Z6.
No VoLTE certification on United States carriers has been the norm.
See my comment in [H]ardForum Post #10 and the response in Post#12
Has anyone, anywhere ever had a carrier VoLTE certification for their ASUS phone?
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No VoLTE certification on United States carriers has been the norm.
See my comment in [H]ardForum Post #12 and the response in Post#13
Has anyone, anywhere ever had a carrier VoLTE certification for their ASUS phone?
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I currently own an OG Pixel from 2016 and it does not have those bands you quote in the HardForum (66, 71) and yet my Pixel operates great on my area. Are those bands important for use in your area? TMobile is my carrier if that helps any. I plan on purchasing it without a doubt.
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I currently own an OG Pixel from 2016 and it does not have those bands you quote in the HardForum (66, 71) and yet my Pixel operates great on my area. Are those bands important for use in your area? TMobile is my carrier if that helps any. I plan on purchasing it without a doubt.
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I am on TMobile too currently running with a Moto G6. It has band 66 but not band 71 , and like your phone it runs great in my area too. However, I never have had a need to use band 66 or 71 . The only reason I mentioned the ZenFone 6 not having band 66 and 71 is some owners have the need (remote area, penetration of a building in the area where they are, etc).
What is critical for me is how will not having VoLTE affect my call quality?
Every phone I ever owned has had VoLTE as does your Pixel. For experimentation I toggled my phone's Preferred Network Type to 3G and made some calls to a robotic answering service and listened to their recordings and couldn't discern any difference in incoming voice quality when compared to 4G LTE. Incoming call quality over 2G however, sounded all muffled and terrible as would be expected.
Granted that is not an ideal way to test out call quality, better would be to make calls to different people over 4G and 3G and assess how they sound to me - and ask how I sound to them. But I have been reluctant to bug any of my handful of friends to do this with me.
My local TMobile outlet tells me that I shouldn't expect any loss of calling sound quality over their 3G network towers because TMobile is continually making tweaks to optimize them as part of their ongoing tower maintenance.
However, if you listen to what TMobile and others have to say about VoLTE it reads like this...
TMobile Support: VoLTE
VoLTE (Voice over LTE) allows you to place and receive calls on our LTE data network, and it's available nationwide.
Placing a call connects twice as fast.
Switching between 4G VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling does not drop a call.
HD Voice on VoLTE
HD Voice is a feature that improves in-call voice quality nationwide for compatible phones.
Voice call quality is more true-to-life, with less background noise.
It automatically activates, if you and the person you're calling are both using supported phones on VoLTE.
What's your take on this VoLTE concern wreq5 ?
Would like to hear from you and others on this. In the past I've turned down flagship phones for not being able to make calls over TMobile VoLTE. And now a very attractive phone like the Zenfone 6 appears on the scene. Sure would like to have it, if only I could be assured that not having TMobile VoLTE provisioning would not be a concern.
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I am on TMobile too currently running with a Moto G6.....
What's your take on this VoLTE concern wreq5 ?
Would like to hear from you and others on this. In the past I've turned down flagship phones for not being able to make calls over TMobile VoLTE. And now a very attractive phone like the Zenfone 6 appears on the scene. Sure would like to have it, if only I could be assured that not having TMobile VoLTE provisioning would not be a concern.
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This would not be a dealbreaker as my rural
need or getting great service in buildings is not that important but others, as yourself, do require it. As for phone calls, rarely happens for me, and I am a heavy texter so texting should be fine. The choice is yours.
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This would not be a dealbreaker as my rural
need or getting great service in buildings is not that important but others, as yourself, do require it.
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I wrote above "I never have had a need to use band 66 or 71 ".
Pretty much any phone released today supports it but carriers require specific profiles for their network. There isn't a universal profile that I'm aware of. So when a carrier says your phone isn't supported or your phone does not support it, they mean that your phone isn't certified by them or have their specific network profile.
I'll admit I'm a bit uncertain on the process of getting a phone to work with the profiles in the sense that I don't know if Asus needs to do the leg work or it's the carrier. It's probably both. That's what's causing the more obscure phone models to be limited in regards to network-specific features. So if you want to ensure support, sadly you need to buy a more mainstream device.
I'm going to have to pass on this phone. Last week I contacted ASUS technical support and requested that the inclusion of bands 66 and 71 be made via a firmware update. I also asked if ASUS is planning to enable VoLTE on North American carriers. This was their response.
May 30, 2019
Hello xxxx ,
Thank you for your patience and patronage!
In regards of your escalated query, our engineering department confirms the enabling of any GSM LTE bands cannot be done within firmware since it's integrated in the hardware of the modem itself.
Also on all our current unlocked USA/CANADA Zenfones, we currently do not have support for Voice Over LTE VoLTE in our North American market at this time.
Best Regards,
xxxxxx
ASUS Product Support
Pls can anybody check the functionality of VoLTE (wich country) and/or VoWiFi ?
*Supersnake* said:
I'm going to have to pass on this phone. Last week I contacted ASUS technical support and requested that the inclusion of bands 66 and 71 be made via a firmware update. I also asked if ASUS is planning to enable VoLTE on North American carriers. This was their response.
May 30, 2019
Hello xxxx ,
Thank you for your patience and patronage!
In regards of your escalated query, our engineering department confirms the enabling of any GSM LTE bands cannot be done within firmware since it's integrated in the hardware of the modem itself.
Also on all our current unlocked USA/CANADA Zenfones, we currently do not have support for Voice Over LTE VoLTE in our North American market at this time.
Best Regards,
xxxxxx
ASUS Product Support
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Is adding bands via firmware possible? I'm unfamiliar of the tech but sounds like a hardware fix to me like they said.
timmyj213 said:
Is adding bands via firmware possible? I'm unfamiliar of the tech but sounds like a hardware fix to me like they said.
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No
I've asked this question before and I can't find anything.
Can anybody confirm the 0/B/E versions to work on TMobile or att or mvnos of them?
If someone wants to be so kindid appreciate it. Really wanting to buy one for root.
if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.
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if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.
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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.
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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.
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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.
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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.
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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?
The missing of band 71 if using on TMO, is a big loss. I wouldn't bother.
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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?
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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.
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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.
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So to confirm, no signal at all for att/cricket?
What about h20wireless? Redpocket mobile?
What site to use to check compatibility? I'll take slower speeds
To confirm:
1. AT&T blocks your sim right away. Your phone turns into a small tablet. That's it. Nothing you can do about it. I don't bother with smaller companies. I only go for the big boys.
2. T-Mobile will give you slower speed and freedom of root. This comes from my experience. Very little chance I need to use my plan's data. I can't tell the speed is slower at all. As far as carrier's features, I don't use any of them, but I think you can still have them if you change it to proper CSC.
Google search your model then you will find what bands your model support. Then Google search your choice of carrier to see what bands they have. Google is your friend.
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
hyelton said:
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?
this.guy.lol said:
Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?
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All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent
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All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent
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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.
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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.
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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.
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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.
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Ohh ok.
hyelton said:
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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In the end, as @hyelton just said, it all depends on your area, your luck and how you would use your phone... There is no definite answer to the op's question until he figures it out himself. It works for me and I am happy with what I got but that may not apply to everyone else... If the op decides to roll the dice for a chance to get a phone that he can have total freedom over it he can go for it. Otherwise, just buy the one on Samsung website ending with U models and have all of his worries put away. Honestly, I didn't think about any of that when I placed my order.
My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks
malikin said:
My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks
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My OP was based on the international versions because I absolutely have to have root. I have not owned a phone that I could not have root capabilities in over 10 years.
I don't care so much about 5G I just want to have a phone that functions on a US carrier from overseas. Maybe it got lost in translation but I just want to know what carriers people have and if anybody has the carriers that I mentioned with confirmation or denial of service.
Specifically the carriers on most questioned about are H2O wireless and red pocket. I'm not very Google friendly and so I'm not familiar with the bands I'm used to just buying a phone and it working as intended for my purposes.
^^^ You're overthinking it. Just pull up the bandwidths for the carrier you're looking to utilize and go from there. As mentioned you're better served by going for one of the major carriers and maybe their prepaid services. Remember major carriers prioritize their post paid plans first for their optimum network traffic followed by their own respective prepaid plans and finally the MVNOs. I would stay away from the MVNOs in your scenario if you're importing a handset not configured for the U.S to begin it and degrading it further by using an MVNO.