Did anybody found the settings for WIFI-Call or VoLTE ?
Nothing found for Vodafone/Germany on my Z6.
No VoLTE certification on United States carriers has been the norm.
See my comment in [H]ardForum Post #10 and the response in Post#12
Has anyone, anywhere ever had a carrier VoLTE certification for their ASUS phone?
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No VoLTE certification on United States carriers has been the norm.
See my comment in [H]ardForum Post #12 and the response in Post#13
Has anyone, anywhere ever had a carrier VoLTE certification for their ASUS phone?
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I currently own an OG Pixel from 2016 and it does not have those bands you quote in the HardForum (66, 71) and yet my Pixel operates great on my area. Are those bands important for use in your area? TMobile is my carrier if that helps any. I plan on purchasing it without a doubt.
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I currently own an OG Pixel from 2016 and it does not have those bands you quote in the HardForum (66, 71) and yet my Pixel operates great on my area. Are those bands important for use in your area? TMobile is my carrier if that helps any. I plan on purchasing it without a doubt.
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I am on TMobile too currently running with a Moto G6. It has band 66 but not band 71 , and like your phone it runs great in my area too. However, I never have had a need to use band 66 or 71 . The only reason I mentioned the ZenFone 6 not having band 66 and 71 is some owners have the need (remote area, penetration of a building in the area where they are, etc).
What is critical for me is how will not having VoLTE affect my call quality?
Every phone I ever owned has had VoLTE as does your Pixel. For experimentation I toggled my phone's Preferred Network Type to 3G and made some calls to a robotic answering service and listened to their recordings and couldn't discern any difference in incoming voice quality when compared to 4G LTE. Incoming call quality over 2G however, sounded all muffled and terrible as would be expected.
Granted that is not an ideal way to test out call quality, better would be to make calls to different people over 4G and 3G and assess how they sound to me - and ask how I sound to them. But I have been reluctant to bug any of my handful of friends to do this with me.
My local TMobile outlet tells me that I shouldn't expect any loss of calling sound quality over their 3G network towers because TMobile is continually making tweaks to optimize them as part of their ongoing tower maintenance.
However, if you listen to what TMobile and others have to say about VoLTE it reads like this...
TMobile Support: VoLTE
VoLTE (Voice over LTE) allows you to place and receive calls on our LTE data network, and it's available nationwide.
Placing a call connects twice as fast.
Switching between 4G VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling does not drop a call.
HD Voice on VoLTE
HD Voice is a feature that improves in-call voice quality nationwide for compatible phones.
Voice call quality is more true-to-life, with less background noise.
It automatically activates, if you and the person you're calling are both using supported phones on VoLTE.
What's your take on this VoLTE concern wreq5 ?
Would like to hear from you and others on this. In the past I've turned down flagship phones for not being able to make calls over TMobile VoLTE. And now a very attractive phone like the Zenfone 6 appears on the scene. Sure would like to have it, if only I could be assured that not having TMobile VoLTE provisioning would not be a concern.
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I am on TMobile too currently running with a Moto G6.....
What's your take on this VoLTE concern wreq5 ?
Would like to hear from you and others on this. In the past I've turned down flagship phones for not being able to make calls over TMobile VoLTE. And now a very attractive phone like the Zenfone 6 appears on the scene. Sure would like to have it, if only I could be assured that not having TMobile VoLTE provisioning would not be a concern.
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This would not be a dealbreaker as my rural
need or getting great service in buildings is not that important but others, as yourself, do require it. As for phone calls, rarely happens for me, and I am a heavy texter so texting should be fine. The choice is yours.
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This would not be a dealbreaker as my rural
need or getting great service in buildings is not that important but others, as yourself, do require it.
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I wrote above "I never have had a need to use band 66 or 71 ".
Pretty much any phone released today supports it but carriers require specific profiles for their network. There isn't a universal profile that I'm aware of. So when a carrier says your phone isn't supported or your phone does not support it, they mean that your phone isn't certified by them or have their specific network profile.
I'll admit I'm a bit uncertain on the process of getting a phone to work with the profiles in the sense that I don't know if Asus needs to do the leg work or it's the carrier. It's probably both. That's what's causing the more obscure phone models to be limited in regards to network-specific features. So if you want to ensure support, sadly you need to buy a more mainstream device.
I'm going to have to pass on this phone. Last week I contacted ASUS technical support and requested that the inclusion of bands 66 and 71 be made via a firmware update. I also asked if ASUS is planning to enable VoLTE on North American carriers. This was their response.
May 30, 2019
Hello xxxx ,
Thank you for your patience and patronage!
In regards of your escalated query, our engineering department confirms the enabling of any GSM LTE bands cannot be done within firmware since it's integrated in the hardware of the modem itself.
Also on all our current unlocked USA/CANADA Zenfones, we currently do not have support for Voice Over LTE VoLTE in our North American market at this time.
Best Regards,
xxxxxx
ASUS Product Support
Pls can anybody check the functionality of VoLTE (wich country) and/or VoWiFi ?
*Supersnake* said:
I'm going to have to pass on this phone. Last week I contacted ASUS technical support and requested that the inclusion of bands 66 and 71 be made via a firmware update. I also asked if ASUS is planning to enable VoLTE on North American carriers. This was their response.
May 30, 2019
Hello xxxx ,
Thank you for your patience and patronage!
In regards of your escalated query, our engineering department confirms the enabling of any GSM LTE bands cannot be done within firmware since it's integrated in the hardware of the modem itself.
Also on all our current unlocked USA/CANADA Zenfones, we currently do not have support for Voice Over LTE VoLTE in our North American market at this time.
Best Regards,
xxxxxx
ASUS Product Support
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Is adding bands via firmware possible? I'm unfamiliar of the tech but sounds like a hardware fix to me like they said.
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Is adding bands via firmware possible? I'm unfamiliar of the tech but sounds like a hardware fix to me like they said.
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I'm a Tmobile customer who recently upgraded from Galaxy S5 to Mate 9. My new Mate 9 struggles to get a cell signal in my house, which prohibits sending/receiving texts and making/receiving calls. It mostly says Emergency Calls Only or No Service at the top of the screen. I did not have these issues with my mid-2014 device, so I'm surprised and disappointed to have them today. Could be a deal breaker in keeping the device.
Are there any settings or changes I can make within the device to improve signal strength?
That is surprising, as I've had much better reception compared to my Note 3. No settings changed, just popped in the SIM (after cutting it down to fit). But I should add that my Note 3 was an AT&T version, which did not support t-mobile's Band 12, so it's POSSIBLE that extra band has contributed to my better reception.
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I'm a Tmobile customer who recently upgraded from Galaxy S5 to Mate 9. My new Mate 9 struggles to get a cell signal in my house, which prohibits sending/receiving texts and making/receiving calls. It mostly says Emergency Calls Only or No Service at the top of the screen. I did not have these issues with my mid-2014 device, so I'm surprised and disappointed to have them today. Could be a deal breaker in keeping the device.
Are there any settings or changes I can make within the device to improve signal strength?
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No wifi calling on T-Mobile doesnt help either.
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That is surprising, as I've had much better reception compared to my Note 3. No settings changed, just popped in the SIM (after cutting it down to fit). But I should add that my Note 3 was an AT&T version, which did not support t-mobile's Band 12, so it's POSSIBLE that extra band has contributed to my better reception.
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I kinda wonder if this phone actually gets band 12. There seems to be no way to see what band ur phones using and i get better reception by a lot at work and my apartment with my pixel xl than my mate 9. How can it be certified on band 12 with tmobile and not have wifi calling on tmobile?
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How can it be certified on band 12 with tmobile and not have wifi calling on tmobile?
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I don't see why the two would be related. My understanding is WiFi calling is a somewhat proprietary function: WiFi calling on T-mobile is different than WiFi calling on AT&T, etc., so the software to use it is specific to the carrier. Band 12 is just another band. If the phone supports it (and it's supposed to), then it should work.
I live in a somewhat poor t-mobile spot: I typically only got 1 or 2 two at home, and 1 bar, to sometimes no service in the Kroger a block away from me. With the Mate 9, I'm getting 3-4 bars in both places.
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I don't see why the two would be related. My understanding is WiFi calling is a somewhat proprietary function: WiFi calling on T-mobile is different than WiFi calling on AT&T, etc., so the software to use it is specific to the carrier. Band 12 is just another band. If the phone supports it (and it's supposed to), then it should work.
I live in a somewhat poor t-mobile spot: I typically only got 1 or 2 two at home, and 1 bar, to sometimes no service in the Kroger a block away from me. With the Mate 9, I'm getting 3-4 bars in both places.
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But with band 12 doesnt you're phone have to be certified by T-Mobile to really work on band 12? I thot it did which in turn made me thing, why would it be band 12 certifed and not have T-Mobiles wifi calling certified?
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But with band 12 doesnt you're phone have to be certified by T-Mobile to really work on band 12?
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I'm not aware of anything "special" about band 12 vs. any other band.
Yeah the exact opposite over here. Really strong signals indoor not to mention where my Nexus 6p and note 4 signals would be dead zero, I'm still able to get LTE. And yeah it does have band 12
I've tried my phone in Japan on Docomo and AU networks, and in the US on T-Mobile, and I haven't had trouble with reception at all. But obviously, this is totally subjective and is based on your location relative towers.
Total opposite for me, slightly better reception that with my previous phones.
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Appreciate the feedback. I'll need to expedite a decision to either return it or hope for a resolution at some future point. Thanks!
yeap, band 12 (indoor) band sucks on my CHN 6/128 turned EU. I had a US Mate 9 and indoor reception sucked as well. My old LG V20 and Note 7 had better indoor signal.
I have 2 bars 4g where i couldn't have signal on other phones.
I was looking to purchase this phone early as its £100 off in the UK but am worried about the below from reading on here.
There are problems with the phone no working with LTE as some have mentioned there is no option within the OS to say that its supported or lacks a way to enable it. Also reading below comment from my Carrier ThreeUK I may hold of is call quality is a issue until someone can check the options in the ROGPhones settings and ThreeUK confirm support for 3rd party phones on their network.
4G Super-Voice doesn't work on other non-Three devices yet however, even if the manufacturer has stated that it's VoLTE compatible. We're working on this, so be sure to check back for updates.
Is there anyone who can check and advise if this worth holding back for at the cost of £100 as id buy the phone out right
Just wondering this too. I have a Pixel 2 XL and a Moto G6 Plus on it's way and I would like to get VOLTE (AKA Supervoice) working. Option to enable it is missing and go deeper into the settings and VOLTE Provisioning is greyed out
My Carrier Three UK support the following bands:
800mhz (4G) Band 20
1800mhz (4G) Band 3
2100mhz (3G) Band 1
i get lost between phone version A and B as both support FDD-LTE bands listed above. I dont get TD-LTE at all in my country, then what confuses me is WCDMA where i get band 1 & 3 but not 20, then TS-SCMA and CDMA and the last row i dont think is still on in the uk.
so having a look on the razer phone specs as i know it works on three uk even when bought from razer but as the stock both RP1 and RP2 this maybe in their carrier settings.
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/compare?products=Phone-Base,Phone-2-Base …
compared to the RP1 i have and RP2 and then comparing to Asus i think ill be ok but need to test the LTE/Supervoice. i dont make calls that often so need to see the impact it has but then in 15 days i could test this out once the phones setup and updated make a few calls without wifi connection at my desk at work and at my house where they are the only two places i may hit a black spot and have to rely on wifi calling but this is where LTE comes in and is required to allow me to make that call on LTE/Super Voice rather than wifi calling so that if i have to leave the room or building the call does not drop out.
this is comforting to hear though from Three UK on the page below
"Right now, all 4G Super-Voice compatible iPhones will be 4G Super-Voice enabled once the carrier settings have been installed, even if they didn't come from Three.
4G Super-Voice doesn't work on other non-Three devices yet however, even if the manufacturer has stated that it's VoLTE compatible. We're working on this, so be sure to check back for updates.
Phone not compatible?
We update this list with more phones regularly, so check back again soon."
http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/network/4G-Supervoice
its basically a test it and see what happens, so if i can make a decent call from home or work at that point if i find its hard to make and stay connected on the phone in a call i will have to return the device.
If its not a problem and i can make and receive a call without LTE support even if it comes later which would be nice but not needed right away i can live without it. Hey i may just even work when the carrier settings hit my phone but if people say the option is greyed out that could be the network or phone doesnt support it. However if Asus are selling the phone as LTE supported and its at the bottom of the page im leading towards its enabled by carrier settings if not then i would investigate as ASUS need to look at their settings because their technically breaking the law if their advertising it as a feature and your carrier say it will work but the phone doesnt enable it. Again if you have this issue do not throw this at ASUS without doing homework 1st as from smart phones these days its hard to see where a problem lies could be google or asus or your carrier.
If you buy from asus uk direct you get 15 days to test it and check it over so in that time you its one of the things to check and return if it doesnt for you.
It hard to just buy a phone thats not sold with a contract these days and yes even Apple phones have features that some carriers support and some dont. Look at visual voice mail as i was with o2 UK for years and got freaked out when i lost the visual voicemail feature because i moved to Three UK. where you get a txt message rather than a little icon with a number on it. small thing but a good example.
I did try contacting ASUS about VoLTE and Wifi Calling on Three. Or if they didn't support it on the unlocked version would they be selling the device through UK Carriers where they would put there own version of the firmware on the device to support these functionalities. But as I kinda expected would happen there response wasn't exactly clear. I think they just took a look at the spec sheet and said yep it says VoLTE on there and replied to me.
Would love to get this to replace my Razer Phone but rely on Wifi Calling/VoLTE as signal just dies inside the flat.
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"Dear Luke,
Thank you for contacting Asus support. Yes VoLTE is support
[B]RF Band Support[/B]
FDD-LTE - Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32
TD-LTE - Band 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46
WCDMA - Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19
TD-SCDMA - Band 34, 39
CDMA - Band BC0
EDGE/GPRS/GSM - 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
DL 5CA and UL 2CA supported
4x4 MIMO and CA w/4x4 MIMO supported (please see band config worksheet)
[B]Network features[/B]
Gigabit LTE
CAT 16
4x4 MIMO
256 QAM
UL 64QAM
feICIC
RACH Optimization
CMDA Less
ETTI-B
SCM
SON/MDT
[U][B][I]VoLTE/VoWiFi[/I][/B][/U]
As for the information on availability, this has not yet been annouced in what way it will be released
Kind regards,
Peter S.
Asus Customer Service
Asus Technical Support Site: http://support.asus.com"
I have pre ordered from the official website/asus reseller i have a list of things i will be comparing to my Razer Phone 1st gen. if it meets the standard im happy with i will keep the phone and if not then it goes back for a refund. Im the same but i think LTE/VOLTE is a gimmick as i barely see that im using it enough to justify my phone being locked down to a carrier. Current all ThreeUK related settings such as LTE/4G Supervoice and wifi calling is off and has been for about 2 weeks now and i must say i have not noticed a difference.
Worth checking and turning off some settings as LTE is only really used in blackspot.
I got the phone during £100 off and also got the twin view dock before it went out of stock was probably the first few ppl to get the dock cuz soon after it was out of stock
Works well with three £20 unlimited broadband package unlimited message, voice thats why i like three their data package are always a good buy
But my speeds arnt bad as its 4G and no issue with calls either three may send a message saying it cant automatically set the settings up for this device as they normally message you the network settings but it dint need setting up it worked right away
I'm currently with EE. No VoLTE no VoWiFi. Hope Pie update will have it cooked in. OnePlus 6 got them both.
will volte work out the box for TMobile ? They won't activate phones on their network after a while if they don't support VOLTE.... Or any plans to update it in the near future. When will this go on sale in North America?
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I am currently on T-mo, it doesn't do VoLTE currently, I know its possible via root and changing parameters. ALSO they just enabled VoLTE for their ROG phone 3 via an update so I will assume they will probably do the same for the ZF7, if not I will have to root it.
I asked an asus rep about sale in NA and they didn't have an answer from marketing team, so I bought mine on eBay
I'm beginning to think they will sell in in america especially if they enable volte for TMobile like they did the rog 3. I'm waiting to see if they enable volte on the 6 and the 7.
And then there's the OnePlus 8T coming in going to weigh my optione
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https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1311888502188109824?s=19
This guy apparently has VoLTE already on his phone, unsure how though.
Will this work on att in the states? Also which model if so?
ATT will ONLY work upto 3g. You will see an H on top the signal bar which indicates a Enhanced 3g speed also know as HSPA speed connection. I have tried 2 new sim cards. I have tried several APN's I have tried all updates and a reset. No 4G and no 5G on ATT. Unless someone can tell me something new, this phone will not FULLY work on ATT. Text works. Calls work. Internet is sort of hit and miss with decent signal but again rather slow.
T Mobile will ONLY work upto 4g. No Volte although it seems to have the capability of Volte it cant not work with Tmobile Volte because it seems the cell bands are not compatible. Text work. Internet works rather fast, Good solid signal however no 5G and no Volte due to incompatible cell bands.
I did research on this subject and found that the ATT cell bands for everything including 5G do seem to be compatible with the 7 pro but again, it does not FULLY work oddly
I also did research on Tmobile cell bands and the bands for 5G are not even close to being compatible. Volte is also non compatible. 4g is compatible and works..
THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE TODAY AS I PURCHASED A SIM FROM EACH PROVIDER ( THIS IS A DUAL SIM PHONE) AND PLACED THEM BOTH IN THE PHONE.. I DID EXTENSIVE RESEARCH>>>
IF ANYONE CAN GET THE PHONE TO DO 4G or 5G ID APPRECIATE THAT INFO>>
ASUS NEEDS TO DO AN UPDAT FAST BEFORE PEOPLE START TO RETURN THIS DEVICE. THIS AGE IS ALL ABOUT 5 G.. THIS PHONE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH USA. I DO NOT SEE HOW AN UPDATE WILL FIX THE PROBLEM SINCE THE PHONE IS ONLY PHYSICALLY CABLE OF A SPECIFIC SET OF BANDS WHICH ARE NOT NOT NOT THE SAME AS USA BANDS
I've asked this question before and I can't find anything.
Can anybody confirm the 0/B/E versions to work on TMobile or att or mvnos of them?
If someone wants to be so kindid appreciate it. Really wanting to buy one for root.
if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.
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if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.
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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.
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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.
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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.
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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.
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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?
The missing of band 71 if using on TMO, is a big loss. I wouldn't bother.
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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?
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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.
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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.
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So to confirm, no signal at all for att/cricket?
What about h20wireless? Redpocket mobile?
What site to use to check compatibility? I'll take slower speeds
To confirm:
1. AT&T blocks your sim right away. Your phone turns into a small tablet. That's it. Nothing you can do about it. I don't bother with smaller companies. I only go for the big boys.
2. T-Mobile will give you slower speed and freedom of root. This comes from my experience. Very little chance I need to use my plan's data. I can't tell the speed is slower at all. As far as carrier's features, I don't use any of them, but I think you can still have them if you change it to proper CSC.
Google search your model then you will find what bands your model support. Then Google search your choice of carrier to see what bands they have. Google is your friend.
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
hyelton said:
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?
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Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?
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All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent
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All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent
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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.
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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.
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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.
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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.
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Ohh ok.
hyelton said:
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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In the end, as @hyelton just said, it all depends on your area, your luck and how you would use your phone... There is no definite answer to the op's question until he figures it out himself. It works for me and I am happy with what I got but that may not apply to everyone else... If the op decides to roll the dice for a chance to get a phone that he can have total freedom over it he can go for it. Otherwise, just buy the one on Samsung website ending with U models and have all of his worries put away. Honestly, I didn't think about any of that when I placed my order.
My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks
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My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks
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My OP was based on the international versions because I absolutely have to have root. I have not owned a phone that I could not have root capabilities in over 10 years.
I don't care so much about 5G I just want to have a phone that functions on a US carrier from overseas. Maybe it got lost in translation but I just want to know what carriers people have and if anybody has the carriers that I mentioned with confirmation or denial of service.
Specifically the carriers on most questioned about are H2O wireless and red pocket. I'm not very Google friendly and so I'm not familiar with the bands I'm used to just buying a phone and it working as intended for my purposes.
^^^ You're overthinking it. Just pull up the bandwidths for the carrier you're looking to utilize and go from there. As mentioned you're better served by going for one of the major carriers and maybe their prepaid services. Remember major carriers prioritize their post paid plans first for their optimum network traffic followed by their own respective prepaid plans and finally the MVNOs. I would stay away from the MVNOs in your scenario if you're importing a handset not configured for the U.S to begin it and degrading it further by using an MVNO.
I'm extremely disappointed and frustrated from my p7p cellular connectivity, especially 3G.
It is almost nonexistent, I tried to flash multiple roms , factory images , different carriers , rooting , with no use.
I tried using network guru to force the modem to use wcdma , with no luck .. I spotted my phone using wcdma UMTS couple of times , so there is no defect in the modem .
I'm always unreachable unless I forced it to use GSM .
Any idea how to resolve it , or workaround it ?
Can I erase modemst1 /2 and check ,or it is risky ?
Please I need help
Are you in the USA? Because 3G is either phased out or will be very soon for most networks.
I have to ask "why" are you trying to use 3G? The phone is capable of 5G and in the event that 5G is spotty you can turn 5G off and use 4G/LTE exclusively which will allow you to make calls and have data access at the same time. 3G is nearly obsolete. YMMV
schmeggy929 said:
Are you in the USA? Because 3G is either phased out or will be very soon for most networks.
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No, I'm in Jordan
jaseman said:
I have to ask "why" are you trying to use 3G? The phone is capable of 5G and in the event that 5G is spotty you can turn 5G off and use 4G/LTE exclusively which will allow you to make calls and have data access at the same time. 3G is nearly obsolete. YMMV
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I know, but here in Jordan ,3g still active for calls , volte is only provided by one carrier. And naturally, you won't be able to call using only lte coz by default, when you make a call , the phone switches from lte to 3g, and when 3g is unavailable it switches to GSM . And it's going to take long time to switch between those bands. I'm mostly unreachable by this process
So by default it's NR/LTE/ wcdma / GSM ..
jaseman said:
I have to ask "why" are you trying to use 3G? The phone is capable of 5G and in the event that 5G is spotty you can turn 5G off and use 4G/LTE exclusively which will allow you to make calls and have data access at the same time. 3G is nearly obsolete. YMMV
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Meanwhile here people have no idea what volte is and carriers dont enable it by default, i have to call them to enable it for me every time i switch a phone. 3G is still the most used network for calls there, even though 4G has even better and more stable coverage. I live in the european union.
I am only familiar with 3G with Verizon in the United States with the US version of the p7p with Verizon modem. The bands associated with 3G Verizon work well when you are outside of major cities and go more rural. But, max speeds of CDMA with Verizon bands are sub optimal at 1mbps. The call quality is great though as the old Verizon commercials "can you hear me now" reflect.