Kind of a weird problem, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one it happens to. If I plug the Transformer into my TV to say, play SNESoid on the big screen, my sixaxis controller stops working. This only happens when I'm using touch profiles within the sixaxis app. Tried to figure out why, and found that my usable screen space changes as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. What I mean is, I get a "dead" space between the bottom of my display, and the action bar at the bottom of the screen. Tried two different brand TVs, different cables, different roms, and different kernels and the problem persists.
I know I'm not fully explaining this, because I can't figure out how to put it into words. If no one has figured out my ramblings by the time I get home from work, I'll take screen shots of the problem and post them up.
hawkxcore said:
Kind of a weird problem, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one it happens to. If I plug the Transformer into my TV to say, play SNESoid on the big screen, my sixaxis controller stops working. This only happens when I'm using touch profiles within the sixaxis app. Tried to figure out why, and found that my usable screen space changes as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. What I mean is, I get a "dead" space between the bottom of my display, and the action bar at the bottom of the screen. Tried two different brand TVs, different cables, different roms, and different kernels and the problem persists.
I know I'm not fully explaining this, because I can't figure out how to put it into words. If no one has figured out my ramblings by the time I get home from work, I'll take screen shots of the problem and post them up.
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I heard that the newest OTA stock update helps. ICS may help. I hear that revolver new update helps but not for my tv at least. I've also heard there are a few new and updated kernals that solve the problem of dead bar space. I have an AOC HDTV so i am probably screwed.
However, turn off touch profiles. You don't need them for emulators. I've played S3&K several nights with the HDMI cable and six axis app with ps3 controller and it works great. I even make the L3 button access the task bar menu so I can load saves and save easily. Very useful for those pesky super emeralds. I have not dabbed with the touch profiles yet so I don't know.
the hdmi output gives out 720p feed and increases the size of the system bar from whatever size it was to 80px high leaving 720px height usable to apps which will resize them and throw off your touch profiles
Ok... so it is a known issue... good. Any idea if the Prime suffers from the same problem?
I would turn off touch profiles, but i cant stand not having analog control in N64oid
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its not an issue it is just that most tv's have a 16x9 resolution so having it use a normal resolution will assure that there are no black bars on the tv
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its not an issue it is just that most tv's have a 16x9 resolution so having it use a normal resolution will assure that there are no black bars on the tv
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Well, you're right, the issue is not the tablet.
[rant] The issue is that my tablet and my laptop are 16:10... My TV is 16:9. My bluray movies are 2.39:1. Half the content on cable is 4:3. On top of that, it would seem no one knows which aspect ratio to scale their content to.
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Hello,
as I was looking for this kind of topic information for a long time and searched through many various topics that are by nature really sounding similar, I though I'd share my experiences on using my mobile as home PC replacement.
This thread is intended as a guide to those that want to do the same. As an idea to those that never considered it and as a collection of issues and workarounds found in the daily use.
Again: This thread does not cover anything like Android ON a Desktop Computer but using your mobile phone as a desktop computer.
In those regards, I'm using one or the other software that is what I found doing its job, but I'm very open to improvements and ideas.
Setup:
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (2,2GHz quadcore, 3GB RAM, SM-9005) and Android Kitkat (Slimkat custom rom) runs on it. USB is MHL compatible.
Other Hardware: Aten CS533 a physical keyboard->Bluetooth Adapter, such that you can use your desktop keyboard and mouse on your Mobile. Which is how I'm writing this text by the way.
If you already know everything or don't care for the rest, read the second and the third post.
Daily driver?
As some custom roms describe their status.... I'm using it as daily driver. I have to rethink many things - the UI being the biggest part. Automation helps to get the connection and screen rotation things off your head.
The phone is being charged while I'm connected to the screen as the Adapter wants to have a power supply.
A big change in UI is that the touch based OS is not working too well with the mouse wheel. In this thread I'm writing I cannot scroll up using the mouse wheel. I'll scroll up the page only. I have to press and hold the mouse (=touch) and pull the content to where I want it.
Deleting characters works as well, but here rather slow. It is better to use CTRL+Shift and cursor buttons to highlight words.
You may also forget about marking text with the mouse as you're used to.
You have to press (=touch) a word and then pull the text markers to whereever.
What works well is the CTRL+X, C and V.
Currently I'm logged into XDA and writing and correcting this text with my external keyboard in firefox.
Which brings me to the most important thing... APPS:
Also there are many differences.... I'm using firefox because it happily accepts keyboard commands - CTRL+T opens a new tab, CTRL+W closes it.
Firefox has one issue which I would bring to the developers... When opened, the shared screen is blank. You can see it on your phone, but not on the TV. Workaround: Switch apps to some other app in foreground, switch back to firefox.
Many apps are better than their web-counterparts. And actually faster. But they often cannot do exactly the same, be aware of that. They offer some features and make it easier to use, but some features you may have been used to, are not available. Example: in the ebay app I can't print out shipping documents.
Roughly mentioned - printing:
There are printing apps included in most OS, you can find them in the store. Mine works fine and I can print on my network printer (don't ask me about USB-printers, I doubt, they work well...).
From my office applications (those accept CTRL+P) I can directly print on my printer, once found. That takes some time, because I switch my printer completely off when not in use.
Chats:
work fine. I can switch, use the mouse to get to the statusbar and open the chat notification, switch back to XDA using ALT+TAB.
Emails:
I was using thunderbird and this one I really miss. I has an unmatched search function. It cans earch globally and it can additionally filter text. Very quick. I have one email account since 13 years. Some emails collected. Here I have troubles.
I want to be able to see all emails offline. This can be difficult as many mail applications don't really give you a choice how many emails to download. K9 and the related kaiten offer this. They can download all mails. However.... This makes the operation in that account slow. Searching doesn't work well and deleting mail leads to app crashes. I'm working with it, because I didn't find a good alternative. Not many people possibly care for that though.
So you see, there are upsides and downsides.
+ Upsides are certainly the purpose driven apps, you have plenty for any kind of purpose. Even you can change the OS layout (If you know linux this is possibly normal anyways )
+ You save money and energy
+ You always have your PC with you
+ One UI everywhere
+ Beter than anyone else you know how to connect your phone to a beamer and do a presentation
Downsides:
- It is a mobile PC. It is using its resources much more efficiently than its desktop alternative. Because it doesn't have many. I wouldn't dare doing video encoding here.
- Surfing is slower - sometimes it seems that is actually because of my phone. I've seen other phones with weaker configurations performing faster than mine. Dolphin seems to perform much faster than Firefox.
- Rethink your input
- Desktop Applications are not possible. If you have one specific type of application you'll have to find an alternative on Android or forget it. Games, Photobook applications, Thunderbird, Blurays, are all kind of difficult...
Additional notes:
There are some interesting projects like Andromium OS that want to change the UI appearance, like a launcher that resembles the desktop Windows/Linux with a start menu. At the current beta state, I personally like my old way better, but it is looking good.
Your choice to accept the downsides. I mostly do.
Sorry for this long and splitted post, but it seems like XDA has a maximum letter count when posting but the post warning doesn't tell you so.
This is the second post, to show some details of the journey...
From the beginning:
Why?
I had a desktop PC, in fact a tablet PC, 18" and was satisfied with it. Linux ran on it quite fine. Over time I noticed that I normally use it for surfing. Not even for something useful. Most things I was using on the PC I found I was using in parallel on Android. For example, ebay, banking, sometimes the browser, funny additions like xkcd, dilbert, chats... List goes on...
Since I know my phone supports MHL, that is using an adapter to get video mirror from phone to TV over HDMI I was looking for a keyboard replacement. Also I heard before keyboards can be used on android.
Soooo I forced myself to actually to that. I sold my PC and while ebay was running I tried to get the needed hardware.
Doing:
In fact it was very easy to find the MHL adapter. I have already a cheap one with a long cable, but sometimes the screen turns blue. Normally that happens when the screen is on, and the device is idle. I thought of buying an original Samsung Adapter.
There is actually no difference, using the Samsung or the cheap one. It seems to be related to the Apps which are in foreground. Here, it is firefox, no issue with it. These days, I don't see that issue anymore. It seems that it is not related to the power supply. Anyways it worked.
A problem was that I want to use my expensive silent keyboard and not buy another bluetooth keyboard. As you may know that if you search for android hardware keyboard you'll find possibly a million ways to use your phone keyboard as input method on the PC (what the heck?). There are a few breadcrumbs leading you to something useful. Once I found a keyboard adapter that translates only my keyboard to Bluetooth, but since my mouse was futile then, I didn't want it. Same reason why I don't want to use OTG. And I'm already using the one USB port on the mobile for the screen mirroring.
Later that evening I found my current solution, working rather good, the Aten CS533. I small docking station like thing that can get two input devices to bluetooth which I can connect the mobile to.
Be careful when using it: My original Logilink mouse didn't work well with it. Scrollwheel moved the pointer up and down. Any mouse movement moved the pointer down, left and right. Sicne it didn't move up, that was, well pointless. I changed the mouse to some generic Dell mouse and this works fine.
Experiences:
SCREEN: Using some automation software normally keeps my phone working well; since the screen on the mobile is always displayed readable on the TV, meaning not upside down or so, the screen if in portrait, fills only the middle third of the TV. To use it properly my automation software says IF connected to the adapter THEN turn on screen rotation. The phone normally lying horizontally. Since this phones resolution matches the TVs, 1080p it looks pretty good.
Look and feel:
It is Android, a touch based OS, unlike Windows or Linux. So your touchscreen is not imitating a mouse, but your mouse is imitating touch input. My mouse buttons all work as touch. Clicking means touching. As far as I know there are no shortcuts here. To start an app you have to do the same actions with your mouse as you would with your finger on the screen. From the home screen open the app drawer by the button, possibly swipe to the app by clicking, holding the mouse button and moving the screen accordingly.
The keyboard is a different thing. I don't know about others, but here are some shortcuts.
The ESC button is my home button, the context menu button maps the phones menu button.
Surprisingly alt+tab work in Android as task switcher, even though I only have the last 8 apps in there and the behaviour is a bit different from the PC. Alt+tab to open the menu, another tab to switch to the second app. And there is some waiting time of possibly half a second.
The keyboard works fine; page up/down, end, pos1, del, backspace, enter work fine. CTRL, alt, Shift are normally mapped. You can use TAB to change input fields as well.
Missing so far is.... the "back" button. I have not found an equivalent of the back button on the keyboard. Since my phone isn't far away, I normally press the phones back button if I need it.
As you see, operating works, even though you have to get used to it. On the other side, it didn't take me too long...
for more details go on with the third post.
Input:
A word on input is required. Keyboard input. What? Again? Well... this is about the keyboard apps you're using. In my case I use swype and I like it most. I hate all software keyboards because their interpretation is weird and their grammar interpretation is often wrong, especially in german.
Swype however recognizes the external keyboard and displays an extra line on the bottom of the screen with the word suggestions I'm typing. Since I'm using a real keyboard I don't want corrections. Since I use the phone often without keyboard, I don't want to switch swype off completely either.
I have another issue which is that I'm typing korean from time to time and up to here I hadn't even thought about it. Swype can do that but still I didn't want to have that extra correction bar. Plus... no idea how to switch the input. The swype input switcher is missing since I'm only having the correction bar.
Quick idea was that I know a very small korean keyboard app so I could possibly switch from swype to the other, while connected to the CS533. Didn't work so well since I still have no way of switching other than the settings - but at least the correction bar is gone.
Here I found the app "External Keyboard Helper" which was written for exactly that. It seems like some people already did what I'm doing, so I wonder why you don't find so many descriptions. Anyways... that app allows you to write normally and change layouts using keyboard shortcuts. Here I'm using CTRL+Shift*space to change to korean layout: 안녕하새요 (Hello)
Anyways... that app allows you to write normally and change layouts using keyboard shortcuts.
I haven't completely looked through the app, but it seems you can get in some keymappings.
So I could map the "back" hard key from the phone to the otherwise useless Windowsbutton. My audio app is rewinding with a keyboard keypress and using shilt+alt+m I can start my mail app.
So now via automation I'm switching the input method to the external keyboard helper, when connected to the CS533 and back to swype when the connection is lost.
This was the last post. Hopefully it is useful for some that are trying to do exactly the same and get sick of those PC remote control apps...
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And this works to. Partly a bit weird to connect.....
But:
From mobile via
OTG
To an sd/hdmi/usb adapter
Hdmi to tv, sd not tested and from
USB to another active usb hub:
The hub connects Gamepad, keyboard and mouse to the android. This is like a cable spider with one plug for the phone. A diving station.
Nice!
Best experience I had with the Dockingstation from Samsung EDD-D200.
Here the phone charges upwards while in use, I have 3 USB ports and Keyboard is recognized well.
HDMI only works at max [email protected], or [email protected] Using apps you can rotate the screen when docked.
Biggest difference is that I REALLY have a docking station. leave HDMI, USB plugged and then just connect the mobile. It should then directly work and the screen is shared to the TV. This is now much more comfortable.
Word of advices:
-for that docking station you'd better have a 5.3V power supply. 5.0V will not make USB or HDMI work.
-there is for the Note 3 another interesting docking station by Samsung, EE-MT800. It has an ethernetport and USB, flexbile connection cable. But the docking station only seems to work on a few tablets, which is a bit sad. It didn't work on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3, even though the MHL3 Adapter from Samsung works flawless ([email protected]).
I used a knife to alter the stand if that docking station so I can place my mobile with the protection cover in it. Works fine now.
Don't get the idea that there's a nice cable in the station which you could extend. It is an extension of the PCB and it is fixed.
I commissioned to Samsung why their docking station ee-mt800 is only compatible to a few tablets. And why you would want to connect a only stand type docking station to a horizontal TV of monitor, resulting in a vertical picture.... And 2/3 blank screen...
I have the model wx na wf, nvidia tablet shield k1 with custom rom cm 12.1 version 2015 11 25.....
The issue im having is that casting audio\screen to chromecast via netflix and youtube the sound is sent. But when i do it via google home app, or directly from the button inside quick settings Cast only the video is sent. Audio remains reproducing in my tablet.
Also noticed If i open vlc with quick settings cast screen the video turns grey. If i cast through google home app, it works ok. But only video, no sound.
Is there a build where this works ok? (Custom rom) i tried cm13 but it was slower and had many features i wont use. Specially the buttons in quick settings were not editable.
This rom 12.1 is perfect if audio could be sent. If there any work around? Please XDA help me!
No. Not yet. No custom ROMs have HDMI audio.
What do you mean? i was not talking about connecting HDMI cable, i was asking for Cast Screen/Audio. When i had cm13 it worked, but i didn't like the quick settings layout that i couldn't edit as in 12.1 and also Root didn't work for Clean Master App Start Manager, so many many apps were autostarting and consuming ram and battery.
I've been having a problem playing B:TPS with the Asus Gamepad. It seems to skip a lot and the controls seem to hang. The game itself will run fine for a few seconds and then slow down drastically and thats when I get the controller hang. The character will continue to move on their own. I noticed that this also happens some times with Minecraft: Pocket Edition. I thought I could live with it but it's really annoying me. The question is; Does anyone know of anything I can do to optimize Borderlands to be smooth through the ingame settings or any external apps to make this run better?
*BUMP*
Anyone having this problem at all?
Hmmm i dont knaow thats the rigth thread but i have same issue with Assassins Creed Black Flag on windows 10 (yeah yeah i know thats the shield subforum). In my position main hero eg. move in random positions and do things with keys that i do not press on gamepad, gamepad do not respond to any of keys, gamepad respond with loooong delay like more than 10sec. I also have a Asus Gamepad (best gamepad IMO but should have vibration and center button like Xkey on xbx controllers) since 3yrs. I do not have troubles like this with hmm Trine game series, Prince of Persia, Assassyn 1/2. Also i saw that on windows 10 it is recognized as a 2 controllers Oo 1. Asus gamepad and 2. Xobox 360 gamepad (may this is a virtual machine made by drivers from Asus site).
I'm trying to resolve that trobule but idk that this is a hardware issue or software one. (i changed my BT reciver to brand new 4.0 class 1 up to 100m and I sit about 2m next to my rig).
Hi guys !
Got an iPega 9023 controller which I use on a daily basis in call of duty.
Connecting and setting up the controller through their app (ShootingPlusV3) and mapping the gamepads buttons on a screen overlay is fairly simple & straightforward and I am able to use the controller as intended.
BUT the problems start when I connect my phone (Huawei P30 Pro) either through a HDMI adapter or use the Wireless Projection mode to cast my screen to another device.
As soon as I cast my screen the overlay no longer matches the actual screen and appears to be tilted at 90⁰.
I even tried using another app that could enable me to set the rotation system wide, but the problem persists.
I have attached some screenshots for a better understanding of the issue.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I am pretty sure I am not the only one encountering this problem and would love to be able to use it while casting on a big screen.