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Experia Z2 vs. OnePlusOne

Ok so I made this thread just to get feed back and basically advice as to which phone I should get. I currently have an iphone 5s and having it was cool and everything but I def. miss the android side of things (not sure why iphones are so much more popular either honestly) and was thinking on getting the Z2 or the one plus. However I've been told that experia devices are a little tougher to root and flash custom roms on. Also Im not sure as to how much support experia devices would have as far as roms kernels and such. What do you guys think?

I'd go onePlus One. MUCH cheaper, stronger raw specs and CM 11s. Can't go wrong with that.

First of all , It is Xperia not Experia
And you should probably get the Xperia Z2
I am not saying that the Xperia Z2 is better but it is because The OnePlus One is only available through an invite system. This means that only people who received an invitation from one of their friends or from OnePlus will be able to buy the device. After buying the device, you will receive a number of invitations that you can send to friends interested in the OnePlus One.
Plus I think accessories and maintenance for the Xperia Z2 will always be much easier to find. so yup Go for the Xperia Z2.

My Thoughts on XPERIA L updates

Hello Guys, Many of us complian about we dont know any Informations yet about an Android 4.3 update.
Today i looked on PTCRB (still nothing new) ,but i looked up the PTCRB page about the XPERIA U (predecessor of the XPERIA L). And it got tons of Certified updates (Most of them are Minor Updates but there are two Major Updates listed) , so i think we should get more than these 6 Updates :angel:
I Have attached an Image about the 2 PTCRB Pages
What do you think about my thoughts let me know !
-sorry for my english

XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Hello Guys, Many of us complian about we dont know any Informations yet about an Android 4.3 update.
Today i looked on PTCRB (still nothing new) ,but i looked up the PTCRB page about the XPERIA U (predecessor of the XPERIA L). And it got tons of Certified updates (Most of them are Minor Updates but there are two Major Updates listed) , so i think we should get more than these 6 Updates :angel:
I Have attached an Image about the 2 PTCRB Pages
What do you think about my thoughts let me know !
-sorry for my english
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The updates are pretty poor and communication from Sony is awful. Why they choose to update Xperia M (underspec'd compared to the L) is beyond me. But then again, they released 4.4 ASOP for L. Maybe if they release a fully functional generic 4.4 ASOP that would heal the wound

honglong said:
The updates are pretty poor and communication from Sony is awful. Why they choose to update Xperia M (underspec'd compared to the L) is beyond me. But then again, they released 4.4 ASOP for L. Maybe if they release a fully functional generic 4.4 ASOP that would heal the wound
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That i dont Understand too, the Xperia M is in every point a much worser Phone than our XPERIA L , why give Sony it an update , we only have an Buggy vesion of 4.2 .B ut your point sounds interresting, Almost all devices from Sony that had become AOSP (except xperia s), became the Update to the Specific
Version from Sony
-Sorry for My English

XperiaAwesome2000 said:
That i dont Understand too, the Xperia M is in every point a much worser Phone than our XPERIA L , why give Sony it an update , we only have an Buggy vesion of 4.2 .B ut your point sounds interresting, Almost all devices from Sony that had become AOSP (except xperia s), became the Update to the Specific
Version from Sony
-Sorry for My English
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I would be happy with 4.4 ASOP without any Sony Junk if Sony can't be bothered to release 4.3
It's not great customer service and it means a very good phone won't become updated and I won't buy Sony again. If they plan to update say so, if it's end of life. Say so.
I have a feeling they will do nothing, wait till 18 months support period has expired then drop it.

honglong said:
I would be happy with 4.4 ASOP without any Sony Junk if Sony can't be bothered to release 4.3
It's not great customer service and it means a very good phone won't become updated and I won't buy Sony again. If they plan to update say so, if it's end of life. Say so.
I have a feeling they will do nothing, wait till 18 months support period has expired then drop it.
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Our phone had been added to the AOSP project months ago but only for unlocked bootloaders, and i hope sony will do something and update our because we spent more money on a better phone and we only get 4.2 if we dont get 4.3/4.4 that would be silly

honglong said:
4.4 ASOP for L.
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Could you explain what that is? Is it some official kitkat rom for xperia l?

XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Our phone had been added to the AOSP project months ago but only for unlocked bootloaders, and i hope sony will do something and update our because we spent more money on a better phone and we only get 4.2 if we dont get 4.3/4.4 that would be silly
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Actually I am almost sure for two things:
Sorry won't release anything more for that expensive brick, because it looks for me that there is more hardware issues and maybe lack of drivers from Qualcomm. Also keep in mind crappy cameras (both of them are awful), totally bad touchscreen and most awful brand - they became more "stay away brand" than chinese ZTE and Huawei brands, which these days here are considered as OK here ...
Personally my Xperia L would not survive to the end of warranty - either it will be sold on half of it's price or will be killed - today it flied ~6 times to the floor,because 9 times sound got routed to earpiece instead of speaker.
Generally this Sony are scammers these days and should not be trusted for anything. Btw this was my last product from Sony - they are gone in my blacklist like HP and Nokia.... got very bad experience with these brands and will never come back to them.

id202 said:
Actually I am almost sure for two things:
Sorry won't release anything more for that expensive brick, because it looks for me that there is more hardware issues and maybe lack of drivers from Qualcomm. Also keep in mind crappy cameras (both of them are awful), totally bad touchscreen and most awful brand - they became more "stay away brand" than chinese ZTE and Huawei brands, which these days here are considered as OK here ...
Personally my Xperia L would not survive to the end of warranty - either it will be sold on half of it's price or will be killed - today it flied ~6 times to the floor,because 9 times sound got routed to earpiece instead of speaker.
Generally this Sony are scammers these days and should not be trusted for anything. Btw this was my last product from Sony - they are gone in my blacklist like HP and Nokia.... got very bad experience with these brands and will never come back to them.
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Okay at the Moment i have no issues with the camera and the Touchscreen maybe i have chosen a good modell of the L, but you are right if Sony wouldnt make updates fort this phone they would become a stay away brand and at the moment Sony must work harder on Updates because they have not much money at the time and that is the Problem of Sony they release too much phones and gave no Updates other brands like Samsung gave the S2 4.1 and at this time the s2 was 2 years old and the arc s Sonys Flagship at the Time never saw 4.1
PS I really like Sony they made good and Products but Support on the Phones they make is really bad

I'll explain you some facts!
If you look at xperia U and Xperia L, they both were updated for about a year. The number of updates for xperia U only means, developers were lazy to fix bugs so they had to push more small patches to fix the bugs!
If you still want to question, xperia L has a month left in comparison to xperia U, I'll like you not to overlook x.x.x.17 update which isn't mentioned in the image!
About xperia M got 4.3 and not xperia L, the reason is that xperia M was released few months after xperia L; thus the support for one year meant, it had to be updated till 4.3 but xperia L had completed its one year when the time to update lower end devices came!
If you are wondering, if we would get 4.4 or 4.3 , it is highly UNLIKELY! Don't put your hopes too high!
The reason why source for 4.4 was released, it was only to shut mouth of xperia L owners so it could seem, Sony is working on 4.4 for xperia L and in the mean time, the time frame of one year of update could pass! 4.4 was supposingly in works for xperia L until, Sony decided to ditch it and released buggy 4.4 so it could work on new devices which were released by Sony like M2, T3 etc.
I hope this enlightenment would be enough for you all!

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So the dream is dead. There is no hope for the humanity after all.

Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!

I Think you all are right sony is an A++hole when it comes to updates but a little chance is there and i hope sony is doing something at the moment

Lazynestor said:
Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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Will there be unofficial android L for experia L? I am afraid of losing my warranty however.

Lazynestor said:
Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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The problem, in my opinion, is that there are tons of people which cannot unlock their bootloader (like me) due to carrier restrictions. We are stuck with stock pretty much forever. And it sucks.

True Story
Emannxx said:
The problem, in my opinion, is that there are tons of people which cannot unlock their bootloader (like me) due to carrier restrictions. We are stuck with stock pretty much forever. And it sucks.
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True ****in story. I spent a ****load of money on this rock and now i cant even flash a custom decent rom, not to talk about the ****tiest stock kernel i've seen in a phone. **** you Sony, **** you carriers and **** you overpriced phones. I bough this for 200 euros and my carrier is asking me 50 more to unlock the carrier status so that i could be able to go to sony and unlock the bootloader. Tell me if this isnt a joke! And remember, its not 250 bucks, its 250 euros, about 340 bucks! WTF???
With this ammount of money i should have bought a nexus 5 and i wouldnt have to care about this problems. never buying a phone in my country again.
Good luck for you guys and i wish the best to all unlocked bootloader. Im seriously thinking about selling my phone if i dont get a proper update.
If sony can afford making phones, they should also be able to give them proper technical support...

Mystery000777 said:
True ****in story. I spent a ****load of money on this rock and now i cant even flash a custom decent rom, not to talk about the ****tiest stock kernel i've seen in a phone. **** you Sony, **** you carriers and **** you overpriced phones. I bough this for 200 euros and my carrier is asking me 50 more to unlock the carrier status so that i could be able to go to sony and unlock the bootloader. Tell me if this isnt a joke! And remember, its not 250 bucks, its 250 euros, about 340 bucks! WTF???
With this ammount of money i should have bought a nexus 5 and i wouldnt have to care about this problems. never buying a phone in my country again.
Good luck for you guys and i wish the best to all unlocked bootloader. Im seriously thinking about selling my phone if i dont get a proper update.
If sony can afford making phones, they should also be able to give them proper technical support...
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Have you contacted Sony and signed the petition?
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RabbiShe said:
Will there be unofficial android L for experia L? I am afraid of losing my warranty however.
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Hell no. We haven't even got 4.3 yet!

BDW there roms for looked bootloader!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!

Lazynestor said:
BDW there roms for looked bootloader!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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Yeha but they all are based on Stock and Stock is not that good
I dont say the roms based on Stock are bad but the Stock 4.2.2 is too buggy

Today's answer from Sorry mobile Bulgaria
Boys and girls (of course!)
Today I have contacted Sorry mobile Bulgaria regarding bug fixing update (I did not pretend for 4.3 or 4.4 - just a bug fixing update, whatever version of Android they want to release) and there was short answer - There is no known date from Sony mobile for update of Xperia L, and there is no known update to come. Rest of message was their usual "Sorry for you troubles, please repair via SUS" and other blah-blah stuff.
Whole Question and answer is in txt file in attachment. If you want to know whole question and answer - feel free to use Google/Bing translate services from Bulgarian....

XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Okay at the Moment i have no issues with the camera and the Touchscreen maybe i have chosen a good modell of the L, but you are right if Sony wouldnt make updates fort this phone they would become a stay away brand and at the moment Sony must work harder on Updates because they have not much money at the time and that is the Problem of Sony they release too much phones and gave no Updates other brands like Samsung gave the S2 4.1 and at this time the s2 was 2 years old and the arc s Sonys Flagship at the Time never saw 4.1
PS I really like Sony they made good and Products but Support on the Phones they make is really bad
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If they produce 3 phones in year and focus on their support for a longer time than release date + 3 months, probably they would get more users, respect from them and of course - more profit. With their policy to release bunch of garbage every month, they won't get any new customers and they are already on path to lose their old customers. I am personally one of big count of users which will never come back to SoRRy - there is simple explanation: New Xperia L on store are sold for 345BGN without contract, Xperia L sold on second hand sites with ~1 year and more warranty left is sold at 180-200BGN. My 4 years old HTC Desire on same second hand sites costs 100-180BGN depending on how it looks. BGN - stands fro New Bulgarian Leva (I am Bulgarian).

When will we get Nougat on our xperia XA???,

Hey everyone! According to the the Sony update roadmap Sony Xperia XA was supposed to be updated sometime in early 2017 (Jan-March) but it's May now.. I want the update asap Does anyone knows when will we get update????? thank you!

Samsung has already rolled out the Nougat update for Galaxy A5 (2016) users in Russia, it is also important to note that Sammy's version of Android is more customized than Sony's.
So this is how Sony treats consumers who bought their mid-range phones, my next Android phone is going to be either a Pixel or a Samsung one.

Sony is awful with support for mid range phones.Check at this we really are the last ones to get it!
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaxa/kb/8019307401646073d015693290721003ab2/

akasagi.phan said:
Samsung has already rolled out the Nougat update for Galaxy A5 (2016) users in Russia, it is also important to note that Sammy's version of Android is more customized than Sony's.
So this is how Sony treats consumers who bought their mid-range phones, my next Android phone is going to be either a Pixel or a Samsung one.
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I agree with you. My previous experience with Sony is good actually. I had a Flagship though.. (Xperia Z3). Pixel isn't officially available here in UAE. They are available here unofficially but they would cost me around whopping 800-900$! I won't switch to Samsung because I prefer Stock UI and Sony's UI. I thought of switching to Huawei but they aren't good with the Software updates either. (Security patches..). I would switch to Nokia 6 or 5 whenever its available at my place.

Siam4k said:
Sony is awful with support for mid range phones.Check at this we really are the last ones to get it!
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaxa/kb/8019307401646073d015693290721003ab2/
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I know right.. According to a 'Leaked' Roadmap we were supposed to get nougat in 'Early 2017' and now almost half of the 2017 has passed away.

KásHiF said:
I know right.. According to a 'Leaked' Roadmap we were supposed to get nougat in 'Early 2017' and now almost half of the 2017 has passed away.
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Yes it's soo frustrating!! But Coming soon, patient i think all flagships should get Nougat and Sony will realise the update for XA.it's sony policy about their mid range phones.no guat will improve battery performance and camera quality plus software update to make Xperia XA Dual VoLTE compatible on Jio network and etc...

Siam4k said:
Yes it's soo frustrating!! But Coming soon, patient i think all flagships should get Nougat and Sony will realise the update for XA.it's sony policy about their mid range phones.no guat will improve battery performance and camera quality plus software update to make Xperia XA Dual VoLTE compatible on Jio network and etc...
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Jio network? What's that? Oh yeah. They will release nougat for XA in 1-5 weeks :

akasagi.phan said:
Samsung has already rolled out the Nougat update for Galaxy A5 (2016) users in Russia, it is also important to note that Sammy's version of Android is more customized than Sony's.
So this is how Sony treats consumers who bought their mid-range phones, my next Android phone is going to be either a Pixel or a Samsung one.
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Agree with you. This is a big disappointment from Sony. I had a Xperia M2 Aqua and the Lollipop update didn't take so long (like 2 months). Also this phone has a lot of bugs (the battery drain, some xposed modules make crash the phone, apps like YouTube sometimes stop working). My next phone will be a Galaxy, Sony's phone quality decreased the last years.

Evedammo said:
Agree with you. This is a big disappointment from Sony. I had a Xperia M2 Aqua and the Lollipop update didn't take so long (like 2 months). Also this phone has a lot of bugs (the battery drain, some xposed modules make crash the phone, apps like YouTube sometimes stop working). My next phone will be a Galaxy, Sony's phone quality decreased the last years.
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Scamsung mid-range devices are not better and have some problems too. If you compare XA with S7 or S8 you will make me laugh for hours.

Evedammo said:
Agree with you. This is a big disappointment from Sony. I had a Xperia M2 Aqua and the Lollipop update didn't take so long (like 2 months). Also this phone has a lot of bugs (the battery drain, some xposed modules make crash the phone, apps like YouTube sometimes stop working). My next phone will be a Galaxy, Sony's phone quality decreased the last years.
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Think you'll find the lollipop update for the m2 took almost 6mths to arrive from it being announced(may) to it actually arriving (beginning of October). The Nougat update for the xa is its final update so don't expect it before the device is at least a year on the market it'll probably arrive in the autumn some time
Sent from my Xperia XA using XDA Labs

Annoyingly they'll probably give us 7.0 and not 7.1, all this delay and still not the very latest version. Though only time will tell-my XA is running flawlessly on MM.

Lesson Learned!
Last Sony device I purchase! Never seen such terrible support and developers. If I had missed deadlines by several months, I would no longer be working where I currently work. Unacceptable!

Most Anticipated New Phones Fall (Q3) 2018

This fall has much to offer in the way of new phones. I currently use a Sony Xperia XA2 5.2" single-sim US device as my daily driver. I preordered it because my old SM-N910T decided to stop charging in February. I like it, but there's a few things I miss about my Note 4, like the camera. I actually want to upgrade, but I feel like I should wait until the fall, since there's so many promising devices being released.
I'm not even close to making up my mind on which, but from what I understand so far, I've narrowed my next flagship to the following in no particular order:
1) Google Pixel 3
2) Samsung Galaxy Note 9
3) Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium
4) Razer Phone 2
5) HTC U12+
^^These are my top picks. BUT, I wanted to know what other devices the XDA community may be anticipating and what new features they're looking forward to..

Get the XZP or XZ1?

Hi,
I am thinking to get a used xzp or an xz1. I don't care much between their sizes but I do care for camera updates/features (and os updates). Which one would you go with?
Thanks!

If you care about software, then go for the XZ1. It has Treble, it has display flash and a new Dialer UI. The camera performance is the same as with the XZ P.

The XZP is a bigger phone and has a 4K HDR display. If you care about that then go XZP.

I think xz1 is appropriate.Xz1 is born with Oreo(8),but Xzp is born with Nougat(7).According to reliable news,Sony smartphone can update two system version,so xz1 can update to Android 10,but xzp can only update to Android 9, despite they have same CPU.
Forgive my grammar mistakes, after all, I'm a senior middle school student in China.

耶和华 said:
According to reliable news,Sony smartphone can update two system version,so xz1 can update to Android 10,but xzp can only update to Android 9
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I would never look at that. When the official support is over, you root the phone and install custom Firmware.
I have Xperia V, which was released with 4.0 and got updated to 4.3, I own an Xperia ZR that began its path with 4.1 and ended on 5.0, and today both devices happily run 7.1.2.
You're on XDA DEVELOPERS FORUM, what the hell are you talking about, buying a different device instead of the one you want, because it's going to have 6 months less support? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
p.s. never apologize for your English until you're told you're bad at it. Most of the people who speak English are not native to English language anyway. Like myself, and most of the people at this forum.

saved-j said:
p.s. never apologize for your English until you're told you're bad at it. Most of the people who speak English are not native to English language anyway. Like myself, and most of the people at this forum.
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I agree, most people on the Sony forums on xda has "poor" English. Mostly because Sony phones are more popular in Asia and EU than they are in the US. So the majority of Sony users are not native English speakers.

nahsha said:
Hi,
I am thinking to get a used xzp or an xz1. I don't care much between their sizes but I do care for camera updates/features (and os updates). Which one would you go with?
Thanks!
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Get the XZ Premium. I'm a happy XZP user and i would recommed it to anyone looking to upgrade to a good Oreo phone. It might not get the "P" android update but it is a reliable phone, it does take good picture and 2 days battery( 4g/h+ or wifi always on, 2+ hours of music and video streaming per day, social networking, internet browsing, but no games). Only thing i wish it was louder: speakers volume. I never tried the XZ1 but just like you i had to choose betwwen the two and you know what i picked.

ross23 said:
The XZP is a bigger phone and has a 4K HDR display. If you care about that then go XZP.
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Only 4k in the album and video app, the XZ2 premium have a 4k display.

vader20 said:
Get the XZ Premium. I'm a happy XZP user and i would recommed it to anyone looking to upgrade to a good Oreo phone. It might not get the "P" android update but it is a reliable phone, it does take good picture and 2 days battery( 4g/h+ or wifi always on, 2+ hours of music and video streaming per day, social networking, internet browsing, but no games). Only thing i wish it was louder: speakers volume. I never tried the XZ1 but just like you i had to choose betwwen the two and you know what i picked.
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100% agreed here go for XZP.. .... thing is OP Youll find almost all phones nowadays are 2 years OS updates, 3 yrs security, including Google due to the fact that alot of people, at one time, tended to change their phones every year..
However, now-a-days in 2017 and more-so now in 2018... more and more people are holding onto their older devices, due to flagships being far too expensive (iPhone X, Galaxy Note 9, Xperia XZ2Prem..etc) and the so-called "Updates and New Flagships" features are so small and incremental.. that the huge prices dont justify these "little" upgrades...
Ive just come back to SONY after a break, with a Pre-owned, yet BNIB XZP... and while the camera is a little quirky and requires some tinkering to get the best out of it (I found using the hardware camera shutter button on the XZP caused camera shake and focus issues on images.. no matter how steady I held it, but pressing the "Virtual" shutter button on screen produced much better results.. )... Its a fantastic device.. still getting 6 weekly - 2 Monthly updates, great screen, Speakers are excellent and much louder now on Oreo than they were under 7 Nougart.. although could be even louder, 3.5mm Jack.. battery life is good..
And we will "eventually", get Android P...
https://theleaker.com/sony-xperia-android-p-9-0-update/
Worth the cost over an XZ1

Hi,
I already got the Xperia xz almost new for 250$ CDN.
The main reason is that xz is dowmgradeable to 6 (for drm keys backup)
Android P is okay but based on what I was reading in the past it was only a possibility for the XZP..
Battery wise Android 6 is way better though but for now I'm enjoying 8.
Thx

nahsha said:
Hi,
I already got the Xperia xz almost new for 250$ CDN.
The main reason is that xz is dowmgradeable to 6 (for drm keys backup)
Android P is okay but based on what I was reading in the past it was only a possibility for the XZP..
Battery wise Android 6 is way better though but for now I'm enjoying 8.
Thx
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Good to hear you got sorted... The xz is a great device, I know it's still being updated like the premium... i don't really go for downgrading or custom ROMs myself though, and the screen is a little on the small side for me...
Enjoy ?