Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.
notslow1 said:
Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.
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Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
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Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
dottat said:
Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
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notslow1 said:
Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
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Zero other options. If you want root on your phone it's your only option.
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Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.
notslow1 said:
Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.
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I would S-OFF on KK then take the OTA to 5.0.1
That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).
notslow1 said:
That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).
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You do realize that without s-off your root will be pretty worthless for most things thanks to write protection in place right?
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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
notslow1 said:
I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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I'll add to the choir here. Do yourself a favor and get s-off before doing anything. Weaksauce works but the changes only last until you reboot. With s-off, you can do anything. And yes, Titanium Backup will restore your apps and data. As for the tethering, you can flash a rom that has it enabled or you can just run stock and "unlock" it yourself. It's a simple edit of a file. It's well worth the $25 it costs. Do it if you can.
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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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We are all new at some point in time and if there is anything I can suggest it is to listen to dottat. The kat knows his biz.
That $50 you "can't afford" . When you take one of those OTA updates unintentionally and then realize that not even $5000 can get you the s-off you so desperately desire for TB, tethering, or whatever your fancy is....it's pennies my good friend. You are so very lucky to be on KK, as that can still be dealt with. LP is another animal. To my knowledge there has been no way to get s-off/unlock bootloader. Take it form me, a flash junkie - you want s-off. You want an unlocked bootloader. You want root. Once you have it you never go back.
Otherwise you should have gotten an iphone.
These words are not to meant to condescend or talk down, it is to encourage you to take what you can while you still can.
I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/help/verizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
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I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...rizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
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You won't be able to do what you want.
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I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
I'm not sure how you got that out of the last sentence ....Did you read all of the post? :
"We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
Your phones are yours to do with as you choose of course, but if you want to take advantage of TB and tethering in the manner in which you hope to, you'll need s-off. As dottat has pointed out once again, and as I've already said, you've come this far and you are lucky enough to have found two phones with the 4.x firmware still on them, you'd be throwing all that away in the HOPES that one day you can get that exploit - and you'll STILL have to pay $25 for it IF they do.
I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
notslow1 said:
I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
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The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
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dottat said:
The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
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! What he said!
Both the M8 and M9 are unleashed after you have them S-0ffed. In addition to getting Wifi Tether,
you can modify things like Power Saver settings and other fun things. You can experiment with things
safely and obtain a faster phone that gets better battery life than bloated stock.
Devs post great custom roms that you can sample. Honestly, I like the 'new' look of my phone rotating
thru the different roms available here on xda.
Def worth the effort to S-0ff.
I got both phones S-off this week. I'm going to install dottat's prerooted 5.0.1 on them now. Crossing my fingers that I do it right.
Just want to thank everyone that posted for the great advice.
Me and my girlfriend can't wait to get on some modern phones, we're using droid 4 and droid razr that are grinding to a halt and barely function.
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hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
There are no OTA updates as of yet. Those on 1.85 are on it because they ran the leaked RUU.
Unless you know what you're doing don't bother updating to .85 because you can lose all root/bootloader/CID to let you do as you please because theres no current exploit. Its also been reported by people [and me] that you get lower CPU benchmark scores via Quadrant for example, although a faster / snappier phone. A couple people have also said its more sluggish now for them but I believe thats based on what they have running [I use one home screen + no widgets].
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
chillsen said:
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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thank you for that key info. will not be ota'ing until xda squad cracks it alllll!
Basically ... NO!
chillsen said:
hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
Is it safe to assume, that if people who flashed leaked ruu's don't get ota's then some of the devs will release ruu's of the newest ota's ?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
PeterHTC said:
Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
I know the feeling
patstock11 said:
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
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Same with me - waiting for root for 1.85 - nothing much we can do at this point! Sounds like there are quite a few of us stuck in Limbo.
Just keep watching the forums and waiting for Root!
Mike
Not really ...
iElvis said:
That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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So you're suggesting that the root = no OTA is One X (or HTC) specific? Where did you hear that?
FWIW, I've got that app installed and it successfully saved a su copy.
PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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Sorry, but you are wrong. If you are rooted and nothing else, you CAN and will receive OTA updates, for most devices. I've heard many accounts of people being rooted and then updating OTA and losing root, and getting it back after a while after a new exploit was found. Now, if you use custom ROMs or anything, that changes things, but just rooting doesn't do anything. Think about it, you aren't changing the ROM or the way it connects to AT&T's servers. You are just exploiting a vulnerability and gaining root access. Now, AT&T may have found a way to detect root, but as far as I know they don't and with only a root, OTA updates can be installed. Although any post-root modification might screw that up.
Okay... now that I have everyone's attention...
Here is the deal... in between a series of insane work trips my Mom comes over and says she just bought a new One X, and can I set it up for her.
I am pretty comfortable with this stuff, or at least following directions , but I am seriously pressed for time.
I started reading last night and think I have a pretty good handle on what and where, but want to confirm I am on the right path...
Phone is currently on 4.0.3 with version 1.85.502.3
I have zero plans to load custom ROMs on this since all my Mom needs is stability, but I want to root so that I can get in TiBu, clean out the bloat, setup a backup schedule and so on.
I have read a couple of comments that the 2.2 software gives better battery life and a few other improvements, so would not mind putting that on.
I have not gotten any OTA update notifications since I turned the phone on.
What is my best path?
Can I simply root the device using these instructions http://briefmobile.com/how-to-root-htc-one-x-att and then install the rooted stock 2.2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459
Sorry for the dummy questions, but I am leaving for another work trip tomorrow AM and was hoping to get this done, although to be perfectly honest it is not as if she wont have a working phone, but if I can do this all up front then I can let her play around with it, customize etc and not have to redo it all when I get back.
THANKS for your help!
post pics and I'll help.
bloodrain954 said:
post pics and I'll help.
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Of my mom? classy!
Did you copy paste the title from brazzers.com clips?
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I would defo flash CleanROM 4.5 stand for her.
lazarat said:
Did you copy paste the title from brazzers.com clips?
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I guess I should have known better... felt bad posting noobish questions I can figure out if I spend a bunch of time reading, but really short on time right now, so figured I would try to be funny and hopefully generate more views and quicker responses.
For what it is worth my Mom is 67... I am not 17 and this is not a MILF scenario...
thcue said:
I would defo flash CleanROM 4.5 stand for her.
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Right... I don't want to flash custom... stick with stock... I have no time to update customs or to act as tech support when things inevitably go wrong with a custom.
dcdivenut said:
Right... I don't want to flash custom... stick with stock... I have no time to update customs or to act as tech support when things inevitably go wrong with a custom.
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Believe me man you would want to how much bloat and crap that att throws on the phone. Might as well give her something worth having the rom is very stable and would never have to fix it for her.
Also after you install TWRP for her (the recovery) Make sure to make a nano backup of her stock image then flash with CleanROM and make one of that to. So if she ever has a issue she is just one click away from a new phone.:good:
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Right... I don't want to flash custom... stick with stock... I have no time to update customs or to act as tech support when things inevitably go wrong with a custom.
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I think the problem is that if you're going to root anyway, you've already made it so she can't stay current on the "official" path.
I've found CleanROM to be far more stable than AT&T's PoS.
dcdivenut said:
Of my mom? classy!
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just replying as per title
bloodrain954 said:
post pics and I'll help.
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Lmao!!
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I must.. refrain from Googling sexy old ladies and relying to the tread must resist the urge.... :angel:
dcdivenut said:
this is not a MILF scenario...
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Dont make it then
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thebobmannh said:
I think the problem is that if you're going to root anyway, you've already made it so she can't stay current on the "official" path.
I've found CleanROM to be far more stable than AT&T's PoS.
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+1000.
You'll never know it isn't stock sense/att except that all the apps which, if she clicks them she'll get charged additional usage for, are gone.
FWIW, ATT's OTA isn't anything special. My phone was three months old and was still running 1.73. Never succeeded in an OTA update.
So, CleanROM 4.5 was a huge improvement.
I would say that, if she is not totally interested in Modding, that she should either leave it with all stock ,or switch to CleanROM. I am running CleanROM because I like the stock feel, although I have modded a few things. I also liked the removale of bloatware. I feel that the best place for rooting your One X is on onexroot.com. just make sure you choose the right ROM and root method depending on your model, such as international AT&T, or Rodgers. Hope this helps!
dcdivenut said:
Okay... now that I have everyone's attention...
Here is the deal... in between a series of insane work trips my Mom comes over and says she just bought a new One X, and can I set it up for her.
I am pretty comfortable with this stuff, or at least following directions , but I am seriously pressed for time.
I started reading last night and think I have a pretty good handle on what and where, but want to confirm I am on the right path...
Phone is currently on 4.0.3 with version 1.85.502.3
I have zero plans to load custom ROMs on this since all my Mom needs is stability, but I want to root so that I can get in TiBu, clean out the bloat, setup a backup schedule and so on.
I have read a couple of comments that the 2.2 software gives better battery life and a few other improvements, so would not mind putting that on.
I have not gotten any OTA update notifications since I turned the phone on.
What is my best path?
Can I simply root the device using these instructions http://briefmobile.com/how-to-root-htc-one-x-att and then install the rooted stock 2.2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459
Sorry for the dummy questions, but I am leaving for another work trip tomorrow AM and was hoping to get this done, although to be perfectly honest it is not as if she wont have a working phone, but if I can do this all up front then I can let her play around with it, customize etc and not have to redo it all when I get back.
THANKS for your help!
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2.20 breaks root if you go with the stock RUU. So you are going to be unlocking the bootloader and going off the "official" path anyway. Which means you will have to periodically update your mother's phone anyways and she will software warranty.
I would go with one of three options:
1. Root/Unlock and flash CleanROM 4.5 (you will have to update her phone every so often and she loses software warranty)
2. Root, stay with 1.85 and de-bloat (don't really recommended because of multitask issue)
3. Don't root, leave phone stock and stay on the official path (if you don't have the time to maintain your mother's phone go with this)
Actually, if you root &unlock bootloader now, flash a custom recovery, you can manually update the firmware to 2.2x, flash back your stock recovery and relock it you have a fully updated, stock device that you can always go back and unlock if u want to later.
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Butters619 said:
2.20 breaks root if you go with the stock RUU. So you are going to be unlocking the bootloader and going off the "official" path anyway. Which means you will have to periodically update your mother's phone anyways and she will software warranty.
I would go with one of three options:
1. Root/Unlock and flash CleanROM 4.5 (you will have to update her phone every so often and she loses software warranty)
2. Root, stay with 1.85 and de-bloat (don't really recommended because of multitask issue)
3. Don't root, leave phone stock and stay on the official path (if you don't have the time to maintain your mother's phone go with this)
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True that for root on 2.20, you will need to unlock the bootloader anyway, so you may as well go ahead and root, SuperCID and unlock bootloader.
A 4th option would be to flash a stock rooted 2.20, 2.23, or 2.29 ROM (after unlocking the bootloader). Honestly, the 2.2X stock ROMs are quite good, and you won't really need to update the phone much after that; really mostly if you just want to.
Personally, I would suggest either leaving as-is on 1.85, and root and debloat; or unlock the bootloader and flash either a rooted stock 2.2X ROM, or custom ROM that does not divert too much from stock 2.2X (like CleanROM).
Updating to 2.20 the "official" way is just robbing yourself of any other options, until (if and when) a root method is found for 2.20. Personally recommend you stay away from that.
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dcdivenut said:
I have zero plans to load custom ROMs on this since all my Mom needs is stability,
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Custom ROMs have a huge variation in their stability. Sure, ROMs which are AOSP have some things broken, and ones based on the leading edge (Jellybean) have issues too, since they are ports, do not fully support our hardware, etc.
But many of the ROMs you will see in Development are based stock ROMs, with bloat removed, performance tweaks, and some features added, without any real drastic changes. CleanROM, King Cobra among others actually run smoother and more stable than stock. Don't knock all custom ROMs, especially since you haven't even tried any on this device.
CleanROM 4.5 is better than stock. It's the best rom I have ever flashed on any device ever.
Hi all,
I have an AT&T One X. The bootloader is unlocked but is S-ON. I want to return this phone to as close as stock as possible. This phone is destined to go to another user who knows nothing of rooting and such so I don't care if it is rooted or not.
I understand I have to relock the bootloader to be able to flash an RUU right? Hboot is currently at 1.14.002, Radio is at 0.19as.32.09.11_2. TWRP 2.3.1.0 is installed.
The phone is currently running Cleanrom 6.5 and all works fine. I just want this back to as close to AT&T stock as possible so that the user I am giving the phone to will not have any problems.
If I relock the bootloader can I return this to stock via the most recent AT&T 3.18 RUU located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191477 or is there something else I need to do first?
Thanks for all your help.
Tersanyus said:
Hi all,
I have an AT&T One X. The bootloader is unlocked but is S-ON. I want to return this phone to as close as stock as possible. This phone is destined to go to another user who knows nothing of rooting and such so I don't care if it is rooted or not.
I understand I have to relock the bootloader to be able to flash an RUU right? Hboot is currently at 1.14.002, Radio is at 0.19as.32.09.11_2. TWRP 2.3.1.0 is installed.
The phone is currently running Cleanrom 6.5 and all works fine. I just want this back to as close to AT&T stock as possible so that the user I am giving the phone to will not have any problems.
If I relock the bootloader can I return this to stock via the most recent AT&T 3.18 RUU located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191477 or is there something else I need to do first?
Thanks for all your help.
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You'll need to S-OFF first or you'll brick.
There's a howto on the original android development section.
exad said:
You'll need to S-OFF first or you'll brick.
There's a howto on the original android development section.
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Just flash a stock rooted Rom. Most users won't even know it's rooted. And having a custom recovery (even if they don't know they have it) can help if there is ever an issue. S-off so in the future if there's a update it won't brick the phone.
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31ken31 said:
Just flash a stock rooted Rom. Most users won't even know it's rooted. And having a custom recovery (even if they don't know they have it) can help if there is ever an issue. S-off so in the future if there's a update it won't brick the phone.
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I agree, except for leaving it rooted. I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU, this way the buyer doesn't get shocked or confused if an app asks for root access, but has the option to do whatever they want to their phone if they so decide.
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I agree, except for leaving it rooted. I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU, this way the buyer doesn't get shocked or confused if an app asks for root access, but has the option to do whatever they want to their phone if they so decide.
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I forgot about su access prompt. That could be a shocker lol
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I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU.
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I agree. Couple reasons (both related to RUU). If the new user for some reason needs to recover the phone, and runs the RUU (not unheard of, HTC support will sometimes direct customers to do this), that person will either:
1) Brick the phone, if its left as SuperCID and S-on
2) If S-on (but CID is changed back), and bootloader is left unlocked, the RUU won't run. The person will have no idea why, and will likely be stuck.
S-off solves both of these potential issues. If you are at all worried about the next user. I would S-off, then run the RUU to return the phone to stock. The only thing that would be "not stock" is unlocked bootloader and S-off. But neither of these will mean anything or affect a less experienced user.
I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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Fair point. Switching the phone back to the AT&T CID and locking the bootloader might be the best alternative. Then run the RUU to get it back on stock recovery and ROM.
Giving/selling the phone to an unsuspecting noob with SuperCID and S-on just seems like a bad idea. Worse than S-off.
iElvis said:
I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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I've seen bricks after RUUing, even after changing the CID back to default.. It's a toss up I guess. Typically, when I sell my phone or hacked device, I just sell it as being hacked this way people know what they are getting into. Advertising as such has never hindered my ability to sell it either.
redpoint73 said:
Fair point. Switching the phone back to the AT&T CID and locking the bootloader might be the best alternative. Then run the RUU to get it back on stock recovery and ROM.
Giving/selling the phone to an unsuspecting noob with SuperCID and S-on just seems like a bad idea. Worse than S-off.
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I didn't mean leaving it supercid--that is obviously a risk.
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I've seen bricks after RUUing, even after changing the CID back to default.. It's a toss up I guess. Typically, when I sell my phone or hacked device, I just sell it as being hacked this way people know what they are getting into. Advertising as such has never hindered my ability to sell it either.
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That's kind of my point. Selling it rooted is fine, just represent it for what it is. You shouldn't give a modified phone to someone who doesn't know what that even means.
The phone is going to a friend who has a Pantech Burst currently. As someone mentioned I didn't want them to get a SuperSU prompt for root access and have no idea what that means. I tried a stock rooted rom but it kept rebooting. I did factory reset/data wipe and reloaded the rom twice but still kept doing it. I thought it odd too. Cleamrom is acting just fine though.
After hard bricking a Droid DNA which I don't know if it was due to being unlocked and such I'm starting to feel rooting and custom roms isn't for me anymore. The Droid DNA was replaced and the replacement was never unlocked (and since it has most recent software it couldn't be unlocked. Don't get me wrong, I love not running stock devices. It's such a great feeling to get rid of all that carrier added bloat that I most liked.
I've actually moved on from the DNA as well. I'm on a One now from AT&T as my primary phone. And I so hate all that AT&T bloat in there. It's all disabled but still seeing it there just sends chills down my spine.
So now I am not so sure what to do about the One X now. My original thought was RUU back to factory and relock the bootloader and keep S-ON. That way if someone did look they'd only see "RELOCKED".
Makes me miss the easy days when I used a Captivate and Note 1. Those were so easy to use custom roms on.
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I didn't mean leaving it supercid--that is obviously a risk.
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Your previous post didn't explicitly say anything about that, one way or another. So I was just clarifying for the benefit of the OP. I knew what you meant, but wanted to make sure the OP did, too!
I'm getting m8 next week and I'm coming from m7
but I haven't rooted since I owned dna so it has been over 6 months.
So I need to re-learn the process of rooting and s-off.
My questions are
1. Since I have no idea what the software number would be, do we have a root method and s-off method for the latest ota?
2. Is there cm11 rom available? I can't find one in the development section.
Good choice. Now for question 1 I would look into a program called SunShine I believe that should work for you just make sure that you have all your drivers installed. As for question 2 go to Cyanogenmod look in downloads for M8 they are nighty's. You will have to get your gapps too. But DON'T forget to make a backup of your stock rom.
foamerman said:
Good choice. Now for question 1 I would look into a program called SunShine I believe that should work for you just make sure that you have all your drivers installed. As for question 2 go to Cyanogenmod look in downloads for M8 they are nighty's. You will have to get your gapps too. But DON'T forget to make a backup of your stock rom.
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Thanks for the quick reply. For using Sunshine, I need to be rooted first right?
Do I use weaksauce or towelroot for rooting?
One more question.
Do I get custom recovery after root or after s-off?
qudwis said:
Thanks for the quick reply. For using Sunshine, I need to be rooted first right?
Do I use weaksauce or towelroot for rooting?
One more question.
Do I get custom recovery after root or after s-off?
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1. No you don't.
2. Either one will work I believe.
3. Yes you can get TWRP or CWM immediately after S-OFF(comes with bootloader unlock too).
Sorry for the bland response, low on time.
>>>>>Sunshine link; http://theroot.ninja/<<<<<
qudwis said:
I'm getting m8 next week and I'm coming from m7
but I haven't rooted since I owned dna so it has been over 6 months.
So I need to re-learn the process of rooting and s-off.
My questions are
1. Since I have no idea what the software number would be, do we have a root method and s-off method for the latest ota?
2. Is there cm11 rom available? I can't find one in the development section.
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FYI not mentioned is the $25 price tag that comes with sunshine.. Worth it if you are wanting root and soff though.
Nope. Thank you very much!
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
1. No you don't.
2. Either one will work I believe.
3. Yes you can get TWRP or CWM immediately after S-OFF(comes with bootloader unlock too).
Sorry for the bland response, low on time.
>>>>>Sunshine link; http://theroot.ninja/<<<<<
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Thanks
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Nope. Thank you very much!
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Is this a nope no thanks not wanting to pay for soff? Only reason I ask is because there are people with newer firmware that are able to still use the free method called firewater. From what I gather reason for firewater working for some and not others is due to variances in specific hardware used from one production of this device to another. I liken this to say an HP computer you model number could match mine but if production for my desktop included a generic component because HP found a way to save 5$ with each unit in my batch but you got a different componant with yours there is a slight variance in the hardware. I have worked in or around the computer industry since I was 12 and honestly never thought about this but it makes sense that if a specific instruction calls for a specific rresponse one responds differently thennwhat is expected the process would have to stop. This is a great device and worth the $$ if firewater is unable to be used IMHO.
There seems to be no possible way to root a Verizon HTC device now. I'm trying to root my M8 and every avenue I've tried, it's apparently impossible.
Sunshine didn't work.
Everyone says weak sauce no longer works.
HTCdev site didn't work.
I always run into the fact that I can't S-Off.
So... Is there now no possible way to root a Verizon HTC M8?
The main reason I want to root is for battery life. I'm desperate. I want the old battery saver feature back, that Verizon removed in the Marshmallow update. Losers. Why you eliminate such a helpful tool from a phone escapes me. Utter nonsense.
So, now I'm faced with the decision. Root my M8, or buy a new phone. Thing is, I'm not ready to upgrade. But I can't seem to find a way to root!
If anyone can offer ANY help here, I would be greatly, greatly, appreciative. My M8's battery is not what it used to be.
Are you trying to s-off or root? Root doesn't require s-off
If you are trying to get back to lollipop (since you don't seem happy with MM), s-off is required.
Sunshine worked fine for me, what error are you getting?
For Verizon M8, sunshine is your only real option unless you find someone in your area with a javacard. Htcdev and weaksauce won't work.
avg2424 said:
Are you trying to s-off or root? Root doesn't require s-off
If you are trying to get back to lollipop (since you don't seem happy with MM), s-off is required.
Sunshine worked fine for me, what error are you getting?
For Verizon M8, sunshine is your only real option unless you find someone in your area with a javacard. Htcdev and weaksauce won't work.
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Well, I first tried the dev site. Went through all the steps and then it said I had to do the whole s-off procedure, but I wasn't able to because Verizon doesn't allow it anymore supposedly.
So then I tried Sunshine. It essentially ran the temp boot, my phone reboots, and then... Nothing. Nothing happens. I go back to sunshine and it just restarts all the tests again and asks for a temp root. Going in circles basically...
I'm lost. But there's got to be a way...
I'd rather not have to go back to 5.1, because I like have Sense 7 with MM. But if I can't root and am faced with no other option, I will entertain the idea. At the end of the day, my battery life is more important to me than themes or just about anything else.
You can send it off to someone with a Java Card like us VZW M9 members have done/are doing.
Here is the thread, the OP shows a map where the ppl are located, you may get lucky and be able to meet someone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247
andybones said:
You can send it off to someone with a Java Card like us VZW M9 members have done/are doing.
Here is the thread, the OP shows a map where the ppl are located, you may get lucky and be able to meet someone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247
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That is really my last option.
I suppose this confirms it then: there really is no way to root a Verizon M8. Least ways, not without some special 'card'.
Warrior VII said:
That is really my last option.
I suppose this confirms it then: there really is no way to root a Verizon M8. Least ways, not without some special 'card'.
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I just confirmed that there is..
Up until about a month ago Sunshine worked.
MM just came out, you never want to take an OTA if you aren't rooted and don't know if the new OTA is rootable.
My suggestion is to just send it out.
I did it with my M9.
It's 100% worth it, you will be rooted and S-OFF with bootloader unlocked all the goodies, all the guys are great, usually get it done and sent back out the same day. You pay for shipping to and from and they can't charge so you toss them a "donation".
Warrior VII said:
That is really my last option.
I suppose this confirms it then: there really is no way to root a Verizon M8. Least ways, not without some special 'card'.
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You can send it my way and I will do it for you. Mail via USPS priority mail isn't bad at all.
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dottat said:
You can send it my way and I will do it for you. Mail via USPS priority mail isn't bad at all.
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Is it not something you could walk me through or do remotely?
Warrior VII said:
Is it not something you could walk me through it do remotely?
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No. The card must be in your phone.
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dottat said:
No. The card must be in your phone.
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Just got the phone rooted! Unlocked with sunshine and then got a friend to root for me.
Do you know if there is a way to enable power saver mode? Verizon disabled it, and I really want it back. Anyway to re-enable after root?
Warrior VII said:
Just got the phone rooted! Unlocked with sunshine and then got a friend to root for me.
Do you know if there is a way to enable power saver mode? Verizon disabled it, and I really want it back. Anyway to re-enable after root?
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Flash a rom that supports it or find the Android shell command that enables it. I have seen it posted a couple times. The only direct way I know of requires a wipe.
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SunShine works on the latest (as of March 8th 2016) Verizon m8 firmware, it will temproot, unlock and s-off the device
Warrior VII said:
There seems to be no possible way to root a Verizon HTC device now. I'm trying to root my M8 and every avenue I've tried, it's apparently impossible.
Sunshine didn't work.
Everyone says weak sauce no longer works.
HTCdev site didn't work.
I always run into the fact that I can't S-Off.
So... Is there now no possible way to root a Verizon HTC M8?
The main reason I want to root is for battery life. I'm desperate. I want the old battery saver feature back, that Verizon removed in the Marshmallow update. Losers. Why you eliminate such a helpful tool from a phone escapes me. Utter nonsense.
So, now I'm faced with the decision. Root my M8, or buy a new phone. Thing is, I'm not ready to upgrade. But I can't seem to find a way to root!
If anyone can offer ANY help here, I would be greatly, greatly, appreciative. My M8's battery is not what it used to be.
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jcase said:
SunShine works on the latest (as of March 8th 2016) Verizon m8 firmware, it will temproot, unlock and s-off the device
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Does SunShine still work on the Verizon m9 with 6.0 ?
bigbee8492 said:
Does SunShine still work on the Verizon m9 with 6.0 ?
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Yes but you need to be on 3.37.605.7, follow this to downgraded/update http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t-unlock-s-verizon-m9-mm-3-37-605-13-t3457717
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Yes but you need to be on 3.37.605.7, follow this to downgraded/update http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t-unlock-s-verizon-m9-mm-3-37-605-13-t3457717
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Hello! I just bought HTC m8 verizon version that is on android 6.0. I am unable to get Wifi hotspot and USB tethering turned ON. Can you just show me a path to accomplish the goal? I will do the rest myself. Any help will be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
hmxmghl said:
Hello! I just bought HTC m8 verizon version that is on android 6.0. I am unable to get Wifi hotspot and USB tethering turned ON. Can you just show me a path to accomplish the goal? I will do the rest myself. Any help will be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Sorry not something I do