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[PSA] If you are on 1.73 and haven't rooted better do it now !!!!!!!

If you haven't rooted your 1.73 and protected it with RootKeeper you better do it now without delay of you will lose root forever (or till someone roots 1.85)
See This Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27124448#post27124448
Update: This post is now not relevant since 1.85 has been rooted.

galfert said:
If you haven't rooted your 1.73 and protected it with RootKeeper you better do it now without delay of you will lose root forever (or till someone roots 1.85)
See This Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27124448#post27124448
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You should also unlock that bootloader . Before it's to late
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this really sucks, i have a phoen that has light bleed and really bad battery life.
worried if i switch it now they will send one with the upgaded software,
maybe not though
ideas?

The_Zodiac said:
this really sucks, i have a phoen that has light bleed and really bad battery life.
worried if i switch it now they will send one with the upgaded software,
maybe not though
ideas?
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I just purchased my HOX yesterday and yes they now come with the 1.85 software preinstalled. So there is a great chance that your replacement will have the latest software or if you allow them to power it on they will immediate accept the update before they even hand you the phone. Maybe you can switch your own sim and tell them you want to set it up yourself and it may not have the update yet.
The same thing happened with the Evo when it first came out though. I had light leak and random resets and got a replacement that had the new Gingerbread update and no root method. Within a week they had found a way to downgrade to Froyo to attain root again so don't sweat it too much. Go get a good device!

jordant2 said:
I just purchased my HOX yesterday and yes they now come with the 1.85 software preinstalled. So there is a great chance that your replacement will have the latest software or if you allow them to power it on they will immediate accept the update before they even hand you the phone. Maybe you can switch your own sim and tell them you want to set it up yourself and it may not have the update yet.
The same thing happened with the Evo when it first came out though. I had light leak and random resets and got a replacement that had the new Gingerbread update and no root method. Within a week they had found a way to downgrade to Froyo to attain root again so don't sweat it too much. Go get a good device!
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I think the problem for us with replacements is that all the developers who are working on this phone already have theirs rooted and unlocked. There's no incentive or reason to find a way to root 1.85. I read somewhere that there is another update coming too.

SkizzMcNizz said:
I think the problem for us with replacements is that all the developers who are working on this phone already have theirs rooted and unlocked. There's no incentive or reason to find a way to root 1.85. I read somewhere that there is another update coming too.
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Well let's find these guys and break their **** so they all have to get replacements!

SkizzMcNizz said:
I think the problem for us with replacements is that all the developers who are working on this phone already have theirs rooted and unlocked. There's no incentive or reason to find a way to root 1.85. I read somewhere that there is another update coming too.
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There is a incentive. We donate money to them for their work for delivering good roms????? If there is no root, and more people are getting htc one x's, then there is basically no point to develop for the one x???? No profit lol

jordant2 said:
Well let's find these guys and break their **** so they all have to get replacements!
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That made me lol.
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I have not received any updates. See 1.85 similar post why.
sent from my hoXl
can't play my geetahr with out a geetahr string!

I'm still on 1.73 also but very confused to what I need to do to update,
first: unlock bootloader from htcdev?
second: root?
three: change CID with superCID?
four: relock with adb command
five: run the 1.85 update?
six: unlock bootloader again?
seven: root
eight: install CWM?
yes/no/maybe so?

rsnt said:
I'm still on 1.73 also but very confused to what I need to do to update
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These are the steps for the AT&T 1.73.
1) Root
2) Install RootKeeper (not needed...but 'eh can't hurt)
3) SuperCID
4) Titanium Backup - Optional if you want to save apps and app data
5) Upgrade to 1.85 via RUU - this will wipe everything except sd card
6) Unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com
7) Install Recovery
8) Root via Recovery

Can we please get peters guide stickied?
sent from my hoXl
can't play my geetahr with out a geetahr string!

I'm on 1.82 and I'm rooted, with SuperCID but I haven't unlocked yet because I'm hoping that we'll get S-OFF and I won't have to notify HTC of my "modding" activities. So, as long as I have SuperCID, I'll have the option of unlocking the downloader after the OTA upgrade, right? Assuming Rootkeeper failed or whatever...
Thanks!
Billy

freakboy13 said:
Can we please get peters guide stickied?
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I agree. Peter's guide is excellent. I did everything using Peter's guide following the Manual methods for everything (rather than One-Click methods). You learn more this way, less chance for errors. One-Click requires everthing to be perfect before running, and if things don't work you have no clue why nor how to troubleshoot.
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JeepFreak said:
I'm on 1.82 and I'm rooted, with SuperCID but I haven't unlocked yet because I'm hoping that we'll get S-OFF and I won't have to notify HTC of my "modding" activities. So, as long as I have SuperCID, I'll have the option of unlocking the downloader after the OTA upgrade, right? Assuming Rootkeeper failed or whatever...
Thanks!
Billy
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Don't totally quote me on this but I think you can only OTA from 1.73.
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Reverting OTA?

The latest OTA update has made my phone useless as a
phone, as it now gets no mobile reception...
Is there a way to reverse this upgrade?
My other option is a custom ROM, but i would prefer to stay stock at the moment if at all possible.

you can always run an RUU - One that doesnt contain the update

I was just educating myself on RUUs.
does it matter which one i run? i think my phone is unlocked/unbranded (i bought it second hand) but i'm not sure
EDIT: Nevermind, i checked my baseband against the list of RUUs and found that it is in fact unbranded. Now i know which one to get... just need FileFsctory to let me get it...

which is it you need ? Chances are there's a mirror somewhere

found a mirror, thanks

back to start... i tried to install the 1.53 version and it game an error 140 (bootloader)

I think its because the OTA updated the bootloader !
you cannot downgrade using RUU unless you have S-OFF

Well, i guess i'll have to root and install a custom ROM.
Thanks for the help!

what part do you want to revert ? The radio update ? Cause if so, there is a way to do this

Yeah, the radio. When i was 0.15 radio it worked, now with 0.16 it doesn't

Ok have a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684477
I dont think you have to have CWM installed on your device, You just need it on your PC, So you can boot into it.

Thanks! can't seem to find a 0.15 radio though

kuroyume_cl said:
The latest OTA update has made my phone useless as a
phone, as it now gets no mobile reception...
Is there a way to reverse this upgrade?
My other option is a custom ROM, but i would prefer to stay stock at the moment if at all possible.
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OP does know the consequences of rooting devices right? It avoids your warrenty.
So just want to make sure, do you not get reception anywhere or only at certain area? If the former, it may indicate a fault on your phone caused by the update and you should not deal with it by rooting cos there is a chance rooting and downgrading may not fix it then you would have no where to go. The right move IMO, is to take the phone back to point of sale and demand an exchange. Most of users like me do not have such problem after update.
Just to remind, if you know what you are doing, by all means.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA

kuroyume_cl said:
Thanks! can't seem to find a 0.15 radio though
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extract it from an ruu

h.han said:
OP does know the consequences of rooting devices right? It avoids your warrenty.
So just want to make sure, do you not get reception anywhere or only at certain area? If the former, it may indicate a fault on your phone caused by the update and you should not deal with it by rooting cos there is a chance rooting and downgrading may not fix it then you would have no where to go. The right move IMO, is to take the phone back to point of sale and demand an exchange. Most of users like me do not have such problem after update.
Just to remind, if you know what you are doing, by all means.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
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The point of sale is a few thousand kilometers away
No warranty in my country, so i have to figure this out by myself
I have rooted and installed roms on previous phones, but this one seems more... complicated
azzledazzle said:
extract it from an ruu
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how? (sorry about all of this, but never had an HTC before)

kuroyume_cl said:
how? (sorry about all of this, but never had an HTC before)
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Look here http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/extract-rom-from-ruu once extracted the rom.zip, open it up and take out the radio.img.
put it in the place where you keep all your adb stuff. and flash it using the method linked a few posts back

Went though the whole process but baseband version still reads 0.16xxxxxxxx
It doesn't seem to have worked

Well, at this point i'm fairly certain i need to rollback my radio, as i installed CM9 and still no cell signal. I checked and it had the same baseband as the 1.78 ROM.

How to stop an OTA update?

Okay first off, i know this is the wrong section. I can not post in development because I am new here, but I am in need of help desperately. Okay so I am rooted on 1.85 and the bootloader is NOT unlocked. Well i decided today to take the update to 4.0.4 before I did research. (Stupid me eh?) Well I start the OTA and then do some research. I learn that the update to 4.0.4 might be harmful to rooted users. So I disconnect from WiFi knowing it will pause the download. Well now I have a download that is just paused in the notification bar, and any time i connect to wifi it will continue the download. While the download is paused, can i unroot and take the update safely? I have seriously been searching for hours on end to find someone with a situation that I am in and i can not.

If you do a factory reset the update will go away. But that would also make you loose root. You should unlock the bootloader, then flash the rooted 2.20 update from the dev section.
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Yep, get that bootloader unlocked immediately and flash a rooted stock ROM or a custom ROM. Make sure you backup all your stuff with Titanium because the bootloader unlock will wipe your phone.
Also, just so you know, this thread most definitely did NOT belong in development, which is reserved for ROMs and kernels and root guides and the like ONLY. Threads like this belong in Q+A but nobody is gonna kill you for posting it in General.

After the download, you should get a prompt to either Install, Postpone, or you can press the "back" capacitive button to cancel. Cancel should stop the update notifications. At least this is how its worked on past HTC OTAs. I personally can't verify, as I haven't gotten the notification yet. But others seem to verify this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817429
But if you want to be safe, you should SuperCID and unlock bootloader first, as others have suggested. Pressing the wrong button for the method I suggested above will be catastrophic otherwise (lose the ability to root and unlock BL).

Thanks for your help guys!
I just did a factory data reset on my phone. Honestly, I've gotten myself into trouble with rooting. I really need to read up before i continue with things of this sort. So since i did a factory data reset, am i 100% unrooted? Will i be safe to take the OTA now? Thanks for your help guys!

If you were stock 1.85, and rooted using the one-click or "manual" method (which you must be, if you you are still BL locked), then you are now unrooted. You are either rooted or not, there is no "percentage" of rooted.
What kind of trouble have you gotten into rooting, and what do you typically use root for?

I've been debating on whether or not to just go ahead and install the OTA to 2.2. The only thing I've used for root was for WiFi-Tether and I don't even use that anymore so I think I don't even necessarily NEED root anymore. I'm just tired of the updater telling me there's a new update to install - frankly very annoying. I've been just using the back capacitive button to cancel it. BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?

extol1337 said:
BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
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Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.

redpoint73 said:
Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
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That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...

extol1337 said:
That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
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Is the update actually downloaded to your phone? You may need to locate and delete it.
It may be trying to install the OTA from recovery, which makes sense. Don't actually know what happens when an OTA installs.
I've never installed an OTA! I'm always rooted, always will be!!!!

Just to be sure.
I did a factory data reset the night of the problem, been good ever since! I have not done anything to the phone except install a few apps. Should i be okay to take the OTA now? Sorry i just really want to be sure. This is my 3rd phone is 3 months so... no second chances.

SOLVED
Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:

Did everyone got an update ?
I still do not see update notification
From beast called HTC One X

It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.

wantabe said:
It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
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Excellent info!

ssteven232 said:
Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
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Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

borets.boris said:
Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced). One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone! My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good! I also have to agree with "I can't own an android without root access" especially on AT&T. Personally I'm good to go until the Jelly Bean update! Decisions, decisions! :laugh:

wantabe said:
Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced).
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I've never installed an OTA, so I wouldn't know either. Honestly, I don't know why one would do that, when the awesome devs here post ROMs with the latest OTAs and root prebaked into them. There are "modded" ROMs and "stock" (or close to stock) ROMs available to everyone's taste.
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One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone!
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Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
wantabe said:
My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good!
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Where was your improvement? Did the increase happen in the aspect/area that directly affects your daily use, or in some esoteric algorithm that the phone all of a sudden processes faster? I used to go crazy on quadrant scores, but now I don't really understand their value/accuracy. As long as the phone feels buttery smooth while lasting 5+ hours of screen time, I'm happy!
Since you're interested in the scores, I installed quadrant and ran it, so you can compare.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

in admiration, totally confused!
borets.boris said:
Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
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Hi, do you think you could point me in the right direction for this? I found the general thread on radios, but am at a total loss about what it means or what to do with it!

You knew this was the wrong section but posted here anyway? Not a good way to start your membership on XDA. First rule of thumb is to search before creating a thread. Google is a great source for information. For future reference, all questions belong in the Q&A section, where coincidentally, this is being moved to.
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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[Q] Update to 2.2

Hello,
I have HTC one X (not rooted) on ATT with version 1.85. I got an update notification in the past but I ignored it. Now I am trying to check for update it is doing nothing.
When I click on check for update nothing happens. I tried changing dates, restarting phone etc.
Can anyone help me with this?
Regards,
Alex

Maybe one of the other guys can back me up on this if I'm right, or tell me I'm a dummy? 2.2 update only locks up your phone. If you intention is to root later? I'd leave it be. And I would imagine that att is no longer interested in sending that ota because we now have a exploit for 2.2. Your next update offered will more likely have more securely locked bootloader. No fun for anyone looking to customize their HOX
Sent from my One X using xda premium

subarudroid said:
Maybe one of the other guys can back me up on this if I'm right, or tell me I'm a dummy? 2.2 update only locks up your phone. If you intention is to root later?
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2.20 update includes an updated 1.14 hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed in recovery. Downgrading the hboot is only possible currently using a Linux computer. If the OP has any desire in the future to root, and flash custom ROMs, my advice is that he should root and unlock the bootloader now. Not sure, but I think some people have had forced OTA updates to 2.20.

Newbie Updating from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1 , but need advice first

Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.

notslow1 said:
Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.
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Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
dottat said:
Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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notslow1 said:
Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
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Zero other options. If you want root on your phone it's your only option.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.

notslow1 said:
Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.
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I would S-OFF on KK then take the OTA to 5.0.1

That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).

notslow1 said:
That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).
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You do realize that without s-off your root will be pretty worthless for most things thanks to write protection in place right?
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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?

notslow1 said:
I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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I'll add to the choir here. Do yourself a favor and get s-off before doing anything. Weaksauce works but the changes only last until you reboot. With s-off, you can do anything. And yes, Titanium Backup will restore your apps and data. As for the tethering, you can flash a rom that has it enabled or you can just run stock and "unlock" it yourself. It's a simple edit of a file. It's well worth the $25 it costs. Do it if you can.

notslow1 said:
I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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We are all new at some point in time and if there is anything I can suggest it is to listen to dottat. The kat knows his biz.
That $50 you "can't afford" . When you take one of those OTA updates unintentionally and then realize that not even $5000 can get you the s-off you so desperately desire for TB, tethering, or whatever your fancy is....it's pennies my good friend. You are so very lucky to be on KK, as that can still be dealt with. LP is another animal. To my knowledge there has been no way to get s-off/unlock bootloader. Take it form me, a flash junkie - you want s-off. You want an unlocked bootloader. You want root. Once you have it you never go back.
Otherwise you should have gotten an iphone.
These words are not to meant to condescend or talk down, it is to encourage you to take what you can while you still can.

I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/help/verizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.

notslow1 said:
I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...rizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
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You won't be able to do what you want.

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I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
I'm not sure how you got that out of the last sentence ....Did you read all of the post? :
"We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
Your phones are yours to do with as you choose of course, but if you want to take advantage of TB and tethering in the manner in which you hope to, you'll need s-off. As dottat has pointed out once again, and as I've already said, you've come this far and you are lucky enough to have found two phones with the 4.x firmware still on them, you'd be throwing all that away in the HOPES that one day you can get that exploit - and you'll STILL have to pay $25 for it IF they do.

I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"

notslow1 said:
I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
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The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
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dottat said:
The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
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! What he said!
Both the M8 and M9 are unleashed after you have them S-0ffed. In addition to getting Wifi Tether,
you can modify things like Power Saver settings and other fun things. You can experiment with things
safely and obtain a faster phone that gets better battery life than bloated stock.
Devs post great custom roms that you can sample. Honestly, I like the 'new' look of my phone rotating
thru the different roms available here on xda.
Def worth the effort to S-0ff.

I got both phones S-off this week. I'm going to install dottat's prerooted 5.0.1 on them now. Crossing my fingers that I do it right.
Just want to thank everyone that posted for the great advice.
Me and my girlfriend can't wait to get on some modern phones, we're using droid 4 and droid razr that are grinding to a halt and barely function.