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hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
There are no OTA updates as of yet. Those on 1.85 are on it because they ran the leaked RUU.
Unless you know what you're doing don't bother updating to .85 because you can lose all root/bootloader/CID to let you do as you please because theres no current exploit. Its also been reported by people [and me] that you get lower CPU benchmark scores via Quadrant for example, although a faster / snappier phone. A couple people have also said its more sluggish now for them but I believe thats based on what they have running [I use one home screen + no widgets].
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
chillsen said:
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
iElvis said:
We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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thank you for that key info. will not be ota'ing until xda squad cracks it alllll!
Basically ... NO!
chillsen said:
hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
Is it safe to assume, that if people who flashed leaked ruu's don't get ota's then some of the devs will release ruu's of the newest ota's ?
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PeterHTC said:
Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
I know the feeling
patstock11 said:
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
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Same with me - waiting for root for 1.85 - nothing much we can do at this point! Sounds like there are quite a few of us stuck in Limbo.
Just keep watching the forums and waiting for Root!
Mike
Not really ...
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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So you're suggesting that the root = no OTA is One X (or HTC) specific? Where did you hear that?
FWIW, I've got that app installed and it successfully saved a su copy.
PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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Sorry, but you are wrong. If you are rooted and nothing else, you CAN and will receive OTA updates, for most devices. I've heard many accounts of people being rooted and then updating OTA and losing root, and getting it back after a while after a new exploit was found. Now, if you use custom ROMs or anything, that changes things, but just rooting doesn't do anything. Think about it, you aren't changing the ROM or the way it connects to AT&T's servers. You are just exploiting a vulnerability and gaining root access. Now, AT&T may have found a way to detect root, but as far as I know they don't and with only a root, OTA updates can be installed. Although any post-root modification might screw that up.
Hello!
I have recieved the Android 4.0.4 OTA update but am unable to install it. I had unlocked my bootloader but havent installed any ROM, and tried to do the OTA update, the phone shut down and booted up to the fastboot menu.. i relocked my phone and tried again, same result.. I called HTC and they had no idea, they got me to turn off the fast boot in the power settings, but that didnt work!
What do I need to do to get the OTA update to work?
Based on your avatar, you are in Australia? Not sure what the firmware changes are for your region. But in the US, the latest 4.0.4 firmware also changes hboot, and plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. In other words, not being able to install the OTA may be a good thing. It might be better to install one of the rooted stock ROMs in the Development forum.
Can't say for certain, since my US carrier (AT&T) does things so much differently than anyone else. So hopefully some folks in your region can chime in.
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Based on your avatar, you are in Australia? Not sure what the firmware changes are for your region. But in the US, the latest 4.0.4 firmware also changes hboot, and plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. In other words, not being able to install the OTA may be a good thing. It might be better to install one of the rooted stock ROMs in the Development forum.
Can't say for certain, since my US carrier (AT&T) does things so much differently than anyone else. So hopefully some folks in your region can chime in.
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Hey thanks for the response.
Yeah I am in Australia, but I would like to get OTA Updates until Im comfortable with properly putting new ROMs onto my phone..
My service provider (Optus) took it's sweet time to release this update and their only solution is to take it into their shop to get it repaired/looked at..
If you are rooted, you may need to unroot.
You may also want to try finding the OTA file on the SD card and deleting it, and trying to download it again.
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redpoint73 said:
If you are rooted, you may need to unroot.
You may also want to try finding the OTA file on the SD card and deleting it, and trying to download it again.
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Yeah, Ive unrooted it.. I relocked the phone and ran the stock RUU for it.. but after a day I haven't received the OTA notification.. so I might have to wait a while for that to come back I guess..
hi , sorry for the noob question but i was wondering if with this cid was possible to get JB firmware
im from mexico and my hboot is 1.14 my htc one x (evita) cingular_us is unlocked and rooted
im on cleanrom 5.0 final
sense 4.1
android ver . 4.0.4
based on 2.20.502.7 CL79936 release keys
radio 0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25L
alex2693836 said:
hi , sorry for the noob question but i was wondering if with this cid was possible to get JB firmware
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Now, someone feel free to correct me. I do believe to get the JB OTA update, you'll have to RUU back to stock when you know the update has been pushed out. You're CID shouldn't matter in getting updates.
Myrder said:
Now, someone feel free to correct me. I do believe to get the JB OTA update, you'll have to RUU back to stock when you know the update has been pushed out. You're CID shouldn't matter in getting updates.
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and if i flash the firmware of the maximus rom , can i flash it ?
and i have TWRP 2.3.1.0 recovery this works too , right?
Myrder said:
Now, someone feel free to correct me. I do believe to get the JB OTA update, you'll have to RUU back to stock when you know the update has been pushed out. You're CID shouldn't matter in getting updates.
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Probably correct. Root will either prevent you from getting the OTA notification altogether, or make the install fail (possibly even putting you into a bootloop, or stuck on the bootscreen). Likewise, unlocked bootloader will prevent the OTA from installing.
Moreover, I don't think the OP will get the OTA, since the phone is the US version, and not in the US. Probably need to download the RUU to get it at all.
And also, I would advise not installing any new OTA or RUU until folks on here have sorted out what it means to hboot, root, etc. They have plugged the root exploits for every firmware version to date, so I don't expect JB to be any different. Plus, I'll bet the JB firmware will be posted here on Development, in a safe, recovery-flashable, pre-rooted form. And probably soon after the OTA starts to hit. Maybe even before the OTA, if it gets leaked.
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Probably correct. Root will either prevent you from getting the OTA notification altogether, or make the install fail (possibly even putting you into a bootloop, or stuck on the bootscreen). Likewise, unlocked bootloader will prevent the OTA from installing.
Moreover, I don't think the OP will get the OTA, since the phone is the US version, and not in the US. Probably need to download the RUU to get it at all.
And also, I would advise not installing any OTA or RUU until folks on here have sorted out what it means to hboot, root, etc. They have plugged the root exploits for every firmware version to date, so I don't expect JB to be any different. Plus, I'll bet the JB firmware will be posted here on Development, in a safe, recovery-flashable, pre-rooted form. And probably soon after the OTA starts to hit. Maybe even before the OTA, if it gets leaked.
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so that means i cant flash it ? or the phonw will not suport the firmware , sorry for my english :$$
alex2693836 said:
and if i flash the firmware of the maximus rom , can i flash it ?
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That is definitely not ok. Maximus is for the international One X (Tegra3 version). Completely different hardware. ROM won't work, and you might brick your phone.
Stay in the One X/XL forums that say "AT&T".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
Also, just so you kow, JB has not started going out for our version of the One X. Only for the international version.
If there isn't a RUU for my phone, will it be possible for me to get the OTA update whenever it comes?
I have a backup of my stock rom, if I flash back to that when it's out will it be possible?
area51avenger said:
If there isn't a RUU for my phone, will it be possible for me to get the OTA update whenever it comes?
I have a backup of my stock rom, if I flash back to that when it's out will it be possible?
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Stock ROM, and unrooted should be OK. But you will need to relock the bootloader too.
But I'd still just wait for the ROM to be posted in Development in a pre-rooted form, and just flash from recovery. Since you are on Telus, you will still be able to unlock the bootloader and root again (after an OTA). But why hassle with all the locking of the bootloader, returning to stock, etc.? JB will probably be posted here before you would get it OTA.
And for those on AT&T, I would definitely advise against accepting any OTA. Too many people rushed willy-nilly to accept the 2.20 OTA, then were on here complaining that they could no longer root (which for us also means no unlocked bootloader and no custom ROMs).
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That is definitely not ok. Maximus is for the international One X (Tegra3 version). Completely different hardware. ROM won't work, and you might brick your phone.
Stay in the One X/XL forums that say "AT&T".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
Also, just so you kow, JB has not started going out for our version of the One X. Only for the international version.
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thanks man for real
and other thing , do you know when is the release for the one x at&t ?
n.n
alex2693836 said:
thanks man for real
and other thing , do you know when is the release for the one x at&t ?
n.n
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No problem. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for any posts you found helpful.
No word yet on JB release date for AT&T. Some folks are speculating November or December. But those are just guesses.
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No problem. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for any posts you found helpful.
No word yet on JB release date for AT&T. Some folks are speculating November or December. But those are just guesses.
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I've been told last week of Nov to the first week of Dec. But then again, its all rumors.
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Ok, so I have a HTC ONE X and i've had it since September and I have never gotten the 4.0.4 update. I contacted my provider (AT&T), they told me that they made the update available over the air. I went to my Settings app and clicked Check for Updates and after about a minute it went back to the same screen. I then contacted HTC Customer Support and the guy told me that they never made it available OTA. I'm confused. Is there something wrong with my phone? Help!?!?!
acord10 said:
Ok, so I have a HTC ONE X and i've had it since September and I have never gotten the 4.0.4 update. I contacted my provider (AT&T), they told me that they made the update available over the air. I went to my Settings app and clicked Check for Updates and after about a minute it went back to the same screen. I then contacted HTC Customer Support and the guy told me that they never made it available OTA. I'm confused. Is there something wrong with my phone? Help!?!?!
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Att sent it ota....though you might be able to do it manually.... Don't talk to HTC employees about software its a random response every tome nothing is consistent....I do recommend rooting it and flashing maybe just a stock rooted Rom if that's what you like
omario8484 said:
Att sent it ota....though you might be able to do it manually.... Don't talk to HTC employees about software its a random response every tome nothing is consistent....I do recommend rooting it and flashing maybe just a stock rooted Rom if that's what you like
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How can I get it to download OTA?
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How can I get it to download OTA?
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huh?
So you are on the 1.85 firmware?
If you have any desire to root, flash custom ROMs, etc., my advice would be to not update, and root the phone now. The 2.20 firmware includes an updated 1.14 hboot which plugs the exploits by which boot.img and radios can be flashed in recovery. This means that flashing ROMs takes extra steps of extracting boot.img from the ROM and flashing it over fastboot. You can't flash radios at all on the new hboot (with the exception of CM10 radios). People are actually downgrading the hboot, so they don't have to deal with these things.
Once rooted and bootloader unlocked, you can just flash any ROM you want, including stock rooted 2.20 or newer versions firmwares.
If you still want to upgrade the official way, and can't get the OTA, you can flash the RUU. It will wipe user data, but IMO this is a better cleaner way to update than OTA, anyway.
here is the ota http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_EVITA_UL_...2.7-1.85.502.3_R2_releasenin45grzkfswb95v.zip
this method might let you manually update [How-To] Update devices via the OTA .zip
I guess my question is, if I wait to update to jellybean will the method that is available today to root the phone no longer exist? It appears that someone has described a method for me to update to the AT&T version of jellybean once it's available, so that shouldn't be an issue (I hope!).
We won't really know (if they plugged the root exploit hole) until the update goes out, and people try to root. But HTC has killed the previous root method with every AT&T OTA for this device so far. So if I were a betting man, I'd say that the current exploit will not work after updating to JB.
Really, you have nothing to lose if you root now versus after the Jellybean OTA. You can always unroot and accept the OTA later, if you change your mind. Also, if you are rooted and bootloader unlocked, once the AT&T JB OTA rolls out, it will probably be posted in a pre-rooted flashable form within days (maybe even hours) of it being rolled out officially. So you can just flash that on your rooted, BL unlocked device.
But on the other hand, if you accept the OTA and cannot root, you are stuck until a new root exploit is found.
i would root now and wait until a dev gets JB and makes it compatible, because what usually happens when new software or firmware is released is the manufacturers and carriers often patch the vulnerabilities we use to obtain root.
Root it now. There's no telling if a root method for a later version will arrive sooner or later so to be safe I'd do it now. You can flash any jellybean rom you want afterwards.
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One thing that can be said with confidence is that rooting and unlocking is not going to get easier with each update. It may stay the same; it may get a lot harder. So there's no good reason to wait.
I personally haven't had any issues with Viper XL 3.1 (Jellybean), so you could upgrade now if you really wanted to take advantage of some of the features. If you're looking to stay on ICS, Viper XL 2.4 and CleanRom 5.1 are really solid choices.
speaking from experience.
root it now. If you update to jellybean via ota you might run into the problem that I'm currently having. OTA updated my rogers X One then rooted it. Bootloader unlock and root went fine, but when I went to use the penultimate TWRP, the screen wouldn't respond. Had to flash the newest TWRP and that responded to touch. But now when I flash a rom it won't respond to touch. My guess is that something in hboot 2.14 has changed.
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root it now. If you update to jellybean via ota you might run into the problem that I'm currently having. OTA updated my rogers X One then rooted it. Bootloader unlock and root went fine, but when I went to use the penultimate TWRP, the screen wouldn't respond. Had to flash the newest TWRP and that responded to touch. But now when I flash a rom it won't respond to touch. My guess is that something in hboot 2.14 has changed.
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That's true, HTC is almost sure to further mess with hboot, as well as patch the root exploit.
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veemodz823 said:
root it now. If you update to jellybean via ota you might run into the problem that I'm currently having. OTA updated my rogers X One then rooted it. Bootloader unlock and root went fine, but when I went to use the penultimate TWRP, the screen wouldn't respond. Had to flash the newest TWRP and that responded to touch. But now when I flash a rom it won't respond to touch. My guess is that something in hboot 2.14 has changed.
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That's true, HTC is almost sure to further mess with hboot, as well as patch the root exploit.
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Chongodroid flashed the new 2.14 boot and doesn't have an issue.. my guess would be some sort of firmware change/incompatibility
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Chongodroid flashed the new 2.14 boot and doesn't have an issue.. my guess would be some sort of firmware change/incompatibility
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Which isn't to say that they will even include hboot 2.14 in the AT&T OTA. We seem to get "special" treatment (in a bad way). So I'm betting they will have an even newer hboot for the AT&T update, and f_ck us even more.
I would do it now and never accept any OTA update. My phone came with the 1.14 HBOOT, but after I unlocked the bootloader, I downgraded that using JET and haven't looked back. With an unlocked bootloader and TWRP I am not even sure how they could make the AT&T Jellybean unrootable unless you take the OTA and it screws you with a new HBOOT. My only real advice is to never take an OTA if you plan to root.