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OTA on rooted phones?

My first question is: is it possible to get the OTA update on a rooted phone?
The 2nd question is there something I can do to get the Software Update check work?
I realise that my first question may answer this one as well, it's only just that all of the other ROM's I've tried did at least seem to contact a checking service and come back with a response that No Updates have been found. This one just keeps waiting for a response and never gets one.
Want to at least try the official OTA ICS update from Vodafone UK if possible, without having to load a stock ROM and locking my phone again.
Thanks
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It has always been traditionally said not to apply an OTA on a rooted phone as, historically, it's caused nothing but problems. Whether the same is true now I can't say BUT I would not recommend it personally

do i need to uninstall only SU, or su and clockwork to install ota?
sorry for my bad english
thanks

CWM needs to go as well - you need the stock recovery

Thanks for the advice. I'll have to go stock if CM9 is a long way off. Or try 7.x again, although I'll really miss ICS.
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I think as long as you have stock recovery but are S-OFF; it shouldn't be an issue. I looked at some previous posts , albeit from the Evo forum and it seems to be fine. I could be wrong, though.

I keep seeing people post about being rooted and flashing the OTA update. Now someone please, please, please correct me if I am wrong, but when you flash as new ROM, unless you just flash a new system via ADB fastboot commands, you flash a new kernel and all every time you flash a new ROM. So therefor it does not matter if you are rooted cause the rooted kernel will be replaced with a new ROM. For those out there that do not know the kernel is contained in the boot.img of a ROM. Now in a s tock ROM it is. Of always named boot.img but it is still pretty much the same thing with maybe a little more than a custom TOM's would be. So please people stop wording about being rooted, it does not matter. If you are on the correct stock ROM and have the stock recovery you are good to go to flash and run the OTA. It does not matter if you are S-off or S-on either.

It does 100% matter as otherwise the SU app/binary will still be present and potentially cause issue to the 'stock' ROM. Go look at the Desire forums all over the net for examples as to why you shouldn't flash an OTA onto a rooted handset

EddyOS said:
It does 100% matter as otherwise the SU app/binary will still be present and potentially cause issue to the 'stock' ROM. Go look at the Desire forums all over the net for examples as to why you shouldn't flash an OTA onto a rooted handset
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So as long as you're stock recovery, and stock ROM, but s-off, it shouldn't have any bearing whether or not you upgrade ota... Right?
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EddyOS said:
It does 100% matter as otherwise the SU app/binary will still be present and potentially cause issue to the 'stock' ROM. Go look at the Desire forums all over the net for examples as to why you shouldn't flash an OTA onto a rooted handset
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Ok I well look into this further when I get home from work. I have not looked at the Desire forums yet, bit I will later today. My question is though are the Desire users having to use the stock recovery, or has someone made a flashable .zip file for them of the OTA? If so this could have something to do with the troubles. Like I said I will check into this further this evening. I still say it should not as the kernel is replaced when you flash the OTA update, bit I could very well be wrong.

It's not that you can't do it, you can, it's just not recommended. By all means try it but should it go wrong flashing an RUU is all that would work
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EddyOS said:
It's not that you can't do it, you can, it's just not recommended. By all means try it but should it go wrong flashing an RUU is all that would work
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I totally understand what you are saying, but flashing stock is not the only way to fix it, it is just the easiest and most user friendly way to fix it. It is pretty much a one click fix, and that is because of the RUU it self. When you flash via a RUU the utility runs a Task 28 on the NAND memory first meaning the NAND is totally wipped, meaning all partitions, before the ROM is flashed. Now you can also use ADB to remove and reflash all partitions,Splash 1(mtdblock0), recovery(mtdblock1), boot(mtdblock2), system(mtdblock3). cache(mtdblock4), userdata(mtdblock5).
Now back to the question about being rooted, I still have not got home yet to get on my computer to look at the desire forums. Now from what I know root is acheived on the kernel level cause that is what root is. It allows for direct communication with the kernel, again correct me if I am wrong. Now I understand that Superuser app binaries would still be present if you flashed just the system. But if you flash a whole new ROM wich is what the OTA update does, then the kernel is replaced with the kerneel in the OTA update, which by is either a completely new kernel or a modified kernel that HTC has made to work with ICS. I have not had time to look into wich one it is, but from my experience of trying to help port the SDK of ICS to the Sensation it is probably a completely new kernel.
Anyway I will have to do some research on the differences between stock recoveries and custom recoveries. Specifically the processes the recoveries run when flashing a ROM from SD card, and just what all is in the OTA update files. Once I get to do this I will be more able to give a hard core answer to this question. Oh and thinks to the EddyOS for helping to get me back into digging around in ROM files and learning more about how Android works.
Edit: I totally forgot to mention JTAG, this is another way that you could fix the problem, all be it sort of a major over kill for the problem, but still a fix.

Rogers System Update - (1.94.631.3)

I've been checking for updates on my one x almost everyday for a month now, and an update just went out.
It's a system update (1.94.631.3) 67Mb.
Still not sure what its updating.

Try it and let us know!
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I'm currently on version 1.73.631.1.
I can download the update and run the installer.
It gets halfway through the update then shows a phone with an error icon on it.
phone resets and im still on the old version.

Berserk87 said:
I'm currently on version 1.73.631.1.
I can download the update and run the installer.
It gets halfway through the update then shows a phone with an error icon on it.
phone resets and im still on the old version.
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Are you unlocked/rooted? Or pure stock?

I think I'm going to wait a bit before installing this update...
for the record I'm on 1.73 still... not sure what's in this update

That's odd.. from other X & XL 4.0.4 releases they have used a 2.x.x.x release code and I'm surprised they would release another 4.0.3 version with 4.0.4 out.

I called HTC.
They couldnt tell me how to fix the error or what the update includes.
I was told to factory reset and try it again, which I did. The update still failed and I have to resetup my phone now...

Custom Recovery Screen
I downloaded the update successfully on my rooted One X (with stock ROM). When I hit install, it restarts the phone and goes into the custom recovery screen... I don't really know what to do from there though... anyone got any ideas?

Berserk87 said:
I called HTC.
They couldnt tell me how to fix the error or what the update includes.
I was told to factory reset and try it again, which I did. The update still failed and I have to resetup my phone now...
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Need to relock bootloader, restore recovery and return OS to stock.
Basically relock bootloader and flash original RUU.
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ComposMentis said:
That's odd.. from other X & XL 4.0.4 releases they have used a 2.x.x.x release code and I'm surprised they would release another 4.0.3 version with 4.0.4 out.
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Only Singapore has gotten 2.x aka 4.0.4.
All other regions were recently updated to things like 1.88(previous Singtel), 1.89(Telstra), 1.91(Telus), 1.92(o2 Germany) and now 1.94(Rogers). There is probably a 1.90 and 1.93 somewhere. Eg maybe 1.93 is the soon to be released AT&T and maybe Vodafone Germany is at 1.90?

Only thing I can think that might mess it up, is that my phone was rooted, but i've done a factory reset already.
So the only other thing I can think of is that the update fails because my phone shows "tampered" from rooting.

You need to install a ruu(the correct rogers one). That will remove tampered warning.

I just downloaded the update. It's def worth doing it. My phone was rooted as well but had no issues with update. Multitasking issue for me seems to be fixed, well a million times better than it was anyways (Seems i spoke too soon on the multitasking, its a bit better, but after a couple apps its back to normal) no more reloading every time you go back to something. Also I used to find it slow going into text messages etc, and the contact list was slow to update especially when scrolling through, totally eliminated now. So much faster and less bogged down feeling.

lurker82 said:
I just downloaded the update. It's def worth doing it. My phone was rooted as well but had no issues with update. Multitasking issue for me seems to be fixed, well a million times better than it was anyways (Seems i spoke too soon on the multitasking, its a bit better, but after a couple apps its back to normal) no more reloading every time you go back to something. Also I used to find it slow going into text messages etc, and the contact list was slow to update especially when scrolling through, totally eliminated now. So much faster and less bogged down feeling.
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Any tricks to the update?
did you download over wifi?
plugged in during update?
use htc sync?

twistedddx said:
You need to install a ruu(the correct rogers one). That will remove tampered warning.
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I don't think that removes the tampered flag.
Sent from mobile

Installing a RUU does remove the tampered flag. so run the stock ruu, flash the update then unlock the bootloader again then push the custom recovery. flash a root for cmw then you will be rooted again. If you want a custom rom from it, then do a system dump after the upgrade.

OTA Link
Here's the link for the OTA download for anyone who wants to go through it: http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Evita_UL_Rogers_WWE_1.94.631.3-1.73.631.1_release_268994d5lde1latibkco05.zip
It contains hboot 8960_1.11.0000_20120607 and an updated radio, the version of which I'm not sure of.

Oh. Didn't actually try an ruu myself.
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TelusHTCHero said:
Here's the link for the OTA download for anyone who wants to go through it: http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Evita_UL_Rogers_WWE_1.94.631.3-1.73.631.1_release_268994d5lde1latibkco05.zip
It contains hboot 8960_1.11.0000_20120607 and an updated radio, the version of which I'm not sure of.
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Where did you get that and how do I flash it?
I would also like to keep root if possible.

I assume people catch the link while the phone tries to download it.
You can't manually flash a fota. You need to apply all the patch files against the original firmware intended to be updated.
It's a long tedious process, only a smart dev will be able to pull it off.
It was done to get 4.0.4 but is it worth the effort for this? This is likely equal to all the other regions recent 4.0.3 updates.

Why are you guys so eager to flash this? I'm sure there are better custom roms. This will update your hboot so beware. If s-off is achieved you'll be **** out of luck.
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[Q] can i get JB firmware with this CID ?

hi , sorry for the noob question but i was wondering if with this cid was possible to get JB firmware
im from mexico and my hboot is 1.14 my htc one x (evita) cingular_us is unlocked and rooted
im on cleanrom 5.0 final
sense 4.1
android ver . 4.0.4
based on 2.20.502.7 CL79936 release keys
radio 0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25L

alex2693836 said:
hi , sorry for the noob question but i was wondering if with this cid was possible to get JB firmware
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Now, someone feel free to correct me. I do believe to get the JB OTA update, you'll have to RUU back to stock when you know the update has been pushed out. You're CID shouldn't matter in getting updates.

Myrder said:
Now, someone feel free to correct me. I do believe to get the JB OTA update, you'll have to RUU back to stock when you know the update has been pushed out. You're CID shouldn't matter in getting updates.
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and if i flash the firmware of the maximus rom , can i flash it ?
and i have TWRP 2.3.1.0 recovery this works too , right?

Myrder said:
Now, someone feel free to correct me. I do believe to get the JB OTA update, you'll have to RUU back to stock when you know the update has been pushed out. You're CID shouldn't matter in getting updates.
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Probably correct. Root will either prevent you from getting the OTA notification altogether, or make the install fail (possibly even putting you into a bootloop, or stuck on the bootscreen). Likewise, unlocked bootloader will prevent the OTA from installing.
Moreover, I don't think the OP will get the OTA, since the phone is the US version, and not in the US. Probably need to download the RUU to get it at all.
And also, I would advise not installing any new OTA or RUU until folks on here have sorted out what it means to hboot, root, etc. They have plugged the root exploits for every firmware version to date, so I don't expect JB to be any different. Plus, I'll bet the JB firmware will be posted here on Development, in a safe, recovery-flashable, pre-rooted form. And probably soon after the OTA starts to hit. Maybe even before the OTA, if it gets leaked.

redpoint73 said:
Probably correct. Root will either prevent you from getting the OTA notification altogether, or make the install fail (possibly even putting you into a bootloop, or stuck on the bootscreen). Likewise, unlocked bootloader will prevent the OTA from installing.
Moreover, I don't think the OP will get the OTA, since the phone is the US version, and not in the US. Probably need to download the RUU to get it at all.
And also, I would advise not installing any OTA or RUU until folks on here have sorted out what it means to hboot, root, etc. They have plugged the root exploits for every firmware version to date, so I don't expect JB to be any different. Plus, I'll bet the JB firmware will be posted here on Development, in a safe, recovery-flashable, pre-rooted form. And probably soon after the OTA starts to hit. Maybe even before the OTA, if it gets leaked.
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so that means i cant flash it ? or the phonw will not suport the firmware , sorry for my english :$$

alex2693836 said:
and if i flash the firmware of the maximus rom , can i flash it ?
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That is definitely not ok. Maximus is for the international One X (Tegra3 version). Completely different hardware. ROM won't work, and you might brick your phone.
Stay in the One X/XL forums that say "AT&T".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
Also, just so you kow, JB has not started going out for our version of the One X. Only for the international version.

If there isn't a RUU for my phone, will it be possible for me to get the OTA update whenever it comes?
I have a backup of my stock rom, if I flash back to that when it's out will it be possible?

area51avenger said:
If there isn't a RUU for my phone, will it be possible for me to get the OTA update whenever it comes?
I have a backup of my stock rom, if I flash back to that when it's out will it be possible?
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Stock ROM, and unrooted should be OK. But you will need to relock the bootloader too.
But I'd still just wait for the ROM to be posted in Development in a pre-rooted form, and just flash from recovery. Since you are on Telus, you will still be able to unlock the bootloader and root again (after an OTA). But why hassle with all the locking of the bootloader, returning to stock, etc.? JB will probably be posted here before you would get it OTA.
And for those on AT&T, I would definitely advise against accepting any OTA. Too many people rushed willy-nilly to accept the 2.20 OTA, then were on here complaining that they could no longer root (which for us also means no unlocked bootloader and no custom ROMs).

redpoint73 said:
That is definitely not ok. Maximus is for the international One X (Tegra3 version). Completely different hardware. ROM won't work, and you might brick your phone.
Stay in the One X/XL forums that say "AT&T".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
Also, just so you kow, JB has not started going out for our version of the One X. Only for the international version.
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thanks man for real
and other thing , do you know when is the release for the one x at&t ?
n.n

alex2693836 said:
thanks man for real
and other thing , do you know when is the release for the one x at&t ?
n.n
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No problem. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for any posts you found helpful.
No word yet on JB release date for AT&T. Some folks are speculating November or December. But those are just guesses.

redpoint73 said:
No problem. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for any posts you found helpful.
No word yet on JB release date for AT&T. Some folks are speculating November or December. But those are just guesses.
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I've been told last week of Nov to the first week of Dec. But then again, its all rumors.
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[Q] Help me please

Ok, so I have a HTC ONE X and i've had it since September and I have never gotten the 4.0.4 update. I contacted my provider (AT&T), they told me that they made the update available over the air. I went to my Settings app and clicked Check for Updates and after about a minute it went back to the same screen. I then contacted HTC Customer Support and the guy told me that they never made it available OTA. I'm confused. Is there something wrong with my phone? Help!?!?!

acord10 said:
Ok, so I have a HTC ONE X and i've had it since September and I have never gotten the 4.0.4 update. I contacted my provider (AT&T), they told me that they made the update available over the air. I went to my Settings app and clicked Check for Updates and after about a minute it went back to the same screen. I then contacted HTC Customer Support and the guy told me that they never made it available OTA. I'm confused. Is there something wrong with my phone? Help!?!?!
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Att sent it ota....though you might be able to do it manually.... Don't talk to HTC employees about software its a random response every tome nothing is consistent....I do recommend rooting it and flashing maybe just a stock rooted Rom if that's what you like

omario8484 said:
Att sent it ota....though you might be able to do it manually.... Don't talk to HTC employees about software its a random response every tome nothing is consistent....I do recommend rooting it and flashing maybe just a stock rooted Rom if that's what you like
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How can I get it to download OTA?

acord10 said:
How can I get it to download OTA?
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huh?

So you are on the 1.85 firmware?
If you have any desire to root, flash custom ROMs, etc., my advice would be to not update, and root the phone now. The 2.20 firmware includes an updated 1.14 hboot which plugs the exploits by which boot.img and radios can be flashed in recovery. This means that flashing ROMs takes extra steps of extracting boot.img from the ROM and flashing it over fastboot. You can't flash radios at all on the new hboot (with the exception of CM10 radios). People are actually downgrading the hboot, so they don't have to deal with these things.
Once rooted and bootloader unlocked, you can just flash any ROM you want, including stock rooted 2.20 or newer versions firmwares.
If you still want to upgrade the official way, and can't get the OTA, you can flash the RUU. It will wipe user data, but IMO this is a better cleaner way to update than OTA, anyway.

here is the ota http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_EVITA_UL_...2.7-1.85.502.3_R2_releasenin45grzkfswb95v.zip
this method might let you manually update [How-To] Update devices via the OTA .zip

[Q] Update to 2.2

Hello,
I have HTC one X (not rooted) on ATT with version 1.85. I got an update notification in the past but I ignored it. Now I am trying to check for update it is doing nothing.
When I click on check for update nothing happens. I tried changing dates, restarting phone etc.
Can anyone help me with this?
Regards,
Alex

Maybe one of the other guys can back me up on this if I'm right, or tell me I'm a dummy? 2.2 update only locks up your phone. If you intention is to root later? I'd leave it be. And I would imagine that att is no longer interested in sending that ota because we now have a exploit for 2.2. Your next update offered will more likely have more securely locked bootloader. No fun for anyone looking to customize their HOX
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subarudroid said:
Maybe one of the other guys can back me up on this if I'm right, or tell me I'm a dummy? 2.2 update only locks up your phone. If you intention is to root later?
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2.20 update includes an updated 1.14 hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed in recovery. Downgrading the hboot is only possible currently using a Linux computer. If the OP has any desire in the future to root, and flash custom ROMs, my advice is that he should root and unlock the bootloader now. Not sure, but I think some people have had forced OTA updates to 2.20.