hey i will change my galaxy s6 for an iphone 6 and an ipad mini 2, cause im tired of samsung with their ram problem lag problem, i dont feel the 3 gb of ram i have G920i with last firmware in 5.1.1, the "promised source code" and cyanogenmod.
later i will buy iPhone 6S,
Bye Samsung, Bye XDA
kmiloxdxd said:
hey i will change my galaxy s6 for an iphone 6 and an ipad mini 2, cause im tired of samsung with their ram problem lag problem, i dont feel the 3 gb of ram i have G920i with last firmware in 5.1.1, the "promised source code" and cyanogenmod.
later i will buy iPhone 6S,
Bye Samsung, Bye XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do you put this in the Q&A section?
kmiloxdxd said:
hey i will change my galaxy s6 for an iphone 6 and an ipad mini 2, cause im tired of samsung with their ram problem lag problem, i dont feel the 3 gb of ram i have G920i with last firmware in 5.1.1, the "promised source code" and cyanogenmod.
later i will buy iPhone 6S,
Bye Samsung, Bye XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or why do you even post this?
kmiloxdxd said:
hey i will change my galaxy s6 for an iphone 6 and an ipad mini 2, cause im tired of samsung with their ram problem lag problem, i dont feel the 3 gb of ram i have G920i with last firmware in 5.1.1, the "promised source code" and cyanogenmod.
later i will buy iPhone 6S,
Bye Samsung, Bye XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bye, I will miss u. Feel free in your new cage
How is iphone 6 different do you get the source code ?. It is also same as s6.
kmiloxdxd said:
hey i will change my galaxy s6 for an iphone 6 and an ipad mini 2, cause im tired of samsung with their ram problem lag problem, i dont feel the 3 gb of ram i have G920i with last firmware in 5.1.1, the "promised source code" and cyanogenmod.
later i will buy iPhone 6S,
Bye Samsung, Bye XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha that's hilarious given that the iPhone 6 has more of a RAM problem than the S6.
Enjoy your constant reloading of every app you switch back to and sub-par operating system features.
Enjoy having to trek through the settings just to turn off mobile data and your forced use of iTunes just to put music on your piece of s#it phone.
Bye bye, enjoy your caged life style with all your friends being too stupid to comprehend anything outside of the Appleverse :highfive:
srahulmca said:
How is iphone 6 different do you get the source code ?. It is also same as s6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously?
Do you have any possibilty to mod an IPhone?? No. OK there is Cydia but it doesn't give you as much modifivation options as Xposed or any oher root app. There is much more development in Android, even on Samsung TW Roms although there will be no CyanogenMod.
I also meant to say that Iphone has very less modification when compared to Android. I was saying it may not be right to go to iphone just because you cannot make much modification to s6 when compared other android phones.
srahulmca said:
How is iphone 6 different do you get the source code ?. It is also same as s6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i can jailbreak iphone 6, with galaxy s6 i hope to install cyanogen and sh*t like that.
XxM4tzexX said:
Seriously?
Do you have any possibilty to mod an IPhone?? No. OK there is Cydia but it doesn't give you as much modifivation options as Xposed or any oher root app. There is much more development in Android, even on Samsung TW Roms although there will be no CyanogenMod.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if i jailbreak my iphone i do NOT lose warrranty, if i trip knox i lose the fcking warranty.
SAMSUNG SUX
XxM4tzexX said:
Seriously?
Do you have any possibilty to mod an IPhone?? No. OK there is Cydia but it doesn't give you as much modifivation options as Xposed or any oher root app. There is much more development in Android, even on Samsung TW Roms although there will be no CyanogenMod.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Things do to work with Apple=iPhone, iPad
Things do to work with Samsung= Android= a million different devices running Android. but thats not bad the thing is Samsung is Stupid making that Sh*twiz laggy and ugly roms.
kmiloxdxd said:
if i jailbreak my iphone i do NOT lose warrranty, if i trip knox i lose the fcking warranty.
SAMSUNG SUX
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
kmiloxdxd said:
Things do to work with Apple=iPhone, iPad
Things do to work with Samsung= Android= a million different devices running Android. but thats not bad the thing is Samsung is Stupid making that Sh*twiz laggy and ugly roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You obviously don't know what you are talking about!!
Technically you loose your warranty if you jailbreak your Apple device. The difference is you can undo the jailbreak.
Knox is a security feature. Yes most people doesn't use it but is very neat if you use Knox for BYOD.
Secondly, of course there are a lot of different Android devices and of course there only apple devices with ios. You can't built a phone and put ios on it but you can put Android on because free sources. Every company using Android has their own skin and customizations for which you haven't got the source code. Or can you built a sense rom for any phone?? Or MIUI?? So Samsung is not different!
And because there are so many different Android devices you can't have the same experience on every phone.
But you do have on all nexus, on all samsung devices and so on...
kmiloxdxd said:
if i jailbreak my iphone i do NOT lose warrranty, if i trip knox i lose the fcking warranty.
SAMSUNG SUX
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try flashing the engineering bootloader and then proceed to root without tripping knox
Roobwz said:
Try flashing the engineering bootloader and then proceed to root without tripping knox
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How can i do this?
XxM4tzexX said:
You obviously don't know what you are talking about!!
Technically you loose your warranty if you jailbreak your Apple device. The difference is you can undo the jailbreak.
Knox is a security feature. Yes most people doesn't use it but is very neat if you use Knox for BYOD.
Secondly, of course there are a lot of different Android devices and of course there only apple devices with ios. You can't built a phone and put ios on it but you can put Android on because free sources. Every company using Android has their own skin and customizations for which you haven't got the source code. Or can you built a sense rom for any phone?? Or MIUI?? So Samsung is not different!
And because there are so many different Android devices you can't have the same experience on every phone.
But you do have on all nexus, on all samsung devices and so on...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You obviously don't know what you are talking about!!
when i had the iPhone 5S i take it to apple because it was weird with camera and i had the jailbreak in ios 7.1.1 and i take it to apple and apple change it to a new one, idk what are you talking about, samsung can denie your warranty because 0x1 in knox
I think it's a matter of obligingness and if the broken part was caused by root / jailbreak. Maybe you were lucky. And samsung is not denying every Knox tripped phone from warranty
XxM4tzexX said:
Seriously?
Do you have any possibilty to mod an IPhone?? No. OK there is Cydia but it doesn't give you as much modifivation options as Xposed or any oher root app. There is much more development in Android, even on Samsung TW Roms although there will be no CyanogenMod.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tell me more about xposed please and how it functions properly on all the variants of the s6 devices. Go on I am waiting.
And your attitude just represents a "s6 hardcorefanboy" who's far worse than an isheep.
Where a normal user would brick his phone up a dozen times just by going through all the **** every android has to just to modify his/her phone in almost an analogical way of the iPhone. The ios user is represented with a more user-friendly way to do this.
Sent from my SM-G920F using XDA Free mobile app
sonikk4ever said:
Tell me more about xposed please and how it functions properly on all the variants of the s6 devices. Go on I am waiting.
And your attitude just represents a "s6 hardcorefanboy" who's far worse than an isheep.
Where a normal user would brick his phone up a dozen times just by going through all the **** every android has to just to modify his/her phone in almost an analogical way of the iPhone. The ios user is represented with a more user-friendly way to do this.
Sent from my SM-G920F using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Xposed is working on the S6. I dont know if every variant is supported since I have the regular S6 Flat.
2. I'm definitly not a hardcore fanboy. Why would you think that??
3. Most rooting/modding ways are a little bit tricky at the beginning but they get more convenient over time
A "normal" user would not root or mod his phone, these things are for people who are interested in playing around.
On iOS it is more "user friendly" since there is no way to install a custom recovery and then custom kernels/roms.
LOL good luck with jailbrick stuff haha even if you got it jailbricked and that is hard to do it this days... what you gonna do it ? Most of good apps still not going to work ! Its like moving from a room to a cage...at least if you wanna move move to note5 or some cyanogin phone....but iphone hell no i rather use nokia 3310...
How could you compare the s6 to the iphone 6? i mean like maybe with the 6s but 6? meh..
Related
Samsung is a manufacturer which is having the most market shares currently.But, their customer aftermarket support is the worst.
As all of us know, the Galaxy line of devices are so successful today for having a sales of up to millions.The reason for this is from the start of the Galaxy S.It is their flagship phone in 2010, with a sales of about 20 million globally. Now, Samsung have made a decision not to upgrade the Galaxy S to the newset Android 4.0. Source: http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/2043
Translated English page by Sammobile : http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/22/official-no-android-4-0-for-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab/
Is it a hardware issue?No, it is because they just don't want to upgrade it and wants people to buy their new phones so they can make more money.And even Sony Ericsson done soooo much better than them. They decided to upgrade their whole 2011 Xperia line of devices, even including the 150$ Xperia Mini.
Yes i know that the Galaxy S is an old device, which already exceeded the 18 months of software update. But well, what happens to its other brother? The Galaxy S Super Clear LCD i9003 which launched about the same time as the Galaxy S2, and the Galaxy S Plus which have not even exceeded 6 months,and the recently Galaxy W,what would happen to them?And also, the Galaxy S have so much similarities to the Nexus S, which had its Ice Cream Sandwich update about 1 week ago.
It is a BIG SHAME that Samsung would make this decision, as these devices are still in the 18 months software update timeline. Is the Google's Android Update Alliance dead? Most of us would probably say yes. If Samsung are not gonna rethink this and release the new update for the Galaxy S phones, I would be sure that this is my first and last Samsung phone ever.Samsung is just caring its sales of new devices and its money.My next phone would be only from Google, the Nexus line.
I'm guessing u have a galaxy s? All companies are like that all they care about is money. Why give it to the old phone when they can Just make a new one and give it to that one and make double or triple the money. Just because their greedy didn't mean its a bad phone. Just saying. Funny thing is I have an HTC
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
These companies are venomous, I'm going to get an n9 even if its a dying breed
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA App
The best part about this post is the last sentence. The Nexus is made by Samsung buddy...
LMAO he doesn't know that Google phones are still made by Samsung (cue the Galaxy Nexus)
Sent from my GT-S5830 using XDA App
ODD PHONE ERA Reply
boss man Kole said:
I'm guessing u have a galaxy s? All companies are like that all they care about is money. Why give it to the old phone when they can Just make a new one and give it to that one and make double or triple the money. Just because their greedy didn't mean its a bad phone. Just saying. Funny thing is I have an HTC
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The market is just a joke now - the devices are all junk really. Everybody can get one now because they're free on contract, and that has totally killed the value of a "smartphone", even if we can get them cheaper now. For this reason, there's no need to cry over spilled milk. I had an HTC Diamond from 2009 up until this year, when it wasn't worth it to repair because the market screwed itself so badly. I (sadly) carry around a Samsung Epic (the superior of all the Galaxy S series), but it'll never be able to replace the magic of Windows Mobile that our quickly moving market/retarded Microsoft has frowned upon.
- 2B
Motorola is the worse when it comes to upgrade
and with their locked bootloader you can't even load custom ROMs
HTC is heading the same way as Moto
If you want updates then next time just get a nexus device next time your available for an upgrade or get a crapple iPhone!! ;p
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
If you are whining about updates why don't you flash a custom rom? Or get a nexus? Oh wait....
Sent from my E10i using XDA App
people who care about receiving the latest update would be on forums like this - by extension you will have dabbled with custom roms.
samsung gave their reason why they couldn't put ICS on the older devices - it involves touchwiz, which is their core skin - samsung aren't going to ditch it for their non nexus devices anytime soon (otherwise every android handset would really be "the same as the next").
load a custom rom with no skins onto your phone and stop complaining, or buy a new device. nobody guaranteed you any updates to the latest firmware - and hell, i wouldn't be surprised if the galaxy s 2 won't receive an update to android letter "J" because the screen resolution is too small or something.
Stop whining and get a new device. I was once a Galaxy S user, and have been through the Eclair, Froyo and Gingerbread era. I am more than satisfied to have this phone supported until Gingerbread. Besides, I can flash the ported ICS rom if I want to.
Wiggy Fuzz said:
people who care about receiving the latest update would be on forums like this - by extension you will have dabbled with custom roms.
samsung gave their reason why they couldn't put ICS on the older devices - it involves touchwiz, which is their core skin - samsung aren't going to ditch it for their non nexus devices anytime soon (otherwise every android handset would really be "the same as the next").
load a custom rom with no skins onto your phone and stop complaining, or buy a new device. nobody guaranteed you any updates to the latest firmware - and hell, i wouldn't be surprised if the galaxy s 2 won't receive an update to android letter "J" because the screen resolution is too small or something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Spot on! Most of the average consumer don't give a damn about what android version they are using, the manufacturer skin and other stuff about that. As long as the phone is works just nice, then they don't care about the versions they are using. I even saw phones (Xperia X8) still stuck at 2.1 and yet the phone works just fine. Did the phone render unusable for not having 4.0? No right? If those guys (especially techies) still whine about manufacturers not giving updates or some sort why don't they flash a custom rom? Problem Solved.
Bro!
This is ****ing XD-****ing-A!
root your phone and flash the ****!
You're pissed off at a company for not putting out OTAs of upgrades?
We're talking about Android here, the OS that I love, that i die for. What are we talking about, Android? We're talking about Android! What are we talking about, Android?
This is XDA homez!
root your phone and flash ICS!
How in the name of Zeus did you go 4 days with a stock ROM on ANY Samsung device? How the **** did you not void your warranty the second you unboxed your phone??
In ALL of the time you spent putting together this very eloquent and moving post, you could have rooted your phone and flashed a custom ROM.
Just wait for CM8 on EVERY device, don't worry about it, you're getting bent out of shape.
Can old S even handle 4.0 hardware wise? How much ram does 4.0 need to run comfortably?
Also, OP, you've clearly NEVER really been a phone enthusiast, have you? Go look up OMNIA HD, for example. People still used and more or less loved it despite how little support it got even from the community.
Skv012a said:
Can old S even handle 4.0 hardware wise? How much ram does 4.0 need to run comfortably?
Also, OP, you've clearly NEVER really been a phone enthusiast, have you? Go look up OMNIA HD, for example. People still used and more or less loved it despite how little support it got even from the community.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah dude, ICS uses like so much less resources then even Sense 1.0, you could probably flash it on a motorola startac
orangekid said:
Bro!
This is ****ing XD-****ing-A!
root your phone and flash the ****!
You're pissed off at a company for not putting out OTAs of upgrades?
We're talking about Android here, the OS that I love, that i die for. What are we talking about, Android? We're talking about Android! What are we talking about, Android?
This is XDA homez!
root your phone and flash ICS!
How in the name of Zeus did you go 4 days with a stock ROM on ANY Samsung device? How the **** did you not void your warranty the second you unboxed your phone??
In ALL of the time you spent putting together this very eloquent and moving post, you could have rooted your phone and flashed a custom ROM.
Just wait for CM9 on EVERY device, don't worry about it, you're getting bent out of shape.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fixed. XD
It is just amusing to see that non-android techies just whine about (Insert phone manufacturer here) not giving updates to (Insert phone of the manufacturer). And OP even rant in a forum called XDA.... Head-------->Wall
What? Did the phone rendered unusable for not having 4.0? Well, you can get a freaking Nexus... and Problem Solved.
BTW Sammy is one of the most dev-friendly manufacturers out there. They tried to make everything open source, having an open bootloader and even gave SGS2s to CM7 developers. They hired Steve Kondik (The guy who worked on the popular CyanogenMod Rom) too. Unlike HTC which locks down bootloaders on their devices and lied about it about the bootloader unlock thingy.
---------- Post added at 02:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:32 AM ----------
orangekid said:
yeah dude, ICS uses like so much less resources then even Sense 1.0, you could probably flash it on a motorola startac
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I lol'd at this.
rocker529 said:
My next phone would be only from Google, the Nexus line.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do realize that last two Nexus phones were made by Samsung, right?
AnyMal said:
You do realize that last two Nexus phones were made by Samsung, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unless OP wants to get a Nexus One which won't be updated to ICS officially....
sooyong94 said:
Fixed. XD
It is just amusing to see that non-android techies just whine about (Insert phone manufacturer here) not giving updates to (Insert phone of the manufacturer). And OP even rant in a forum called XDA.... Head-------->Wall
What? Did the phone rendered unusable for not having 4.0? Well, you can get a freaking Nexus... and Problem Solved.
BTW Sammy is one of the most dev-friendly manufacturers out there. They tried to make everything open source, having an open bootloader and even gave SGS2s to CM7 developers. They hired Steve Kondik (The guy who worked on the popular CyanogenMod Rom) too. Unlike HTC which locks down bootloaders on their devices and lied about it about the bootloader unlock thingy.
---------- Post added at 02:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:32 AM ----------
I lol'd at this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol thx for the fix, was laughing my ass off at Jim Rome and slipped the 8 instead of 9
Just get nexus end of story.
Hello XDA Dev,
I have been searching about Android ICS port to Samsung Focus S (windows phone ) ? but could not find any info anywhere in google...
Is anyone aware of any projects/developers working on it ?
Thank you for your advise..
so? why do you buy a windows phone?
Well one project could be .... sell your focus buy an android ICS phone.
We don't even have an unlocked bootloader to install custom WP7 ROMs on the Focus S yet (it'll come, but it's not available yet). Porting Android to WP7 hardware won't happen anytime very soon, and not to the Focus S specificlaly until we have a lot more access to its bootloader and such.
FAIL
aramadsanar said:
so? why do you buy a windows phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't buy it - Thanks to Microsoft ! MS gave it for free could not refuse an excellent hardware...but my personal opinion; Windows Phone is not close to where it should be compared to Android or IOS...
tolgac said:
Didn't buy it - Thanks to Microsoft ! MS gave it for free could not refuse an excellent hardware...but my personal opinion; Windows Phone is not close to where it should be compared to Android or IOS...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kaiser137 said:
Well one project could be .... sell your focus buy an android ICS phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tried...doesn't even sell for $250 on CL ...I think Samsung Focus S is a beautiful piece of hardware; looking nicer than any other phone - no buyers at $250 for 1 week @ CL ?
Just don't want to give it away - Android Port would convert Focus S to Galaxy SII - Microsoft give away 1000s of these phones for Free... I believe there is a big crowd out there who would be happy with dual-boot...
I wish I had the skills to port but don't...
Also; Android has been ported to almost all the devices - surprised me not to Focus S...
GoodDayToDie said:
We don't even have an unlocked bootloader to install custom WP7 ROMs on the Focus S yet (it'll come, but it's not available yet). Porting Android to WP7 hardware won't happen anytime very soon, and not to the Focus S specificlaly until we have a lot more access to its bootloader and such.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just a quick checkup, do you know of any development for an unlocked bl on the focus S? IMHO it is still the best WP, but it seems neglected compared to others...
jeffreygtab said:
Just a quick checkup, do you know of any development for an unlocked bl on the focus S? IMHO it is still the best WP, but it seems neglected compared to others...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree that it is the most elegant and best WP, too... I don't know if it is me - tried to use it for a day again - I just can't... browser IE is horrible (doesn't resize ) - There are great feedback and reviews about WP but I just can't like it ( perhaps it is just me ? ) yes - it is fast and Samsung Focus S hardware makes it even more attractive with the amazing screen... but noway to use it on daily base for me...Hope; somebody comes with the Android port soon.
If it won't sell for $250, then lower the price.
Kaiser137 said:
If it won't sell for $250, then lower the price.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am ready to contribute who can port android to samsung focus s. I wish I had the skills to port myself
tolgac said:
I am ready to contribute who can port android to samsung focus s. I wish I had the skills to port myself
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never happen. Even if you donated enough to buy 10 phones. Just get a used Galaxy S2.
kenikh said:
Never happen. Even if you donated enough to buy 10 phones. Just get a used Galaxy S2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Galaxy S2 is selling $350 or over used - my brand new Samsung Focus S does not sell it for $200 on Craigslist... So this is how much people like Windows OS
You're trolling with the wrong crowd, homie.
Galaxy SII is made of newer, more expensive to license parts for one. Also Samsung Focus S's were free for a while so their value is obviously lowered. Obvious Troll is obvious.
i am with the op on this. i got my focus flash by trading a pair of lg tone plus headset.
I want $300 and people want it for only $175 or so. I would love to have android and all my apps like hulu!
People wont even trade or want me to give them money.. i even tried to trade for a iphone 3gs and they wanted me to give them money. I had to explain that they focus flash has a 3.7 screen vs 3.5 screen, 480x800 screen on focus flash, super amoled screen, more then double the cpu speed, double the system ram.... and that i wanted atleast $100 from him... since my phone has better specs....
Sometimes we just take a phone because it is gotten for free and have no other recourse....
Thread was dead and should have stayed that way honestly Closing this one now.
I am quite interested how the independent development of this device is gonna turn and if anyone is in the mood on forgetting their fear of spoiler, what are ideas on hand on how can a custom ROM can make use of the secondary screen or it doesn't look good according to Samsung's SDK?
(Did not have the chance on see the SDK myself and probably will not have the time until further notice) and quite frankly I might sit as an spectator rather than helping in development for this one.
99% this will be the next device for which i will develop both a rom and a kernel..
I have no plans so there will be no spoilers here the only plan i have is to mod the _______ out of the secondary screen...
Im waiting for the 1st system dump to see what we have to play with here..
and of course for the samsung official source...
I dont know why people look down on this device..
Its like the DISAPPOINTING Note 4 but with something new for once..
We will see..
Im glad to see some interest on this device..
great news
friedrich420 said:
99% this will be the next device for which i will develop both a rom and a kernel..
I have no plans so there will be no spoilers here the only plan i have is to mod the _______ out of the secondary screen...
Im waiting for the 1st system dump to see what we have to play with here..
and of course for the samsung official source...
I dont know why people look down on this device..
Its like the DISAPPOINTING Note 4 but with something new for once..
We will see..
Im glad to see some interest on this device..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is very encouraging. I agree with you. You can get a note 4, or a note 4 plus a cool new feature. Why not the edge?
I am not a developer at all, but I cannot live with stock roms for the sake of me! I am 99% sure to be getting a Note Edge, and I am so happy to see there is a dev already onboard with it!
My question is... this is obviously touchwiz... but do you see the "Edge" screen ever being implemented in custom AOSP roms fot the Note Edge in the future? Or would flashing AOSP make that Edge screen completely black...?
Thanks
iZack187 said:
I am not a developer at all, but I cannot live with stock roms for the sake of me! I am 99% sure to be getting a Note Edge, and I am so happy to see there is a dev already onboard with it!
My question is... this is obviously touchwiz... but do you see the "Edge" screen ever being implemented in custom AOSP roms fot the Note Edge in the future? Or would flashing AOSP make that Edge screen completely black...?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont see why that would be impossible. Def not easy but there are some great minds out there
But my experience says that first you will see a few TW kernels before an AOSP one.. And usually the 1st AOSP takes a while.. And it needs a few releases before it can be a daily driver..
And im sorry i may disappoint you my man but i build roms and kernels for TW.. I know.. we all have our flaws
friedrich420 said:
I dont see why that would be impossible. Def not easy but there are some great minds out there
But my experience says that first you will see a few TW kernels before an AOSP one.. And usually the 1st AOSP takes a while.. And it needs a few releases before it can be a daily driver..
And im sorry i may disappoint you my man but i build roms and kernels for TW.. I know.. we all have our flaws
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hahha, don't worry, you do your thing! I have a complicated relationship with Samsung... I love their galaxy line, yet hate TouchWiz lol. But just like any new galaxy device, TW roms are always up first, and AOSP a few months later. As long as every single samsung bloatware can be removed from TW and xposed framework is running, I'm satisfied lol
All I'll NEED is root for exposed, and very debloated. And I'll be happy.
Maybe a blue/black theme.
iZack187 said:
hahha, don't worry, you do your thing! I have a complicated relationship with Samsung... I love their galaxy line, yet hate TouchWiz lol. But just like any new galaxy device, TW roms are always up first, and AOSP a few months later. As long as every single samsung bloatware can be removed from TW and xposed framework is running, I'm satisfied lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cloaker said:
All I'll NEED is root for exposed, and very debloated. And I'll be happy.
Maybe a blue/black theme.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will definitely have those
I LOVE this thread!! Your requests are the best because they are definitely doable
Ill make an aroma to give the option for what bloat you will want to install or not install. If aroma causes us any issues i can always make a "debloater" (its a simple script that you flash and remove the bloat you want)
Something that worries me though you guys.. Is is gonna be only in a few markets?? I read that initially it maybe only in Asian Markets
Well I'm not sure where you are, but I'm in the US.
It will be coming for sure to all 4 major carriers here.
Cloaker said:
Well I'm not sure where you are, but I'm in the US.
It will be coming for sure to all 4 major carriers here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im in the "Land of Whatever" or "Banana Republic" if you prefer
Cyprus my man...
Thats encouraging! If all 4 carriers will have it then i think it will come in Europe as well...
when it will be available in america?
friedrich420 said:
Something that worries me though you guys.. Is is gonna be only in a few markets?? I read that initially it maybe only in Asian Markets
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know the Note 4 is coming everywhere, but you are right... the Note Edge is restricted to a limited market. Usually, that means the phone will be available in all countries but at full price. Anyways, we should all expect a "premium" price for this device, Samsung said so themselves, already trying to save up, lol. I'm in Canada, I doubt it will come here, but I'm pretty confident I'll be able to import it somehow. With all the current technology it has, it should have multiple LTE radios in it.
friedrich420 said:
I LOVE this thread!! Your requests are the best because they are definitely doable (
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hahaha, funny, you know what I LOVE? The fact you want to try to mod the _______ out of the secondary screen! :highfive:
My main concern is which Provider will I go with? I have both VZW and Sprint and the note 3 was dominated by Sprint Developers but yet some previous High end devices dominated by VZW devs..I obviously want to go with where it's hot.
I know for sure it will be available mid October on AT&T in the U.S. and will be available with the edge upgrade.
This Note 3 and I have rocked on together for the past year with Hyperdrive ROM. But this new device just screams "Buy me and impress everyone!"
I have money banked for the Note Edge, full retail. But I've seen price estimates as high as USD $1300! How on EARTH I can mentally justify paying half again for a phone's "coolness" isn't something I've completely reconciled yet... but if I do get the Edge, I will likely have it for at least two or three years. The Darling Bride will have a cow - I mean, she will give live birth to a bovine creature - if she finds out I just plunked down that much payola for a PHONE. This had better be really, really good, because it's going to be me and that phone in the doghouse until around Christmas!
It doesn't help that she watched the Unpacked event and wants her own Note 4. That's putting a hurt in the wallet!
Back on topic: will the developer community embrace this "limited availability" device, or concentrate on the Note 4? I want the Edge, but I REALLY want a rooted and ROMmed Edge.
It seems that the Edge has the same functionality as the Note 4... with the added functionality of the edge screen. So a ROM for the Note 4 should easily be ported over to the Edge with just a few extra lines of code. One would think.
So I really, really hope that you fine developers find a root exploit, a suitable bootstrap method, and start cranking out ROMs for the Edge. That would be the icing on the cake, baby!
I'm really interested in the Note 4 Edge but from what I've read about the device is that it's extremely annoying to hold and use with one hand. You keep activating the side screen when trying to hold the device tight enough for it not to fall. I can't see any way custom software would get around that issue.
On the other hand, I wish Samsung kept up with their pattern and made it a 5.9" device, even if just for the sake of having a bigger battery. A 20 mAh increase is practically no increase, especially when you're driving that many more pixels. I'm worried about battery life on this thing.
The real question since this device is certain to hit all four major US Carriers. Which carriers will have the bootloader locked down to damn near uselessness. I am willing to bet AT&T and Verizon will have them locked down to hell (For sure AT&T I mean the whole S line starting with the S4 are still locked down as in no custom kernels which is annoying to say the least).
malickie said:
The real question since this device is certain to hit all four major US Carriers. Which carriers will have the bootloader locked down to damn near uselessness. I am willing to bet AT&T and Verizon will have them locked down to hell (For sure AT&T I mean the whole S line starting with the S4 are still locked down as in no custom kernels which is annoying to say the least).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OH I can assure you that Verizon's bootloader will be locked down and it'll be bloated to smithereens! Now that Hashcode has stopped all development for Safestrap, I'm really hoping and praying that another developer will take the torch, so to speak, and create a bootstrapper for the Note 4 & Note Edge. Once we have a root exploit and a bootstrap, let the ROMming begin!
The-Chief said:
OH I can assure you that Verizon's bootloader will be locked down and it'll be bloated to smithereens! Now that Hashcode has stopped all development for Safestrap, I'm really hoping and praying that another developer will take the torch, so to speak, and create a bootstrapper for the Note 4 & Note Edge. Once we have a root exploit and a bootstrap, let the ROMming begin!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why I'm leaning towards the Sprint one. It seems like they don't do a lot of "lockdowns" on their devices..
With the American S7 using the Snapdragon 820 how long do you guys think until we start seeing some?
P.S, Where is the T-Mobile S7 flat threads?
ethanscooter said:
With the American S7 using the Snapdragon 820 how long do you guys think until we start seeing some?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A long time, and it will be buggy since Samsung is not going to release full kernel sources, drivers for non-Snapdragon components, etc. If you get this phone, you should be willing to live with TouchWiz for a long time.
ethanscooter said:
P.S, Where is the T-Mobile S7 flat threads?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s7/
To be honest it might be a while and even then as has been the case for years there will always be things broken and cant/won't be fixed.
That is the price you pay for using a Samsung device but soon it won't matter as all development will be for nexus devices only.
zelendel said:
That is the price you pay for using a Samsung device but soon it won't matter as all development will be for nexus devices only.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, I'm curious, what do you mean with this? I know that there are some rumors that Google would like to regulate Android development more (e.g.e enforce more timely updates)... but this would not imply that it is only for nexus devices.
cerbsium said:
Hi, I'm curious, what do you mean with this? I know that there are some rumors that Google would like to regulate Android development more (e.g.e enforce more timely updates)... but this would not imply that it is only for nexus devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What I mean by this is that with locking of bootloaders, Knox, s-on (for HTC devices) and what not sooner or later all other devices will be so locked down that there won't be any development for them.
zelendel said:
What I mean by this is that with locking of bootloaders, Knox, s-on (for HTC devices) and what not sooner or later all other devices will be so locked down that there won't be any development for them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This will be sad. =/
Riizq said:
This will be sad. =/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well that is the thing. Obama said it best. You can either have 100% freedom or 100% security, not both. And with android trying to break into the Enterprise market, security is the biggest thing. Also I can easily see things happening. I mean if you really look at it, Any one that releases a TW based rom could easily be sued by samsung. Or anyone that releases an OEM rom for that matter.
zelendel said:
Well that is the thing. Obama said it best. You can either have 100% freedom or 100% security, not both. And with android trying to break into the Enterprise market, security is the biggest thing. Also I can easily see things happening. I mean if you really look at it, Any one that releases a TW based rom could easily be sued by samsung. Or anyone that releases an OEM rom for that matter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This post reminds me of the movie Braveheart.
"What will you do with freedom. Will you fight...? "
There will be a revolution then yeah? Haha.
Riizq said:
This post reminds me of the movie Braveheart.
"What will you do with freedom. Will you fight...? "
There will be a revolution then yeah? Haha.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh there is at least in the states. Sooner or later it is coming. Not sure if it will be before, during or after the next world war but it will happen.
On the mobile front. Not really. People have been to well trained to be able to just walk away from their devices. Alot have gone the route and now only buy nexus devices.
zelendel said:
soon it won't matter as all development will be for nexus devices only.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is sad as it's impossible to get a Nexus phone that has:
1) OLED screen
2) Removable battery
3) MicroSD slot
sremick said:
This is sad as it's impossible to get a Nexus phone that has:
1) OLED screen
2) Removable battery
3) MicroSD slot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is true but nexus devices are meant to be development devices. Not really meant to compete with flagship devices. Even I carry 2 devices. One as a daily driver and one for development. And Google hates micro SD cards.
Really !!! Why do people buy Samsung Devices ?
Yes I own a Galaxy S7 and yes I know what board this is but
The phone provided to me by work and I am stuck with it
This is a work phone I can not debloat, root, do custom ROMs
So what do I have,
I have a device that will never see Android 8.1, hell even the S 9 is at 8.0 "You know the S 9 may get Android 9.0 in the summer of 2019 if they are lucky.
I will not hold my breath for even 8.0
Every second day it seems Samsung pushes on my device some "Samsung" bloat they think I want, I which I can never uninstall and if I try to disable it, it will turn back on.
They feel they have a great, interface..... Without Nova Launcher I will be lost.
Thank you for not having Bixby..... maybe Samsung will decide to push that piece of junk to the S7 but for now I am free
Really I hate the S7, the bloat, being locked down, the lack of updates but people still buy them ?
Why ?
Maybe a major market is Corporations that like locked down devices.
Yes the company says here is your S7 ..... enjoy.
I hate the Samsung S9 so much I may actually buy my own device for work "The Pixel", think I will wait for the Pixel 3 but then ..... to Samsung so long and thanks for the Bloat.
Because they are good at making commercials so they lie people. And people are stupid and buying every year the new Samsung. They don't give a damn about android, they just want the latest model from Samsung.
@andrei1412
Not really... Samsung is simply the best hardware manufacturer, best amoled display (always the brightest every year), best camera (yes other manufacurer are building nice ones too), really good build quality overall, Samsung theme store (to establish android vanilla look, who else is featureing this?). You don't need to debloat since you don't neeed to use the samsung apps. Debloating can lead to increased battery drain.
As they said above, usually the best hardware for droid phones at that point in time and the Samsung hype makes it same league as iPhone so anyone who dislikes Apple usually go Samsung if they don't go HTC, or moto. For me I have owned the majority of every galaxy s and these phones with custom roms always seemed to be the best droid phone on the market in terms of battery life and performance.
stuey25 said:
As they said above, usually the best hardware for droid phones at that point in time and the Samsung hype makes it same league as iPhone so anyone who dislikes Apple usually go Samsung if they don't go HTC, or moto. For me I have owned the majority of every galaxy s and these phones with custom roms always seemed to be the best droid phone on the market in terms of battery life and performance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What custom rom you think is the best for galaxy s7? And also it`s worth to root it and lose spay & other things that work only with knox? Thanks
cristiandiaconu6 said:
What custom rom you think is the best for galaxy s7? And also it`s worth to root it and lose spay & other things that work only with knox? Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably not worth it if you use those features, I think some of the roms can be ran with no root cause there based on stock and still use that stuff but I'm not sure about Knox. I've only had this s7 flat for a week and tried, bobcat rom, slim stable 2.0, and I'm on ultimate nougat now. I'm really liking ultimate nougats look with the theme,battery life so far, and the debloat.
These 3 seem stable but there's a ton of roms to choose from so you would have to test for yourself to determine your best and read/ sift through the threads and see what people are saying about the rom.
You can disable all bloat using a package disabler, which works without root. Android 8.0 is coming in 2 weeks, and I don't know why you even want 8.1 because there are almost no changes to talk about. Even 8.0's most notable feature PIP has been available in Samsung devices for a long time.
Your problems about rooting and custom ROMs are only because it's a work phone.
It looks like you didn't research any of your problems before coming to rant here :/
AstroDigital said:
Really !!! Why do people buy Samsung Devices ?
Yes I own a Galaxy S7 and yes I know what board this is but
The phone provided to me by work and I am stuck with it
This is a work phone I can not debloat, root, do custom ROMs
So what do I have,
I have a device that will never see Android 8.1, hell even the S 9 is at 8.0 "You know the S 9 may get Android 9.0 in the summer of 2019 if they are lucky.
I will not hold my breath for even 8.0
Every second day it seems Samsung pushes on my device some "Samsung" bloat they think I want, I which I can never uninstall and if I try to disable it, it will turn back on.
They feel they have a great, interface..... Without Nova Launcher I will be lost.
Thank you for not having Bixby..... maybe Samsung will decide to push that piece of junk to the S7 but for now I am free
Really I hate the S7, the bloat, being locked down, the lack of updates but people still buy them ?
Why ?
Maybe a major market is Corporations that like locked down devices.
Yes the company says here is your S7 ..... enjoy.
I hate the Samsung S9 so much I may actually buy my own device for work "The Pixel", think I will wait for the Pixel 3 but then ..... to Samsung so long and thanks for the Bloat.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to build your own device.
Bcs Samsung is damn good in hardware software and build quality.
Now I'm texting this post with my 4th S7.
And my Past list is like below just read it and u can understand why we use Samsung devices.
1 galaxy Grand.
3 galaxy s7
1 galaxy s4
2 galaxy s5
2 galaxy note3
2 galaxy note4
1 galaxy note5
1 galaxy a6 edge 64gb
2 galaxy s6 64gb
1 galaxy a7 edge
4 galaxy s7
All this bcs of build quality
Awesome software
Awesome ui
And best resale value
And others for time pass is
3 Nexus 5
1 moto g4
1 mi 4i.
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app
rahul1533 said:
Try to build your own device.
Bcs Samsung is damn good in hardware software and build quality.
Now I'm texting this post with my 4th S7.
And my Past list is like below just read it and u can understand why we use Samsung devices.
1 galaxy Grand.
3 galaxy s7
1 galaxy s4
2 galaxy s5
2 galaxy note3
2 galaxy note4
1 galaxy note5
1 galaxy a6 edge 64gb
2 galaxy s6 64gb
1 galaxy a7 edge
4 galaxy s7
All this bcs of build quality
Awesome software
Awesome ui
And best resale value
And others for time pass is
3 Nexus 5
1 moto g4
1 mi 4i.
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We (as a household) have a rather large number of Samsung devices - the S7 is, in fact, the first one that was NOT purchased deliberately (I got it as a gift) and replaced the far-older Galaxy Nexus (which I got from my mother). We also have two Galaxy tablets and four Samsung HDTVs (and two Samsung optical drives). Why all the Samsung hardware? Three words - bang for buck. Look at ALL the areas in which Samsung makes hardware (from Android to PC to appliances they have (and rather consistently) offered top-ten bang-for-buck - and not just in the US; if you do that, your products will sell. Are they perfect? No; however, who is? Even the folks that have DINGED Samsung admit that it is often due to issues with a specific Samsung product or a specific lack (in the case of the S7, it's about the locked bootloader). Still, is an unlocked bootloader that big a plus on the devices that compete with the S7 and up? How many of those devices have issues WORSE than those of the S7 and above - even with the locked bootloader (such as the Pixel and Pixel2)?
DarkerJava said:
You can disable all bloat using a package disabler, which works without root. Android 8.0 is coming in 2 weeks, and I don't know why you even want 8.1 because there are almost no changes to talk about. Even 8.0's most notable feature PIP has been available in Samsung devices for a long time.
Your problems about rooting and custom ROMs are only because it's a work phone.
It looks like you didn't research any of your problems before coming to rant here :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
8.0 Not in Canada and I do not know if Rogers ever plans on it. "Think I seen somewhere Summer 2018, oh sure"
BK Package Manager only disables and freezes, nothing that you can not do without buy it. "Can not uninstall and with only 5Gig left it would be good to get rid of some bloat"
DarkerJava said:
You can disable all bloat using a package disabler, which works without root. Android 8.0 is coming in 2 weeks, and I don't know why you even want 8.1 because there are almost no changes to talk about. Even 8.0's most notable feature PIP has been available in Samsung devices for a long time.
Your problems about rooting and custom ROMs are only because it's a work phone.
It looks like you didn't research any of your problems before coming to rant here :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2 weeks ? They said summer.
Ah, if a phone ain't got the latest and greatest government tracking software I don't want it. So I'm gonna go to xda and post a "why do people buy" but talk about samdung bloat over all mighty Google. I hate I hate I hate. People should just buy Google devices cause I like them!!!! They push the only thing I care about, the .1's, and oh, you need to see what they do when they jump a full .0 again. Oh man
What 8.0/8.1 feature are you desperate for?
What other sub 5.3" phone has best amoled screen, top camera, large battery, top procecessor, wireless charging, ip68? Please tell me of this other phone
AstroDigital said:
8.0 Not in Canada and I do not know if Rogers ever plans on it. "Think I seen somewhere Summer 2018, oh sure"
BK Package Manager only disables and freezes, nothing that you can not do without buy it. "Can not uninstall and with only 5Gig left it would be good to get rid of some bloat"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm also in Canada and usually we get updates without delay after their release from Samsung. From what I've seen (on their OS upgrade schedule), they only announce the release dates for updates a couple of days before we actually get them. My source is another phone carrier in another country: http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon .
For the bloatware, you can uninstall all updates and keep the stubs (which will remove most of the app), and then freeze the app using AdHell or SABS. Although there isn't much bloatware to start with on phones in Canada.
---------- Post added at 08:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:01 PM ----------
Soufiansky said:
2 weeks ? They said summer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon
DarkerJava said:
I'm also in Canada and usually we get updates without delay after their release from Samsung. From what I've seen (on their OS upgrade schedule), they only announce the release dates for updates a couple of days before we actually get them. My source is another phone carrier in another country: http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon .
For the bloatware, you can uninstall all updates and keep the stubs (which will remove most of the app), and then freeze the app using AdHell or SABS. Although there isn't much bloatware to start with on phones in Canada.
---------- Post added at 08:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:01 PM ----------
http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not official. I would only trust samsung website,sammobile or some other known websites.
AstroDigital said:
Really !!! Why do people buy Samsung Devices ?
Yes I own a Galaxy S7 and yes I know what board this is but
The phone provided to me by work and I am stuck with it
This is a work phone I can not debloat, root, do custom ROMs
So what do I have,
I have a device that will never see Android 8.1, hell even the S 9 is at 8.0 "You know the S 9 may get Android 9.0 in the summer of 2019 if they are lucky.
I will not hold my breath for even 8.0
Every second day it seems Samsung pushes on my device some "Samsung" bloat they think I want, I which I can never uninstall and if I try to disable it, it will turn back on.
They feel they have a great, interface..... Without Nova Launcher I will be lost.
Thank you for not having Bixby..... maybe Samsung will decide to push that piece of junk to the S7 but for now I am free
Really I hate the S7, the bloat, being locked down, the lack of updates but people still buy them ?
Why ?
Maybe a major market is Corporations that like locked down devices.
Yes the company says here is your S7 ..... enjoy.
I hate the Samsung S9 so much I may actually buy my own device for work "The Pixel", think I will wait for the Pixel 3 but then ..... to Samsung so long and thanks for the Bloat.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is one of the most imbecile rant I read on XDA so far: the real question is why your company is giving you a phone you don't like and you should ask your company.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 PM ----------
vand3537 said:
What 8.0/8.1 feature are you desperate for?
What other sub 5.3" phone has best amoled screen, top camera, large battery, top procecessor, wireless charging, ip68? Please tell me of this other phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the feature he wants is when he is looking at Software Information and Android Version to see the Number 8.1. He can't name other feature because he doesn't know one.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
most imbecile rant I do not call people names maybe you should look in a mirror.
You know what I find imbecilic is Samsung fanboys, you claim you like Android yet you sign up with a company that does not give you a pure Android Experience.
You are so blind to Samsung you do not realize their hardware is not significantly better than from other manufacturers.
Amoled unless if you are and anal idiot, displays are subjective
Top Camera this is a S7 while the camera is good "it is not the best"
Large battery do you suppose other phone have significantly worse better live ?
Top processor many phones have newer generation processors, but like the "best" display the processor even on a 2 year old device runs everything fine.
Wireless Charging is at times convenient but not a deal maker you do know Wireless chargers are slower and not as efficient as chargers that some people have a hard time with figuring out. "Do some research look it up"
IP68 once again, you know out of the several dozen Android devices I purchased ....... not one ever got water damaged.
Out of all of these ......
I rather have Android as it is meet to be from the inventors non modified and non skinned
Hardware be damned
And yes I know what Google introduced in 8.1 https://www.xda-developers.com/android-8-1-oreo-developer-preview-features/
The Essential phone skipped Android 8.0 and when directly to 8.1
Samsung S9 and S9+ released with 8.0
Rogers at the time only had the Samsung S7, no other devices.
Flaming is not tolerated on XDA and any escalation in this thread will result in action against the users at fault and/or the thread being closed.
Hopefully this discussion can be a civil exchange of opinions from both Samsung haters and lovers alike. We must all accept that as human beings, each one of us is entitled to our opinion and/or preferences, regardless of whether they're seen as logical or not by others.
Keep it cool, dudes.
AstroDigital said:
most imbecile rant I do not call people names maybe you should look in a mirror.
You know what I find imbecilic is Samsung fanboys, you claim you like Android yet you sign up with a company that does not give you a pure Android Experience.
You are so blind to Samsung you do not realize their hardware is not significantly better than from other manufacturers.
Amoled unless if you are and anal idiot, displays are subjective
Top Camera this is a S7 while the camera is good "it is not the best"
Large battery do you suppose other phone have significantly worse better live ?
Top processor many phones have newer generation processors, but like the "best" display the processor even on a 2 year old device runs everything fine.
Wireless Charging is at times convenient but not a deal maker you do know Wireless chargers are slower and not as efficient as chargers that some people have a hard time with figuring out. "Do some research look it up"
IP68 once again, you know out of the several dozen Android devices I purchased ....... not one ever got water damaged.
Out of all of these ......
I rather have Android as it is meet to be from the inventors non modified and non skinned
Hardware be damned
And yes I know what Google introduced in 8.1 https://www.xda-developers.com/android-8-1-oreo-developer-preview-features/
The Essential phone skipped Android 8.0 and when directly to 8.1
Samsung S9 and S9+ released with 8.0
Rogers at the time only had the Samsung S7, no other devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They may not have significantly better hardware now, but it was still the best of its time. The camera was the best until the Pixel came out half a year later. There were no compromises with this phone, and as much as you try make hardware features not seem not as important, they make a difference when choosing between something like a iPhone 6s/7 and another device.
And now I ask, how is anything of what you've said detract from the Android experience? Samsung may add features to Android, but they don't ever take away. I can also fully reskin Touchwiz to look like stock with any theme I like using Substratum and Nova Launcher. I also don't know why Android 8.1 is so important to you, as everything is just a UI change.
You probably shouldn't have bought a 2 year old non-Google phone if you wanted to jerk off to having the latest UI from Google. Also, you should realize that many people don't care about simple UI changes or optical differences. Maybe if we were iOS users, we would care, but this is a forum for Android enthusiasts.
Don't call others fanboys or other silly names just because they have different expectations when they buy a device.
---------- Post added at 04:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:49 PM ----------
Soufiansky said:
It's not official. I would only trust samsung website,sammobile or some other known websites.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess we will see in 2 weeks. Again, when is the last time Samsung announced the specific date for an update well before it releases?
I did not start the name calling but when "coradux" called me an imbecile, who would not take it personally.
I own a S7 now, will likely be buying a Pixel XL 3 "or whatever it is called in October"
Some people like me want quick updates and pure Android, others do not care.
I really did not know what I hoped to prove from this post. I think it should be closed.