im thinking of buying this or note 4 i have an s5 right now. does rooting debloat and fixing the thermal settings fix the lag and overheating?or is there anything else that will. im a heavy user play switch in between games alot and depend on a decent battery life and dont like lag.
Basically same question here, except i already bought it.
By the way, i got it rooted.
I just got my Flex 2 and after debloating and tuning the thermal configuration I'm really enjoying it! Performs great.
dbvolcom said:
im thinking of buying this or note 4 i have an s5 right now. does rooting debloat and fixing the thermal settings fix the lag and overheating?or is there anything else that will. im a heavy user play switch in between games alot and depend on a decent battery life and dont like lag.
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Debloat and thermal settings has turned my phone into a powerhouse. On an average day, I see no more battery drain on the Flex 2 than I did on the original Flex (with a bigger battery and a smaller number of cores). However, if you're heavily into gaming, the GPU will certainly be enough, but for 3D intensive games the battery drains rather quickly (as expected, really).
I have compiled a list of everything I've removed for debloating here.
So no issues with overheating? I switch between games like madden , clash of clans, boom beach, magic rampage, and outwitters constantly so I was worried about the heating issue for a heavy user such as myself
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So no issues with overheating? I switch between games like madden , clash of clans, boom beach, magic rampage, and outwitters constantly so I was worried about the heating issue for a heavy user such as myself
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The thermal throttling settings are still enabled, just set to a higher temperature. I have mine set to 65°C (as per the thermal throttling thread), and I know processors can get much hotter than that without failing (Apparently the HTC flagship cores get up to 80°C, don't while me on this, it's just a passive memory).
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I generally get great battery life using regular apps throughout the day. But many games seems to eat up battery life quicker than I would have thought. That coupled with how hot my phone gets, I'm a little worried there may be an issue with my phone.
The two games where my phone feels like it is burning up are Plants vs Zombies 2 and Anomaly 2. After playing a session, a quick look at the battery graph shows an extremely steep drop.
Is this normal? Maybe it is, but it doesn't feel or seem right.
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I generally get great battery life using regular apps throughout the day. But many games seems to eat up battery life quicker than I would have thought. That coupled with how hot my phone gets, I'm a little worried there may be an issue with my phone.
The two games where my phone feels like it is burning up are Plants vs Zombies 2 and Anomaly 2. After playing a session, a quick look at the battery graph shows an extremely steep drop.
Is this normal? Maybe it is, but it doesn't feel or seem right.
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its normal. cpu and gpu intensive games will warm up your device to a toasty level. but that why they make the phone have a thermal throttle. when it hits a certain temp, you phone will automatically reduce the cpu speed to cool down a little. but the heat from gpu/cpu intensive games is more than normal, its expected. btw, the safety shutdown temp for the n5 is 100C, which youll never reach because of the thermal throttle, only if you have root and disable thermal throttle, then it could hit the safety shutdown temp
I know about the problem with Plants vs Zombies 2, it eats through battery like crazy. I don't think that there is an issue with your phone, because your battery doesn't drop like that at any other intensive game, does it?
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I've noticed the exact same thing with PvZ 2. It's addictive as all hell, but chews through my battery.
I really wish they would release it on the Amazon Appstore so I could put it on my Kindle Fire. Unfortunately, because of the Google Play integration you can't even sideload it to a Kindle, you just get a black screen when you try to launch it.
Tudorrrr said:
I know about the problem with Plants vs Zombies 2, it eats through battery like crazy. I don't think that there is an issue with your phone, because your battery doesn't drop like that at any other intensive game, does it?
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I don't play any intensive games actually and I wouldn't even catagorize PvZ2 as intensive. Maybe it is just suboptimally coded apps. Anomaly2 isn't even really that intensive. Not like a FPS/3D game anyway.
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I generally get great battery life using regular apps throughout the day. But many games seems to eat up battery life quicker than I would have thought. That coupled with how hot my phone gets, I'm a little worried there may be an issue with my phone.
The two games where my phone feels like it is burning up are Plants vs Zombies 2 and Anomaly 2. After playing a session, a quick look at the battery graph shows an extremely steep drop.
Is this normal? Maybe it is, but it doesn't feel or seem right.
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PvZ2 is terrible. Get Franco kernel + his updater app. Set the per app mode of PvZ @ 652MHz. Still runs fine. The only difference you will notice is when the last big wave hits, there can be a little slow down, but it goes away quickly. With all 4 cores running at 652MHz, there is virtually no heat. Will get you 1+ hour more game time. I'm experimenting with underclocking the GPU for it as well. I don't want to underclock the phone when I'm just using apps, but these games are using much more power than they need to be using. 4x, at least.
I think it's poor coding, as @flintdragon suggested.
I just read this over on phonearena and wondered if anyone else saw it and has tried it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...-visibility-of-the-LG-G3-without-root_id58888
Im tempted to try it but hesitant too.
It'll increase the overall performance of the phone, at the cost of a little bit battery life, since turning off thermal mitigation allows the cpu to clock at a higher speed more often while ignoring the heat.
I cant decide if its worth it. For the most part I dont have any complaints about the brightness but I also use Lux.
While it was a different phone I did this same thing with my LG G Pro with no adverse effects to the phones operation in just over a year. It is still going strong in fact, so I dont fear phone damage by doing this but on this phone I havent seen the need for it yet.
I've been using this setting for some time now. I see no decrease in battery life, indeed I've seen nothing negative from it.
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I've had both thermal settings off for a while now as well, it only powered down from heat once and that was because I was chrome casting Netflix and playing a intensive 3d game. Other than that it's fine, however I would expect it to get hot doing 2 large processes anyway. Battery life is still 4-5hiues SOT
By doing this my phone over heats and the turns itself off. Was running fine for a while with it on but I guess it was to much for the phone to handle.
Got it a week and i noticed that it got very hot when i play. Just asking is this bad? Or doesnt it mather?
I just played a 3d racing game and the phone got hot. I was on 3g. (i think in flight mode it gets a lettle less hot) i played 10min racing and the phone was damn hot. Special at the camera.
I hope this wont hurt the phone cause i like gaming. Games like gta san. Cause i remember when i played gta san on my dads galaxy s3 and i played 1h30 gta san in flight mode and phone wasnt that hot like thr oneplus.
Its still hot the oneplus. Its 5min that i stoped playing and its still hot
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Got it a week and i noticed that it got very hot when i play. Just asking is this bad? Or doesnt it mather?
I just played a 3d racing game and the phone got hot. I was on 3g. (i think in flight mode it gets a lettle less hot) i played 10min racing and the phone was damn hot. Special at the camera.
I hope this wont hurt the phone cause i like gaming. Games like gta san. Cause i remember when i played gta san on my dads galaxy s3 and i played 1h30 gta san in flight mode and phone wasnt that hot like thr oneplus.
Its still hot the oneplus. Its 5min that i stoped playing and its still hot
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use kernel manager like franco updater, trickster etc, create per app profile in it, apply undervolt to that game app
Haters_Gonna_H8 said:
use kernel manager like franco updater, trickster etc, create per app profile in it, apply undervolt to that game app
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Havent rooted it. Just have cpu speed at 2ghz and profile balanced always forget to go in performance isnt realy needed any way. But just to ask wont it hurt the phone when i play. Saw somewhere that the cooling is different on this phone thats why it feel so hot but that it was just like any otherphone. But just want to be sure that it wont hurt my baby. Hihi
reggiexp said:
Havent rooted it. Just have cpu speed at 2ghz and profile balanced always forget to go in performance isnt realy needed any way. But just to ask wont it hurt the phone when i play. Saw somewhere that the cooling is different on this phone thats why it feel so hot but that it was just like any otherphone. But just want to be sure that it wont hurt my baby. Hihi
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Reason why your phone's heating up quickly, is because it's running at full speed (which is overkill imo for games), by underclocking or using a custom kernel with a different governor, it'd help since the governors will turn off unneccessary cores on the cpu, and scale the cpu clock (the speed) accordingly.
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Havent rooted it. Just have cpu speed at 2ghz and profile balanced always forget to go in performance isnt realy needed any way. But just to ask wont it hurt the phone when i play. Saw somewhere that the cooling is different on this phone thats why it feel so hot but that it was just like any otherphone. But just want to be sure that it wont hurt my baby. Hihi
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it wont if you apply the undervolt properly. please read more on undervolting. its safe as long you dont go overboard.
different handphones have different hardware placements. take xperia Z series for an example, sony designed their z series with a heat tunneling. this is something that opo doesnt have. iinm, the heating while gaming is highly correlated with the way opo was designed. pretty much lesser space available for the heat to disseminate. and the cpu is place on the upper side of the device. try touching the rear camera while playing a graphic hungry game for at least 10 minutes. you will notice the heat.
but dont be alarmed, the device is properly designed to auto shutdown whenever it reaches an unsafe temperature.
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Reason why your phone's heating up quickly, is because it's running at full speed (which is overkill imo for games), by underclocking or using a custom kernel with a different governor, it'd help since the governors will turn off unneccessary cores on the cpu, and scale the cpu clock (the speed) accordingly.
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okay cool yeah i dont see the point of 2.5ghz. for a phone i only wanted s801 for its higher clocked GPU thats all and cpu i mean 1.7 till 2ghz should do the jobs for games. okay will try to root it when my internet is working a bit better. (for redownloading all my apps. and a custom rom maybe)
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it wont if you apply the undervolt properly. please read more on undervolting. its safe as long you dont go overboard.
different handphones have different hardware placements. take xperia Z series for an example, sony designed their z series with a heat tunneling. this is something that opo doesnt have.
but dont be alarmed, the device is properly designed to auto shutdown whenever it reaches an unsafe temperature.
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okay cause i like gaming and when im bored i play gta san. and i noticed that when i turn on performance profile the game it runs much better.
for most games balanced profile is anough.
yeah i mostly feel heat in the top part. and the battery is just not heated up so i find it fine. if i realy play a game for a long time and i know it i always put phone is flight mode. so its gets less hot.
thanks for the help guys. just wanted to know.
So I have an LG G4 running Octos-M with Xposed and a handful of modules. Recently my phone has been getting very hot doing mundane tasks. For example, while streaming YouTube videos at 480p it will sometimes, not all the time for some reason but usually, slowly get hotter and hotter. I don't know where it would cap out because I've never let it get past 53C, and usually stop using it at about 46.
It does it in Snapchat basically all the time and in games like Marvel Puzzle Quest a little less than half the time. It can't be good for the phone and it slows way down when it gets too hot.
Doing some looking into it I believe it is a GPU issue. When watching videos the GPU usage spikes to 70-100%. The high usage seems to cause the heat. The CPU usage rarely steps above 40-50% but I don't know of it's related or not. The GPU is just a hunch.
Does anyone have any suggestions? It's getting to the point where the phone is unusable due to heat so I'd like to resolve, or at least mitigate, the issue.
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So I have an LG G4 running Octos-M with Xposed and a handful of modules. Recently my phone has been getting very hot doing mundane tasks. For example, while streaming YouTube videos at 480p it will sometimes, not all the time for some reason but usually, slowly get hotter and hotter. I don't know where it would cap out because I've never let it get past 53C, and usually stop using it at about 46.
It does it in Snapchat basically all the time and in games like Marvel Puzzle Quest a little less than half the time. It can't be good for the phone and it slows way down when it gets too hot.
Doing some looking into it I believe it is a GPU issue. When watching videos the GPU usage spikes to 70-100%. The high usage seems to cause the heat. The CPU usage rarely steps above 40-50% but I don't know of it's related or not. The GPU is just a hunch.
Does anyone have any suggestions? It's getting to the point where the phone is unusable due to heat so I'd like to resolve, or at least mitigate, the issue.
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Use the KA mod(Kernel Auditor) that is built into the Tentacles app in your app drawer, if you don't see the Tentacles app in app drawer then just go to system settings>about phone>Build date and tap the build date once and you'll have the Tentacles app. Use KA to lower the CPU/GPU settings to reduce the power consumption. If your OctOS doesn't come prepackaged with the Kraken kernel built in then consider configuring some KA settings on the stock OctOS kernel then try flashing the Kraken kernel if one exists for your device, then configure KA settings with that kernel and compare results, use the kernel and settings that give you the best results.
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I dusted off my xda account to let you know that this latest software is great... Battery life finally doesn't drain when not used. (battery drain while not used drives me crazy, wife has iPhone... Always in use, it lasts forever)
Anyway Im the guy that never have problems, not many apps. No smart watch connected. Not rooted, not gamer, no cloud.
My battery used to drain like 15% overnight. Not anymore. It barely uses 40% a day.. Before it was about 75%.
I'm planning to freeze my software update app. Bc whatever they did is working great.
My device is more than 12 mo old, and i use the 85% charge limit (slowest possible charge). Unlocked US model directly from Samsung.
Yay.
Definitely package block updates if it's running well now.
you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?
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you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?
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Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.
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Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.
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thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.
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thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.
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It's in Device Care under battery. Individual app battery background settings don't invoke global power management so you can do that instead.
That's just the start. You probably need to use a package disabler or adb edits to disable about 70-80 bloatware apps.
This is how on my N10+'s its configured.
Unlike latter Samsung flagships the N10+ is a well balanced phone in terms of form factor, usability, functionality and power consumption.
It supports expandable storage up to 1tb.
It seems that disabling the global power management the slug mode has been disabled too. I need to check it in the next days if the situation stays like this or not. In any case I still need to block the bloatware.
Thanks for your help