Help with overheating problem - General Questions and Answers

So I have an LG G4 running Octos-M with Xposed and a handful of modules. Recently my phone has been getting very hot doing mundane tasks. For example, while streaming YouTube videos at 480p it will sometimes, not all the time for some reason but usually, slowly get hotter and hotter. I don't know where it would cap out because I've never let it get past 53C, and usually stop using it at about 46.
It does it in Snapchat basically all the time and in games like Marvel Puzzle Quest a little less than half the time. It can't be good for the phone and it slows way down when it gets too hot.
Doing some looking into it I believe it is a GPU issue. When watching videos the GPU usage spikes to 70-100%. The high usage seems to cause the heat. The CPU usage rarely steps above 40-50% but I don't know of it's related or not. The GPU is just a hunch.
Does anyone have any suggestions? It's getting to the point where the phone is unusable due to heat so I'd like to resolve, or at least mitigate, the issue.

merger3 said:
So I have an LG G4 running Octos-M with Xposed and a handful of modules. Recently my phone has been getting very hot doing mundane tasks. For example, while streaming YouTube videos at 480p it will sometimes, not all the time for some reason but usually, slowly get hotter and hotter. I don't know where it would cap out because I've never let it get past 53C, and usually stop using it at about 46.
It does it in Snapchat basically all the time and in games like Marvel Puzzle Quest a little less than half the time. It can't be good for the phone and it slows way down when it gets too hot.
Doing some looking into it I believe it is a GPU issue. When watching videos the GPU usage spikes to 70-100%. The high usage seems to cause the heat. The CPU usage rarely steps above 40-50% but I don't know of it's related or not. The GPU is just a hunch.
Does anyone have any suggestions? It's getting to the point where the phone is unusable due to heat so I'd like to resolve, or at least mitigate, the issue.
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Use the KA mod(Kernel Auditor) that is built into the Tentacles app in your app drawer, if you don't see the Tentacles app in app drawer then just go to system settings>about phone>Build date and tap the build date once and you'll have the Tentacles app. Use KA to lower the CPU/GPU settings to reduce the power consumption. If your OctOS doesn't come prepackaged with the Kraken kernel built in then consider configuring some KA settings on the stock OctOS kernel then try flashing the Kraken kernel if one exists for your device, then configure KA settings with that kernel and compare results, use the kernel and settings that give you the best results.
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OPO getting hot

My OPO is getting hot when using hangouts video chat and navigation. I could understand if I was playing a resource intensive game but video chat and navigation. Any one else notice this?
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I never use video chat so I don't know. But its getting hot when I playing clash of clan, it's not even graphically game.
I use this cpu temperature app to monitor the temp when playing games. My phone tends to idle at low 30s celsius and ramps up quickly into the 60s under load. I've hit peaks of 73 celsius while playing plants vs zombies 2 and the app can notify you when it gets above 70. I think the sandstone back is keeping the heat insulated unlike other metal/plastic phones.
droidnext said:
I never use video chat so I don't know. But its getting hot when I playing clash of clan, it's not even graphically game.
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I've played countless games and i play clash of clans a lot. Never had the phone get hot yet, It's surprisingly good with heat compared to my nexus 4.
kokocabana said:
I use this cpu temperature app to monitor the temp when playing games. My phone tends to idle at low 30s celsius and ramps up quickly into the 60s under load. I've hit peaks of 73 celsius while playing plants vs zombies 2 and the app can notify you when it gets above 70. I think the sandstone back is keeping the heat insulated unlike other metal/plastic phones.
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Not even, I have my phone overclocked to 2,880 megahertz and this phone handles heat far better than my old Nexus 5 and G3.
Let my follow up my opening post with this is my 2nd OPO sold the first one and I never remember it getting hot. So on this phone I thought it was a little strange. I will try the CPU temperature app.
Yes, I use hangouts video chat on a daily basis and tonight when I was done I noticed my phone was very hot.
People define "hot" differently, so I installed CPU temperature app to see how hot. I got 122 F playing clash of clan. I guess it's OK.
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jdh10475 said:
My OPO is getting hot when using hangouts video chat and navigation. I could understand if I was playing a resource intensive game but video chat and navigation. Any one else notice this?
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but better then my g3
Sorry to bump an old thread. But I'm definitely getting this.
I'd been using my OPO for Hangouts video chat over H/H+ network, with a fairly strong signal. I noticed afterwards that around the camera area it was just about bearable to touch.
Just recently when using hangouts for video chat, it will get to a certain point and turn off the phone. I presume this is a safety shutdown because of heat. It's happened three or four times over the past week.
Think I'm going to have to take the plunge and either factory reset ... OR try a different ROM. (Currently on Stock).
Hangouts running hot
I got my OPO 3 days back. I had voice-only hangout session of around 30 mins yesterday night, and I can confirm that phone was really hot around top half. So hot that I was not able to place it on my ears - had to keep it slightly away while talking.
Performance settings on my phone are: Governor - Interactive, Scheduler - ROW. Should I change it to Powersave or Conservative?

Cooling app (Coolify)

Because a lot a people seem to be suffering from over heating. I decided that it might be useful to bring this app to users attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-coolify-cool-android-t2855316
Yeah, I got this one also. Don't know if it's really doing anything. Every now and then it goes off when my phone is on the tylt charger.
Don't need root to stick it in the fridge #troll :silly:
I have no idea how the app works, but I have a feeling you'd be trading cooler temps for sluggier performance.
I never get a warm phone. My m8 use to get warm, but not this
Been using coolify since it was released along with the apps shown below, phone is flying and doesn't overheat
Greenify
Green power
Nlpunbounce
Stoplog
Sdmaid
gsw5700 said:
Been using coolify since it was released along with the apps shown below, phone is flying and doesn't overheat
Greenify
Green power
Nlpunbounce
Stoplog
Sdmaid
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Using Greenify since S III its really good app and prevented my phone lagging too much. Coolify seems doing nothing. At least for me still heats and reaches 43C on 10 min. single game. Angry Birds, Simpsons Tapped Out etc.
Ahhh, I don't really run games, gaming appears to heat stress most phones
Wrong temperature shown by coolify
I installed the coolify application and sistematically shows a temperature that is more or less 20 degrees lower than the temperature of the Xposed module that shows the same information on the notification bar (I don't remenber the name),
The Xposed module shows the real temperature. In fact upon reaching 100 degrees the phone turns off automatically for high temperature.
It happens to me often browsing complex internet sites (i imagine containing a lot of javascript stuff and/or images).
The application not helped in any way (I will test a little more before uninstalling)
I have an italian 3 brand 10G.
jhericurls said:
Because a lot a people seem to be suffering from over heating. I decided that it might be useful to bring this app to users attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-coolify-cool-android-t2855316
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Different materials and phone construction are making it possible for processors to run at higher temps and not really heat stress components (new LG G3 here and I'll see 100 degrees occasionally, when playing Eufloria or something) but normally I think we can be not so worried about a phone feeling 'warm' in our hand when in fact it's not much warmer than our body temperature.
FractalSphere said:
Different materials and phone construction are making it possible for processors to run at higher temps and not really heat stress components (new LG G3 here and I'll see 100 degrees occasionally, when playing Eufloria or something) but normally I think we can be not so worried about a phone feeling 'warm' in our hand when in fact it's not much warmer than our body temperature.
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Uhm, mine LG G3 turns automatically off upon reaching 100 degrees.
If you try to touch the power button it's really hot (maybe is right back processor).
Anyway coolify seems not help

Mortal Kombat X causing a lot of heat!

Does anyone play Mortal Kombat X on their OPO?
If so, does your device get very hot playing the game?
For me, back on Kitkat, the phone got pretty warm after about 10-15 mins of playing, it wasn't too bad. Now I'm on lollipop, after 10 mins of play, the phone was very hot, especially around the camera. (think that is where the CPU/GPU chipset is located) It was so hot I closed the game and turned off the phone for a few mins to cool down. I was scared I was going to fry my phone!
Anyone else having similar experiences with this game? Other games don't really heat the phone up, but MK does have very decent graphics!
donk165 said:
Does anyone play Mortal Kombat X on their OPO?
If so, does your device get very hot playing the game?
For me, back on Kitkat, the phone got pretty warm after about 10-15 mins of playing, it wasn't too bad. Now I'm on lollipop, after 10 mins of play, the phone was very hot, especially around the camera. (think that is where the CPU/GPU chipset is located) It was so hot I closed the game and turned off the phone for a few mins to cool down. I was scared I was going to fry my phone!
Anyone else having similar experiences with this game? Other games don't really heat the phone up, but MK does have very decent graphics!
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More intense apps/games will obviously increase heat output. Though nowadays mobile chipsets much like desktop or laptop chipsets have thermal trips and controls that will throttle the component that is overheating. So I wouldn't actually worry too much about the possibility of frying your phone. (Unless you disabled the thermal trip on a kernel level)
Yeah, a game like MKX does a lot of CPU and GPU work and when you add the display, the device gets warm. It's nothing to worry over.
Buy game console mate..
Confirmed with the same game and any other resource-expensive game. After 10/15 minutes the logcat gets spammed with temperature warnings (over 80 °C) and reboots to prevent damage.
I play the **** out of it, and yes after 20mins or so, it's pretty hot.
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donk165 said:
Does anyone play Mortal Kombat X on their OPO?
If so, does your device get very hot playing the game?
For me, back on Kitkat, the phone got pretty warm after about 10-15 mins of playing, it wasn't too bad. Now I'm on lollipop, after 10 mins of play, the phone was very hot, especially around the camera. (think that is where the CPU/GPU chipset is located) It was so hot I closed the game and turned off the phone for a few mins to cool down. I was scared I was going to fry my phone!
Anyone else having similar experiences with this game? Other games don't really heat the phone up, but MK does have very decent graphics!
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to reduce heating u must sacrifice ur little performance
flash a custom kernel
open kernel app n underclock ur cpu to 1.5ghz (dont go beyond it <1497mhz>) and keep ur gpu frequency to max @330 mhz (i would suggest keep it to 200mhz).
optionals
1. also do reduce cpu voltage atleast -30mV.
2. change the governer to silm or zzmove or any thing u like but not performance.
device get warm but doesnt goes to extreme heating .... little lags and glitches can be seen but its acceptable.
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Well I'm glad I'm not alone in experiencing this. I guess ill just have to play in short bursts. I also play Marvel Contest of Champions and that is another 3D fighter but my phone can play that for half an hour without much heat up, MKX has much better graphics so it gets my phone toasty very quickly.
My device is very hot too and killing battery. When i play mk x i disable 2 cores from snayps.. It doesn't effect performance.
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Just install ak put cpu speed to 1.3ghz max undervolt to 140 max for pvs 7(it may reboot at first but it will get stable for gaming with no heat) use build.prop and init.d tweak to keep it your One fast.
I play MKX and godfire with this settings with no lag at all.
Mkkt Bkkt said:
Just install ak put cpu speed to 1.3ghz max undervolt to 140 max for pvs 7(it may reboot at first but it will get stable for gaming with no heat) use build.prop and init.d tweak to keep it your One fast.
I play MKX and godfire with this settings with no lag at all.
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I moved to the CM12.1 by SultanXDA and on his rom, the phone is underclocked to 2ghz and I've noticed the phone doesn't get as hot while playing games now which is great. Another added bonus of using that ROM, its very good!
I hear ya bro
Yes the device does get warm to hot depending upon your environment.
I have noticed that while playing the game in public(non-ac), it does get pretty heated.. whereas when you do play in an ac room or a room with adequate cool air circulation using fans, it doesnt heat up so much.
Also, the internet(cellular/wifi) being on plays a huge impact on if the device heats up or not.
Moreover, I noticed that it heats up more for graphically demanding games like MKX,NOVA3 and Modern Combat 5 and not so much while playing less demanding games like Golf Star,Asphalt,etc even though all these games are typical heavy games.
Like suggested by many above, try underclocking(powersaver mode) and undervolting. It works for me to some extent.
Had the same issue of lot of heat and huge battery drain, but kept playing for hours and then I gave up on it, because I love OPO's battery life and I don't want to ruin it
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overheat and lag

im thinking of buying this or note 4 i have an s5 right now. does rooting debloat and fixing the thermal settings fix the lag and overheating?or is there anything else that will. im a heavy user play switch in between games alot and depend on a decent battery life and dont like lag.
Basically same question here, except i already bought it.
By the way, i got it rooted.
I just got my Flex 2 and after debloating and tuning the thermal configuration I'm really enjoying it! Performs great.
dbvolcom said:
im thinking of buying this or note 4 i have an s5 right now. does rooting debloat and fixing the thermal settings fix the lag and overheating?or is there anything else that will. im a heavy user play switch in between games alot and depend on a decent battery life and dont like lag.
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Debloat and thermal settings has turned my phone into a powerhouse. On an average day, I see no more battery drain on the Flex 2 than I did on the original Flex (with a bigger battery and a smaller number of cores). However, if you're heavily into gaming, the GPU will certainly be enough, but for 3D intensive games the battery drains rather quickly (as expected, really).
I have compiled a list of everything I've removed for debloating here.
So no issues with overheating? I switch between games like madden , clash of clans, boom beach, magic rampage, and outwitters constantly so I was worried about the heating issue for a heavy user such as myself
dbvolcom said:
So no issues with overheating? I switch between games like madden , clash of clans, boom beach, magic rampage, and outwitters constantly so I was worried about the heating issue for a heavy user such as myself
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The thermal throttling settings are still enabled, just set to a higher temperature. I have mine set to 65°C (as per the thermal throttling thread), and I know processors can get much hotter than that without failing (Apparently the HTC flagship cores get up to 80°C, don't while me on this, it's just a passive memory).

Put a big heatpipe in our tiny phones?

Hey everybody,
Since I work at a phone repair shop I have access to a lot of little parts and things to do modifications to phones.
Lately I've been thinking of taking a heatpipe from something, and slapping it into my Pixel 3 just to see what kind of difference it may or may not make.
I have a heatpipe from a Samsung S10 already pulled just waiting for install.
But I'm hoping some people can chime in with the temperatures that their stock pixel 3 devices generally reach, so that I can compare after the "mod".
Preferably three temperatures:
Idle
Load (Video)
Load (3d game)
And if your feeling generous a fourth temperature from using a CPU burn in app.
I'm currently using CPU monitor to check my temps, so using that would be prefered so that there are no different temps between apps.
And yes I realize this won't be a perfect test due to what apps everybody may have running in the background, but ballpark figures are better than none at all lol
For reference my temps stock:
Idle: 31°-33°
Load (Video): 35°-37°
Load (3D game): 36°-40°
Ok so the heatpipe has been installed since later in the afternoon yesterday.
The heatpipe has cooler Master thermal paste on either side to help heat transfer.
It sits directly under the motherboard, and runs underneath the battery.
Initially the temps were a little worse of course since the thermal paste had to "set"
But I now have some base figures.
At idle: 25°-31° (this large variance is likely due to background apps updating/running such as Facebook, messenger, email and ambient temperature however it mostly sits around 29°)
Load (Video): 29°-34°
Mostly used YouTube, but watched a movie on Netflix
I did have a 3 hour google duo video call with my favorite lady. After about an hour and a half the cpu hit 47° and stayed between 45°-47°
Fairly hot, but prior to this I've seen it hit 49° on a duo call so I'm not complaining.
Load (3D game):35°-37°
Obviously this one is subjective due to the game, and what settings it's on. Though temps didn't seem to change much.
One thing I have noticed from all this is that cpu monitor also tells you your battery temperature, and weirdly enough the battery has actually gone down in temp 2°-3° from where it would normally sit.
What I mean is that at stock the battery was usually 1°-2° celcius higher than the cpu temp. Where as after this mod it usually runs the opposite 1°-2° lower temp than the cpu.

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