I just read this over on phonearena and wondered if anyone else saw it and has tried it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...-visibility-of-the-LG-G3-without-root_id58888
Im tempted to try it but hesitant too.
It'll increase the overall performance of the phone, at the cost of a little bit battery life, since turning off thermal mitigation allows the cpu to clock at a higher speed more often while ignoring the heat.
I cant decide if its worth it. For the most part I dont have any complaints about the brightness but I also use Lux.
While it was a different phone I did this same thing with my LG G Pro with no adverse effects to the phones operation in just over a year. It is still going strong in fact, so I dont fear phone damage by doing this but on this phone I havent seen the need for it yet.
I've been using this setting for some time now. I see no decrease in battery life, indeed I've seen nothing negative from it.
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I've had both thermal settings off for a while now as well, it only powered down from heat once and that was because I was chrome casting Netflix and playing a intensive 3d game. Other than that it's fine, however I would expect it to get hot doing 2 large processes anyway. Battery life is still 4-5hiues SOT
By doing this my phone over heats and the turns itself off. Was running fine for a while with it on but I guess it was to much for the phone to handle.
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Just wanna ask around to check if I'm the only one who feels my phone is a tad bit too hot?
Usually when not charging , the batt temps are around 34-38°C, with the CPU in the range of 38-45°C
When charging the batt goes up to 38°C - 44.7°C or even overheating in the 45-50°C range( ok this would be my fault in using heavier apps)
And the CPU would stay in the range of 40°C - 55°C even without use sometimes
Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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timmaaa said:
Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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Thanks timmaaa, for a moment I thought I was the only one.
I use Battery Mix to record my temperature vs. Battery % over time (use the JB feature to disable its persistent notification): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.smapho.battery_mix&hl=en
One thing I've noticed is that when it hits 40C+, the space below the camera becomes extraordinarily hot! This happens at least once during a work day, especially happens when I don't touch the device.
When this happens, the drain rate just plummets (when I refer to the battery level slope vs. the phone temperature). However, a reboot fixes the heat (and as a result, the drain rate) over a lengthy amount of time.
I've heard of this, but haven't gotten around to trying it successfully:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...g-red-while-charging-rapid-battery-drain.html
That shouldn't happen while you're not using the phone. Have you used an app like BetterBatteryStats to identify what's draining your battery?
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well this was previously answered by timmaa i had a similar concern cause none of my earlier phone actually felt that warm...
but when i got a green signal that these are normal temperatures, i tried gaming for almost an hour turns out the phone was hot indeed the battery was around 50+ but still the phone dint shut down itself or showed any inconsistency in its functions!
moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal that if u search it in google that "why does ht one x get..... "it automatically completes it in with " get hot"(also for the new One).
if you want to cool it down get SET CPU and create a profile in which select battery temperature/cpu temperature at a certain temperature you don't want your phone to exceed and then set the cpu to a lower speed typically till 1026 or 1134...
but again if u feel its necessary cause doing so will obliviously slow down the device.:angel:
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moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal
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Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
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Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
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true that!!
even i was actually worried before hearing about it being normal from u and timma as well!
its probably htc one x is build that way.
BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
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BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
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Totally normal. Just a moving part in the camera module. Likely related to autofocus as you can sometimes hear a sound when focusing the image.
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Just got a brand new Nexus 5, the newer batches with the speaker hole a lil bigger, and on stock rom and kernel it seemed to run a wee bit hot doing nothing, or very minimal tasks like going through main settings...
Is this normal? I can understand any phone getting hotter with a heavy load like some video games, but not while doing almost nothing... My ancient old LG Motion 4G is stone cold, even with heavy tasking, and I know that's not a fair comparison, but I wonder...
Will try a custom Kernel, and see if some settings help...
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Just got a brand new Nexus 5, the newer batches with the speaker hole a lil bigger, and on stock rom and kernel it seemed to run a wee bit hot doing nothing, or very minimal tasks like going through main settings...
Is this normal? I can understand any phone getting hotter with a heavy load like some video games, but not while doing almost nothing... My ancient old LG Motion 4G is stone cold, even with heavy tasking, and I know that's not a fair comparison, but I wonder...
Will try a custom Kernel, and see if some settings help...
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its normal.
your old LG wasnt a 2.3ghz quad core either. depending on what the temps are around you, and what tasks you are doing with the phone, its normal for it to be anywhere from 30C-70C. even if you are playing cpu intensive games, it can be normal for your device to hit 80-85C. at 100C, itll automatically shut down to cool off.
Personally I think the n5 stays pretty cools, mine sits around 40c with normal usage and even with gaming ita around 60c.
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If it's just a little hot, it's probably normal. Mine doesn't seem to get hot under normal usage, though I suppose even if it did I wouldn't notice because I have it in a TPU case all the time. How hot it get probably varies from chip to chip, as no two CPUs are 100% identical. If it starts throttling under normal usage, then I would be concerned.
Hello. I'm new with the account here, but been reading this forum for years.
I'm creating this thread because my new Nexus 5 (which I have for 20 days now) is overheating more than a normal mobile device should.
When i bought it, it had 4.4.4 Kit kat android, and I had that one for about 5 days, and in that time, I didn't notice any overheating, or maybe didn't pay attention, can't remember really.
But after installing official Lollipop 5.0.1, the device is heating pretty good even when browsing internet for 5 minutes, at about 30-40% brightness.
**** Please tell me if some of your devices are acting the same, and is it worth a try to install back an older android to try if it will stop overheating, or my device may be faulty and should I take it back for another one (or maybe switch to LG G2) ?
Because I'm still unable to post image links, i will write it down:
- Ambient temperature: 23 degrees Celsius
- The temperature sensor is taped on the back side, at the side of camera, this is where it overheats most. (even if not using camera)
- Phone temp after staying on standby with screen off: 28 C (it's not warm but it is warmer than desk which it is sitting on)
- After staying idle on home screen with screen on for 10 minutes (50% brightness): 30.5 C
- After chatting on Messenger for 10 minutes: 34.3 C (feels warm)
- After recording video for 4 minutes: 41 Celsius!!! (almost uncomfortably hot in the whole upper half of the phone, both the back side and the screen)
- After 15 minutes letting it cool down, with screen off of course, it is 38 C (still hot to touch), and it stays like that untill I reboot the phone, then it cools down.
The test took about 50 minutes, and after that, battery was drained for about 25%.
-While charging, the phone does not overheat, just gets a little warm which is OK. (haven't tried wireless charging)
P.S. I don't play games on the phone...
Please act quick in case I should return the phone...
the only time my phone gets hot is when im intensively doing a lot of things..
for example.. im playing ingress, have tether ON, and my two sons are using their tablets connected to my phone playing ingress too..
but if i turn off the game and turn off tether, it cools down..
to me it sounds u have something intesively using your CPU and perhaps GPS and other radios.
hold power button.. when PWR OFF shows, long press it and reboot into SAFE MODE...
use the phone for a bit and see if it gets warm... this should tell you if its apps installed.
I only used wifi, no tethering, no GPS, 3G, NFC or any other radios, cell signal is good so phone is not searching for it.
- In safe mode, it still gets warm when using camera. When browsing internet and watching images in google search, also but just mild warm..
- But after sitting and thinking, I've found a problem! After recording with camera and leaving it to cool down, it didn't cool down because it had to make an effort to upload that 5 min video on Google drive via Auto backup!
After turning the Auto-backup off, it is now much cooler!
I will post tomorrow with the results, if something changes...
Anyway, thank you!
First of all, "warm" doesn't mean anything.
Battery temperature does not mean much either, as the CPU is what generates the most heat.
There is a battery temperature throttle that reduces the CPU frequency, but it is almost entirely pointless as the CPU will always reach it's own throttle temperatures MUCH, MUCH earlier than the battery will. The CPU starts throttling at 65C CPU temp (NOT battery temp), and shuts itself down at about 105C CPU temp. Unless your battery somehow reaches a batterytemp of 70C+ (nearly impossible because the CPU will always hit it's throttle first), then I would never even take it into any sort of consideration unless you have a physical battery defect.
Using the camera generates heat since it's CPU and power intensive.
Using the phone in general will generate heat.
Keep in mind that mobile devices are passively cooled, not actively cooled with a fan/liquid.
Not sure what you're so worried about.
Lower your brightness
Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
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Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
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The only thing that sounded odd was how it wasn't cooling down until you rebooted, but it sounds like you figured that out with the automatic upload setting.
41-42c battery temp can be normal after prolonged usage, though personally I usually see that after a short gaming session. My brightness is around 40% and high brightness will cause extra heat.
Otherwise the phone is very thin so you can feel the stacked SoC and RAM heat up through the skin fairly easily, right around the camera area as you mentioned.
I think each device and CPU is slightly different and can vary by a few degrees under load as well.
AlexSRB said:
Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
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Your temperatures are fine and you shouldn't worry about it. It's average for a Nexus 5, and there are throttles/shutdown temps anyways, for both the battery and CPU. I've had mine for a year and there hasn't been any sort of issue, normal usage should be negligible to the condition of the battery.
Ok, everything seems to be ok then. Now I can go to sleep without worrying Thanks guys!
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im thinking of buying this or note 4 i have an s5 right now. does rooting debloat and fixing the thermal settings fix the lag and overheating?or is there anything else that will. im a heavy user play switch in between games alot and depend on a decent battery life and dont like lag.
Basically same question here, except i already bought it.
By the way, i got it rooted.
I just got my Flex 2 and after debloating and tuning the thermal configuration I'm really enjoying it! Performs great.
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im thinking of buying this or note 4 i have an s5 right now. does rooting debloat and fixing the thermal settings fix the lag and overheating?or is there anything else that will. im a heavy user play switch in between games alot and depend on a decent battery life and dont like lag.
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Debloat and thermal settings has turned my phone into a powerhouse. On an average day, I see no more battery drain on the Flex 2 than I did on the original Flex (with a bigger battery and a smaller number of cores). However, if you're heavily into gaming, the GPU will certainly be enough, but for 3D intensive games the battery drains rather quickly (as expected, really).
I have compiled a list of everything I've removed for debloating here.
So no issues with overheating? I switch between games like madden , clash of clans, boom beach, magic rampage, and outwitters constantly so I was worried about the heating issue for a heavy user such as myself
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So no issues with overheating? I switch between games like madden , clash of clans, boom beach, magic rampage, and outwitters constantly so I was worried about the heating issue for a heavy user such as myself
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The thermal throttling settings are still enabled, just set to a higher temperature. I have mine set to 65°C (as per the thermal throttling thread), and I know processors can get much hotter than that without failing (Apparently the HTC flagship cores get up to 80°C, don't while me on this, it's just a passive memory).
I dusted off my xda account to let you know that this latest software is great... Battery life finally doesn't drain when not used. (battery drain while not used drives me crazy, wife has iPhone... Always in use, it lasts forever)
Anyway Im the guy that never have problems, not many apps. No smart watch connected. Not rooted, not gamer, no cloud.
My battery used to drain like 15% overnight. Not anymore. It barely uses 40% a day.. Before it was about 75%.
I'm planning to freeze my software update app. Bc whatever they did is working great.
My device is more than 12 mo old, and i use the 85% charge limit (slowest possible charge). Unlocked US model directly from Samsung.
Yay.
Definitely package block updates if it's running well now.
you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?
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you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?
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Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.
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Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.
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thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.
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thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.
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It's in Device Care under battery. Individual app battery background settings don't invoke global power management so you can do that instead.
That's just the start. You probably need to use a package disabler or adb edits to disable about 70-80 bloatware apps.
This is how on my N10+'s its configured.
Unlike latter Samsung flagships the N10+ is a well balanced phone in terms of form factor, usability, functionality and power consumption.
It supports expandable storage up to 1tb.
It seems that disabling the global power management the slug mode has been disabled too. I need to check it in the next days if the situation stays like this or not. In any case I still need to block the bloatware.
Thanks for your help