Note 5 in my hands in 45 minutes. Hope root is available by the end of the weekend
Just remember, if you disable knox. Samsung pay will never work on the phone again.
I dont use SS pay so thats ok
haha same here, I'm really hoping for root soon as well. I'm hoping that due to the similarities with the S6 family it'll be available quickly. Really loving the phone though, my only real complaint with my S6 was the screen was just a touch too small. The Note is absolutely outstanding and despite it's size it feels much smaller in the hand. Feels WAY smaller than the Note 4 and the G4.
Hey dear my samsung s3 how to use flash
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dickosta said:
Hey dear my samsung s3 how to use flash
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What What??
Suzook1 said:
I dont use SS pay so thats ok
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haha same here, I'm really hoping for root soon as well. I'm hoping that due to the similarities with the S6 family it'll be available quickly. Really loving the phone though, my only real complaint with my S6 was the screen was just a touch too small. The Note is absolutely outstanding and despite it's size it feels much smaller in the hand. Feels WAY smaller than the Note 4 and the G4.
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Well, Samsung pay isn't out yet. I was just mentioning if you disable knox now, you wont be able to use Samsung Pay when its released Sept. 28th and there is no way to re-enable knox. But I do understand the want for root. I haven't had a phone without adblocker in ages!
Should have root tonight or tomorrow. Pre-rooted images are being made. Sprint has one already. Head over to the Dev section of the international version and stay updated.
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Do you have to flash carrier specific images?
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Do you have to flash carrier specific images?
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Yes. Waiting for someone to report back the Sprint image.
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Just remember, if you disable knox. Samsung pay will never work on the phone again.
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Your statement is incorrect... If you disable knox you can flash the stock firmware and knox + samsung pay will work like normal. If you trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1 then you will no longer be able use samsung pay.
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Your statement is incorrect... If you disable knox you can flash the stock firmware and knox + samsung pay will work like normal. If you trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1 then you will no longer be able use samsung pay.
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Your statement is self contradicting - Flashing back to stock does not reset Knox Counter. Disabling does not stop it from tripping the counter
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Picked up my new Note 3 today.
Oh so cool!!!!!!
Sorry, really excited
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Grats... just that we're not that lucky to get that model in india we have only N9000 note 3. But nonetheless grats again n enjoy
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Congrats and enjoy. Make sure to look on the forum and YouTube to learn what the phone can really do.
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congrats!! I got mine 1 week ago, very happy with it, not a single complain, everything as good ss expected, nice screen, good sound, long lasting battery, quick and nimble responses, as a bonus, the screen is very grease resistant, my former phone was a S3, I had to clean it several times a day, the note 3 barely shows any fingerprint, Im very happy with this phone
All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....
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All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....
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Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
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Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
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Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)
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Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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My other phone's a Ferrari.
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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My other phone's a Ferrari.
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It's just a secure container, mainly designed for business use and IT Managers and such. It can put data on a secure part of the phone also which no one can access except you. If you are rooted, your KNOX becomes void, therefore secure container can no longer be guaranteed secure.
I did not recive mine N9005 yet, so I dont know which rom on it
but I read that flashing or rooting will void the warranty, with my old note 1 flashing the stock rom will return device to official state, is it the same with note 3?
congrats on ur note 3! have fun! make sure u explore and find just how useful and awesome the s pen and the features made for it are!
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@radicalisto said it all!
Thanks guys! by the way, I'll be in Canada soon and I'll probably get it there. Can I still root it safely or that will void warranty? Is it better to buy one that is unlocked already?
Thanks for the replies everyone. Been loving it, don't feel the need to root it yet is awesome stock.
Gonna watch a few videos and see if I can find some cool tips or tricks.
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Just got my note 3 yesterday from Verizon I traded my nexus 4 in and only paid $95 for it.
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I've been stuck on the note 4 for Verizon without full root after 10 months. Will this ever get root and unlocked bootloader?
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Ummm... are you referring to your Note 4 or the new Note 5? People only just started receiving them yesterday (myself included), so it'll take time for any root/unlocking stuff to come about if it'll be possible.
Talking about the note 5. Just wondering if anyone heard of Verizon locking it down in a similar fashion.
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Honestly, with Samsung and Verizon...just assume that root will never be available. It likely won't, but if it is..it's just a bonus.
Regardless, it's way too early to tell.
If root is important to you, DON'T BUY A PHONE UNTIL ROOT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE.
EVER.
These days root is not guaranteed. And in some cases even if you get 'root', you can't write to the system partition without an unlocked bootloader to change out the kernel, severely gimping what many want root for on the first place.
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If root is important to you, DON'T BUY A PHONE UNTIL ROOT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE.
EVER.
These days root is not guaranteed. And in some cases even if you get 'root', you can't write to the system partition without an unlocked bootloader to change out the kernel, severely gimping what many want root for on the first place.
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Very true. I purchased the Note 5 because I like the phone. Root would be nice but it won't break my heart if it doesn't come. The S6 had root but it didn't last long if you like to stay up to date on the software. Samsung and Verizon locked these phones up pretty tight where even just flashing the modem will cause you to have to flash the whole update and loose root. I'm not holding my breath for root.
Probably Yes in the future but not right away. So i decided to talk to a Samsung customer service representative to ask weather the bootloader would be unlocked on Verizon note 5. It took me 20 whole minutes just to find that out bumped into a such a stupid representative on the live chat
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Probably Yes in the future but not right away. So i decided to talk to a Samsung customer service representative to ask weather the bootloader would be unlocked on Verizon note 5. It took me 20 whole minutes just to find that out bumped into a such a stupid representative on the live chat
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dont know why you even tried that. a fly is smarter then their chat reps
Exactly! I guess someone was brave enough to ask... I'd give it about 6 months until root comes out. In the keantime, this phone is pretty awesome.
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This is one of the reasons I stopped using samsung phones.
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Exactly! I guess someone was brave enough to ask... I'd give it about 6 months until root comes out. In the keantime, this phone is pretty awesome.
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I'd be shocked if it ever gets root. Almost a year later note 4 still isn't
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I'd be shocked if it ever gets root. Almost a year later note 4 still isn't
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I was just being optimistic. Lol
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That's right bro lol you got my back haha
It be nice.. went from note 2 to the 5. Had a lot of problems with Verizon trying to lock it down. Ended up rooting a building my own rom. Hopefully someone is working on it
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From what I read if rooted Knox 5 will lock the phone down...on Verizon and att only. Root looked to be done already on other carriers. Something in Knox 5 called "Root of trust"
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Yeah.. if that's the way verizon and Samsung want to play the game.. They can go the way of the dodo bird.
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From what I read if rooted Knox 5 will lock the phone down...on Verizon and att only. Root looked to be done already on other carriers. Something in Knox 5 called "Root of trust"
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I am ignorant on this, but if ALL the Knox software is disabled how could Knox be tripped? Anything related it Knox, I have disabled using Debloater. I am a Windows guy, and when a service is disabled it is not running but the software is still present. Wouldn't it be the same on android and Verizon/Samsung bastardization of android? Baby steps I know, but wouldn't that also leave the possibility of Root more likely then knowing Knox wont screw the phone?
The last time I used root was on the s3 and that was about it. Note 5 not needed. Even the bloatware doesnt bother me. Disabled/uninstall most of them. Phone is smooth as butter, for now at least.
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I am ignorant on this, but if ALL the Knox software is disabled how could Knox be tripped? Anything related it Knox, I have disabled using Debloater. I am a Windows guy, and when a service is disabled it is not running but the software is still present. Wouldn't it be the same on android and Verizon/Samsung bastardization of android? Baby steps I know, but wouldn't that also leave the possibility of Root more likely then knowing Knox wont screw the phone?
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I would like to think this is true but with the way they control the phone I doubt Samsung doesn't have it programmed in the startup to check
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I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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It only works for Bank of America or US Bank cards now I believe although there is support for Amex, Visa and Mastercard. They will probably be up and running once Samsung Pay is officially launched on the 28th. I can tell you this. Samsung Pay is a battery hog. It runs all the time unlike Google Wallet that you open when you need it. And the way you unlock your phone is tied into Samsung Pay. For example, if you select fingerprint scanner for Samsung Pay it automatically becomes the lockscreen default to unlock the phone. So if you want a pattern to unlock your phone you have to change it in Samsung Pay to unlock the device. You can't have both. Well at least when I tried you couldn't. LoL
I dont think enough devs have a note 5, i would guess something may come out of another phone maybe and translate over. I'm in the same boat, my n3 was rooted right away once I was convinced sprint wasnt going to deny a warranty claim over knox. I'm kinda holding out for s pay, but if it sounds like a bunch of brain damage....
Actually just thought of something, I use drive through and eat at bars and restaurants a lot, not keen on handing my phone to someone, probably gonna pass on s pay...
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I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.
TheCyberpunk said:
check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.
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That would be amazing. Thanks for the heads up. I looked through a couple pages of the kingroot main thread and couldnt find anything. Will keep searching.
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Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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Also offering 20 bux to developer for root method that don't trip Knox on 5.1.1 sprint s6 edge plus
I actually have many compatible Samsung Pay cards and am enjoying the service... really don't want to lose it. Hopefully someone comes up with something.
Don't think it will ever happen!!!!!!
My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????
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My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????
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Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen
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Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen
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https://youtu.be/ddsZTFSfXaw
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Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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I have a T567V Verizon tab E that is a Farley new device and although king root said it didn't have a root method I was able to continue and get root on a Verizon without tripping Knox so see no reason it would on the note 5
Tried it and it seems it does not work. Seemed to good to be true
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why not just trip the knox and use google pay or other services out there? for me rooting and being able to customize and overclock is the priority than samsung pay..ill just use google pay instead
Having to switch kernals everytime i need to use gearvr is whats kinda stopping me. Also i thought android pay now detects all root even "systemless"
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How soon do you think it could take someone or anyone to gain root on the S7 or S7Edge? I'm in no hurry but down the road say a month or 2 after the release if there is a root I would like to try. I have a Note 4 and after I root I lost Knox. I wonder if that will happen this time around.
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How soon do you think it could take someone or anyone to gain root on the S7 or S7Edge? I'm in no hurry but down the road say a month or 2 after the release if there is a root I would like to try. I have a Note 4 and after I root I lost Knox. I wonder if that will happen this time around.
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Just as soon as someone injects root into the stock kernel through the ramdisk....
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Just as soon as someone injects root into the stock kernel through the ramdisk....
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So looking forward to that. Now just waiting on that S7 I ordered to ship. Hope to see some Sickness Roms for it soon lol
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So looking forward to that. Now just waiting on that S7 I ordered to ship. Hope to see some Sickness Roms for it soon lol
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Ehhh.....be awhile before I upgrade. I mean I could pay mine off real fast and make the 'ole lady mad as hell.......naw, dont need that kinda drama over a phone lol
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Ehhh.....be awhile before I upgrade. I mean I could pay mine off real fast and make the 'ole lady mad as hell.......naw, dont need that kinda drama over a phone lol
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lol understandable. I'm gonna have to pay mine off real fast so I can turn around and get one for my ole lady. She wanted an S7 as soon as I told her they did away with that cover over the charging port the S5 has.
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How soon do you think it could take someone or anyone to gain root on the S7 or S7Edge? I'm in no hurry but down the road say a month or 2 after the release if there is a root I would like to try. I have a Note 4 and after I root I lost Knox. I wonder if that will happen this time around.
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It took 2 days for the Note 5 on Tmob. There was some great guys working on it.
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Hopefully there will be a full root method that doesn't trip knox. Let's pray on that.
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Hopefully there will be a full root method that doesn't trip knox. Let's pray on that.
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fingers crossed for this!! S7 W/ Root & Samsung Pay = PERFECTION
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Hopefully there will be a full root method that doesn't trip knox. Let's pray on that.
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https://twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/694190566733586432
https://twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/694190587327569920
https://twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/694190602548719617
https://twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/694190883294416898
I guess the same applies for the GS7.
I would just like root to remove some of the bloat. I have heard that they didn't mess with the OS as much as they have in the past. I would like to be able to use Samsung/android pay, also be nice if someone could enable the adaptable storage of Marshmallow, can't believe they disabled that.
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https://twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/694190566733586432
https://twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/694190587327569920
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https://twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/694190883294416898
I guess the same applies for the GS7.
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It does. Make no mistake, root on the S7 = tripping Knox. Personally, this doesn't bother me, but if people are buying this phone hoping they can have root and maintain the Knox flag, especially those in territories that support Samsung Pay, they will be disappointed.
root would be great, unfortunately I bought the Verizon version knowing I'll never get root, like my poor note 4 here who all i can do is use a debloater script ?
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Was the s6 rooted without tripping knox?
To begin with it was. But then Samsung published an update and closed the exploit that allowed it.
I just want root and don't care about tripping Knox because in Britain and the rest of the E.U it's illegal for them to cancel the warranty just for rooting.
The annoying thing is getting root normally requires a phone wipe. Until Android catches up and all apps are backed up, this is a huge pain
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The annoying thing is getting root normally requires a phone wipe.
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Only if the bootloader is locked. It's the unlocking of the bootloader, which is required to root the phone, which wipes the phone, not the rooting process itself.
In the UK Samsung phones never come with a locked bootloader (to my knowledge anyway, at least none of mine have) so rooting never involves wiping the phone thankfully.
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Only if the bootloader is locked. It's the unlocking of the bootloader, which is required to root the phone, which wipes the phone, not the rooting process itself.
In the UK Samsung phones never come with a locked bootloader (to my knowledge anyway, at least none of mine have) so rooting never involves wiping the phone thankfully.
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Does the TMOUS one come locked or unlocked?
Almost certainly locked.
T-Mobile phones come with an unlocked bootloader.
Switched carriers and upgraded to an S7, so I have my stock OE2 phone that I'm supposed to send to AT&T so they can payoff my balance with VZW. My question is, since this is the last root-able OTA from VZW, would it be worth the effort to put it for sale privately and just pay off the balance with VZW rather than send it in to AT&T? In looking around on CL it seems that most used S6s are going for about my payoff, so I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort, but for the right buyer that REALLY has to have root, who knows...
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I would put it on swappa and see what you can get.
I doubt it honestly. Most people who care about root have moved on lol. Never hurts to try. Good luck!
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I doubt it honestly. Most people who care about root have moved on lol. Never hurts to try. Good luck!
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Yep, I think you're right. I went on Swappa after Matt mentioned it and I see them going for $300-$325 all day long. Not worth the effort at this point. Now, the Wife's iPhone 6S seems to be raking it in still! $500 and up for that thing!! That's crazy!
When I decide to sell mine, I'll be lucky to get 250 for it seeing as I tripped Knox on it and that means no Samsung Pay. Oh well.
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When I decide to sell mine, I'll be lucky to get 250 for it seeing as I tripped Knox on it and that means no Samsung Pay. Oh well.
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How can I tell if I tripped Knox? I used ping pong to root my phone back in June 2015 and do not recall if it tripped it or not. I am still on the CleanRoom - 1.5 OE2 android version 5.0.2
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How can I tell if I tripped Knox? I used ping pong to root my phone back in June 2015 and do not recall if it tripped it or not. I am still on the CleanRoom - 1.5 OE2 android version 5.0.2
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"Knox status Samsung" app in play store is an easy way
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