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How to root nb4 n9005?

Hi guys,
Am I able to root nb4 firmware on n9005 without tripping the knox? I've paid and downloaded the gta:sa and i can't play it on my phone!
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brysonwong said:
Hi guys,
Am I able to root nb4 firmware on n9005 without tripping the knox? I've paid and downloaded the gta:sa and i can't play it on my phone!
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Short answer is no.

radicalisto said:
Short answer is no.
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Does the long answer means that i won't be able to root without tripping knox in the soon future?
i tried to use kingo root and and states that know will definitly be tripped.
De La Vega isnt comfortable for now on the nb4.
Im asking knowing that the dev's might find a way to revert knox, but that might take time and theres way im staying unrooted all this time.

eeebbr said:
Does the long answer means that i won't be able to root without tripping knox in the soon future?
i tried to use kingo root and and states that know will definitly be tripped.
De La Vega isnt comfortable for now on the nb4.
Im asking knowing that the dev's might find a way to revert knox, but that might take time and theres way im staying unrooted all this time.
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At this time and the forseeable future the answer is you will trip Knox... I believe most devs have given up as some believe it is an e-fuse.... Once tripped the fuse "burns" out so it can't be fixed....

ultramag69 said:
At this time and the forseeable future the answer is you will trip Knox... I believe most devs have given up as some believe it is an e-fuse.... Once tripped the fuse "burns" out so it can't be fixed....
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After coming from the galaxy 2 I can't even think of a possibility that I won't be able to root or switch roms.
Question is if the devs will be able to help with rooting without the knox tripping.
If the answer to that question remains a no I curse samsung and will take the risk of losing the warrenty.
What do you think?

A solution to Knox 0x1 won't be here anytime soon, IMHO, and even if there was a solution/exploit available tomorrow, Samsung would be busier than a one-armed bricklayer in Baghdad trying to patch it out, because a flaw in enterprise-grade security makes enterprises not interested in buying into the ecosystem, funnily enough.

BodenM said:
A solution to Knox 0x1 won't be here anytime soon, IMHO, and even if there was a solution/exploit available tomorrow, Samsung would be busier than a one-armed bricklayer in Baghdad trying to patch it out, because a flaw in enterprise-grade security makes enterprises not interested in buying into the ecosystem, funnily enough.
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thanks for confirmation for my thoughts.
warrenty voided..
time to enjoy my note 3 the way it should be :victory:

I don't know why they cram Knox onto our phone, and charge us for it, if we don't want it... If businesses want it so much, make it an optionable addition....

ultramag69 said:
I don't know why they cram Knox onto our phone, and charge us for it, if we don't want it... If businesses want it so much, make it an optionable addition....
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I would even pay an additional fee to be able to kick out bloatware and only have apps on my device that I want / use. Now you only can turn some bloatware off (having the factory preset version on board. Let's say up to a few tens of bucks. Then there is no reason for me to root anymore. Useless system resource consuming apps are the biggest pain in my ass on such beautiful device.

Root

Does anyone know if this is going to work for the Verizon S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/orig-development/cf-auto-root-t3056630

I'm not sure, but it's been reported that it will. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to root the device. If it trips knox then it will probably break the tap and pay functionality and now that Samsung has come up with a secure phone that's easy to use I may actually use that feature.

nateohio said:
I'm not sure, but it's been reported that it will. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to root the device. If it trips knox then it will probably break the tap and pay functionality and now that Samsung has come up with a secure phone that's easy to use I may actually use that feature.
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I hope they figure out a way around this.

steelersmb said:
Does anyone know if this is going to work for the Verizon S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/orig-development/cf-auto-root-t3056630
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Thats only for non branded and unlockable phones. It will not work on verizon varient

i am always preaching to folks that say root wont happen and i have always been right BUT take a look at the Note 4 HERE where since release it has raised around $15,000 in pledges for root and nothing has happened.
i am a believer but starting to feel it may be doubtful for the US versions at least.
nateohio said:
I'm not sure, but it's been reported that it will. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to root the device. If it trips knox then it will probably break the tap and pay functionality and now that Samsung has come up with a secure phone that's easy to use I may actually use that feature.
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if root is obtained it is likely that an Xposed Module will be created to get the Pay working even with root as it has worked for me in the past on the Note 3 with Softcard.
root has to come first then the solutions to things like this are generally much easier than root itself

A root bounty thread has been started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/orig-development/verizon-s6-root-bounty-t3095999

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Note 5 in my hands in 45 minutes. Hope root is available by the end of the weekend

Just remember, if you disable knox. Samsung pay will never work on the phone again.

I dont use SS pay so thats ok

haha same here, I'm really hoping for root soon as well. I'm hoping that due to the similarities with the S6 family it'll be available quickly. Really loving the phone though, my only real complaint with my S6 was the screen was just a touch too small. The Note is absolutely outstanding and despite it's size it feels much smaller in the hand. Feels WAY smaller than the Note 4 and the G4.

Hey dear my samsung s3 how to use flash
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dickosta said:
Hey dear my samsung s3 how to use flash
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What What??

Suzook1 said:
I dont use SS pay so thats ok
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boosting1bar said:
haha same here, I'm really hoping for root soon as well. I'm hoping that due to the similarities with the S6 family it'll be available quickly. Really loving the phone though, my only real complaint with my S6 was the screen was just a touch too small. The Note is absolutely outstanding and despite it's size it feels much smaller in the hand. Feels WAY smaller than the Note 4 and the G4.
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Well, Samsung pay isn't out yet. I was just mentioning if you disable knox now, you wont be able to use Samsung Pay when its released Sept. 28th and there is no way to re-enable knox. But I do understand the want for root. I haven't had a phone without adblocker in ages!

Should have root tonight or tomorrow. Pre-rooted images are being made. Sprint has one already. Head over to the Dev section of the international version and stay updated.
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Do you have to flash carrier specific images?

md1008 said:
Do you have to flash carrier specific images?
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Yes. Waiting for someone to report back the Sprint image.
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YellowGTO said:
Just remember, if you disable knox. Samsung pay will never work on the phone again.
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Your statement is incorrect... If you disable knox you can flash the stock firmware and knox + samsung pay will work like normal. If you trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1 then you will no longer be able use samsung pay.

2swizzle said:
Your statement is incorrect... If you disable knox you can flash the stock firmware and knox + samsung pay will work like normal. If you trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1 then you will no longer be able use samsung pay.
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Your statement is self contradicting - Flashing back to stock does not reset Knox Counter. Disabling does not stop it from tripping the counter

Is a root method without tripping knox feisable?

I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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Goddly said:
Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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It only works for Bank of America or US Bank cards now I believe although there is support for Amex, Visa and Mastercard. They will probably be up and running once Samsung Pay is officially launched on the 28th. I can tell you this. Samsung Pay is a battery hog. It runs all the time unlike Google Wallet that you open when you need it. And the way you unlock your phone is tied into Samsung Pay. For example, if you select fingerprint scanner for Samsung Pay it automatically becomes the lockscreen default to unlock the phone. So if you want a pattern to unlock your phone you have to change it in Samsung Pay to unlock the device. You can't have both. Well at least when I tried you couldn't. LoL

I dont think enough devs have a note 5, i would guess something may come out of another phone maybe and translate over. I'm in the same boat, my n3 was rooted right away once I was convinced sprint wasnt going to deny a warranty claim over knox. I'm kinda holding out for s pay, but if it sounds like a bunch of brain damage....
Actually just thought of something, I use drive through and eat at bars and restaurants a lot, not keen on handing my phone to someone, probably gonna pass on s pay...

juvenile43 said:
I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.

TheCyberpunk said:
check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.
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That would be amazing. Thanks for the heads up. I looked through a couple pages of the kingroot main thread and couldnt find anything. Will keep searching.
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Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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Also offering 20 bux to developer for root method that don't trip Knox on 5.1.1 sprint s6 edge plus

I actually have many compatible Samsung Pay cards and am enjoying the service... really don't want to lose it. Hopefully someone comes up with something.

Don't think it will ever happen!!!!!!

My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????

Allaboutthemoney said:
My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????
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Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen

Chaz187 said:
Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen
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https://youtu.be/ddsZTFSfXaw

juvenile43 said:
Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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I have a T567V Verizon tab E that is a Farley new device and although king root said it didn't have a root method I was able to continue and get root on a Verizon without tripping Knox so see no reason it would on the note 5

Tried it and it seems it does not work. Seemed to good to be true
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why not just trip the knox and use google pay or other services out there? for me rooting and being able to customize and overclock is the priority than samsung pay..ill just use google pay instead

Having to switch kernals everytime i need to use gearvr is whats kinda stopping me. Also i thought android pay now detects all root even "systemless"
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About knox

So im itching to root my phone. Its been a month now and im getting kinda bored.
About the knox
What are the disadvantages when knox is tripped?

xDreDz said:
So im itching to root my phone. Its been a month now and im getting kinda bored.
About the knox
What are the disadvantages when knox is tripped?
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No Samsung Pay/Some other services. No warranty in some areas.
I'm personally holding out for a bit before I root. On S5 ways were discovered to root/flash without tripping Knox. A solution for S7 as far as I know is like what happened on S6 were a dev bootloader was leaked/released.
I've only just got device so going to wait a month or two and if nothing arises and there is something worth rooting for I will root again.

Is someone woking on it tho?

TheATHEiST said:
No Samsung Pay/Some other services. No warranty in some areas.
I'm personally holding out for a bit before I root. On S5 ways were discovered to root/flash without tripping Knox. A solution for S7 as far as I know is like what happened on S6 were a dev bootloader was leaked/released.
I've only just got device so going to wait a month or two and if nothing arises and there is something worth rooting for I will root again.
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xDreDz said:
Is someone woking on it tho?
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This was because we had a older kernel on the s5 where the actual hacking method without tripping knox worked. So we could flash old kernel, root and than get the new kernel back. This isn't possible here

Tkkg1994 said:
This was because we had a older kernel on the s5 where the actual hacking method without tripping knox worked. So we could flash old kernel, root and than get the new kernel back. This isn't possible here
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Yes, point is that a new kernel exploit may be found at some point so new way on S7.

Too bad iPhone hackers don't work on android would have likely discovered a method by now
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Time will come where someone will discover thag exploit. The question is " when '

oplix said:
Too bad iPhone hackers don't work on android would have likely discovered a method by now
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LOL. The Android developers whose work you see here on XDA are as smart / capable as anyone hacking Apple. If there is is a way to do it, they'll figure it out. But Samsung really locked down the S7, so it's not going to be easy even for "iPhone hackers."

meyerweb said:
LOL. The Android developers whose work you see here on XDA are as smart / capable as anyone hacking Apple. If there is is a way to do it, they'll figure it out. But Samsung really locked down the S7, so it's not going to be easy even for "iPhone hackers."
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exactly. they are developers. they are not a group of hackers dedicated to finding an exploit in a single device. it was merely an observation but it sounds like you took it personally.

xDreDz said:
Time will come where someone will discover thag exploit. The question is " when '
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Not even custom kernel work right
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oplix said:
exactly. they are developers. they are not a group of hackers dedicated to finding an exploit in a single device. it was merely an observation but it sounds like you took it personally.
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They are developers who focus on rooting Android devices, not just application developers. Are you new to this forum? Some of the smartest "hackers" (if you prefer that term) are here, and they've found exploits for many, many Android phones that were supposedly locked down by the manufacturers. My last phone was an LG, and one of the incompetent "developers" here developed Stump and Bump, giving us root and recovery.
Jailbreaking an iPhone is no harder than finding root exploits for modern Android phones. You sound like an Apple fanboy.

TheATHEiST said:
No Samsung Pay/Some other services. No warranty in some areas.
I'm personally holding out for a bit before I root. On S5 ways were discovered to root/flash without tripping Knox. A solution for S7 as far as I know is like what happened on S6 were a dev bootloader was leaked/released.
I've only just got device so going to wait a month or two and if nothing arises and there is something worth rooting for I will root again.
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from my understanding you won't get Samsung pay anyway if it's locked for your phone's region

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