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Itll be running STOCK android...no more of this waiting for Samsung BS! Might become quite a popular phone just cause of that.
Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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I don't know how correeyour response is... my cuz had one of their low end phones and it wasbeto bad..
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I don't know how correeyour response is... my cuz had one of their low end phones and it wasbeto bad..
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...what the hell did you just say?? lol.
Android would be a lot more popular if they ran straight Android...such slick, beautiful, and powerful phones losing to the the fat, small screened simplistic and underpowered iPhone because of the goofy and crappy software loaded on them.
Carriers & manufacturers, the blood of Android is on your hands...
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...what the hell did you just say?? lol.
Android would be a lot more popular if they ran straight Android...such slick, beautiful, and powerful phones losing to the the fat, small screened simplistic and underpowered iPhone because of the goofy and crappy software loaded on them.
Carriers & manufacturers, the blood of Android is on your hands...
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Android outsells iPhone almost 2 to 1 so how is it losing?
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Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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Well that's not entirely true. Huawei has mainly produced low end handsets here in the states. From everything I've seen and read, their handsets are emanating a quality on par with Samsung which says a lot. I think they're gonna do very well.
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I have had experience with the Ascend phone which is a low end prepaid phone and I got to say at the time it released I think aside from a problem with the usb port (which evo 4gs at the time had) the build quality was decent and non-xda devs had it cooking with cm7
vanilla android was nice and with the decent dev support it had that low end phone was keeping up with more powerful phones.
that sounds amazing, but i doubt most people here would upgrade until they put a processor as fast as a i7 in teh phones
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that sounds amazing, but i doubt most people here would upgrade until they put a processor as fast as a i7 in teh phones
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X86 is a dying architecture, arm is the future
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X86 is a dying architecture, arm is the future
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power consumption wise, maybe.. but dont forget that arm lags wayy behind on performance per clock
even their high end phones are crap
horrible battery life, i've played with them
and most importantly of all, no SAMOLED+ display
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I meant for mobile devices... there will never be an efficient x86 processor in a phone.
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Looks ok for what it is, i'd buy one to play with?.
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even their high end phones are crap
horrible battery life, i've played with them
and most importantly of all, no SAMOLED+ display
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I have never heard of them really till recently, when they were at CES i believe with the thinnest smartphone. Then this news post.
The SAMOLED+ thing is a good point though, i look at other screens and theyre SO bland.
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X86 is a dying architecture, arm is the future
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leo321 said:
I meant for mobile devices... there will never be an efficient x86 processor in a phone.
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Except this isn't necessarily true at all :|
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Huawei is notorious for being junk so I doubt many xda type people will buy that.
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could'nt agree more
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I meant for mobile devices... there will never be an efficient x86 processor in a phone.
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Ever heard of Intel's medfield?
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Ever heard of Intel's medfield?
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Maybe someday there will be a power efficient x86 processor in a phone but the medfield isnt it. Its a 32nm processor, but to match a 45nm ARM processor's power efficiency, it would have 28nm.
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Maybe someday there will be a power efficient x86 processor in a phone but the medfield isnt it. Its a 32nm processor, but to match a 45nm ARM processor's power efficiency, it would have 28nm.
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... But it already matches 45nm ARM in power efficiency.
And where did you get that is has to be 28nm to match 45nm ARM? That's nonsense.
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... But it already matches 45nm ARM in power efficiency.
And where did you get that is has to be 28nm to match 45nm ARM? That's nonsense.
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My apologies, guess I've read wrong! Anyways it seems like a great chip, but it still needs to catch up to arm power efficiency... and arm has plans for a 20nm process later this year and 14nm the next year... It will be very interesting to see how Intel plays its hand in the mobile phone realm!
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I was wondering, What is a better phone? One with a single core processor or dual core processor?
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well a phone with a dual processor because it has a bigger capacity and that means better performance. FYI they make phones with quad core processors
Well, it depends on what you're looking to do/get out of your phone
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I would say that a dual core phone will be more and more useful over the next short while. A quad core phone won't show its usefulness to the average person. The OS and the apps have to leverage the extra cores. But, dual core phones are already being developed for.
A dual core phone is twice as good as a single core phone.
Dual core phone is twice better...
Well all in all it depends what you aiming for like gaming or buissness etc...
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Well all in all it depends what you aiming for like gaming or buissness etc...
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Agree... If you get enough time on your phone. Dual core is better.
Dual Core
Hi i was having a big argue with a friend so Im asking this here
I'll take HTC wildfire as example at the whole post!
So I was saying that wildfire doesn't have a gpu. My friend said "not true....every phone has a gpu otherwise the screen would have no signal cause the graphic part can not be calculated"
so I said "in the wildfire the cpu calculates the graphic part "
He said "no....the cpu need a gpu to do it "
So I said " ok so he doesn't have a dedicated gpu " and he said that its impossible for a phone to have a dedicated gpu cause the case its not big enough to keep it in ....
So the point is
- for me wildfire doesn't have any gpu and the calculation of the graphic part belongs only to the cpu -according to my friend every phone has a gpu like the one in the nexus s or in any other top range phone ..
Thanks in advance for answers!!
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CPU, GPU, APU, the lines have been blurred. It really doesn't matter.
You have soc "cpu" which contains a lot more than just a CPU, a5x is more a gpu than CPU, and APU designs that do both tasks well. CPU/GPU traditional systems are quickly becoming a thing of the past.
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Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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thyeme said:
Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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Right, it doesn't have a dedicated GPU in it's SoC. Graphics processing is pushed to the CPU, which is why it kinda sucks for playing movies.
So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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It does. Your friend is right, if there is no GPU then there would be no signal to your screen.
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So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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A lot of high-end phones have had dedicated GPUs for a long time now, the Krait S4 uses the Adreno 225 GPU.
Just like in bargain pc's, if the SoC doesn't have a dedicated GPU then it has an integrated GPU. You need graphics processing to have a screen, so its happening somewhere. You just get very bad results without a dedicated GPU.
The Wildfire runs MSM7225 at 600MHz I think, which has a cut-down Adreno 200.
All phones possess a GPU of sorts, although it is usually part of the SoC in modern smartphones. Even feature phones have a 'GPU', although it's usually just a basic Boradcom display controller with no 3D or video acceleration support
So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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Yep. A pretty good one.
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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We're entering the realm of SoCs now. Tegra is both a CPU and a GPU at the same time.
thyeme said:
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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I'll generalise for you:
In all modern smartphones, no matter what SoC is used, a 'piece' of the package is the GPU. Technically, they are integrated. This is common across all manufacturers, as separate chips for everything wastes power and PCB space.
To answer your question, in terms of contruction there are no differences. Adreno 200 is a small 'piece' of the MSM7225 chip, while whatever Tegra 3's GPU is called is a small 'piece' of the Tegra 3 chip
Hey Guys/girls, So im looking to Buy a Tablet. But im looking for the fastest. With a big screen, at the moment, im looking at the Note 10.1, and the Nexus 10, Im looking pref for 10 inch +, with Quad core, i dont know much about tablets so any info would be amazing!,
Thanks amatris,
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Hey Guys/girls, So im looking to Buy a Tablet. But im looking for the fastest. With a big screen, at the moment, im looking at the Note 10.1, and the Nexus 10, Im looking pref for 10 inch +, with Quad core, i dont know much about tablets so any info would be amazing!,
Thanks amatris,
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Nexus 10 destroys the Note 10.1, for cheaper.
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Nexus 10 destroys the Note 10.1, for cheaper.
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Im not to bothered about cost, but im looking around £400-500 ish mark, and i defo want a quad core, "i play Games alot"
also what about the overheating on tablets?, anyone run into this yet?
thanks, amatris
I dont think overheating will be much of a problem on either of those tablets. The nexus 7 and 10 are well built, I can't say anything about the note, but I would go with the google standard.
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I dont think overheating will be much of a problem on either of those tablets. The nexus 7 and 10 are well built, I can't say anything about the note, but I would go with the google standard.
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Ok thanks, but aren't the nexus dual core? That's all I can find with the nexus 10 the do you know of and good quad core tablets?
Thanks amatris.
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Ok thanks, but aren't the nexus dual core? That's all I can find with the nexus 10 the do you know of and good quad core tablets?
Thanks amatris.
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Even though the nexus 10 is a dual core it is still a beast. I bet it can outperform most quad core tabs
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Ok thanks, but aren't the nexus dual core? That's all I can find with the nexus 10 the do you know of and good quad core tablets?
Thanks amatris.
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The Nexus 10 is a dual core but it is a Google standard tablet so it is zippy, the Nexus 7 is a quad core. Both tablets are running hardware from nvidia so they are very good.
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Even though the nexus 10 is a dual core it is still a beast. I bet it can outperform most quad core tabs
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I have a galaxy note n7000, so the nexus 7 is kinda out, just for the pure fact that it wil give me 2" on the screen and 2 more cores, thats why i want a quad core, its a shame that asus have not got any 10" quad core tabs :-\ , but ill look at reviews for the nexus 10, but while im doing that , any other tabs out there anyone would recommend ?
Thanks amatris.
you should take a look on the microsoft surface. i have it and it's quite cool. it runs fast and smooth, it has office 2013, so in my personal opinion it is the ideal tablet
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I have a galaxy note n7000, so the nexus 7 is kinda out, just for the pure fact that it wil give me 2" on the screen and 2 more cores, thats why i want a quad core, its a shame that asus have not got any 10" quad core tabs :-\ , but ill look at reviews for the nexus 10, but while im doing that , any other tabs out there anyone would recommend ?
Thanks amatris.
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Why do you want quad core so bad?....it won't necessarily be better for gaming. GPU is something you should be more interested in. Quad core just eats a ton more battery and isn't going to necessarily give better performance. I say Nexus 10 all the way....plus you get the highest resolution screen on a tablet by a long shot.
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Hmm of thanks guys, Iv looked at bench marks with the nexus 7 and 10, and there is really not much difference, I will probably save for a nexus 10, shame it does not have a ad slot, also what gpu's should I be looking out for tablets?, just for info sake
Thanks for all of your help.
Amatris.
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Hmm of thanks guys, Iv looked at bench marks with the nexus 7 and 10, and there is really not much difference, I will probably save for a nexus 10, shame it does not have a ad slot, also what gpu's should I be looking out for tablets?, just for info sake
Thanks for all of your help.
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Have you looked at the Asus Transformer Infinity? It has a Quad-core NVIDIA Tegra-3 processor @ at 1.7GHZ. There are quite a few ROM's for it too. And an Micro-SD card slot.
Get the pickle tab 10.1 lol
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The Transformer Infinity (TF700) Vs the nexus 10?
im not sure what one to get but iv got it down to them, im looking for performance, and GPU,
im thinking about the The Transformer Infinity, for the quad core/Gpu, but then the nexus 10 has a faster clock speed, Any info guys? Or maybe the nexus 7?
thanks. amatris
I own an Asus Slider, but I recommend you Nexus 10.
The Nexus 10 wins hands down. Samsung has proven time and again how slow they are to keep up with Google in the Android Race. I would rather put my money with the company responsible for Android that Sammy who trips over their own broken promises. The specs are close, the price is better and the tablet will destroy anything you put in front of it.
Cheers.
Wait for tegra 4, it has a 72 core gpu
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you should take a look on the microsoft surface. i have it and it's quite cool. it runs fast and smooth, it has office 2013, so in my personal opinion it is the ideal *tablet
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iPad 4 is the fastest with quad core GPU and better software
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I know that samsung galaxy S4 has octacore processor ...and it is octacore processor...and snapdragon 600 is also in the market..
I just want to know which device should I prefer octacore or snapdragon 600..
Further I have heard a lot of things about the cheap build quality of Samsung and heating effect of exynos processors and it is closed source so not devloper friendly
So please explain in detail which one should I go for samsung octacore processor devices or should I go for snapdragon 600
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Snapdragon 600 are better than exynos octa core processors cause exynos processor gets very hot, my friend has Galaxy S2 which gets hot very quickly after some time of use but there is no problem with snapdragon 600 processors and they also are power efficient and the difference between the performance of the both processors is negligible.
And what about exynos being closed source
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It's open source now!
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And what about exynos being closed source
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Exynos getting hot, I've played with 3 different flavors of the Note2 and they never got running at the stock clock speed.
Since there are no released phones with the Eynos Octa processor it's hard to say. From what I heard it uses 4 cores specificly for low load states and then jumps to the other 4 cores for high load states. It never really uses all 8 cores at once. So I don't think the Octa core is going to be a huge performer over the Snapdragon 600. In the US, we will probably not see the Octa processor for sometime, Samsung is going with Qualcom for the US.
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Exynos getting hot, I've played with 3 different flavors of the Note2 and they never got running at the stock clock speed.
Since there are no released phones with the Eynos Octa processor in the wild, it's hard to say. From what I heard it uses 4 cores specificly for low load states and then jumps to the other 4 cores for high load states. It never really uses all 8 cores at once. So I don't think the Octa core is going to be a huge performer over the Snapdragon 600. In the US, we will probably not see the Octa processor for sometime, Samsung is going with Qualcom for the US.
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Snapdragon 600 are better than exynos octa core processors cause exynos processor gets very hot, my friend has Galaxy S2 which gets hot very quickly after some time of use but there is no problem with snapdragon 600 processors and they also are power efficient and the difference between the performance of the both processors is negligible.
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S2 use s4pro
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No s2 doesnt use s4 pro...who told u
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But when s4 was not released... There were rumors over tge net that samsung will be releasing s4 in s600 processor beacuse of heating effects of exynos processor..
But finally the came with both...
If it was only a15 quadcore then it will be huge battery sucker and heat producer...
During gaming or heavy usage.. Since it ll be using a15 cores...so it will be going to produce huge amount of heat...
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But when s4 was not released... There were rumors over tge net that samsung will be releasing s4 in s600 processor beacuse of heating effects of exynos processor..
But finally the came with both...
If it was only a15 quadcore then it will be huge battery sucker and heat producer...
During gaming or heavy usage.. Since it ll be using a15 cores...so it will be going to produce huge amount of heat...
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Is there a possibility that they maybe redisigning the A15 in the near future for more efficiency? Thats maybe one of the reasons that they didn't put it in the S4 on release date, or am i wrong on this?
Lets see...time will tell us which one is better
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