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TMo: web and talk simultaneously?

Can you browse and talk simultaneously with the myTouch 4G?
In strong 3G and 4G environments, I'm unable to browse the web and talk simultaneously on my MT4G.
This was never a problem on my G1 in 3G settings, oddly enough.
Should I be able to browse and talk at the same time on the MT4G when I have a good 3G or 4G connection?
Has anyone noticed this problem? Any fixes available?
I'm running Ice Glacier 1.1.6.
UPDATE: This dual use is working at the moment. Perhaps I've been in Edge networks or weak 3G for previous attempts.

thepza said:
Can you browse and talk simultaneously with the myTouch 4G?
In strong 3G and 4G environments, I'm unable to browse the web and talk simultaneously on my MT4G.
This was never a problem on my G1 in 3G settings, oddly enough.
Should I be able to browse and talk at the same time on the MT4G when I have a good 3G or 4G connection?
Has anyone noticed this problem? Any fixes available?
I'm running Ice Glacier 1.1.6.
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ANY GSM phone connect to 3G+ connections should be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time.

I have noticed the same issue... hmm was thinking it was a issue with my settings. May have to look into it.
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I've personally had mixed results with this... sometimes (in E, 3G and H) i can talk and browse at the same time, sometimes no dice, but anytime I am using the stock Wi-Fi Hotspot all my calls come through and it never breaks my tether.

anyone have any update on this? I can't find anything to fix it.

I recently bumped an old thread from early dec abbot the same issue. It seems many ppl are having the same problem. I too am having mixed results. I will have 3g fine when not in a call, but once I'm in a call, data along with mms function gets killed. However, a few times I moved closer to a window and I would get the 3g icon back. So I can only chalk it up to reception. it seems being on a call somehow effects 3g reception. I don't have a technical explanation for that though.
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I had this issue back in late 2009, using a G1 then. TMO was only giving the Orlando area about 800 kbps down, but voice + data should still work. My actual 3g icon would vanish as soon as I got on a call.
TMO opened a ticket to have a field tech check towers, but I never heard anything back.
A coupla weeks later, Orlando had an outage. I went into a TMO store to see what was up and to gripe about the outage. We were given two, free CliqXTs. Shhhh, I said they were GIVEN to us. (and I will stick with HTC devices from here on out.)
Well, same issue. We then put in the NEW SIM, as opposed to using the one I got with my G1 in 2008, voila! My fiancee had the same issue. Swapped her old SIM, voila!
So for me, it was an issue with how the old SIM worked on the network (or didn't work).
Nonetheless, on a GSM network, concurrent voice/data should be possible, so if it's not a matter of just poor coverage in your area, I would go to a TMO store and/or call customer care.
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It works for me, even when I use it as a wifi hotspot at Starbucks (Because it's better than their free wifi . I'm able to call and txt and browse the net and receive calls while I am browsing on the laptop. It's very nice IMO

It's weird because it didn't work for me on the stock ROM but it works fine on CM7.
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Do you still have a backup of your stock ROM before you went to CM7? If it's "something inside the ROM," then it should be an easy test.
Since the hardware obviously didn't change, it almost sounds like a APN or Mobile Network settings issue. Can you compare your stock to CM7 and see if there's any difference?

Sometimes if you're on a voice call for a while, you'll drop down to 2G. When that happens, your ability to do simultaneous voice and data goes away. If you're mobile data indicator goes away while on a call then this is what's going on. You can verify under the the "Network" part of the "About Phone" screen.
You can mitigate this somewhat by setting your phone to 3G only mode but this can cause it's own set of issues. If your phone wants to move to 2G because of signal quality issues but can't because you have it set to 3G only mode, your call might end up dropping altogether.

shlongwoodian said:
I had this issue back in late 2009, using a G1 then. TMO was only giving the Orlando area about 800 kbps down, but voice + data should still work. My actual 3g icon would vanish as soon as I got on a call.
TMO opened a ticket to have a field tech check towers, but I never heard anything back.
A coupla weeks later, Orlando had an outage. I went into a TMO store to see what was up and to gripe about the outage. We were given two, free CliqXTs. Shhhh, I said they were GIVEN to us. (and I will stick with HTC devices from here on out.)
Well, same issue. We then put in the NEW SIM, as opposed to using the one I got with my G1 in 2008, voila! My fiancee had the same issue. Swapped her old SIM, voila!
So for me, it was an issue with how the old SIM worked on the network (or didn't work).
Nonetheless, on a GSM network, concurrent voice/data should be possible, so if it's not a matter of just poor coverage in your area, I would go to a TMO store and/or call customer care.
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So new sim cards solved your issues? Did your data speed/coverage improve at all?
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@Phate - In that particular incident, yes, the new SIM resolved my issue. I had the issue on my G1 and then TMO gave us two free CliqXTs to retain us. We used the same SIMs from our G1s and the issue persisted. I called back in to TMO and they recommended using the new SIMs, as they said they'd seen issues with certain "older" ones.
From that point on, we could browse and talk. Prior to that, you'd see the 3G icon vanish while you were on a call. As soon as you ended the call, the 3G icon would come back.
Our speed then was around 800 kbps down, which isn't blazing fast but it's definitely more than EDGE. Once we got the new SIMs, the speed was still at 800 kbps down in the general Downtown Orlando area (keep in mind, this is early 2010). Over the next few months, the speeds got better and better and then we ultimately ditched our CliqXTs when the Glacier became available.
So in my case, Phate, the SIM resolved our simultaneous voice/data - it did not increase our speed, not explicitly.
Hope this helps!

shlongwoodian said:
@Phate - In that particular incident, yes, the new SIM resolved my issue. I had the issue on my G1 and then TMO gave us two free CliqXTs to retain us. We used the same SIMs from our G1s and the issue persisted. I called back in to TMO and they recommended using the new SIMs, as they said they'd seen issues with certain "older" ones.
From that point on, we could browse and talk. Prior to that, you'd see the 3G icon vanish while you were on a call. As soon as you ended the call, the 3G icon would come back.
Our speed then was around 800 kbps down, which isn't blazing fast but it's definitely more than EDGE. Once we got the new SIMs, the speed was still at 800 kbps down in the general Downtown Orlando area (keep in mind, this is early 2010). Over the next few months, the speeds got better and better and then we ultimately ditched our CliqXTs when the Glacier became available.
So in my case, Phate, the SIM resolved our simultaneous voice/data - it did not increase our speed, not explicitly.
Hope this helps!
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It does help, thanks. I've been using the same sim since my Samsung e315 flip phone.
Maybe it's time for a new one, lol.
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@ Phateless, Did you happen to try a new sim? did it help anything?

Daguse said:
@ Phateless, Did you happen to try a new sim? did it help anything?
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Nah, service hasn't been bad, was just curious if it would get better. Never followed up on it.

I tried everything I could think of then broke down and went to the store today. The guy restarted the phone insisting that would fix it. Even when I told him I do it all the time. Thats when he blamed it on the custom rom due to the boot animation I have on it. I reassured him that its still the same rom, so he wanted to wipe it. Told him I tried it and no go. I had already told him I just wanted a new sim and he refused to even look at it. So at this point I asked for the manager. First they I told the manager was I could not get data and voice at the same time and I wanted a new sim. He popped the sim card and said it was only a 3g sim (kinda odd cause its a sim from a wing and could get H.)
Long store short he gave me a new sim and it works fine. So make sure you don't let anyone know you have a rooted phone... the idiots like to think thats the reason for all the problems.

With all due respect I wouldn't even walk into a T-mobile store with a rooted phone.
At the bare minimum I would nandroid back to stock rooted rom before going in.
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I never had that problem back in the day with my g1
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yeah I know... I kinda was just hopping he would look at the sim. Even before he rebooted and found it was rooted he insisted it was something else. Its all good phone works great now!

Talk and Surf.. why doesnt Verizon Promote this?

We all know that the Thunderbolt can talk and surf over 3G and 4G.. why doesnt Verizon promote this? This seems like it'd be a cool selling point since ATT constantly uses this as a knock against VZ's network.
Does talk and surf not work in all markets? Does Verizon not want to confuse owners of other phones? I cant see why they dont advertise this more..

i know right i rub it in peoples faces lol

It isn't quite up to Verizon standards. At least that was what was on the initial info material for the Thunderbolt. Seems to work fine the couple times I've tried it.

There have been creative differences on how to present the "Can you hear me now? Good.. Oh, and I just got your e-mail" tv commercials.
Plus only having 1 phone that can do it ATM might be a little premature gloating for the entire network.. Although yes I do it.

It would also advertise to most folks that aren't aware (the non-techies) that talk & data is not available on every other phone... It's a fine line. It's as if Verizon would admit that the lack of this feature is a problem that only 1 phone could resolve.
I'm guessing the marketing weenies took a hard look at this
just my $.02

bill102938 said:
It's as if Verizon would admit that the lack of this feature is a problem that only 1 phone could resolve.
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Technically that's the case because of the way the radios are used. The Thunderbolt could be the only one for a while capable of simultaneous voice & data over 3G.

I don't know many people who see that as a must have feature. Including friends who have ATT. Never seen anyone use it.

because AT&T iDouches need something to keep them feeling like they have the better phone/network..
verizon's just bein nice..and how would it look if they came along after all this time and advertised the one phone in the entire lineup that could do it?

There really isn't any point. LTE isn't large enough, only one phone out (as of now). And really how many times would you need to use it?

lippstuh said:
There really isn't any point. LTE isn't large enough, only one phone out (as of now). And really how many times would you need to use it?
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it works over 3g too dude

I use it at least once a day. Doesn't the Charge do it also? If so thats two phones and I believe all the future LTE phones will be able to do it.

LakerStar25 said:
I use it at least once a day. Doesn't the Charge do it also? If so thats two phones and I believe all the future LTE phones will be able to do it.
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It should do it when on LTE or Wifi but not necessarily 3G like the Thunderbolt. My understanding is that with the cpu and radio chips being made by Qualcomm, it was easier to get the voice and data working over 3G in addition to the other two.

Yeah I was over in one of the Charge forums and they were talking about how they could not talk and surf at the same time over 3G. The TBolt is definitely still unique in this regard.
As to why they don't push the issue in advertising, I agree that with only one device being able to do it over 3G, it's a little premature. Plus, they are trying to push 4G LTE and going back and touting 3G simultaneous data and voice would be taking a step back in some ways(especially when it's only one device).
When there are more LTE devices available I would expect to hear more about it's advantages, including voice+data.

this is a little bit off topic, is it just me or it seems to that there are no dual core phones with lte coming out? seem like the only one was the bionic and that got trashed

bogatyr said:
I don't know many people who see that as a must have feature. Including friends who have ATT. Never seen anyone use it.
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I always felt this was a useless feature too that att kept gloating about to make the pompous Iphone owners feel superior with their phones. I always would run into an iPhone user who would constantly compare his phone saying "can your phone do this.. can your phone do that".
I agree Verizon should hammer back that the tbolt can do that plus other things the iPhone can't. I think its worth while for Verizon to advertise who is superior now regardless if it is a useless feature.

you can talk and surf at the same time on the tbolt? haha i honestly did not know that. thanks for the tip!

I use it everyday many times... On conference calls, sending/receiving emails, looking things up, send maps links, etc. My crew calls for info, I can pull it up, countless things.
And yes, it works on both 4G and 3G. Always.
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I think AT&T tried to make it a bigger deal than it actually was.
I still have yet to use voice and data at the same time, even going back to my iPhone days.

They'll tout it once it becomes more common for the phones that Verizon has available. Since only one can do it now, they'd have to specifically focus on the Thunderbolt, and would have to say ONLY the Thunderbolt has that capability.
I too never saw the big deal of chatting on the phone and surfing the web at the same time, sure it's a cool feature, but for me personally I have the phone to my ear when I'm talking, and surfing would only be a distraction. I liked AT&T when I had them, but I've always hated the iPhone and detested the iPhone users that go out of their way to point out what it can do. Here's something for them, can it do 4G LTE? Yeah, didn't think so. Dual LED flash? Far more customization? No dice!

being able to take a phone call and use the navi is a huge plus... also looking up something on the web while on the phone is a great feature

just got gx2 having some issues

I just got the phone today me and fiance both got same phone we were told our area had 3g coverage i contacted tmobile support and the tech stated it is not availabe he actually suggested we seek another carrier anyone have any suggestions to getting better quality signal and data...

Since you bought it from Tmob you should ask and get the unlock codes for free and also should be opt out of the early contract termination fee as well because it was not your fault about the coverage area. Don't let them push you around. Stick to your guns that the tmob rep said you would have 3G and yet you do not.
Check with ATT and see if they have better coverage in your area. The G2X can work on ATT networks as well but you would have to do some research on the settings and etc.
Thats my two cents if your gonna leave Tmob and keep the phones.
As for getting better reception or data signal theres pretty much nothing you can do to make it better if the towers aren't there.

fabricatedhero said:
Since you bought it.......
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Agree with all that, maybe you can get the phone as a Standard rate plan, which they don't offer with smart phones. You can then use it wifi all over the place. And when the merger hits, you might get better reception if they can share antenna....though some say the G2x will not work on any 3G ATT signals.

thanks for the responses
Yea ive been searching around seeing if there was a fix or noticable difference in rooted pre gb releases for better sig/data strength and such i even caled tmo when i got home and spoke with tech rep and he suggested that i just return devices and go to a diff network I felt that was a horrible way to represent the company. Didnt even try or make a feeble attempt to troubleshoot just blew it off to ah well you dont get 3g in your area so to bad basically.

fabricatedhero said:
Since you bought it from Tmob you should ask and get the unlock codes for free and also should be opt out of the early contract termination fee as well because it was not your fault about the coverage area. Don't let them push you around. Stick to your guns that the tmob rep said you would have 3G and yet you do not.
Check with ATT and see if they have better coverage in your area. The G2X can work on ATT networks as well but you would have to do some research on the settings and etc.
Thats my two cents if your gonna leave Tmob and keep the phones.
As for getting better reception or data signal theres pretty much nothing you can do to make it better if the towers aren't there.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the G2X only works on the 1700mhz 3G band. ATT does not use this band so he would be stuck on 2g, which is exactly the problem he's having with tmobs now.

well i should have gone further in to detail
The issue is in the store i was told that i would be in a 3g area once i got home i was only staring at the letter G on the highway i had 2G but at home now even outside I am at G and tech on the phone said i was in 2g area then proceeded to tell me i should look in to another company problem is ive tried verizon which is incredible service horrible support and sprint which had great customer service but horrid service I can travel to mount vernon and data roam.

knickfan5745 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the G2X only works on the 1700mhz 3G band. ATT does not use this band so he would be stuck on 2g, which is exactly the problem he's having with tmobs now.
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Hmmm you might be right and i have to retract my statement cuz now ever since the phone was released it showed that it was quad band and had both bands for tmob and ATT for 2g/3g/4g bands and now LG says its not.
Even Tmobs site showed it had that capability. I'm reading into it now. Thanks for the refresh course.

No one suggested WiFi Calling? I use it at work and its awesome. Really cuts down on battery usage too. Plus WiFi Calling is now FREE on Tmobile so why WOULDN'T you want to use it at home or at work?
Beats paying AT&T for a $100 WiFi Extender and having it come out of your bank of minutes.
Plus WiFi Calling works over standard WiFi, so even at McDonalds it will work.
Of course this is under the assumption that there IS some coverage around your home. If there was NO service then I would probably just look elsewhere. If you can at least make calls in your neighborhood and calls, text, and surf the web at home (using WiFi Calling and WiFi) then that isn't so bad. Text messages work on any network grade. The only issue you'd have with a slower network is data. But if there is decent service "around" your house, then WiFi calling works wonders to make sure you are online around your home.
It would actually be kinda cool to reply on a WiFi router for service because at 10pm I could just pull the plug and cells go off. No kids texting at 2am.

fabricatedhero said:
Hmmm you might be right and i have to retract my statement cuz now ever since the phone was released it showed that it was quad band and had both bands for tmob and ATT for 2g/3g/4g bands and now LG says its not.
Even Tmobs site showed it had that capability. I'm reading into it now. Thanks for the refresh course.
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No one really knows but Tmobile is releasing lots of "Quad-band" phones in the event the AT&T merger goes through. They've even stated they ONCE the merger goes through, they will unlock the other frequencies.
So while there is no absolute answer whether our phones are truely quad-band until we crack it open and actually test, it would be odd that it passed FCC, had it listed on the website, and touted as one of the biggest features... only to NOT have no such hardware.
Makes more sense that Tmobile just "locked it up" for now.

mikeew83 said:
Yea ive been searching around seeing if there was a fix or noticable difference in rooted pre gb releases for better sig/data strength and such i even caled tmo when i got home and spoke with tech rep and he suggested that i just return devices and go to a diff network I felt that was a horrible way to represent the company. Didnt even try or make a feeble attempt to troubleshoot just blew it off to ah well you dont get 3g in your area so to bad basically.
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There really isn't much the csr over the phone can do. If you don't have service the person on the phone can't magically teleport a tower into your hood.
They offered you the chance to return the phone and get your money back. How else would you like them to proceed when they can't provide you with service?

Thanks all for the responses
Yea thats what ive been doing just got it set up to wifi in the house honestly out and about not that big an issue as i already have everything i need on the phone at that point unless its a game using data based connectivity which i can deal the phone in itself is just to nice for me to let go of and as for the last post honestly youve waited your breathe and I dont appreciate the rudeness really there is no magic tmo fairy to pop out of my ass and stick a new tower in my back yard gosh there goes that idea. but yea def love the phone testing out root lol i couldnt wait day 1 rooted and working on a good rom/kernel combo in the near future you can look forward to me buildling from aosp soon as this has been something i have been nearing for quite a while now just couldnt find a decent enough phone to dev on so be on the look out for the Triumph Rom coming soon to your neck of the woods.

I was rude? I thought I was just being logical and asked what you would have done if you were the csr.
I'm glad you are at least trying the phone out via wifi, 99% of the people here would have ditched it.

well if i mistook you i apologize
But i def would not recommend someone leave my business for another without prior checking thoroughly to see what other options there may be this guy spent 5 minutes on the phone with me he was in tech support and did no do any literally anything to troubleshoot why i was listed in a 2g area but only getting 1g was my big issue but honestly ill take this over sprint any day i cannot leave the house 5 minutes in any direction without data roaming so just pushed over dark and sin with faux kernel going to set it up and test drive I will be working up some gb roms once official release is out which from the reads i have found is only sometime soon. heres to hoping.

Talk and Surf - Really Verizon???

I love my S6, but I can't believe Verizon doesn't let you talk and surf at the same time, like you could with the S5.
I have advanced calling on, which theoretically let's you do it, but if you are not on LTE, it won't work.
Really Verizon? I thought we were in 2015.

Wait so if you're in 3g we can't do voice and data? That sucks been doing it since my note 2 days

I have no problem doing both while connected to advanced calling. However, if advanced calling isn't available, I can't surf the internet. This isn't a Verizon thing, it's a Samsung deal. They didn't include the radio to allow for it. This may very well have sealed the deal for me to take it back and stick with the Note 4. Being in a rural area a lot, I need both no matter what network is currently available.

It's a CDMA carrier issue with these newer phones that only have a single antenna for cellular radio.
Droid Turbo, Moto X, Nexus 6, HTC m9, etc...
It would be the same on other CDMA carriers such as Sprint.

I first noticed it when I got a Droid Turbo, and it was really frustrating. You also notice it when using SignalCheck Pro, on my G3 you see a 1X and LTE connection active, but on the S6 you see either or depending on your connection.

You wouldn't think it would add much cost to the phone with the second antenna.

VoLTE has always required LTE to function. The giveaway is the freaking "LTE" in the name.

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VoLTE has always required LTE to function. The giveaway is the freaking "LTE" in the name.
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I'm fairly certain everyone in here knows this. The issue isn't with VoLTE, it's that they left a radio out that allows talking and surfing without VoLTE. Note 4 and LG G3 could do it before they received the update that made them VoLTE capable.

You're confusing simultaneous voice and data with VoLTE. OP sure didn't understand that LTE is required for VoLTE.
What has changed is that Verizon is starting to ONLY support simultaneous voice/data VIA VoLTE, in place of extra radios.

Unfortunately this is Verizon's trend. In theory it should improve battery life vs a two radio system. In theory...
They're pushing for this and honestly I think it's a bad choice, at least in the short term. Calls while using VoLTE on Verizon are 100% dependent on your LTE signal. So if it gets too weak or you have to switch to 3G, the call drops. It also can be unusable if the LTE signal is weak. Verizon's FAQ even says if you're in an area of weak LTE or spotty LTE, to disable VoLTE. AT&T and T-Mobile have a fallback so the call won't drop.

To be sure that I am understanding correctly, let me ask it in a dumb downed way.
When you are on 3g and make a call, you can NOT use internet simultaneously.
If you make a call while in LTE, you CAN use the internet while in the call.
This has been the case with VZ and LTE as far as I can remember. No LTE, no internet+call.
Is this situation different? Think I am just misreading and not understanding.
EDIT: And to be clear, I am talking about the beginnings of LTE. Like in the Thunderbolt days. The advanced calling feature was not around that I am aware of.

fire3element said:
To be sure that I am understanding correctly, let me ask it in a dumb downed way.
When you are on 3g and make a call, you can NOT use internet simultaneously.
If you make a call while in LTE, you CAN use the internet while in the call.
This has been the case with VZ and LTE as far as I can remember. No LTE, no internet+call.
Is this situation different? Think I am just misreading and not understanding.
EDIT: And to be clear, I am talking about the beginnings of LTE. Like in the Thunderbolt days. The advanced calling feature was not around that I am aware of.
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There are a number of techs involved with have both voice and data for CDMA phones/network like VZW. In the past, VZW LTE phones could connect Data on the 4G LTE and have voice connection over 3G/CDMA simultaneously but on the newer phones like the Turbo, Nexus 6, S6 this is no longer possible UNLESS you have VoLTE enabled and are in a 4G LTE location.
The Thunderbolt actually can have both 3G data and Voice simultaneously and one of the few phones which could do that but the battery quickly dries up
my 2 cents

Ah ok, makes sense. That is what I thought, just wanted to make sure.
Guess I will hold on longer to my Note 3 and S3(love it)for a while longer. The S3 is still a great phone in my opinion. Does what you need, and fairly well. Plus you pretty much can recover from any brick status.
Sad to see the way phones are going. Locked bootloaders, no root, forced crapware, no sd card, built in battery.
Next up will be DNA link to your device for "Security". That silly fingerprint reader is so yesteryear.

Radios
WTF? Am I the only one who needs to use data while on a long (conference) call?
I spend most of my time in metro areas with LTE, but Verizon wants to alter my unlimited data plan to activate voLTE. Not happening.
My VZW LG G3 didn't have this issue. I'm no expert here, but there won't be a root or ROM that is going to help me with this problem, right? This is a hardware issue, correct?
Looks like my wife is getting a shiny new Samsung phone.

w0216420 said:
WTF? Am I the only one who needs to use data while on a long (conference) call?
I spend most of my time in metro areas with LTE, but Verizon wants to alter my unlimited data plan to activate voLTE. Not happening.
My VZW LG G3 didn't have this issue. I'm no expert here, but there won't be a root or ROM that is going to help me with this problem, right? This is a hardware issue, correct?
Looks like my wife is getting a shiny new Samsung phone.
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Talk and data works fine on LTE.
You won't lose your unlimited plan to use VoLTE, I use it just fine.
The G3 was one of the last phones to use two radios simultaneously. A ROM won't fix it.
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With the original Edge I know you sacrificed an antenna for the screen so no surfing and voice. Are you all saying even the regular S6 only has 1 antenna?

thuddome said:
With the original Edge I know you sacrificed an antenna for the screen so no surfing and voice. Are you all saying even the regular S6 only has 1 antenna?
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Yes. If you don't have an LTE connection and don't have Advanced Calling enabled, you won't get simultaneous voice and data.

thuddome said:
With the original Edge I know you sacrificed an antenna for the screen so no surfing and voice. Are you all saying even the regular S6 only has 1 antenna?
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It's all recent Verizon phones. The Nexus 6, Droid Turbo, One M9, S6, etc. None can talk and surf at the same time without VoLTE.

Yeah I'm guessing we are headed towards total VOIP.

thuddome said:
Yeah I'm guessing we are headed towards total VOIP.
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That's what Verizon wants. It would be great if Verizon had a fallback if LTE was weak or drops... but as it is right now, it simply takes what Verizon was known for (call reliability) and throws it down the toilet. Ok, it's not that bad... but in the years we were with Verizon before VoLTE, I really don't think I ever dropped a call. I'm sure that's not true, but it was rare. Since VoLTE, it probably happens a few times a month, easy, maybe more . And since I got the S6 last Friday, I've had 4 total due to what appears to be a weaker LTE signal in general on the S6.

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So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.

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So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.
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Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!

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Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!
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Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.

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Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.
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Well, crap. Thank you for conducting the experiment. Yeah, it's the Pixel 2XL WITH an sd card slot, which is what I want, except apparently without Band 2, the thing's hobbled. I was gonna install the Google HDR+ camera app and have it all! Damn.
I got my hopes up because I saw reports of people bringing the Exynos Note 8 over here and getting it to work, but IT has Band 2! Seriously, how tough is it to add these bands! Do people want to sell phones or not?!!
Anyway, thanks again. An answer is an answer, even if it's not the one I was hoping for.
And yeah, if you're reclaiming that term, I completely respect that, but I still gotta go with CJ.

Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.

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Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.

Chund3r said:
I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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Sorry for the delayed response, but I got it from Amazon. Took about 4-5 days to receive it even though Amazons system said 2 weeks. I also just noticed that it's a decent amount cheaper now as well compared to when I bought it in December by over $100.
HTC U11 Plus (2Q4D100) 6GB / 128GB 6.0-inches LTE Dual SIM Factory Unlocked - International Stock No Warranty (Ceramic Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07849L28F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TMqHAbDAA316F

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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I agree with this I've had zero issues so far since getting this phone. Only had it for a day now but prior to I ran LTE Discover on my HTC U11 and saw I very rarely used Band 2 (San Diego). After some digging I saw how Band 2 works on T-Mobile and I'm OK without it. I'll be in Vegas in a week so I'll be curious how it holds up there, though I don't really expect hiccups. The one thing I do want to get back is VOLTE/VOWIFI.

Chund3r said:
I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.

LadyDi said:
I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.
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No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.

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No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.
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Thank you. I did install LTE Discovery and was able to get information on what band I am on and more. It keeps flipping back to 'H' loads which is made me wondering what I might be doing wrong if it is not in the phone itself. I am in a strong 4G LTE area for work (base) and home. My Nexus 6 and my Note 5 always read 4G LTE in an area as such. I still love this phone even though it's not 2 weeks old yet.

I'm tempted to get this for an upgrade from my HTC 10. I don't care too much about the dual camera for the HTC 12+, plus I want it in Red which might not even come out in the US. So with the bigger battery 3,900 mah, about $200 less and the red color now. Would this be a good buy if I typically travel around the east coast?

I have one I purchased on a recent trip overseas to Taiwan. My carrier here in the US is Tmobile and I only have connectivity issues in rural areas. Can someone point me to a stock ROM from Tmobile that would be compatible with this phone?
Thanks.