[GUIDE}★Downgrade 4.3 to 4.1.2★Unlock bootloader★Root - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

MOD EDIT:
This method has been known to hard brick devices. If you don't believe me, just read the last couple pages of posts. If you still want to proceed, the risk is all yours.
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It has been believed that it is impossible to downgrade 4.3 to 4.1 because of knox or something which i don't know about
But this tutorial will help you downgrade without sending your phone to some website which will run you about 50$
Anyways lets start
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR BELOVED PHONE SO DON'T BLAME ME
ALL LINKS ARE BELOW
★Pre-Requisites★​
1. A verizon Galaxy S3 (duh )
2. Odin (any version)
3. 4.1.2 update MB1
4. 4.3 update ML1 ( I guess other 4.3 builds work. Please test and report)
6. Cygwin
5. A functioning brain
★Downgrading★​
1. Download both 4.1.2 and 4.3 updates (MB1 and ML1 respectively)
2. Create a folder called ModedRom
3. Open the 4.3 update using Winzip
4. Extract a file called "NON-HLOS" and place it in the folder you just created
5. Open the 4.1.2 update using Winzip
6. Extract all files except "NON-HLOS" and "aboot.mbn" and place them in the folder you've created earlier
7. Download and install Cygwin
8. Go to Computer > C: > Cygwin folder > home > and create a folder and name it like your profile (When you log into windows)
9. Place all the files in the "ModedRom" folder there
10. Open cygwin.bat (In cygwin folder in C: drive)
11. Type in the following commands and wait for the "$" sign after each command
First:
tar -H ustar -c boot.img cache.img.ext4 NON-HLOS.bin recovery.img rpm.mbn sbl2.mbn sbl3.mbn system.img.ext4 tz.mbn > S3ModedRom.tar
Second:
md5sum -t S3ModedRom.tar >> S3ModedRom.tar
Third:
mv S3ModedRom.tar S3ModedRom.tar.md5
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12. Now there Should be a MD5 file created in the folder where you placed all the files in
13. Connect your device and flash the MD5 file created using Odin
★You have just downgraded to 4.1.2★
★Unlocking Bootloader , Root and Recovery★​
1. Download Casual flashing program
2. Enable USB debugging
3. Root Your phone with the root option
4. Flash the insecure bootloader (This unlocks the bootloader)
5. Flash custom recovery of your choice
★Links★​
4.1.2 MB1 update https://goo.gl/ZCrteg
4.3 ML1 update https://goo.gl/5WyL5O
Odin http://goo.gl/mkYG3P
Cygwin http://goo.gl/Kr5fEg
Casual program for Unlocking bootloader and Rooting and Recovery http://goo.gl/MYaxb2
★Credits★​
Adam Outler
Djrbliss
Chainfire
TeamWin
Koush
BeansTown106
therealdavinci (Youtube Channel)
If I missed anyone just let me know

can this be used to unlock already locked bootloaders?
I have NE1 and would be interested in this as would everybody else...

i do miss using my s3, itd be nice to get it unlocked (on NE1 as well). guess theres still a tiny shred of hope if 4.3 is finally able to get unlocked, nice to see someones still fighting the good fight.

has anyone tryed this yet? I'm on 4.3 NC1

je2854 said:
can this be used to unlock already locked bootloaders?
I have NE1 and would be interested in this as would everybody else...
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Yes it can be used on an already locked device
When I flashed official ML1 (Coming from CM11) the post that had the links said in big read words that flashing official 4.3 will lock bootloader FOREVER but i didn't give up and came up with this

nikkifm said:
has anyone tryed this yet? I'm on 4.3 NC1
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I've tried this myself and it worked perfectly
But I don't know about MC1 as i had ML1
But It should work since NC1 is just an incremental update

-somebody- said:
i do miss using my s3, itd be nice to get it unlocked (on NE1 as well). guess theres still a tiny shred of hope if 4.3 is finally able to get unlocked, nice to see someones still fighting the good fight.
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I heard that you can downgrade from 4.4 to 4.3
If this is true then you can follow my tutorial to get back to 4.1 with all the goodies

berezker said:
I heard that you can downgrade from 4.4 to 4.3
If this is true then you can follow my tutorial to get back to 4.1 with all the goodies
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ive been away from here for some time, i wasnt aware of that. ill look into that, thanks

berezker said:
I've tried this myself and it worked perfectly
But I don't know about MC1 as i had ML1
But It should work since NC1 is just an incremental update
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I'll have to try this sometime soon this weekend would love to have a unlocked s3 again old s3 died a year ago thankfully Verizon replaced it but hope it works thanks for the post

downloading tonight and will try this at work tomorrow..
IF this successfully works from a NE1 standpoint I will
NOT hesitate to buy a week's worth of beer or lunch!

I am pretty sure a qfuse was tripped, which leaves you stuck on NE1. Some pieces can be changed, but by large, it will be NE1
EDIT: I was right, no going back from NE1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337

XxD34THxX said:
I am pretty sure a qfuse was tripped, which leaves you stuck on NE1. Some pieces can be changed, but by large, it will be NE1
EDIT: I was right, no going back from NE1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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Try using safestrap and flash 4.3 (any build)

berezker said:
Try using safestrap and flash 4.3 (any build)
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last i knew, once you were on NE1 you were screwed. you cant flash anything 4.3 not even in safestrap cause of the whole kernel thing.

berezker said:
Try using safestrap and flash 4.3 (any build)
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Yeah, that resulted in a soft brick. I already tried this on a friends phone

Why MB1?
MF1 was the newest safe firmware.

any confirmation on this?

You cannot downgrade from NE1. again, a qfuse was tripped, and flashing the wrong thing will brick it.

A while back I had to send my phone in to Samsung for repair. When I got it back, I was crushed that it came back with a new, locked bootloader and 4.3 ML1 firmware This allowed me to jump back to 4.1.2 and unlock the bootloader.. AWESOME.

I've been trying this method since last night. I start with the ML1 installed. I do all the necessary steps to make the new tarball. I use Odin to flash the new file and when it reboots it gets stuck on the Verizon splash image (the one directly before it gets to the lockscreen) but goes no further. I shall keep trying, redoing the process. Ill post back if i get anywhere with it or if i find out i am dumb.

Is there any way to go from 4.4.2 to 4.1? I feel like I might be screwed.

Related

CF-Auto Root for MH8 firmware

Chainfire has updated his CF auto root for the annoying new MH8 firmware with new bootloader!
Yay we can now root our new firmware.
Here's his Google plus page for CF Auto Root download
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/5ggu7naWtaW
Thanks Chainfire, you're the man!!!
Obagleyfreer said:
Chainfire has updated his CF auto root for the annoying new MH8 firmware with new bootloader!
Yay we can now root our new firmware.
Here's his Google plus page for CF Auto Root download
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/5ggu7naWtaW
Thanks Chainfire, you're the man!!!
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Pointless thread. Everyone knows to find chainfires thread.
boterkaaseneieren said:
Pointless thread. Everyone knows to find chainfires thread.
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Well yes, but still good to know and please don't be offended by his comment. That kind of comment is indeed pointless! We're all here to learn and have fun, keep this kind of comment to yourself please...
Basically, looks like Samsung is pulling the same sort of crap they pulled with the S3 bootloader to prevent status resets under the false pretense of security improvements.
can we downgrade with this
pnr2020 said:
can we downgrade with this
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No you can't
Once you flash it you're stuck on this firmware.
I found that out the hard way
donalgodon said:
Basically, looks like Samsung is pulling the same sort of crap they pulled with the S3 bootloader to prevent status resets under the false pretense of security improvements.
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Yeah that's what I thought too.
Hopefully we can fix it in time
Obagleyfreer said:
No you can't
Once you flash it you're stuck on this firmware.
I found that out the hard way
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oh no my battery drained 30% over night phone laggy so i will not be able to put custom rom on phone anymore will we ever be able to downgrade or are we stuck
pnr2020 said:
oh no my battery drained 30% over night phone laggy so i will not be able to put custom rom on phone anymore will we ever be able to downgrade or are we stuck
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I'm really not sure.
Hopefully there will be a fix I don't know what I would do with a phone I cant run CM on, I'm so p**ssed off right now at this.
Does anyone know if we flash an older firmware in Odin with a .pit file would that fix things?
give me instructions on how to flash firmware with pit file and i will try i got insurance on my phone so dont care if it goes wrong i just need to downgrade
pnr2020 said:
give me instructions on how to flash firmware with pit file and i will try i got insurance on my phone so dont care if it goes wrong i just need to downgrade
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Try here and let us know please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2401685 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2354122
DjeMBeY said:
Try here and let us know please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2401685 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2354122
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will try it now and let you know asap oh my god 2hrs to download files i hate hotfile
I just manged to get back to CM and my SElinux status back to permisive from MH8
I deleted a load of bloat from system app(knox is probably what helped) after rooting.
Then flashed official clockworkmod recovery image file using SGS4 Flasher.
Then booted to recovery and formated system (it wasnt mounted!!) cache and data and restored my backup
Im sooooo happy!
Sent from my GT-I9505 whilst taking a s**t
Obagleyfreer said:
I'm really not sure.
Hopefully there will be a fix I don't know what I would do with a phone I cant run CM on, I'm so p**ssed off right now at this.
Does anyone know if we flash an older firmware in Odin with a .pit file would that fix things?
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Flashing older firmware with PIT didn't work for me.
pnr2020 said:
will try it now and let you know asap oh my god 2hrs to download files i hate hotfile
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Let me know if it works for you - unfortunately didn't for me.
Obagleyfreer said:
I just manged to get back to CM and my SElinux status back to permisive from MH8
I deleted a load of bloat from system app(knox is probably what helped) after rooting.
Then flashed official clockworkmod recovery image file using SGS4 Flasher.
Then booted to recovery and formated system (it wasnt mounted!!) cache and data and restored my backup
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Any chance of a step-by-step guide on how you did this? Especially what you deleted. Also is there any chance it would work if you wanted to go back to an older stock ROM? Reason I want/need stock is because I use the Bluetooth RSAP profile - unless anyone knows if this is included in the CM ROMS...
If you boot into recovery does it have any of the KNOX lines or is the recovery with CM different to stock? If so perhaps it would be possible to do something like (assuming I've understood correctly) : Root Phone -> Install CM -> Un CM the phone with a stock ROM?
Obagleyfreer said:
I just manged to get back to CM and my SElinux status back to permisive from MH8
I deleted a load of bloat from system app(knox is probably what helped) after rooting.
Then flashed official clockworkmod recovery image file using SGS4 Flasher.
Then booted to recovery and formated system (it wasnt mounted!!) cache and data and restored my backup
Im sooooo happy!
Sent from my GT-I9505 whilst taking a s**t
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please put up a step by step guide to what you did
pnr2020 said:
give me instructions on how to flash firmware with pit file and i will try i got insurance on my phone so dont care if it goes wrong i just need to downgrade
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pnr2020 said:
will try it now and let you know asap oh my god 2hrs to download files i hate hotfile
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I've prepared special ZIP, it should (in theory) downgrade bootloaders
NOT TESTED YET!!!! IT CAN BRICK YOUR PHONE!!
Instructions:
1. Download and copy ZIP to SD/ExtSD card
2. Check if you have BusyBox in /sbin, if not, copy and paste it from /xbin
3. Reboot into Custom Recovery (CWM/TWRP etc)
4. Install ZIP
5. Reboot
Please report how it goes
@DjeMBeY
thanks for bootloader and i added here that same bootloader but for Odin cread as tar file
Zippyshare ---> http://www28.zippyshare.com/v/62712373/file.html
no work
DjeMBeY said:
I've prepared special ZIP, it should (in theory) downgrade bootloaders
NOT TESTED YET!!!! IT CAN BRICK YOUR PHONE!!
Instructions:
1. Download and copy ZIP to SD/ExtSD card
2. Check if you have BusyBox in /sbin, if not, copy and paste it from /xbin
3. Reboot into Custom Recovery (CWM/TWRP etc)
4. Install ZIP
5. Reboot
Please report how it goes
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Im tested,and not working for me. Im use kt-sgs4 kernel with mh8 rom, with root, busybox and the system is ok...but the bootloader is nt cool, i cant intall any custom rom. No voice, and cant call. Odin .tar file no working nand flash fail...
I think install with odin mh1 rom, and install philztouch recovery and intall bootloader recovery...its fine?Thanx
Obagleyfreer said:
I just manged to get back to CM and my SElinux status back to permisive from MH8
I deleted a load of bloat from system app(knox is probably what helped) after rooting.
Then flashed official clockworkmod recovery image file using SGS4 Flasher.
Then booted to recovery and formated system (it wasnt mounted!!) cache and data and restored my backup
Im sooooo happy!
Sent from my GT-I9505 whilst taking a s**t
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That info is going to come in handy to some users who bounce back and forth from Stock to CM.
Thankfully, I had not been tempted to do so and still have the old bootloader. Never going back to stock myself.
donalgodon said:
That info is going to come in handy to some users who bounce back and forth from Stock to CM.
Thankfully, I had not been tempted to do so and still have the old bootloader. Never going back to stock myself.
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Hopefully it helps at least a couple of people.
The problem comes when you need to send your phone back to Samsung for warranty purposes.
Even if you have old firmware, reset flash counter etc. I can bet my bottom dollar when it returns from Samsung they would have flashed the new firmware and new bootloader to your device. They are great like that!!

Returning back to stock

I have searched for the answer to this question with no avail. I need to return my S3 back to stock. I have been running clean rom 7 on it with TWRP recovery. As I understand it, I need to use ODIN and flash the image file to my phone. Does it matter which image I flash back? If I flash the latest image, will that prevent the bootloader from being unlocked or take away the ability to flash a custom recovery? I ask this question because I know with the GS4 (VZW) updating past MDK will lock your bootloader permanently. I do not want that to happen!
Also, why are people asking for bootchains for images?
Thanks in advance!
STEyeAndroid said:
I have searched for the answer to this question with no avail. I need to return my S3 back to stock. I have been running clean rom 7 on it with TWRP recovery. As I understand it, I need to use ODIN and flash the image file to my phone. Does it matter which image I flash back? If I flash the latest image, will that prevent the bootloader from being unlocked or take away the ability to flash a custom recovery? I ask this question because I know with the GS4 (VZW) updating past MDK will lock your bootloader permanently. I do not want that to happen!
Also, why are people asking for bootchains for images?
Thanks in advance!
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You can flash the latest MF1 with no problems. The boot chains are no longer needed if use Casual to unlock, root and recovery. All this will change when 4.3 is released. Do not take the update or could be locked out forever since can no longer downgrade. Wait for mods to fix 4.3 update. That being said here are links to MF1 image and Casual. Remove the MF1 tar file from zip and Odin it in PDA. Use Odin 3.0.7. Don't need the other file in zip.
MF1 - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
Casual - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
prdog1 said:
You can flash the latest MF1 with no problems. The boot chains are no longer needed if use Casual to unlock, root and recovery. All this will change when 4.3 is released. Do not take the update or could be locked out forever since can no longer downgrade. Wait for mods to fix 4.3 update. That being said here are links to MF1 image and Casual. Remove the MF1 tar file from zip and Odin it in PDA. Use Odin 3.0.7. Don't need the other file in zip.
MF1 - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
Casual - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
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You are very awesome! Thanks so much for your reponse! :good:
STEyeAndroid said:
You are very awesome! Thanks so much for your reponse! :good:
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I just used those files to restore and reroot a few minutes ago and no problems.

[Q] Odin restore with jellybean files?

Hey all, now with the recent 4.3 update that locked the bootloader, i'm afraid of accidentally updating if i ever have to odin. So i have (ics build) VRALF2 MD5, and a VRALEC.bootchain MD5 files. If i use them to odin back to stock, i would be on an ics build, and i would have to update to at least 4.1 to use the casual root method, but if i do update, i will jump to 4.3 and then get a locked bootloader. Where can i find the jellybean versions to odin with, that can get me out of a soft brick? Thanks
joedajoester said:
Hey all, now with the recent 4.3 update that locked the bootloader, i'm afraid of accidentally updating if i ever have to odin. So i have VRALF2 MD5, and a VRALEC.bootchain MD5 files. If i use them to odin back to stock, i would be on an ics build, and i would have to update to at least 4.1 to use the casual root method, but if i do update, i will jump to 4.3 and then get a locked bootloader. Where can i find the jellybean versions to odin with, that can get me out of a soft brick? Thanks
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Are you already took the OTA update? meaning you're running 4.3 right now? if you do, you can't flash anything else except for stock 4.3 rom and with the option to root your 4.3 (you can not flash back to the older version or any custom rom/kernel) .On 4.3 the bootloader is locked and nothing you can do for now. There's safestrap method to get around the locked bootloader but I don't recommend it for now.
I never took the update, i rooted 4.1.2 and put cm10 on it, and cm11 now. Im just afraid if i ever have to odin i will have to dig deep to find a root method for the old ics build and im not sure if the latest cwm will even work with it. Either way, it just seems like a lot of work, when i could just odin back to jellybean, root, and rom. Thanks for the speedy reply
buhohitr said:
Are you already took the OTA update? meaning you're running 4.3 right now? if you do, you can't flash anything else except for stock 4.3 rom and with the option to root your 4.3 (you can not flash back to the older version or any custom rom/kernel) .On 4.3 the bootloader is locked and nothing you can do for now. There's safestrap method to get around the locked bootloader but I don't recommend it for now.
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joedajoester said:
I never took the update, i rooted 4.1.2 and put cm10 on it, and cm11 now. Im just afraid if i ever have to odin i will have to dig deep to find a root method for the old ics build and im not sure if the latest cwm will even work with it. Either way, it just seems like a lot of work, when i could just odin back to jellybean, root, and rom. Thanks for the speedy reply
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You can just flash a pre-rooted stock 4.1.2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178482
The link seems to be dead. I also have a bootchain file, which sounds like its needed for coming out of a soft brick according to this link It didnt seem like that download would of included that. However, im not sure if it is required.
buhohitr said:
You can just flash a pre-rooted stock 4.1.2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178482
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joedajoester said:
The link seems to be dead. I also have a bootchain file, which sounds like its needed for coming out of a soft brick according to this link It didnt seem like that download would of included that. However, im not sure if it is required.
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wait you're not clear, are you bricked right now??
Link is still good, you can directly download from here http://d-h.st/C2e
I'm sorry for the confusion, i'm not bricked right now, but if i ever am in the future, or something else, i want to be able to odin to a rootable version of touchwiz. Not too long ago, twrp recovery was crashing on me, and i was close to odin flashing back to stock, but instead odin flashed cwm recovery. I'm saying that i need a failsafe, if things go wrong
buhohitr said:
wait you're not clear, are you bricked right now??
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joedajoester said:
I'm sorry for the confusion, i'm not bricked right now, but if i ever am in the future, or something else, i want to be able to odin to a rootable version of touchwiz. Not too long ago, twrp recovery was crashing on me, and i was close to odin flashing back to stock, but instead odin flashed cwm recovery. I'm saying that i need a failsafe, if things go wrong
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OK, got it here is stock full firmware 4.1.2 http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196 just unzip then use Odin to flash back to stock. After that you have to root and unlock bootloader...
Thanks for the link. The zip contains a file called "KIES_HOME_I535VRBMF1_1152558_REV09_user_low_ship.tar.md5" This can be flashed with odin through the pda slot? Sorry for bombarding you with questions, but i want to be confident i have a working solution if i ever need it. The link for unbricking shows to flash the root.66.TAR though the PDA slot, so i just want to make sure. It also says that the bootchains arent required. Also, is it fine that its a .md5 file? Thanks a ton, you have been so helpful.
buhohitr said:
OK, got it here is stock full firmware 4.1.2 http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196 just unzip then use Odin to flash back to stock. After that you have to root and unlock bootloader...
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joedajoester said:
Thanks for the link. The zip contains a file called "KIES_HOME_I535VRBMF1_1152558_REV09_user_low_ship.tar.md5" This can be flashed with odin through the pda slot? Sorry for bombarding you with questions, but i want to be confident i have a working solution if i ever need it. The link for unbricking shows to flash the root.66.TAR though the PDA slot, so i just want to make sure. It also says that the bootchains arent required. Also, is it fine that its a .md5 file? Thanks a ton, you have been so helpful.
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Yes, just open Odin and pick PDA and browse to this file "KIES_HOME_I535VRBMF1_1152558_REV09_user_low_ship.tar.md5" the flash. This is 4.1.2 full factory firmware come with (bootloader,recovery,kernel,rom,radio..everything). Root66 is ICS 4.0 rom modded factory file and not include radio or recovery. In theory to recover you should use a full factory file.(KIES_HOME_I535VRBMF1_1152558_REV09_user_low_ship.tar.md5)
Thanks so much for all your help! Hopefully i wont need to do a odin restore, but if i do, now i'm prepared. Also, this thread could help someone in the future, which is nice. Again, thanks for all your help
buhohitr said:
Yes, just open Odin and pick PDA and browse to this file "KIES_HOME_I535VRBMF1_1152558_REV09_user_low_ship.tar.md5" the flash. This is 4.1.2 full factory firmware come with (bootloader,recovery,kernel,rom,radio..everything). Root66 is ICS 4.0 rom modded factory file and not include radio or recovery. In theory to recover you should use a full factory file.(KIES_HOME_I535VRBMF1_1152558_REV09_user_low_ship.tar.md5)
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kernel question

I tried using saferoot to root my SCH-I535 and it failed due to "kernel is patched". Is there another kernel I can flash? Or could someone send me a link to a viable option please? My kernel is 3.0.31 [email protected]#1. Build is JSS15j.1535VRUCNC1. MY baseband is I535VRUCNC1. Any help is sorely needed and greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
Saferoot doesn't work on the latest OTA NC1. Plus, you cannot install any other kernels due to VZW locking the bootloaders. I have read (I have not tested) that you can ODIN back to ML1 if you want to root, but you cannot ODIN any other prior releases w/o bricking your phone.
Confirmed
RyanThaDude said:
Saferoot doesn't work on the latest OTA NC1. Plus, you cannot install any other kernels due to VZW locking the bootloaders. I have read (I have not tested) that you can ODIN back to ML1 if you want to root, but you cannot ODIN any other prior releases w/o bricking your phone.
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Yes, if you take the new OTA (NC1) you cannot root it now with saferoot or any other current tool.
And yes, you can ODIN back to ML1 without issue and reoot using saferoot (I have done so.) Well, one issue: Your phone will be wiped clean and you must reinstall all your apps. ExtSD card should remain untouched.
Hopefully, new tools will be developed to allow rooting NC1, although the update is really minor and not needed for most people. The big question is whether once KitKat rolls out for the S3, will it be able to be rooted.
The_Buster said:
Yes, if you take the new OTA (NC1) you cannot root it now with saferoot or any other current tool.
And yes, you can ODIN back to ML1 without issue and reoot using saferoot (I have done so.) Well, one issue: Your phone will be wiped clean and you must reinstall all your apps. ExtSD card should remain untouched.
Hopefully, new tools will be developed to allow rooting NC1, although the update is really minor and not needed for most people. The big question is whether once KitKat rolls out for the S3, will it be able to be rooted.
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Rooting before install is easy. Its making one click root applications for post install that can be hard. One way or another KitKat will have root for us locked people.
4.3 Update and Root
I noticed I didn't have OTA Survival Mode checked in SuperSu when I took the OTA. So, after ODINing back to ML1, I thought I'd try again with the Mode checked. This time, I got the update and maintained root.
Question....
The_Buster said:
Yes, if you take the new OTA (NC1) you cannot root it now with saferoot or any other current tool.
And yes, you can ODIN back to ML1 without issue and reoot using saferoot (I have done so.) Well, one issue: Your phone will be wiped clean and you must reinstall all your apps. ExtSD card should remain untouched.
Hopefully, new tools will be developed to allow rooting NC1, although the update is really minor and not needed for most people. The big question is whether once KitKat rolls out for the S3, will it be able to be rooted.
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How do I ODIN back? What does ODIN mean?
I just got my S3 and it has the NC1 update.... if anyone has any info on help rooting please share.
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How do I ODIN back? What does ODIN mean?
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mva1985 said:
I just got my S3 and it has the NC1 update.... if anyone has any info on help rooting please share.
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Only VRUCML1 can be rooted.
Odin flash the VRUCML1 tar file then use Saferoot to gain root access. The VRUCML1 tar file is here.
Here are steps on how to use Odin. It is a Windows only program. Only do the "4.3 with Odin" steps which are in red. This will wipe your entire phone (backup anything on your internal storage) and it will be set to out of the box, VRUCML1 factory settings.
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Only VRUCML1 can be rooted.
Odin flash the VRUCML1 tar file then use Saferoot to gain root access. The VRUCML1 tar file is here.
Here are steps on how to use Odin. It is a Windows only program. Only do the "4.3 with Odin" steps which are in red. This will wipe your entire phone (backup anything on your internal storage) and it will be set to out of the box, VRUCML1 factory settings.
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Thank you!
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"1. Flash Rooting_Tools_For_S5_Lollipop.zip"
Okay, beg pardon for being dense, but what do you mean, 'flash'? How? Should I fire up Odin on the computer? Is it an Android Debugging Bridge method of running a script? Do I need to use Odin anyway, to flash that older kernel first? Perhaps just use my S5 to download and install the zip? Am I making it too hard? I know I must be.
I like to follow instructions, and the 1st one has me scratching my head.
Thanks.
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"1. Flash Rooting_Tools_For_S5_Lollipop.zip"
Okay, beg pardon for being dense, but what do you mean, 'flash'? How? Should I fire up Odin on the computer? Is it an Android Debugging Bridge method of running a script? Do I need to use Odin anyway, to flash that older kernel first? Perhaps just use my S5 to download and install the zip? Am I making it too hard? I know I must be.
I like to follow instructions, and the 1st one has me scratching my head.
Thanks.
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Are you rooted on a lollipop rom
Yes. OptimalROM 5.0 by BigBot96. It's working great.
I am a flash junkie from way back, and I thought I was 'done', what with this complex locked bootloader safestrap business. Is this light at the end of the tunnel really is a train? I'm a wreck for flashing different flavors. The Odin back and forth on kernels has soured my interest in the whole flashing thing.
I'm interested. This sounds like a good workaround.
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Yes. OptimalROM 5.0 by BigBot96. It's working great.
I am a flash junkie from way back, and I thought I was 'done', what with this complex locked bootloader safestrap business. Is this light at the end of the tunnel really is a train? I'm a wreck for flashing different flavors. The Odin back and forth on kernels has soured my interest in the whole flashing thing.
I'm interested. This sounds like a good workaround.
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Just flash the zip with flashfire or safestrap it will install everything you need including flashable kernels and firmwares then follow the direction in the second part in the OP
I'm on boc4 rooted but can't get to safe strap at all. Even though it states it's installed.. Do you know something I missed here? I thought anything lollipop is locked down to where you can't get to safestrap...
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I'm on boc4 rooted but can't get to safe strap at all. Even though it states it's installed.. Do you know something I missed here? I thought anything lollipop is locked down to where you can't get to safestrap...
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Are you flashing the ni2 kernel to get to safestrap?
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@jrkruse I been using this app to boot into SS can I still use this to flash your rom or do I have to install your Lollipop SS? Thanks
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Ok I do still have to install the older kernel. I gotcha thank you sir.
I see a version 2 for flashing root tools. Any major difference?
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I see a version 2 for flashing root tools. Any major difference?
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Verision 2 is a fix for those people that flashed the rooting tools on kitkat rom and screwed up safestrap. But as it turned out flashing the original didnt mess anything up so I felt no need to post it.
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@jrkruse I been using this app to boot into SS can I still use this to flash your rom or do I have to install your Lollipop SS? Thanks
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Your good using that but when you flash my rom it will already have a modified version of that in the safestrap for lolilpop app so no need to install it twice
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Verision 2 is a fix for those people that flashed the rooting tools on kitkat rom and screwed up safestrap. But as it turned out flashing the original didnt mess anything up so I felt no need to post it.
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Gotcha. I just assumed it was an updated version and flashed it. (S5 was on BOC4) and seemingly worked fine. Looked @ both zips, nothing jumped out at me as different. Except md5. Lol
Thank you for responding. You have to be a busy man, and super talented to do all you do with the locked BL. Amazing. Half the ROMs I see have your name. I'd love to see what you could do w/o restrictions.
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Gotcha. I just assumed it was an updated version and flashed it. (S5 was on BOC4) and seemingly worked fine. Looked @ both zips, nothing jumped out at me as different. Except md5. Lol
Thank you for responding. You have to be a busy man, and super talented to do all you do with the locked BL. Amazing. Half the ROMs I see have your name. I'd love to see what you could do w/o restrictions.
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It will work fine on lollipop rom Basically the only difference is the V2 doesnt put the apks in there own folders inside of system/priv-app folder. On kitkat the apk were not in seperate folders and would not read the apps if they were in their own seperate folders. I then figured if you were on kitkat you already would have safestrap installed to be able to flash a zip. So basically I decided to leave the zip as is so the safestrap zip if flashed on kitkat rom would leave the apk's in their own folder causing the system not to read them therefore causing your original safestrap apk to not be overwritten. Basically what im saying is I wasted my time making V2 but if you flashed it you are perfectly fine!
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It will work fine on lollipop rom Basically the only difference is the V2 doesnt put the apks in there own folders inside of system/priv-app folder. On kitkat the apk were not in seperate folders and would not read the apps if they were in their own seperate folders. I then figured if you were on kitkat you already would have safestrap installed to be able to flash a zip. So basically I decided to leave the zip as is so the safestrap zip if flashed on kitkat rom would leave the apk's in their own folder causing the system not to read them therefore causing your original safestrap apk to not be overwritten. Basically what im saying is I wasted my time making V2 but if you flashed it you are perfectly fine!
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OK thanks for your time , @jrkruse if you ever make a Moar for Shamu let me know!
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@jrkruse I am running MOAR ver 6.62 and everytime I try to flash this in SS it keeps saying failed. I checked the md5 and they match. I did install the NI2 Flasher .apk and it works flawlessly. Could the NI2 Flasher .apk be the reason why it fails when I tried to flash this?
Thank you in advance.
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Well I finally got it to flash.
Now my question is, when I am done flashing stuff in SS, do I still have to flash OA8 flashable kernel before I reboot out of SS? I know it says that all this stuff is built in, but I just wanted to be sure. Thanks.
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Sir is anyone working on a new root for OE1?? It seems that it was forced onto my S5 vzw and now I can't root or downgrade. Thank you.
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stajam said:
@jrkruse I am running MOAR ver 6.62 and everytime I try to flash this in SS it keeps saying failed. I checked the md5 and they match. I did install the NI2 Flasher .apk and it works flawlessly. Could the NI2 Flasher .apk be the reason why it fails when I tried to flash this?
Thank you in advance.
EDIT:
Well I finally got it to flash.
Now my question is, when I am done flashing stuff in SS, do I still have to flash OA8 flashable kernel before I reboot out of SS? I know it says that all this stuff is built in, but I just wanted to be sure. Thanks.
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You have to flash the kernel for the ROM you are on (oa8,oc4 or oe1)
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jrv331 said:
You have to flash the kernel for the ROM you are on (oa8,oc4 or oe1)
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Okay, that's what I figured. Thanks!
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gerland said:
Sir is anyone working on a new root for OE1?? It seems that it was forced onto my S5 vzw and now I can't root or downgrade. Thank you.
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What he said! ^^^

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