[Q] How is ram management on custom roms? - Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I originally purchased an S6 on the T-Mobile preorder, got it on March 30th. Used it for about 3 weeks and returned it to T-Mobile, as I couldn't deal with the ram management issues, and the lack of practical multitasking. One thing I didn't do was root, as I didn't want to break knox and possibly disable Samsung Pay. Now that I know Google Pay will have tokenization, Knox is of no concern to me, and I'll be happy to root and flash a custom ROM (eventually, hopefully, AOSP. Not holding my breath).
NOW, with that being said, how is the memory management and multitasking on custom roms? Still waiting for a fix from Samsung, or do we have it working relatively well? I know that I couldn't even use Google Nav and Pandora at the same time without one of them closing, and if it's still an issue, I'll hold off on going back to the S6.
Anyone have any opinions/info for me?

great question, i'm wondering the same thing
quite sick of having my chrome tabs reloading all the time after switching apps

Anyone?

Xtrestolite 1.5 have the fix and work grets!

jah2110 said:
Xtrestolite 1.5 have the fix and work grets!
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Uh, can you expand on that a bit please?

entropism said:
Uh, can you expand on that a bit please?
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Edgar put the dha fix into the rom and now you can open more apps for more time and don't close. In development section you have a specific thread with all this information.

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[Q] Locked Bootloader = No CyanogenMod??

Hello - I am writing to try and understand - is this boot loader locked like that of Note 3 - which on AT&T has not been able to get anything like CyanogenMOD or is this phone's bootloader issue only a time issue as the phone is a recent release?? I am trying to see if the device is worth keeping? Thanks.
badrsj said:
Hello - I am writing to try and understand - is this boot loader locked like that of Note 3 - which on AT&T has not been able to get anything like CyanogenMOD or is this phone's bootloader issue only a time issue as the phone is a recent release?? I am trying to see if the device is worth keeping? Thanks.
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It is very much worth keeping. We have root and now an unlocked bootloader is on the way. Navigate up to the AT&T G3 General forum section and reference the Bootloader Unlock Bounty thread...devs are closing in on a fix now for all G3 variants.
You can donate to the cause to financially if you are able to there as well.
badrsj said:
Hello - I am writing to try and understand - is this boot loader locked like that of Note 3 - which on AT&T has not been able to get anything like CyanogenMOD or is this phone's bootloader issue only a time issue as the phone is a recent release?? I am trying to see if the device is worth keeping? Thanks.
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you know, lg's rom is pretty nice all in all, with the stuff we can change using root you can achieve almost anything you'd want... I don't miss cyan or slim roms and I'm a big fan of both. even if we unlock the bootloader I think I'll stick with stock rom, I've already got everything customized the way I want it, would be nice to have a recovery though for backups
screwyluie said:
you know, lg's rom is pretty nice all in all, with the stuff we can change using root you can achieve almost anything you'd want... I don't miss cyan or slim roms and I'm a big fan of both. even if we unlock the bootloader I think I'll stick with stock rom, I've already got everything customized the way I want it, would be nice to have a recovery though for backups
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Agreed. Root, debloat. The rom is pretty solid, especially with a custom launcher. I get better battery life out of it on any phone i've ever used even with google now on all the time (i used to uninstall it on other phones). I dunno, if the right rom comes along i might give it a shot, but otherwise.. it's a great phone as is (minus the att crap)
That's one thing I couldn't believe. The amount of bloat was incredible. A shortcut to ATT Homepage that is compiled like an app? I mean seriously? I'm surprised LG didn't smack the person who brought them the list of bloat apps to add..
screwyluie said:
you know, lg's rom is pretty nice all in all, with the stuff we can change using root you can achieve almost anything you'd want... I don't miss cyan or slim roms and I'm a big fan of both. even if we unlock the bootloader I think I'll stick with stock rom, I've already got everything customized the way I want it, would be nice to have a recovery though for backups
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Completely agree. I love what they did with the stock Rom. Has a little vanilla feel with the app drawer button and they have subtle touches like the vanilla alarm clock icon. Like it. LG went all out with this device and they nailed save for a few things that can be fixed via software update. The annoying aux cable bug and we definitely need a new radio update. For the most part I get great reception through my day but there are times I drop signal completely and have the searching for network symbol above the signal bars. Changing the network from 9 to 12 didn't help in my case. Ever since I've had greenify hibernate every app I use every day after the set amount of time my battery lasts days on moderate use. I didn't charge it last night and used it at work and watched some YouTube clips and I'm still at 52% battery. This device is amazing. The only thing I miss is being able to make reliable nandroids and having custom kernels.
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Skizzy034 said:
That's one thing I couldn't believe. The amount of bloat was incredible. A shortcut to ATT Homepage that is compiled like an app? I mean seriously? I'm surprised LG didn't smack the person who brought them the list of bloat apps to add..
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Lol yeah att went a little crazy with bloat this time. It's ridiculously bad.
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That's one thing I couldn't believe. The amount of bloat was incredible. A shortcut to ATT Homepage that is compiled like an app? I mean seriously? I'm surprised LG didn't smack the person who brought them the list of bloat apps to add..
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LG doesn't control, nor do they add the apps. You can thank ATT for that 100%
What you can thank LG for is the ability to disable every single one of the bloat apps without root, a lot of times manufactures' roms give the carrier the ability to block the 'disable' option on their apps, requiring root to remove them.
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LG doesn't control, nor do they add the apps. You can thank ATT for that 100%
What you can thank LG for is the ability to disable every single one of the bloat apps without root, a lot of times manufactures' roms give the carrier the ability to block the 'disable' option on their apps, requiring root to remove them.
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LG marketed that the G3's software had a diet, and said the bloat could be uninstalled out of the box. This isn't really true and it certainly doesn't apply to the ATT G3.
4ndroid99 said:
LG marketed that the G3's software had a diet, and said the bloat could be uninstalled out of the box. This isn't really true and it certainly doesn't apply to the ATT G3.
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source?
Enddo said:
source?
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It was one the posts on their fb page. I was under the impression that bloat could be deleted.
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LG marketed that the G3's software had a diet, and said the bloat could be uninstalled out of the box. This isn't really true and it certainly doesn't apply to the ATT G3.
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this is absolutely true, compare their rom to say a Touchwiz rom which is Heavily modified. The LG rom is damn near stock with some minor changes. As for the bloat, you can disable it out of the box. All of it. This is huge, I've never had a phone that lets you disable all the carrier crap without root, there's always a few programs you can't get rid of, not the case with this phone.
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this is absolutely true, compare their rom to say a Touchwiz rom which is Heavily modified. The LG rom is damn near stock with some minor changes. As for the bloat, you can disable it out of the box. All of it. This is huge, I've never had a phone that lets you disable all the carrier crap without root, there's always a few programs you can't get rid of, not the case with this phone.
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Well I was hoping the ATT bloat could be deleted out of the box, but I guess carrier bloat is an exception to the rule.
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Well I was hoping the ATT bloat could be deleted out of the box, but I guess carrier bloat is an exception to the rule.
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It can't be deleted but it can be disabled, which is what matters
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Killing apps too aggressively?

Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?
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Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?
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There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.
Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188
brian85 said:
Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?
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You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1
Just some quick tips:
- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use
this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.
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You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1
Just some quick tips:
- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use
this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.
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Problem is that I did not have this problem on my Note 3(with lollipop 5,0) so why should I have it on the touchwiz "lite" on the S6? same RAM on both devices.
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There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.
Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188
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This issue is discussed in the other thread, but this one is appropriately named. The issue is driving me nuts, but I didn't find anyone else complaining until I saw this thread.
Bloat or no bloat, it's incomprehensible to me how you can't even have three apps running on a phone with 3 GB of ram. My OPO could easily have six or more apps running at the same time.
Well, my galaxy s6 is going back to T-Mobile. LG G4 here I come.
I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.
brian85 said:
I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.
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they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update
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they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update
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I really like the phone too, but I'm constantly down to about 200-400 MB of RAM although I've removed most of the bloat and I'm not running any weird apps that I haven't used on other phones in the past.
Not too keen on rooting cause of all the warranty issues either...sure hope you're right about them fixing it.
You're not supposed to have free RAM...
Android’s operating system has its own native handler for assigning RAM to apps and making sure that all of it is being used in the most optimal way. In fact, Android purposely tries to keep apps loaded into RAM for better performance. RAM is fast, remember? On mobile devices, every bit of speed is critical for a good user experience, so keeping apps in RAM is actually a good thing.
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http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
There definitely seems to be an issue with apps being closed too quickly but I don't think it has anything to do with the free RAM numbers you're looking at.
I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.
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You're not supposed to have free RAM...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
There definitely seems to be an issue with apps being closed too quickly but I don't think it has anything to do with the free RAM numbers you're looking at.
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Thanks, I know this. Doesn't change the fact that my OPO had about 600 MB more free RAM at any given moment and multitasked like a champ.
Hope they'll fix it soon.
Really don`t think it`s the issue with to low RAM, I belive this is a management issue or a bug thats just kills the apps to quickly or even maybe lollipop 5,0,2 issue that samsung missed? I sent samsung a mail about it yesterday so hopefully they will contact me back.
I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.
Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?
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I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.
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Call Samsung customer support. I did for the flash remaining lit, and they weren't even aware of it. We need to be notifying Samsung of these issues, not our carriers.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
made a tip to phone arena about this, hopefully Samsung will get some eyes open so they can fix this.
B.R
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I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.
Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?
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sorry no :\ but made a tip to phone arena about it and they announced it today so lets se what happens
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
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Same problem here. Sammy, please...
now also up on Sammobile site
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
update is comming according to Samsung UK
just got this answer fron Sammy UK.
let`s see what will happen
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just got this answer fron Sammy UK.
let`s see what will happen
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Fingers crossed. Thanks johanbiff
Just a quick link to my S6 edge thread - also about same issue so we can all keep track of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/aggressive-ram-management-t3090492/page1
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now also up on Sammobile site
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
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Also Gizmodo India
http://www.gizmodo.in/indiamodo/RAM...he-Samsung-Galaxy-S6/articleshow/47083669.cms

[Q] [Poll] Did you choose to root/flash your S6?

So the security system KNOX and the mobile payment system Samsung Pay has started the controversial debate about rooting/flashing your new S6/S6 Edge..
While we still are months (years?) away from a fully working system and large merchants adapting the system, it is still a very valuable and kind of cool feature to have on your phone.
But when you're browsing the forums you see custom ROMs and mods that could further power your S6 to unlock it's full potential and with root you can of course modify your Android experience to just the way you want it.
We have also yet to see a release date for other countries than the US and China. I live in Sweden and doubt I will see Samsung Pay working here since the magnetic terminals rarely can be used because of the chip-security VISA and MasterCard require.
The question still resides.. Is it worth tripping KNOX and losing Samsung Pay, which might never even come to your country (or at least not in 1-2 years), for unlocking Androids full power and the S6 full potential?
To flash or not to flash, that is the question...
I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
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I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
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Samsung Pay uses MST technology in addition to NFC, meaning that you can pay with your phone virtually anywhere credit cards are accepted.
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I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
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MST technology
Whaaaat?? How does that work? How will it work with an old-fashioned magnetic card swipe reader? Crazy.
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Whaaaat?? How does that work? How will it work with an old-fashioned magnetic card swipe reader? Crazy.
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It emulates an magnetic field that works exactly as you should swipe your card.
That makes my head spin.
I rooted. I have no desire to pay with my phone.
So do we know 100% that root definitely kills the option for Samsung Pay? Or that with Knox tripped it will negate Samsung Pay? I've read about here and there but I guess I haven't quite seen if someone actually tried to use the pay after root and it didn't work?
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So do we know 100% that root definitely kills the option for Samsung Pay? Or that with Knox tripped it will negate Samsung Pay? I've read about here and there but I guess I haven't quite seen if someone actually tried to use the pay after root and it didn't work?
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According to SamMobile tripping KNOX will disable Samsung Pay.
We've yet to get any official statement though, right?
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According to SamMobile tripping KNOX will disable Samsung Pay.
We've yet to get any official statement though, right?
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I am looking at buying one to replace my wife's S4 and hadn't really read up on it a whole little yet. Thanks for the info I had not looked there. Next time keep the attitude to yourself.
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I am looking at buying one to replace my wife's S4 and hadn't really read up on it a whole little yet. Thanks for the info I had not looked there. Next time keep the attitude to yourself.
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I'm sorry, you must've missunderstood me.. I didn't mean to have any attitude. I was mainly trying to get confirmation if there were any official statement from Samsung since I don't know if there is any..
No problem, guess I took it the wrong way too. It was just how it was written the "though?"
Anyhow, I have rooted (between my wife and I) our last 8+ phones so naturally I am looking to root the S6 when we get one, just wanted to find out for sure if it made things worse. I suppose if I am not going to use Sam Pay then it wouldn't matter. I just would rather not lose options or features. I did see a thread of a DEV that claims to have achieved root without tripping KNOX. Not sure if it will make it's way to us or not.
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No problem, guess I took it the wrong way too. It was just how it was written the "though?"
Anyhow, I have rooted (between my wife and I) our last 8+ phones so naturally I am looking to root the S6 when we get one, just wanted to find out for sure if it made things worse. I suppose if I am not going to use Sam Pay then it wouldn't matter. I just would rather not lose options or features. I did see a thread of a DEV that claims to have achieved root without tripping KNOX. Not sure if it will make it's way to us or not.
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Same here! Always been rooting the phones, when you have the option of complete flexibility with the OS, why not?
Yea, better to have the possibility of the feature, even if one will use it or not, than to lock yourself out directly, hopefully that Dev has found a way and if so it won't be long time before it gets to us.
Also, since installing Nova Launcher Prime I haven't really had the need to root it since the phone is blazing fast and you can you hide away the apps you don't use/want to see in the drawer.

root access to S8 or S8+

does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).
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does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm
yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.
Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader
geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait
The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.
Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.
and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.
hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?
No u cant unfortunately
I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.
Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately
pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))
kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.

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