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....in between flashing new ROMs?
Even in the same ROM family?
Why?
Not having to do this with Incredible ROMs, and was just curious. Thanks for any input.
rfarrah said:
....in between flashing new ROMs?
Even in the same ROM family?
Why?
Not having to do this with Incredible ROMs, and was just curious. Thanks for any input.
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Rom flashing is not perfect so sometimes things dont get overwritten. it has been known to fix some odd issues. Some will say you dont have to and others will say it is the safest way to know if there is an issue with the rom or if it is due to some bit of the old rom that didnt get over written
Flashing back to stock is like erasing a chalkboard before you write on it.
You can try to skip this step and flash one on top of the other, but you could very well run the risk of a bad install with symptoms like force closes, bad/non-existent data connection, etc. Yes, there are people out there who don't flash back to stock and wipe the phone who say they've never had any problems, but that's like shooting dice in my opinion.
It takes less time to use Odin to go to stock, and flash the desired custom ROM than it does if you skip Odin, have a botched install, and have to redo the entire process again.
Only if you have problems.
Hey, i am new to rooting, actually the whole android intact. I decided to get a HTC ONE X after having the iPhone for a while. I have watched some videos on rooting and i think i have all that down with boot loader and stuff. I just have a few questions about other stuff regarding rooting the phone with customer ROM's.....
1) if i have a custom rom, and i get an OTA update, will that brick my phone if i do decide to update it? I know that it will take root off... but will it brick it if i just update without doing anything with custom rom?
2)Do custom roms (the one I'm looking at is the cyanogen mod for HTC ONE X) kill the battery more then normal?
3) How do you go back to stock rom if you no longer want the rom.... is it as easy as just going to the reboot screen and selecting stock rom? is the stock rom already on there or do i have to put it on there?
4) If wanted, how easy is it to un-root phone?
5) and just personal opinion, what is the best jellybean Custom rom out right now for HTC one X?
Thank you all so much!!
1 - You can't OTA update with a custom rom. Anyway, the custom roms (Sense based) are further updates than the AT&T updates.
2 - When I used CM10, it had quite a bit of wakelock but it's dependent on each phone as well. Many have great battery life.
3 - RUU
4 - When you RUU, you relock your bootloader and it brings it back to stock. Only difference is now in the bootloader, it says re-locked, not locked.
5 - CM10 is pretty good so far, but I'm a fan of AOKP.
1. The OTAs are pulled by software on the phone. Custom ROMs don't have this software and don't pull, so no need to worry.
2. Depends. Keep in mind the current JB ROMs are still a work in progress. CM10 does still have wakelocks, but its getting better.
3. Already said above. Just relock your bootloader and RUU.
4. Easy to unroot. Easy to relock. But once you unlock your bootloader your phone will never say LOCKED again. I honestly have never had an issue with it with warranty repair, but please don't be an asshat and flash a ROM for the wrong One X and then complain to AT&T.
5. Personal preference. The great things about custom ROMs is you can try a bunch out and find the one that you like. I used AOKP a while back and liked it. CM10 is pretty cool but I just had it for a few days as they work out the wakelock issues. Also check out some of the ICS ROMs. CleanROM is pretty solid as well and gives great performance. Don't necessarily limit yourself. That's the beauty of it.
On going back to stock rom, you dont necessarily need to use the ruu. After you get your phone rooted, unlocked, and a recovery for flashing your custom roms, then just make sure before you flash your first rom that you (from recovery) select factory reset (will erase all user data such as 3rd party apps and such) then perform a backup, also in recovery. Now,you have a safe stock rooted rom backup. Go flash any of the roms in this forum and at anytime you can always just go restore your stock rom back
For those of you who took the 4.3 ota what is your opinion of the updated ,and did you come from a custom rom.I was thinking of talking official 4.3 just curious to here feedback on it ,I know once I do it bootloader is locked for good .I am on Liquid smooth love it but I miss the Samsung features and having a glitch free phone I know ill get back on the verizon ota, been running custom rom since first week of owning phone think im ready to go back stock as long as official 4.3 is good
=phatreno;49148087]For those of you who took the 4.3 ota what is your opinion of the updated ,and did you come from a custom rom.I was thinking of talking official 4.3 just curious to here feedback on it ,I know once I do it bootloader is locked for good .I am on Liquid smooth love it but I miss the Samsung features and having a glitch free phone I know ill get back on the verizon ota, been running custom rom since first week of owning phone think im ready to go back stock as long as official 4.3 is good[/QUOTE]
Why take the OTA when you can just flash the stock Rom? I personally like it but I've always liked TW roms
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=phatreno;49148087]For those of you who took the 4.3 ota what is your opinion of the updated ,and did you come from a custom rom.I was thinking of talking official 4.3 just curious to here feedback on it ,I know once I do it bootloader is locked for good .I am on Liquid smooth love it but I miss the Samsung features and having a glitch free phone I know ill get back on the verizon ota, been running custom rom since first week of owning phone think im ready to go back stock as long as official 4.3 is good
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Why take the OTA when you can just flash the stock Rom? I personally like it but I've always liked TW roms[/QUOTE
I know that there' one out there you can flash and maintain a unlocked bootloader but reading the thread sounds like there's a lot of issues with it I use my phone for work so need something 100% eliable Liquid is almost there but still have to do battery pulls get f/c's ,I did have another phone so it didn't matter now this is my only phone
let me rephrase that didn't mean take the ota but flash the official 4.3 which would lock boot loader to take the ota I would have to revert to stock then take the ota easier just flashing 4.3
After a long time flashing custom rom and kernel on my wife S3 and always hear complaints about issue, I decided to flash stock 4.3. Now she's happy with her phone, everything is working smoothly and the phone is pretty fast and snappy, battery life is the best. I have to say, 4.3 is a great improvement over 4.1.2. My recommendation is if you like to play around with flashing custom rom and ok with all the bugs hear and there then it would be fine, but if you want a daily driver, stable phone then stock 4.3 is the way to go. While she's on custom rom, many times when we at a party and when she tried to take picture the camera FC, or displayed weird color, the gps acting up, phone lockup needed to pull the battery to reset etc...Again, if you want a stable, good battery life, go with stock 4.3 and with just root.(I need root to install wifi tethering). Now she has a perfect phone and no more complaints.
buhohitr said:
After a long time flashing custom rom and kernel on my wife S3 and always hear complaints about issue, I decided to flash stock 4.3. Now she's happy with her phone, everything is working smoothly and the phone is pretty fast and snappy, battery life is the best. I have to say, 4.3 is a great improvement over 4.1.2. My recommendation is if you like to play around with flashing custom rom and ok with all the bugs hear and there then it would be fine, but if you want a daily driver, stable phone then stock 4.3 is the way to go. While she's on custom rom, many times when we at a party and when she tried to take picture the camera FC, or displayed weird color, the gps acting up, phone lockup needed to pull the battery to reset etc...Again, if you want a stable, good battery life, go with stock 4.3 and with just root.(I need root to install wifi tethering). Now she has a perfect phone and no more complaints.
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that sounds like what I needed to here,did you flash 4.3 or revert to stock and take the ota not sure if there's a difference I already downloaded the stock 4.3
I've had zero issues on the 4.3 rom.
Make a backup and give it a run.
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that sounds like what I needed to here,did you flash 4.3 or revert to stock and take the ota not sure if there's a difference I already downloaded the stock 4.3
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It's depended on what apps you installed on your phone, most of them should be fine with 4.3. When ever I upgrade to a new version, I like a clean install. Do a factory reset (this will wipe all your installed apps and reset your phone back to factory condition, make sure you have a backup of your apps), then let the upgrade run. Once done use saferoot to root.
from crack flasher to stock
i've been a crack flasher since my DX days, having flashed just a couple days after getting my S3. I've been on Hyperdrive, Synergy, AOKP, OSE, stock and various versions of CM to include the best, Mastamoons unofficial.
had to get a replacement phone, and as i was setting it up, the damn thing updated to 4.3 itself.
now... i still get that crackflashing urge, but i will admit, i like having the phone stock. i can make it look like its on any of the other roms, just with minor alterations.
antenna's on the latest is the best i've ever seen, everything works great, and don't see the lag on 4.3 TW as on others.
guess i can live with this for a while, and i do have faith in the DEV community that someone will break the latest, just as in previous versions. But for now, i can live with stock as everything works great!
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It's depended on what apps you installed on your phone, most of them should be fine with 4.3. When ever I upgrade to a new version, I like a clean install. Do a factory reset (this will wipe all your installed apps and reset your phone back to factory condition, make sure you have a backup of your apps), then let the upgrade run. Once done use saferoot to root.
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ok thanks
Please go here for any further...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575661
Hey, sorry for such a noob question, I do lots of reading on here and tried to post within a certain rom, C-Rom Kit-Kat 4.4.2 5/13/14, and it won't allow me since I have never posted anything on XDA. I have the Verizon HTC ONE M8 and it is bootloader unlocked, s-off, and on the stock rom with build number 1.56, with lots of customization but I found a new rom I wanted to try. It is an AOSP rom like mentioned above but I never seemed to find what build number it is on? I know with a SENSE rom you have to be careful of what build number your phone is, whether it is 1.54 before the update or 1.56 after the update.
My question is, when flashing an AOSP/AOKP/CM rom through TWRP, does the build number matter? In all the AOSP roms I never haven't been able to find where the OP states which it is, making me wonder if I need to worry about it or not? I want to flash away from the stock rom but only to an AOSP type rom.. I want to be careful because since we don't have a removable battery, I am worried I will be stuck in bootloop and I am not sure how to get out of it without a battery pull.. (I know holding power and volume up will restart the phone but how would you get back into recovery to restore a backup?)
Also while I am at my first post, do you recommend TWRP, CWM, or Philz touch recovery? I would like to stick to one recovery throughout the tenure of the rooted ONE M8, makes keeping backups
Thanks for the help and I greatly appreciate it! And I apologize again for such a noob question..
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Hey, sorry for such a noob question, I do lots of reading on here and tried to post within a certain rom, C-Rom Kit-Kat 4.4.2 5/13/14, and it won't allow me since I have never posted anything on XDA. I have the Verizon HTC ONE M8 and it is bootloader unlocked, s-off, and on the stock rom with build number 1.56, with lots of customization but I found a new rom I wanted to try. It is an AOSP rom like mentioned above but I never seemed to find what build number it is on? I know with a SENSE rom you have to be careful of what build number your phone is, whether it is 1.54 before the update or 1.56 after the update.
My question is, when flashing an AOSP/AOKP/CM rom through TWRP, does the build number matter? In all the AOSP roms I never haven't been able to find where the OP states which it is, making me wonder if I need to worry about it or not? I want to flash away from the stock rom but only to an AOSP type rom.. I want to be careful because since we don't have a removable battery, I am worried I will be stuck in bootloop and I am not sure how to get out of it without a battery pull.. (I know holding power and volume up will restart the phone but how would you get back into recovery to restore a backup?)
Also while I am at my first post, do you recommend TWRP, CWM, or Philz touch recovery? I would like to stick to one recovery throughout the tenure of the rooted ONE M8, makes keeping backups
Thanks for the help and I greatly appreciate it! And I apologize again for such a noob question..
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Correct me if im wrong, but the sense build is just telling what that ROM is based on. Once your S-OFF, you can flash them as you please. I know the bootloader version was what would cause bricks in the past (flashing a 4.2.2 rom in a 4.3 bootloader) but i havent seen anything like that for the M8 yet.
Vol DOwn and power will get you to hboot which will let you get to recovery. I use CWM but theyre all comparable, just personal preference.
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Correct me if im wrong, but the sense build is just telling what that ROM is based on. Once your S-OFF, you can flash them as you please. I know the bootloader version was what would cause bricks in the past (flashing a 4.2.2 rom in a 4.3 bootloader) but i havent seen anything like that for the M8 yet.
Vol DOwn and power will get you to hboot which will let you get to recovery. I use CWM but theyre all comparable, just personal preference.
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Thanks for the reply! I can't wait to flash this new AOSP rom so I can remove all the bloatware put on by Verizon and Sense.. Just want to vierfy, so if the build number no longer matters since I am s-off, you're saying I can flash the ARHD rom on my phone even though it states the build number 1.54 and I have 1.56? Because I would also love to have a stock sense rom with lots of optimizations and tweaks for performance with less bloatware.
Thanks again
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Thanks for the reply! I can't wait to flash this new AOSP rom so I can remove all the bloatware put on by Verizon and Sense.. Just want to vierfy, so if the build number no longer matters since I am s-off, you're saying I can flash the ARHD rom on my phone even though it states the build number 1.54 and I have 1.56? Because I would also love to have a stock sense rom with lots of optimizations and tweaks for performance with less bloatware.
Thanks again
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I just read that if you have the newest 1.55.6.. firmware and baseband and try to flash roms with the older baseband (1.54) then you might run into problems with losing root and and other issues..
Can someone please verify this? Currently on stock rom, rooted, s off, bootloader unlocked, with baseband 1.55.6.. Looking into flashing either AOSP rom or Sense rom but does it matter if its based on 1.54 or the newest 1.56?
Thanks, the help is greatly appreciated
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I just read that if you have the newest 1.55.6.. firmware and baseband and try to flash roms with the older baseband (1.54) then you might run into problems with losing root and and other issues..
Can someone please verify this? Currently on stock rom, rooted, s off, bootloader unlocked, with baseband 1.55.6.. Looking into flashing either AOSP rom or Sense rom but does it matter if its based on 1.54 or the newest 1.56?
Thanks, the help is greatly appreciated
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you're just gonna end up with whatever baseband you flash as the latest baseband. where are you seeing people lose root bc of flashing a different baseband?
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you're just gonna end up with whatever baseband you flash as the latest baseband. where are you seeing people lose root bc of flashing a different baseband?
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It was in a different thread, can't recall which.. I have been doing way too much reading I think it was in one last few pages of the venom rom thread.. I'll just wait for Venom and Skyfall to update their baseband to the latest 1.56 build. No worries. Thanks.
Updated to the latest VZW firmware, and have had no issues using the multi-variant roms, which use the non-Verizon versions. My radio base still reflects the updated version (0321). On Viper right now with no issues, waiting for AOKP. Been using 2.7.0.2 TWRP with no problems. If you have a concern about flashing any ROM (and/or gapps if you are trying an AOSP ROM), just make sure you make a backup in recovery before anything else, and if the new stuff doesn't work well or borks your device, just learn how to get back into recovery and restore your backup. Read first, try second.
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Updated to the latest VZW firmware, and have had no issues using the multi-variant roms, which use the non-Verizon versions. My radio base still reflects the updated version (0321). On Viper right now with no issues, waiting for AOKP. Been using 2.7.0.2 TWRP with no problems. If you have a concern about flashing any ROM (and/or gapps if you are trying an AOSP ROM), just make sure you make a backup in recovery before anything else, and if the new stuff doesn't work well or borks your device, just learn how to get back into recovery and restore your backup. Read first, try second.
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Okay thanks for the help. I always make sure to read first and create a backup, I've made the mistake once and took a long process to get it solved and won't let that happen again that's for sure! Thanks for the response, I just flashed Skyfall 2.5 and it is amazing!
Hey guys, I just flashed the CM13 nightly from stock 5.0 and now I'm showing no sim card. I saw a couple threads saying that newer twrp builds have issues with flashing radios, so I reverted to twrp 2.8.6 and did a clean flash, with no love. Tried flashing the radio zip, no love. Tried flashing the 3 most recent radios through fastboot, no love.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
Are you flashing both the bootloader and radio? If this doesn't work, I suggest flashing the latest stock MM to make sure the phone is working, then flash CM13.
Good call, trying it now
okay, flashed to stock 6.0.1, worked like a champ, flashed back to cm, now it connects to the network, but drops to no service after a second or two. Progress! Now that I know that you have to flash bootloader and radio, i'll try some different combos and see if i can get something to work. If nothing else, i can always go back to stock MM
Thanks!
Have you tried CM13 with a custom kernel? This may solve the issue.
You need to do alot of reading, no insult intended. Don't run b4 you can walk. If you didn't know to flash the radio and bootloader you need to learn alot. Luckily it's a bullet proof phone. Nightlies are not stable and not for daily drivers. They are works in progress and buggy as a result. Not for noobies, IMHO
The OP did flash different radios. It is not always necessary to flash a modem and bootloader to have a working phone.