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Hello,
Ever since the latest update from HTC to Desire S I have been thinking about unlocking, rooting and flashing custom a ROM into my Desire S. I have been reading in this forum to get information if its possible after the last update and also if it would be worth it. It would seem that the easiest way is to unlock the bootloader with HTCdev.com and then continue with the backup and flashing of a new ROM. Can anyone confirm this method?
I've of course heard the arguments that the custom ROMs use less battery and are more stable but when I read through the forum I always manage to find people having problems with connectivity and battery life, even in the latest CyanogenMod ROMs. This makes me a bit hesitant to make the step into a life of custom ROMs since I dont want to get there and realising that my original phone worked better. So can someone confirm that they custom ROMs actually are better in any of the following critera:
- Stability
- Speed
- Battery efficiency
Secondly I would like some tips about good ROMs for the Desire S. Of what I've managed to find out CynaogenMod seems like a good choice. MIUI seems to look to much like iOS for my taste. And I'm not sure that I want or need a Sense ROM, I am currently having a hard time figuring out why sense is something I should use. How stable are the latest Sense 3.5 ROMs vs. CynaogenMod?
I will be very grateful for any thoughts and tips, especially if you are a noob like me. I have only ever jailbroken an iPhone 3G and that process was extremely easy and seems to differ quite a bit from unlocking, rooting and flashing an Android phone.
Thanks,
Andreas
edit: Is there any big difference between the nightly build and the "stable" build of CynaogenMod?
thebiffman said:
Hello,
Ever since the latest update from HTC to Desire S I have been thinking about unlocking, rooting and flashing custom a ROM into my Desire S. I have been reading in this forum to get information if its possible after the last update and also if it would be worth it. It would seem that the easiest way is to unlock the bootloader with HTCdev.com and then continue with the backup and flashing of a new ROM. Can anyone confirm this method?
I've of course heard the arguments that the custom ROMs use less battery and are more stable but when I read through the forum I always manage to find people having problems with connectivity and battery life, even in the latest CyanogenMod ROMs. This makes me a bit hesitant to make the step into a life of custom ROMs since I dont want to get there and realising that my original phone worked better. So can someone confirm that they custom ROMs actually are better in any of the following critera:
- Stability
- Speed
- Battery efficiency
Secondly I would like some tips about good ROMs for the Desire S. Of what I've managed to find out CynaogenMod seems like a good choice. MIUI seems to look to much like iOS for my taste. And I'm not sure that I want or need a Sense ROM, I am currently having a hard time figuring out why sense is something I should use. How stable are the latest Sense 3.5 ROMs vs. CynaogenMod?
I will be very grateful for any thoughts and tips, especially if you are a noob like me. I have only ever jailbroken an iPhone 3G and that process was extremely easy and seems to differ quite a bit from unlocking, rooting and flashing an Android phone.
Thanks,
Andreas
edit: Is there any big difference between the nightly build and the "stable" build of CynaogenMod?
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The best advice I can give you is, try it yourself
After unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, you can backup your current rom, to revert back to it whenever you want.
Most (if not even all) custom roms are faster and have a lighter battery consumption then the stock. The stability depends on how "fresh" a rom is. But all 3 creteria are not carved in stone, battery drain is often deppending on which user you are. As poweruser you won't see much difference, cause the battery cosumption advantage is at idle.
Stability is in most common more or less only depending on the rom, but if you use root apps in beta or alpha state there also can be freezes or reboots.
When it comes to speed, the question is, do you want to overclock it or maybe underclock,...
You see there are many possibilities^^
I personaly like cyanogen most, it's fast, stable and has no bloat, but it's not as eyecandy as sense and the standard apps are unfortunatly not as handy as the sense ones, but there are many replacments at the market^^
The difference between Stable and nightly is that the stable release is tested, the nightly rolls out almost every day and is build by an bot. They are released after building it, the tests for them are made by people like me who want to have the latest source with latest features^^
Regards
EDIT:
Maybe this [GUIDE] Complete tutorial for beginners... and this [GUIDE] Maximum Battery - Maximizing your battery life with CM7 ROM could be interesting for you, also take a look at the [INDEX][02 NOV 11] ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/RADIOS/TWEAKS/GUIDES/etc thread.
Have to agree with Tectas there... there is no perfect ROM. If there was, everybody would be using the same ROM and there wouldn't be so many different ROMs out there. Your personal opinion about a ROM will bias you towards it eventually, but to get to that stage you have to try out a couple of different platforms to allow you to make a mental picture of what you want in a ROM and which ROMs give you that...
If you want suggestions, then you should try out at least 5 categories of ROMs:
1. AOSP : Stock gingerbread. Vanilla UI. No bells and whistles, just the OS the way google built it.
2. CyanogenMod. No introductions required here. Google is your friend. (And YouTube)
3. MIUI (its looks very different from both the other builds, but you can skin it to death and it has a pretty big fan community behind it). Minus all the bloatware, fast and good battery life...and possibly the best stock music player of the lot - except maybe the Sense 3.5 player with beats audio(untouched).
Again, personal tastes - apples and oranges.
4. Sense 3 Official ported ROMs : Most popular ones currently are by Lowveld and Proxuser, tweaked to perfection. Stock pre-rooted ROMs are also available, but then there's nothing custom about them. Excellent lockscreen, beautiful animations and transitions, smooth UI and groundbreaking social network integration throughout the OS. The most functional, bug free and battery friendly one is Hyperion. (personal opinion). Added bonus is that the customer support is awesome!! (general opinion)
5. Sense 3.5 Official ported ROMs : The latest addition to our phone, skimmed off the newer HTC devices like the Sensation XL (aka Runnymede) and Bliss. These are the best looking (subjective) and have amazing functionality and built in widgets. The most notable here, with absolutely no issues at all is the Endymion ROM, by lowveld. Proxuser also has a Runny port for the Desire S, but there are unresolved issues on that one. Prox is a great developer and i'm sure he'll come around to solving them soon.
Why you would buy a HTC phone if you don't want Sense is something that completely eludes my tiny brain. But for those that want a non-sense ROM (has a ring to it, doesn't it) there's AOSP, and MIUI, Cyanogen. In the Sense corner, are the Official HTC ROM ports, both Sense 3 and 3.5.
You'll have to try them out on your own to see what tickles you in the right way...
DISCLAIMER: I am human. I have opinions. They may be wrong.
I have answered this question at length for the benefit of those looking for opinions, and speaking the universal truth is beyond my capabilities. So please don't be offended by any comments about any ROMs above. In their own little way, each is a little better than the other. It's called choice. We all have it... (Well, at least the ROOTED ones!! )
EDIT: Info corrected. Thanks to Tectas.
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Why you would buy a HTC phone if you don't want Sense is something that completely eludes my tiny brain. But for those that want a non-sense ROM (has a ring to it, doesn't it) there's AOSP, and MIUI. In the Sense corner, are CyanogenMod, and the Official HTC ROM ports, both Sense 3 and 3.5.
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Sry, but cyanogen got nothing to do with sense, it's pure aosp
And why someone uses it, cause it's damn fast and the first official place to get updates or are there any sense roms with gingerbread 2.3.7 ?
And you can also set the hell out of it.
Ah and btw miui is based on cyanogen
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
Tectas said:
Sry, but cyanogen got nothing to do with sense, it's pure aosp
And why someone uses it, cause it's damn fast and the first official place to get updates or are there any sense roms with gingerbread 2.3.7 ?
And you can also set the hell out of it.
Ah and btw miui is based on cyanogen
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
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Thank you Tectas. Post edited.
Like i said. Opinions... i could be wrong.
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Why you would buy a HTC phone if you don't want Sense is something that completely eludes my tiny brain. But for those that want a non-sense ROM (has a ring to it, doesn't it) there's AOSP, and MIUI, Cyanogen. In the Sense corner, are the Official HTC ROM ports, both Sense 3 and 3.5.
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Because HTC have the best build quality and they're damn sexy
Thanks all for the answers. I have now tried to flash a custom ROM, the stable version of CynaogenMod to be more precise.
I say "tried" since it didnt work. I managed to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com. I also managed to install Clockworkmod and root the phone. And made a backup. And it all worked. But when I installed the ROM I got stuck on the HTC logo. So I restored the backup. And it worked.
So Im happy that the phone works but Im irritated that I couldn't install the ROM. I read something about HTCDev not unlocking kernel, only system partition, can that be the case? I will just make a list of all the steps I have taken and maybe someone can help me figure out what I did wrong =)
1. Unlock bootloader with HTCDev. It says unlocked. I still have HBOOT 2.00.0002. Is that a problem?
2. Used fastboot to install ClockworkMod. Worked great.
3. Used ClockworkMod recovery to install SuperUser I believe its called. The icon showed up in the apps drawer.
4. Used ClockworkMod "install zip from sd card" to install the CynaogenMod zip. Like described on CynMods wiki. No error that I remember.
5. Reboot and stuck on HTC logo. Does not show up when using "adb devices" and charging light does not light up when connecting the phone to the charger.
6. Press and hold Volume up + Volume Down + Power to reboot/shutdown phone and pulled battery when it went black.
7. Power down + Power to boot into recovery. Restore backup.
8. Rooted again since backup was taken before root. Superuser is back in the app drawer.
9. Wut should I dooo? =)
Thanks for any help. Its hard to find the right answers sometimes even using google and forums search.
edit: HTC seems to make pretty solid and affordable phones. With a UI thats at least okey. Thats why I bought it =) But Im a tech guy and likes to try new things (and also hates that skins does not work on latest Desire S update) so now Im venturing into the dark lands of custom ROMs... =))
When toy flash a new ROM you have to wipe data and cache. Especially when the ROM is as different as the cyanogen from the previous one
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
I have wiped Data and Cache. I have not touched the "dalvik cache" or whatever it is called.
This is the text I followed:
"Select the option to Wipe data/factory reset.
Then select the option to Wipe cache partition.
Select Install zip from sdcard.
Select Choose zip from sdcard.
Select the CyanogenMod update.zip."
It would seem that the HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary version... Seems a couple of other guys have had the same problem.
Dalvik is the virtual machine where the Android apps run in.
Ok, damn. Sry I have no experience with the the htcdev unlocking procedure, I used xtc-clip, cause when I got mine there even were no possibility to unlock with revolutionary^^ Maybe try revolutionary or a custom sense ROM, but without the advantage of a custom kernel your experience could be the half.
Edit: I'm just wondering, cause only system can't be true, recovery has also it own partition.
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
The revolutionary method is not viable for me since I have HBOOT 2.<something> from the latest Desire S update. I tried a method from another trhead about EVO that was supposed to make flashing work after unlocking with HTCDev but with the same result: just showing the HTC logo. I am now restoring my backup again.
And I dont really know if I should clear dalvik cache since the guides dont mention that.
The tip I tried was in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17219728&postcount=292
You can downgrade your hboot to use revolutionary, it works with htcdev unlocked, the thread is also somewhere here.
You can try to wipe Dalvik cache, but a cache wipe should also include that.
Edit: The downgrade guide is at the index thread i linked before
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
Tectas said:
You can downgrade your hboot to use revolutionary, it works with htcdev unlocked, the thread is also somewhere here.
You can try to wipe Dalvik cache, but a cache wipe should also include that.
Edit: The downgrade guide is at the index thread i linked before
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
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May have to try that out, wouldn't feel right to give up this fast. Have a good backup ready Found the thread. Will check it out.
Thanks =)
edit: For anyone finding this thread with similar problems, the following thread is trying to figure it out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330400&page=3
from what i read on the forum it seems that those with htc-dev unlock are having problems with flashing custom roms.
THIS might help
HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary ?
I have wiped Data and Cache. I have not touched the "dalvik cache" or whatever it is called.
This is the text I followed:
"Select the option to Wipe data/factory reset.
Then select the option to Wipe cache partition.
Select Install zip from sdcard.
Select Choose zip from sdcard.
Select the CyanogenMod update.zip."
It would seem that the HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary version... Seems a couple of other guys have had the same problem.
Your Device Still S-On and you have to Get S-Off Procedure because HTCDev.com just unlock boot loader i believe
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Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
i hope this helps You
Hi,
I just sent my One S to Vodafone because of the chipping issue (it wasn't very much but if they change it it would be nice) and I expect to get a new flashed phone back from them.
At the moment I have (or more had) the Virtuos 1.4.0 Rom installed because I kinda like the Sense look&feel more than the AOSP way but I wanted to have the 3-dot menu mod.
As the Mod is now available for odexed 1.78 ROMs and the Virtuos ROM isn't updated I'm thinking about keeping the stock ROM, clean it in parts with the ROM Cleaner and then apply the Mod (and maybe some other also) to still get OTA Updates.
My Question now is: What does the phone need to get the OTA Updates?
Somewhere I read that it would need the default recovery, is this true? and what else does it need? I want to have CWM to make nandroids etc. - would it be necessary to unlock the bootloader, flash CWM and reflash the default recovery if there are OTAs?
Also I'm thinking about changing the phone from a branded Vodafone one to the default HTC Eu version like this. Does this make it possible to receive OTA from HTC after flashing an RUU and what do I have to consider?
With an official ruu (eg. EU) you should always get updates. Although devs update moreoften.
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Eumaniac said:
With an official ruu (eg. EU) you should always get updates. Although devs update moreoften.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
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Thank you for the answer!
But what can you modify and still get OTA Updates? I'm thinking as said about if the CWM as Recovery etc. affects the "OTA-Ability"
You need stock recovery, Stock ROM, All the stock bloatware. you may even need re locked bootloader.
its easier to run an RUU or wait for ROM devs to include the update into the ROM
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You need stock recovery, Stock ROM, All the stock bloatware. you may even need re locked bootloader.
its easier to run an RUU or wait for ROM devs to include the update into the ROM
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Okay, so no chance to modify it a little bit without affecting the OTA ability
I have a nandroid of the default ROM so then I think I should be able to make an OTA by restoring the nandroid, flashing the signed stock recovery and then give it a try?! - As said the Phone is brandet so flashing a RUU would be a little bit more riskier
Mh... I'll just try it when the net OTA is there
My Problem now just is that the Virtuos ROM isn't up to date and every other ROM doesn't fit my needs
The MoDaCo is very "*****y" (doesn't want to boot sometimes) and misses the "Facebook for HTC Sense" and "Twitter for HTC Sense" apps...
Oh and if somebody is interested:
I got my phone changed without any discussion from Vodafone. They just sent me a new one and the delivery boy took my old back to Vodafone.
you could certainly try the Nandroid way ! lots have people have successfully done it this way
Hello everyone,
What exactly does Clean Rom do? How is it different from what comes with the phone stock? Will Clean Rom mess with the updates that are pushed to our phones? Any big differences between layout?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just not familiar with modifying my phone.
Must read more. Spend as much time as you can reading in the dev section. Clean ROM removes all of the ATT bloat and adds functionality like the FM radio and remapping the 3 dot menu button that takes up screen real-estate to the recent apps softkey. The recent apps can be accessed by holding down the home button, like we're familiar with. It also has performance and battery tweaks (says so in the changelog, haven't been using it long enough to notice). I flashed it the day before yesterday and I'm liking it.
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Clean Rom doesn't use profane language, think of it as the Will Smith of Roms...
Sent from my HOX running WCX
Did you bother to go to the Development forum, and read the CleanROM threads? They very well describe the features of each version of CleanROM.
You don't ever want to install an OTA update once on a custom ROM. It won't be compatible. Either it won't install, or it will remove root, or it will totally bork the system. The devs typically keep their ROM updated to the newest firmware base, and often long before the OTAs go out. So there is virtually never a benefit to updating via OTA (even if it did work).
Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
To the OP, if you want to flash custom, just do it. Spend a few days on Clean, try out Smokin's ROM, too. Just find something you like. Worst that can happen is you RUU back to stock.
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SoberGuy said:
Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
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Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.
redpoint73 said:
Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.
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I don't think att can see your on a custom ROM, it has to do with if the developer is able to include that ability or not.
Thank you for the replies!
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone? Any disadvantages of using Clean Rom?
I'm just curious about how it works because I tried jailbreaking my iPhone and that made it very crash prone. It's a bad example but it's the reason why I never tried using custom software again but I'm interested in giving this a try. I only get about 2 hours screen time and about 12 hours of screen off time for my phone to die.
I did the HTC battery test and my phone went down to 92% so I'm pretty sure it's not the battery that's wrong with the phone.
RPTheLefty said:
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone?
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It appears you need to do more reading to get a better understanding or root, ROMs, etc.
Root is just a change of permissions on your phone. It allows the user and apps access to system files that are normally restricted. Nothing more, nothing less.
Clean ROM (or installation of any custom ROM) is a total replacement of the firmware or operating system of the phone (also called a "ROM"). Clean ROM in particular is mostly based on the latest stock firmware version, but cleaned up to remove bloat, optimizations to make it faster and smoother, and some cool added features. There are 3 different versions of CleanROM. Just read the threads for each version to learn the differences.
I don't really keep up with iPhone stuff. But my understanding is that jailbreaking adds functionality, but makes the system less stable.
Whether a custom ROM on Android makes the phone more or less stable depends on the ROM. Some are ported from other phones, to give new UI look or functions, but can be a bit buggy at first. But any good ROM will be stable once it reaches "maturity" and the bugs are worked out. They can be very stable, and even more stable and smoother than the stock ROM. Which is one of the points of running a custom ROM.
CleanROM in particular is based on stock firmware, just cleaned up. So its very stable. Just as stable as stock, a bit smoother in some places, and with some awesome added features. Any disadvantages? Not really. But you need to unlock the bootloader to install any custom ROM, which voids the warranty. nd flashing anything to the phone has the risk of damage if you don't follow the instructions properly. Thats the only downsides I can think of (for any custom ROM, not just for CleanROM).
Redpoint had an excellent summary.
If you're looking for battery life improvement, there are significant advantages to a custom ROM. Some will allow you to adjust the clock rate for the processors. So you can turn the up a bit (overclock) to get incredible performance, or you can turn them down a bit (underclock) to get better battery life.
If that's your main goal, I personally suggest Sick Sense from Smokingl337. He has incorporated this into his ROM, and the reports I've seen have been positive. I had used his ROM before, and I did like it. The day I flashed CleanROM due to a minor bug, Smokinl337 updated his ROM to fix that bug. Figures! But I'll be going back to Sick Sense pretty soon, I'm sure.
Hopefully you can find something that works for you.
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Different kernel or different radio may also help battery life.
But you need to root, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader to do any of these things (including flashing custom ROMs). So head over to Development and start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There is also a clean rom developers edition that takes out most of the HTC sense... there is the cm9 alpha 4 rom that seems very stable...
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OP, I was in your shoes last week. New to android/roms etc. I rooted, unlocked the bootloader and flashed Clean Rom. Just follow the instructions in the associated threads and you'll be fine.
Hi,
i have seen many people got problem after installing a new firmware or Rom.
Even though the next update might fix the error, but it feels annoying right?
So do you prefer to stay on stock rom or update if there is a new update?(not custom rom, official one.)
I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
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cascabel said:
I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
Sent from my rooted tomato using xda app
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Thank you
But i afraid if i update and have a problem, and have to change back to previous rom it might affect my warranty, since i still have my phone's warranty i will not root and install custom rom, i afraid it might be affected even though it can still back to stock rom.
I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back
I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.
im abcd said:
I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back
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I did install a custom rom before to my previous rom and ever heard about getting warranty back by reinstall to stock rom, but i didn't have a chance to do it, so i am not really sure.
maya79 said:
I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.
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I had a LG before, and did try some custom rom. It was not so complicated.
But maybe other phone procedure might be a little different.
I've never left any of my Android phones alone ever. When I got my Motorola Droid (my first android OS phone) I rooted it a few hours after activation, a new ROM a few hours later while at work then put it all back to stock and got it replaced with a HTC Droid Incredible with the 30 day swap thing VZW does.
Flashing a custom ROM or staying stock is the whole reason XDA-Developers exists. Stock firmware are solid builds, but they are also very, very limited in what they allow you to do. I say allow because that is exactly what your carrier/manufacturer is doing with their firmware. With a custom ROM, you open the door to so many more possibilities, (ie tethering, mobile hotspot, Superuser access apps,...)
Now whether to stay on a stock FW or go custom, that is going to be up to you and what you want to get out of your device. My wife and I each have a phone and a tablet. All are Rooted. My Phone (Samsung Vibrant) is running a custom ROM by me, her phone (Motorola XT720) is running a custom ROM, her tablet (Nook Color) is running CyanogenMod 7.2, but my tablet (Asus Transformer) is running stock ROM but custom kernel.
Personally, I do not like Touchwiz from Samsung or Motoblur from Motorola, hate the bloat that both manufacturers put in there that I do not use. I also bought my wife a tablet that was Barnes&Noble branded android based FW, but I completley scrubbed it off and put a custom ROM on there for her. So now she has a full on tablet instead of a simple reader. See where I am going with this?
My tablet is fast, has all I need on it and since I am considered a power-user, I tinker with it but at this point I am satisfied with it as stock. Now, that is not to say that I have not altered it. I put a custom kernel on it and frozen some of the bloat that Asus provided. It came out with Honeycomb and then updated to ICS. Since I have had it on HC, it has seen 6 FW updates and every one of the ICS ROMs were terrible and left most users with a useless piece of machinery. Myself, I was able to keep it from de-evolving into that and have been happy with it ever since.
Hopefully this shows you that there are plenty of options for why to use a custom ROM but also to stick to stock firmware. It really just depends on you and what you want. Flashing is easy. Just read the OPs, search and read some more and above all, learn to make a Nandroid Backup.
Personally, I prefer to stay as close as possible to AOSP, with custom ROMs like Cyanogen. You don´t feel bounded by the locks imposed by the manufacturers or, even worse, the carriers.
In my experience, they are not as stable as stock ROMs (currently, I´m having some random reboots with cyanogen 9 in my Galaxy Note) so, if you don´t feel adventurous, stay stock.
Regards,
I think i'm getting overwhelmed with all the reading I'm doing and need a little help clear out the confusion in my brain
I'm rooted
I have SUPER CID
I have S-OFF
Custom Recovery (TWRP)
On a custom ROM (chameleon OS)
Never updated to JB OTA
Does my phone need to update to JB before I begin to flash any other Custom ROM? I know these roms provide Android 4.1/4.2+ but does my phone need the OFFICIAL JB update for it to work good? I see a lot of people installing the stock RUU and getting the update - I guess my main question is - is it necessary to downgrade back to stock, update, re-root,unlock, install new ROM again with my phone now having JB thru OTA?
If so - what are the PROS of doing this?
If not - is my phone going to be okay installing ROMs with my phone never being updated.
Thanks!
Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, because you're wiping cache and data the phone is a blank slate. You could go back to Cupcake or skip forward to Jelly Bean 4.3... If you managed to break into Google Inc and get the data for that.
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Normaly no.
But I've seen situations with previous devices that a certain min hboot/firmware is required.
Like if your firmware is gb any jb/ics Rom might not work. just an example!!
Just look what base the Rom is made from. Test if it works. If not update you're firmware to min required or same as base of rom. Test it again.
Always check op of rom. Or ask the dev.
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since you're s off, any ROM will work.
Real187, on some other HTC devices (eg.Flyer), you had to match your hboot to the ROM, but so far for the One S, this hasn't mattered (for the average user).
The only "firmware" partitions you might consider messing with is the radio, but that won't affect if the ROM boots.
to answer your question, the pros of ota are none to negligible. No ones sure if the other partitions it updates are beneficial.
Thx for the replies! I was worried about this as I see a lot of people trying to downgrade and bricking their phones while doing the process.