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[Q] ICS Rom recommendations.

Hi
Bored of waiting for HTC to get the update out to me, so I've s-off'ed, installed Clockwork recovery. Also rooted it.
What I would like is an ICS rom that works. It must be fast, so JIT enabled (there is at least one where JIT doesn't work), I am not bothered one way or the other about sense. It doesn't seem to make much difference these days, there are apps that do everything it does. I use the camera, photos and film, wifi, phone, bluetooth, 3g, market, SD card, so all those things have to work. I'm a relative noob when it comes to installing roms, so something simple to install would be great
Can anyone suggest roms that meet those requirements, it's hard to tell from a 100+ page post on the forums here which bits do and don't work without spending hours trawling through them all.
Thanks
Endolf

I'm using Insert Coin and would recommend it as a first ICS rom. It uses aroma installer so you have your choice of several different options during install and won't need to flash anything extra other than the rom. I'd stay away from sense 4 roms as they still aren't perfected yet.
I'm assuming you've read the firmware update thread and that you know you need the newest firmware before trying to flash an ICS rom?

Are you looking for aosp or sense?
ICSensation 4G

Hi, didn't know I needed a firmware update, I'll have a hunt for the thread, thanks.
Endolf

Hi
Not fussed between AOSP or Sense, as long as it all works, everything sense can do can be got elsewhere.
Thanks
Endolf

I've been using HyperNonsense for about 2 weeks now and I absolutely love it. It's smooth, fast, and stable. And it's very lean. It's whole purpose is to be not much more than an operating system ready for you to customize it with the apps you want. Just about everything is removed from it (SMS, camera, calculator, etc) so you can put only the things you want on it later. This sounds like ti's up your alley. It's technically Sense, but there's no sense elements left in the UI.
Before that I was using Android Revolution HD. It's also very stable. You have the option of running it with or without Sense. (There's an extraction flashable zip that pulls most of the Sense components out of the ROM after you install it). This one comes a little more 'fully loaded' and is basically the stock ICS release with several tweaks to the code.
To use either of these ROM's properly though you need to ditch ClockworkMod Recovery and switch to 4EXT. (It's downlaodable from the market and will flash itself as your new recovery image. You won't need to push anything with ADB or anything from your computer) 4EXT allows you to make choices during the installations of ROMs. Many of the new ROMS require that.

I have been very happy with the new ARHD 6.6.3 version and using ROM Cleaner to get rid of the bloatware up front.

[Q] Most Stable ROM for S-ON Doubleshot?

Okay, I have gotten my phone rooted, and am ready for a new ROM, but I am running into a roadblock- most ROMs seem to need you to be S-OFF to work. :-( Since half the threads still assume you can't root an S-ON Doubleshot, there isn't much discussion of which ROMs are appropriate.
Any suggestions of stable, mature ROMs that will work on an S-ON Doubleshot of these specifications?
hboot 1.45.0013
S-ON
Unlocked Bootloader
ClockworkMod Recovery working
Rooted
My specifics:
Currently running a slightly-cleaned-up version of stock, don't remember which link (sorry). I borked my base install, so until I find a true stock ROM or backup, staying with stock and just cleaning it up isn't an option.
Other than the fact that I prefer Go Launcher Ex to Sense, I really didn't mind the stock ROM. I suspect that I will enjoy greater speed with a new ROM, but my main concern is stability. I don't have a backup phone, so this one needs to work very well. I wouldn't mind some of the improvements in ICS, but I don't know how many of my preferred apps have updated for it, so sticking with GB seems safer.
I do want the Play Store rather than Google Market, which seems to be an issue for no reason I can find (even on the stock before I started all of this I had trouble getting it to update). Other than that, I just want stuff to work properly. I am willing and able to be a good error reporter, but I would prefer not to need that capability on a day-to-day basis.
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Obviously, I will keep poking around on my own, but I figured asking publicly would be a good thing for others with the same limitation.

Try Bulletproof, I have been running it for a long time now, and I have found that everything works, and has way less issues than the stock rom. Just make sure you flash the kernel through fastboot before flashing the rom through recovery. Follow the directions in this thread. You can use any of our roms with this method, just gotta flash the kernel through fastboot first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508556
Edit: I know this works, because my boyfriend had to get an insurance replacement, and it had the new hboot. So my boyfriend is on the same hboot as you, unlocked, and S-on. He had me do this for him, because he kept having alot of random reboots on stock.

Bulletproof vs. MikTouch
Thanks very much for the suggestion! Haven't read up on Bulletproof yet- will go to that thread next.
Have you tried MikTouch? I am basically reading the ROM threads that look likely, and it seems to be the more-updated version of Bulletproof. Long thread, and I'm just now getting near the end, but it seems likely to be okay. Not sure if it sounds better or not, just wondering if you had compared, or just like Bulletproof enough to want to stick with it.

I have tried alot of the ICS roms, and always found something that didn't work right. I have heard good things about Miktouch, but I haven't tried it, because it just seemed so similar to Bulletproof, and I haven't had any issues with Bulletproof yet. When I do change roms it will be to an ICS rom, but so far none of them are quite where I need them yet. I see that fantastic progress is being made with CM9 though, so that is what rom I have my eye one once all the wrinkles are ironed out.

CM9 Alpha 4 works perfectly for me, but other people have reported bugs.

blackknightavalon said:
CM9 Alpha 4 works perfectly for me, but other people have reported bugs.
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Cm9 and MikTouch are my dailys, just cause I won't run a year old shipped ROM.
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Firefairy said:
Thanks very much for the suggestion! Haven't read up on Bulletproof yet- will go to that thread next.
Have you tried MikTouch? I am basically reading the ROM threads that look likely, and it seems to be the more-updated version of Bulletproof. Long thread, and I'm just now getting near the end, but it seems likely to be okay. Not sure if it sounds better or not, just wondering if you had compared, or just like Bulletproof enough to want to stick with it.
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I run the MikTouch 0.7 ROM with the Genius and other patches, and Strapped's 1.7GHz kernel. I have the phone running at 1.5GHz max, 192Mhz min and the smartassv2 governor. I'm getting a day+half normal usage on the stock original HTC battery! The ROM/Kernel combo is very smooth, and it has all the benefits of the latest 1.63.531.2 HTC ROM (which was a very nice improvement over the previous releases). I like a stock-based ROM simply because this phone is my ONLY phone, I need it to be rock-solid stable and everything to work as it should without any surprises or stand-on-your-head-with-finger-in-ear to get it to work.

[Q] Clean Rom

Hello everyone,
What exactly does Clean Rom do? How is it different from what comes with the phone stock? Will Clean Rom mess with the updates that are pushed to our phones? Any big differences between layout?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just not familiar with modifying my phone.

Must read more. Spend as much time as you can reading in the dev section. Clean ROM removes all of the ATT bloat and adds functionality like the FM radio and remapping the 3 dot menu button that takes up screen real-estate to the recent apps softkey. The recent apps can be accessed by holding down the home button, like we're familiar with. It also has performance and battery tweaks (says so in the changelog, haven't been using it long enough to notice). I flashed it the day before yesterday and I'm liking it.
Sent from my HTC One X

Clean Rom doesn't use profane language, think of it as the Will Smith of Roms...
Sent from my HOX running WCX

Did you bother to go to the Development forum, and read the CleanROM threads? They very well describe the features of each version of CleanROM.
You don't ever want to install an OTA update once on a custom ROM. It won't be compatible. Either it won't install, or it will remove root, or it will totally bork the system. The devs typically keep their ROM updated to the newest firmware base, and often long before the OTAs go out. So there is virtually never a benefit to updating via OTA (even if it did work).

Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
To the OP, if you want to flash custom, just do it. Spend a few days on Clean, try out Smokin's ROM, too. Just find something you like. Worst that can happen is you RUU back to stock.
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Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
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Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.

redpoint73 said:
Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.
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I don't think att can see your on a custom ROM, it has to do with if the developer is able to include that ability or not.

Thank you for the replies!
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone? Any disadvantages of using Clean Rom?
I'm just curious about how it works because I tried jailbreaking my iPhone and that made it very crash prone. It's a bad example but it's the reason why I never tried using custom software again but I'm interested in giving this a try. I only get about 2 hours screen time and about 12 hours of screen off time for my phone to die.
I did the HTC battery test and my phone went down to 92% so I'm pretty sure it's not the battery that's wrong with the phone.

RPTheLefty said:
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone?
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It appears you need to do more reading to get a better understanding or root, ROMs, etc.
Root is just a change of permissions on your phone. It allows the user and apps access to system files that are normally restricted. Nothing more, nothing less.
Clean ROM (or installation of any custom ROM) is a total replacement of the firmware or operating system of the phone (also called a "ROM"). Clean ROM in particular is mostly based on the latest stock firmware version, but cleaned up to remove bloat, optimizations to make it faster and smoother, and some cool added features. There are 3 different versions of CleanROM. Just read the threads for each version to learn the differences.
I don't really keep up with iPhone stuff. But my understanding is that jailbreaking adds functionality, but makes the system less stable.
Whether a custom ROM on Android makes the phone more or less stable depends on the ROM. Some are ported from other phones, to give new UI look or functions, but can be a bit buggy at first. But any good ROM will be stable once it reaches "maturity" and the bugs are worked out. They can be very stable, and even more stable and smoother than the stock ROM. Which is one of the points of running a custom ROM.
CleanROM in particular is based on stock firmware, just cleaned up. So its very stable. Just as stable as stock, a bit smoother in some places, and with some awesome added features. Any disadvantages? Not really. But you need to unlock the bootloader to install any custom ROM, which voids the warranty. nd flashing anything to the phone has the risk of damage if you don't follow the instructions properly. Thats the only downsides I can think of (for any custom ROM, not just for CleanROM).

Redpoint had an excellent summary.
If you're looking for battery life improvement, there are significant advantages to a custom ROM. Some will allow you to adjust the clock rate for the processors. So you can turn the up a bit (overclock) to get incredible performance, or you can turn them down a bit (underclock) to get better battery life.
If that's your main goal, I personally suggest Sick Sense from Smokingl337. He has incorporated this into his ROM, and the reports I've seen have been positive. I had used his ROM before, and I did like it. The day I flashed CleanROM due to a minor bug, Smokinl337 updated his ROM to fix that bug. Figures! But I'll be going back to Sick Sense pretty soon, I'm sure.
Hopefully you can find something that works for you.
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Different kernel or different radio may also help battery life.
But you need to root, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader to do any of these things (including flashing custom ROMs). So head over to Development and start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237

There is also a clean rom developers edition that takes out most of the HTC sense... there is the cm9 alpha 4 rom that seems very stable...
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OP, I was in your shoes last week. New to android/roms etc. I rooted, unlocked the bootloader and flashed Clean Rom. Just follow the instructions in the associated threads and you'll be fine.

[Q] My first attempt at installing custom rom

I have TWRP installed on my One X and fully backed up my current settings through the Backup function in TWRP as well as Titanium backup, just to be safe.
I want to install MIUI so I've downloaded the zip. Is the best method to wipe the phone and then install the zip, or is it to restore to factory settings and then install the zip?
Also, if I want to go back to my current rom (HTC Sense - that came with the phone) how would I restore the TWRP backup that was created? Also how solid is the TWRP backup? Will I have problems restoring from that with random things like market associations or settings?
Thanks for all the help everyone.

TWRP backups back up EVERYTING (I mean kernel, system, app apks) except for sdcard data. Restoring a backup will look exactly like the moment you backed up the ROM.
In order to flash a new ROM, do this:
1. Back up your apps using some application (Titanium Backup, Ultimate Backup, etc)
2. Create a new TWRP backup
3. Factory Reset
4. Install the ZIP
5. Boot into your ROM and download whatever app you downloaded in step 1
6. Restore your apps from step 1
Enjoy

im looking for a good rom as well but im new.
my att one x was on 1.85 before i rooted it and unlocked the bootloader.
now im just looking for a senseless rom like Jdroids or CM9 that will work with my situation.
id love to get jdroids exodized revoultion, does that work with att? or do i have to wait for an att version to come out?
any suggestions. thnx

veyg said:
im looking for a good rom as well but im new.
my att one x was on 1.85 before i rooted it and unlocked the bootloader.
now im just looking for a senseless rom like Jdroids or CM9 that will work with my situation.
id love to get jdroids exodized revoultion, does that work with att? or do i have to wait for an att version to come out?
any suggestions. thnx
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Don't flash anything that isn't actually in our dev forum unless you want a buggy POS (best case), a massive bootloop (slightly worse case), a beautiful paperweight (pretty bad), or your phone exploding (yeah that's probably the worst).
I made that last one up, but who knows.
As for Sense-less roms, look for AOKP or CM9. CleamROM DE/Dev Edition is pretty much Sense-less, but it retains some backend Sense things to ensure everything still works properly. It's as close to AOSP as you're gonna get without actually being AOSP.

stnguyen09 said:
Don't flash anything that isn't actually in our dev forum unless you want a buggy POS (best case), a massive bootloop (slightly worse case), a beautiful paperweight (pretty bad), or your phone exploding (yeah that's probably the worst).
I made that last one up, but who knows.
As for Sense-less roms, look for AOKP or CM9. CleamROM DE/Dev Edition is pretty much Sense-less, but it retains some backend Sense things to ensure everything still works properly. It's as close to AOSP as you're gonna get without actually being AOSP.
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Hello can you help me? i have a paper weight because i installed the wrong rom and i flashed it when i had 20% battery now y one x wont turn on or charge please help

mr.5106411 said:
Hello can you help me? i have a paper weight because i installed the wrong rom and i flashed it when i had 20% battery now y one x wont turn on or charge please help
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Well there's another lesson in there. Don't flash unless you have sufficient battery (I never do it under 50%....best to do it when fully charged though)
So you're not getting the led indicator to light up when you plug it in? What rom did you flash?

New to android, a few rooting questions please.

Hey, i am new to rooting, actually the whole android intact. I decided to get a HTC ONE X after having the iPhone for a while. I have watched some videos on rooting and i think i have all that down with boot loader and stuff. I just have a few questions about other stuff regarding rooting the phone with customer ROM's.....
1) if i have a custom rom, and i get an OTA update, will that brick my phone if i do decide to update it? I know that it will take root off... but will it brick it if i just update without doing anything with custom rom?
2)Do custom roms (the one I'm looking at is the cyanogen mod for HTC ONE X) kill the battery more then normal?
3) How do you go back to stock rom if you no longer want the rom.... is it as easy as just going to the reboot screen and selecting stock rom? is the stock rom already on there or do i have to put it on there?
4) If wanted, how easy is it to un-root phone?
5) and just personal opinion, what is the best jellybean Custom rom out right now for HTC one X?
Thank you all so much!!

1 - You can't OTA update with a custom rom. Anyway, the custom roms (Sense based) are further updates than the AT&T updates.
2 - When I used CM10, it had quite a bit of wakelock but it's dependent on each phone as well. Many have great battery life.
3 - RUU
4 - When you RUU, you relock your bootloader and it brings it back to stock. Only difference is now in the bootloader, it says re-locked, not locked.
5 - CM10 is pretty good so far, but I'm a fan of AOKP.

1. The OTAs are pulled by software on the phone. Custom ROMs don't have this software and don't pull, so no need to worry.
2. Depends. Keep in mind the current JB ROMs are still a work in progress. CM10 does still have wakelocks, but its getting better.
3. Already said above. Just relock your bootloader and RUU.
4. Easy to unroot. Easy to relock. But once you unlock your bootloader your phone will never say LOCKED again. I honestly have never had an issue with it with warranty repair, but please don't be an asshat and flash a ROM for the wrong One X and then complain to AT&T.
5. Personal preference. The great things about custom ROMs is you can try a bunch out and find the one that you like. I used AOKP a while back and liked it. CM10 is pretty cool but I just had it for a few days as they work out the wakelock issues. Also check out some of the ICS ROMs. CleanROM is pretty solid as well and gives great performance. Don't necessarily limit yourself. That's the beauty of it.

On going back to stock rom, you dont necessarily need to use the ruu. After you get your phone rooted, unlocked, and a recovery for flashing your custom roms, then just make sure before you flash your first rom that you (from recovery) select factory reset (will erase all user data such as 3rd party apps and such) then perform a backup, also in recovery. Now,you have a safe stock rooted rom backup. Go flash any of the roms in this forum and at anytime you can always just go restore your stock rom back