Hey, sorry for such a noob question, I do lots of reading on here and tried to post within a certain rom, C-Rom Kit-Kat 4.4.2 5/13/14, and it won't allow me since I have never posted anything on XDA. I have the Verizon HTC ONE M8 and it is bootloader unlocked, s-off, and on the stock rom with build number 1.56, with lots of customization but I found a new rom I wanted to try. It is an AOSP rom like mentioned above but I never seemed to find what build number it is on? I know with a SENSE rom you have to be careful of what build number your phone is, whether it is 1.54 before the update or 1.56 after the update.
My question is, when flashing an AOSP/AOKP/CM rom through TWRP, does the build number matter? In all the AOSP roms I never haven't been able to find where the OP states which it is, making me wonder if I need to worry about it or not? I want to flash away from the stock rom but only to an AOSP type rom.. I want to be careful because since we don't have a removable battery, I am worried I will be stuck in bootloop and I am not sure how to get out of it without a battery pull.. (I know holding power and volume up will restart the phone but how would you get back into recovery to restore a backup?)
Also while I am at my first post, do you recommend TWRP, CWM, or Philz touch recovery? I would like to stick to one recovery throughout the tenure of the rooted ONE M8, makes keeping backups
Thanks for the help and I greatly appreciate it! And I apologize again for such a noob question..
pahlerc1 said:
Hey, sorry for such a noob question, I do lots of reading on here and tried to post within a certain rom, C-Rom Kit-Kat 4.4.2 5/13/14, and it won't allow me since I have never posted anything on XDA. I have the Verizon HTC ONE M8 and it is bootloader unlocked, s-off, and on the stock rom with build number 1.56, with lots of customization but I found a new rom I wanted to try. It is an AOSP rom like mentioned above but I never seemed to find what build number it is on? I know with a SENSE rom you have to be careful of what build number your phone is, whether it is 1.54 before the update or 1.56 after the update.
My question is, when flashing an AOSP/AOKP/CM rom through TWRP, does the build number matter? In all the AOSP roms I never haven't been able to find where the OP states which it is, making me wonder if I need to worry about it or not? I want to flash away from the stock rom but only to an AOSP type rom.. I want to be careful because since we don't have a removable battery, I am worried I will be stuck in bootloop and I am not sure how to get out of it without a battery pull.. (I know holding power and volume up will restart the phone but how would you get back into recovery to restore a backup?)
Also while I am at my first post, do you recommend TWRP, CWM, or Philz touch recovery? I would like to stick to one recovery throughout the tenure of the rooted ONE M8, makes keeping backups
Thanks for the help and I greatly appreciate it! And I apologize again for such a noob question..
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Correct me if im wrong, but the sense build is just telling what that ROM is based on. Once your S-OFF, you can flash them as you please. I know the bootloader version was what would cause bricks in the past (flashing a 4.2.2 rom in a 4.3 bootloader) but i havent seen anything like that for the M8 yet.
Vol DOwn and power will get you to hboot which will let you get to recovery. I use CWM but theyre all comparable, just personal preference.
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Correct me if im wrong, but the sense build is just telling what that ROM is based on. Once your S-OFF, you can flash them as you please. I know the bootloader version was what would cause bricks in the past (flashing a 4.2.2 rom in a 4.3 bootloader) but i havent seen anything like that for the M8 yet.
Vol DOwn and power will get you to hboot which will let you get to recovery. I use CWM but theyre all comparable, just personal preference.
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Thanks for the reply! I can't wait to flash this new AOSP rom so I can remove all the bloatware put on by Verizon and Sense.. Just want to vierfy, so if the build number no longer matters since I am s-off, you're saying I can flash the ARHD rom on my phone even though it states the build number 1.54 and I have 1.56? Because I would also love to have a stock sense rom with lots of optimizations and tweaks for performance with less bloatware.
Thanks again
pahlerc1 said:
Thanks for the reply! I can't wait to flash this new AOSP rom so I can remove all the bloatware put on by Verizon and Sense.. Just want to vierfy, so if the build number no longer matters since I am s-off, you're saying I can flash the ARHD rom on my phone even though it states the build number 1.54 and I have 1.56? Because I would also love to have a stock sense rom with lots of optimizations and tweaks for performance with less bloatware.
Thanks again
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I just read that if you have the newest 1.55.6.. firmware and baseband and try to flash roms with the older baseband (1.54) then you might run into problems with losing root and and other issues..
Can someone please verify this? Currently on stock rom, rooted, s off, bootloader unlocked, with baseband 1.55.6.. Looking into flashing either AOSP rom or Sense rom but does it matter if its based on 1.54 or the newest 1.56?
Thanks, the help is greatly appreciated
pahlerc1 said:
I just read that if you have the newest 1.55.6.. firmware and baseband and try to flash roms with the older baseband (1.54) then you might run into problems with losing root and and other issues..
Can someone please verify this? Currently on stock rom, rooted, s off, bootloader unlocked, with baseband 1.55.6.. Looking into flashing either AOSP rom or Sense rom but does it matter if its based on 1.54 or the newest 1.56?
Thanks, the help is greatly appreciated
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you're just gonna end up with whatever baseband you flash as the latest baseband. where are you seeing people lose root bc of flashing a different baseband?
Abe21599 said:
you're just gonna end up with whatever baseband you flash as the latest baseband. where are you seeing people lose root bc of flashing a different baseband?
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It was in a different thread, can't recall which.. I have been doing way too much reading I think it was in one last few pages of the venom rom thread.. I'll just wait for Venom and Skyfall to update their baseband to the latest 1.56 build. No worries. Thanks.
Updated to the latest VZW firmware, and have had no issues using the multi-variant roms, which use the non-Verizon versions. My radio base still reflects the updated version (0321). On Viper right now with no issues, waiting for AOKP. Been using 2.7.0.2 TWRP with no problems. If you have a concern about flashing any ROM (and/or gapps if you are trying an AOSP ROM), just make sure you make a backup in recovery before anything else, and if the new stuff doesn't work well or borks your device, just learn how to get back into recovery and restore your backup. Read first, try second.
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Updated to the latest VZW firmware, and have had no issues using the multi-variant roms, which use the non-Verizon versions. My radio base still reflects the updated version (0321). On Viper right now with no issues, waiting for AOKP. Been using 2.7.0.2 TWRP with no problems. If you have a concern about flashing any ROM (and/or gapps if you are trying an AOSP ROM), just make sure you make a backup in recovery before anything else, and if the new stuff doesn't work well or borks your device, just learn how to get back into recovery and restore your backup. Read first, try second.
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Okay thanks for the help. I always make sure to read first and create a backup, I've made the mistake once and took a long process to get it solved and won't let that happen again that's for sure! Thanks for the response, I just flashed Skyfall 2.5 and it is amazing!
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Hi,
I had a few questions about kernels...hope someone can help me in answering these...
I am thinking of trying out the Netarchy kernel on my Nexus S, but i was just wondering is there anywhere I can download the stock kernel (so that if anything does go wrong i dont have to do a full nandroid restore?)
Also, when installing a new kernel does that wipe data (of course I will make a backup etc before installing it, but should all my settings and apps etc remain intact normally?)
what impact does an OTA update have if i am running a non stock kernel? so say i am using Netarchy's kernel, and google releases a new OTA update...will i still be able to install the update? If i do, will it revert to stock kernel?
Thanks in advance,
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Hi,
I had a few questions about kernels...hope someone can help me in answering these...
I am thinking of trying out the Netarchy kernel on my Nexus S, but i was just wondering is there anywhere I can download the stock kernel (so that if anything does go wrong i dont have to do a full nandroid restore?)
Also, when installing a new kernel does that wipe data (of course I will make a backup etc before installing it, but should all my settings and apps etc remain intact normally?)
what impact does an OTA update have if i am running a non stock kernel? so say i am using Netarchy's kernel, and google releases a new OTA update...will i still be able to install the update? If i do, will it revert to stock kernel?
Thanks in advance,
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I'm not aware of anywhere that the stock kernel is available for download so doing a NANDroid backup is really your best option. If you have anything that deviates from stock (kernel, rom, theme, even just deleted stock apps) it will prevent you from being able to successfully update from an OTA.
You can find a lot of information about all the available kernels here just scroll down to the third post and you'll find the info.
Finally, just as a note of personal opinion, getting OTA updates is a little overrated. If you run a custom ROM, the OTAs will be included in those ROMs eventually so you won't have to worry about restoring a stock ROM just to get the updates.
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I'm not aware of anywhere that the stock kernel is available for download so doing a NANDroid backup is really your best option. If you have anything that deviates from stock (kernel, rom, theme, even just deleted stock apps) it will prevent you from being able to successfully update from an OTA.
You can find a lot of information about all the available kernels here just scroll down to the third post and you'll find the info.
Finally, just as a note of personal opinion, getting OTA updates is a little overrated. If you run a custom ROM, the OTAs will be included in those ROMs eventually so you won't have to worry about restoring a stock ROM just to get the updates.
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Thanks for the quick answer. I had read that post before (it was actually how i came to discover kernels ). The reason why I was asking about the OTA is because I actually use the stock ROM but was just thinking about trying out the Netarchy kernel just to see what its all about. Hence if there is an OTA update, and i am running a different kernel to the stock, is the only way for me to incorporate the update by flashing the new stock rom and then reinstall the netarchy kernel?
Also, if i install it, do you know if it wipes data/apps?
Thanks
brownmonkey said:
Thanks for the quick answer. I had read that post before (it was actually how i came to discover kernels ). The reason why I was asking about the OTA is because I actually use the stock ROM but was just thinking about trying out the Netarchy kernel just to see what its all about. Hence if there is an OTA update, and i am running a different kernel to the stock, is the only way for me to incorporate the update by flashing the new stock rom and then reinstall the netarchy kernel?
Also, if i install it, do you know if it wipes data/apps?
Thanks
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I apologize as I forgot to mention that part of your question, I'm sick with the flu and a little out of it on some cold medications lol. You only lose data and apps when flashing if you wipe the /data partition in mounts and storage and this is not required nor is it recommended when flashing a kernel. Sorry for answering out of order, but I thought I should clear that up first. As to the other question, you have it correct; you would need to flash the new update ROM and then flashing a new kernel.
I should also note that whenever you install a new ROM, you will need to reflash a custom kernel. This is because the vast majority of ROMs released include a kernel and when you flash them it will overwrite whatever kernel you currently have.
Finally, if you have any other questions you can always feel free to post them on that thread. I'm the one who wrote it and I check it often to try and answer questions as best and as quickly as I can. Happy flashing!
Are you using a custom ROM? Flashing CM7 has the stock kernel. There are probably other ones out there that includes stock kernel with them such as OTA.
I am very much interested in ICS ROM, but one basic question:
If the Radio is not good for my region,esp. the voice clarity thing, and I wish to revert back to the GB ROM with the current RADIO which is on my sensation....would the Nandroid thing work on it???? Or anyway to download the radio which is currently there in my sensation...if yes, How do i find out the Radio for my sensation??
Someone please guide me...
I was flashing ICS ROM yestarday, but things didn't go right. Restored NAND and everything is working, and i still have back my old radio.
I have seen a few reports of going back to a GB ROM over in the InsertCoin thread, so it would seem like reverting back would be an option. It would also depend on whether or not you did the full process of upgrading to an ICS ROM including updating the firmware, because I believe 4.0.1 can be run on the original firmware but 4.0.3 you must update it. According to what I have seen regarding InsertCoin anyways.
Also, I want to say that you can find your radio information if you boot into hboot. (Take battery out, hold VOL down and power). Not 100% sure though, I usually just use it to hop into recovery.
Hope I helped
I flip flopped a couple times now, just make sure u reflash gb firmware if u upgraded for ics, and always use the radio reccomended with the rom. I've had no issues.
Here's my last 4 roms, in case anyone cares.
Cm7->tripnice->cm7->virtuous Inquisition
hockeystar711 said:
I have seen a few reports of going back to a GB ROM over in the InsertCoin thread, so it would seem like reverting back would be an option. It would also depend on whether or not you did the full process of upgrading to an ICS ROM including updating the firmware, because I believe 4.0.1 can be run on the original firmware but 4.0.3 you must update it. According to what I have seen regarding InsertCoin anyways.
Also, I want to say that you can find your radio information if you boot into hboot. (Take battery out, hold VOL down and power). Not 100% sure though, I usually just use it to hop into recovery.
Hope I helped
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I am currently running android revolution 5.0.2 without updating my radio or firmware and it is running very well. If I want arhd 6.0.2 then I would need to install new firmware. So far I am keeping my option to return to gingerbread without any hassle.
Flashing a rom or backup doesnt change your radio. You have to go through your bootloader for that. I havent heard any bad news about going back to GB as long as older 10.xx radios are flashed as well. And people have actually gone back succesfully while keeping newer firmware and hboot. And by people i mean me lol. I have a insertcoin GB 3.4.5 backup on tap i use regularly cuz we all know ICS is still learning how to walk on our sensations
madigan311 said:
Flashing a rom or backup doesnt change your radio. You have to go through your bootloader for that. I havent heard any bad news about going back to GB as long as older 10.xx radios are flashed as well. And people have actually gone back succesfully while keeping newer firmware and hboot. And by people i mean me lol. I have a insertcoin GB 3.4.5 backup on tap i use regularly cuz we all know ICS is still learning how to walk on our sensations
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Did you flash the radio separately? I am having the problem now as I did a NAND restore to GB, but the radio is still 11.xx...I think the battery is draining more with it. So I want to revert the radio back...but how did you do that? Just flash the radio? I flashed the recent firmware from December in HBOOT and even though it says the custom radio was flashed, the radio still says 11.xx
please let me know
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Did you flash the radio separately? I am having the problem now as I did a NAND restore to GB, but the radio is still 11.xx...I think the battery is draining more with it. So I want to revert the radio back...but how did you do that? Just flash the radio? I flashed the recent firmware from December in HBOOT and even though it says the custom radio was flashed, the radio still says 11.xx
please let me know
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You can flash a radio through hboot screen just like you did with ICS firmware. Im not sure but i dont think the firmware zip from the dec tmo ota had radio included as all radios are rolled up in a thread in the dev section. Theres a radio flashing guide somwhere too
madigan311 said:
You can flash a radio through hboot screen just like you did with ICS firmware. Im not sure but i dont think the firmware zip from the dec tmo ota had radio included as all radios are rolled up in a thread in the dev section. Theres a radio flashing guide somwhere too
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Thanks..I just flashed the radio and it worked. BTW, which GB ROM is good and stable? I am considering trying it out while wait for ICS to finalized. You mentioned the insert coin?
newr said:
Thanks..I just flashed the radio and it worked. BTW, which GB ROM is good and stable? I am considering trying it out while wait for ICS to finalized. You mentioned the insert coin?
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you could try this one
by far it's the rom which i consider stable and have a good design.
madigan311 said:
Flashing a rom or backup doesnt change your radio. You have to go through your bootloader for that. I havent heard any bad news about going back to GB as long as older 10.xx radios are flashed as well. And people have actually gone back succesfully while keeping newer firmware and hboot. And by people i mean me lol. I have a insertcoin GB 3.4.5 backup on tap i use regularly cuz we all know ICS is still learning how to walk on our sensations
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Just wondering if you had problems with the Lock Screen display with the 3.4.5 insertcoin? I tried it, and somehow the lock screen won't display the icons..even when it's turned on from the settings
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Just wondering if you had problems with the Lock Screen display with the 3.4.5 insertcoin? I tried it, and somehow the lock screen won't display the icons..even when it's turned on from the settings
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Nope, never saw this problem... Tried reflashing????
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Would like to know who has the firmware to go back go GB? Because the nand backup isn't working.....
Never mind - found it right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20681060&postcount=22
I think i'm getting overwhelmed with all the reading I'm doing and need a little help clear out the confusion in my brain
I'm rooted
I have SUPER CID
I have S-OFF
Custom Recovery (TWRP)
On a custom ROM (chameleon OS)
Never updated to JB OTA
Does my phone need to update to JB before I begin to flash any other Custom ROM? I know these roms provide Android 4.1/4.2+ but does my phone need the OFFICIAL JB update for it to work good? I see a lot of people installing the stock RUU and getting the update - I guess my main question is - is it necessary to downgrade back to stock, update, re-root,unlock, install new ROM again with my phone now having JB thru OTA?
If so - what are the PROS of doing this?
If not - is my phone going to be okay installing ROMs with my phone never being updated.
Thanks!
Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, because you're wiping cache and data the phone is a blank slate. You could go back to Cupcake or skip forward to Jelly Bean 4.3... If you managed to break into Google Inc and get the data for that.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
Normaly no.
But I've seen situations with previous devices that a certain min hboot/firmware is required.
Like if your firmware is gb any jb/ics Rom might not work. just an example!!
Just look what base the Rom is made from. Test if it works. If not update you're firmware to min required or same as base of rom. Test it again.
Always check op of rom. Or ask the dev.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC One S met Tapatalk
since you're s off, any ROM will work.
Real187, on some other HTC devices (eg.Flyer), you had to match your hboot to the ROM, but so far for the One S, this hasn't mattered (for the average user).
The only "firmware" partitions you might consider messing with is the radio, but that won't affect if the ROM boots.
to answer your question, the pros of ota are none to negligible. No ones sure if the other partitions it updates are beneficial.
Thx for the replies! I was worried about this as I see a lot of people trying to downgrade and bricking their phones while doing the process.
I have a TmoUS HTC One S, and I unlocked bootloader, rooted my phone and flashed Pacman 22.3 on my phone. I like the rom, but it has slowed my phone and made it quite buggy. It soft-resets at least once a day and randomly gets stuck on lock-screen and I have to wait a couple minutes to try again. Anyway, those are just a couple of my annoying bugs that I don't want to deal with anymore. I'd like to just go back to the stock rom, but as I've found out, I can't restore from a previous backup.
As I'm relatively new to smart-phones, rooting, installing roms. I need a straightforward tutorial on how to flash the stock rom. I've read through the xda forums but cant seem to find exactly what I'm looking for. Any help would be greatly appreciated. And I apologize in advance if this wasn't the correct thread to post in.
PS - Not sure if this make any difference, but I have CWM installed as my recovery.
bizeekizay said:
I have a TmoUS HTC One S, and I unlocked bootloader, rooted my phone and flashed Pacman 22.3 on my phone. I like the rom, but it has slowed my phone and made it quite buggy. It soft-resets at least once a day and randomly gets stuck on lock-screen and I have to wait a couple minutes to try again. Anyway, those are just a couple of my annoying bugs that I don't want to deal with anymore. I'd like to just go back to the stock rom, but as I've found out, I can't restore from a previous backup.
As I'm relatively new to smart-phones, rooting, installing roms. I need a straightforward tutorial on how to flash the stock rom. I've read through the xda forums but cant seem to find exactly what I'm looking for. Any help would be greatly appreciated. And I apologize in advance if this wasn't the correct thread to post in.
PS - Not sure if this make any difference, but I have CWM installed as my recovery.
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make backup first
change cid back to original (if needed)
flash stock jb recovery (extract from ruu or ota, or google it on xda)
flash latest tmous jb ruu. (latest ota is also availible in ruu form)
Hey all, need a quick hand with my T-Mo LG G2 d801- 4.4.2 stock rom.
Process so far: towelroot>supersu>autorec>twrp>...
Tried flashing CM11, but after about 20min I figured I did something wrong, lol.
What version of cyanogenmod should I be flashing, 10 or 11? From the description of what AutoRec does to deal with the bootloader, it downgrades to the last vulnerable rom to install/enable custom recovery, correct? If so, does it stay downgraded or is that just to get the custom recovery in place?
Don't want to brick my phone experimenting, so here I am. Thanks in advance!
Also should have waited till after work, as I have no more time tonight to mess with it unfortunately. Back in 8hrs! :silly:
Nevermind, I got it working.
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Nevermind, I got it working.
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Consider that while others might not have had an answer to your question, your thread could have been frequented in order to see the answer.
So, how did you resolve your issue? ?
fleshybits said:
Hey all, need a quick hand with my T-Mo LG G2 d801- 4.4.2 stock rom.
Process so far: towelroot>supersu>autorec>twrp>...
Tried flashing CM11, but after about 20min I figured I did something wrong, lol.
What version of cyanogenmod should I be flashing, 10 or 11? From the description of what AutoRec does to deal with the bootloader, it downgrades to the last vulnerable rom to install/enable custom recovery, correct? If so, does it stay downgraded or is that just to get the custom recovery in place?
Don't want to brick my phone experimenting, so here I am. Thanks in advance!
Also should have waited till after work, as I have no more time tonight to mess with it unfortunately. Back in 8hrs! :silly:
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Autorec just flashes an older boot loader, with a stock based KK kernel that's compatible. Once up and running any stock based kernel can be flashed if running a stock ROM. It also supports running any after market ROM, however, if running a jb based ROM one needs to be on a jb modem, and if running KK a compatible modem. These are pretty much the only prerequisites.
Sorry, that was rather rude of me wasn't it? Apologies. Not fair to ask for help if I can't return the favor when I can.
Well, instead of looking around on the CM downloads page to get the most stable release, I just got the most recent snapshot of CM 11. Silly me
Turns out the right file to flash first was, of course, the last stable release for the G2 D801, which was CM 10.2.0 (at least at the time of this writing, as far as I know.) After getting the right file and trying again, I was rocking my first custom ROM. Go me! :good:
I have not yet tried the snapshot again to see if I could upgrade to CM11, as I hit another snag: I can't connect to my carrier anymore. I can see T-Mobile in the list for networks but selecting them does nothing, I get no service. Restoring the stock ROM works just fine, its like nothing happened, but running CM I can't connect. Any suggestions?