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EVERY SIGN NEEDED ! Petition to Sony to update Xperia L !

https://www.change.org/p/sony-xperia-l-update-to-android-4-4#invite
Here ! Please share this and don't say "They won't" !

jakubekw1997 said:
https://www.change.org/p/sony-xperia-l-update-to-android-4-4#invite
Here ! Please share this and don't say "They won't" !
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Signed :fingers-crossed::highfive:

signed

Singed i hope Sony Update My XL

They won't. People you need to understand, Sony had made the mistake of releasing too much devices (which in turn made them lose a lot of money). They also need to support these new devices despite causing them financial trouble. Their dev team would not be able to handle too much, that's why they cut support for the Xperia L and other mid-range and low-end devices for last year as well. Plus the fact that our Xperia L is an ODM device, that's why it has a lot of hardware issues no software can fix, most probably why they did not give us a 4.4 or at least 4.3 because they just can't solve these with software.

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They won't. People you need to understand, Sony had made the mistake of releasing too much devices (which in turn made them lose a lot of money). They also need to support these new devices despite causing them financial trouble. Their dev team would not be able to handle too much, that's why they cut support for the Xperia L and other mid-range and low-end devices for last year as well. Plus the fact that our Xperia L is an ODM device, that's why it has a lot of hardware issues no software can fix, most probably why they did not give us a 4.4 or at least 4.3 because they just can't solve these with software.
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make sense. that's is why at the time Xperia L for AOSP KitKat released by Sony, is just a "death flag" for us to get 4.4 or even 4.3.

itsjustJOH said:
They won't. People you need to understand, Sony had made the mistake of releasing too much devices (which in turn made them lose a lot of money). They also need to support these new devices despite causing them financial trouble. Their dev team would not be able to handle too much, that's why they cut support for the Xperia L and other mid-range and low-end devices for last year as well. Plus the fact that our Xperia L is an ODM device, that's why it has a lot of hardware issues no software can fix, most probably why they did not give us a 4.4 or at least 4.3 because they just can't solve these with software.
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I said , DON'T SAY THEY WON'T !!!

Stop denying the fact that this phone is discontinued. There's no Mid/Low end sony phone that have more than 2 android upgrades
Xperia L 4.1 > 4.2
Xperia M 4.1 > 4.3
Xperia M2 4.3 > 4.4
Xperia J 4.0 > 4.1
And so on
Admit it, THEY WON'T Do anything, or care about a small petition

TakuyaZ said:
Stop denying the fact that this phone is discontinued. There's no Mid/Low end sony phone that have more than 2 android upgrades
Xperia L 4.1 > 4.2
Xperia M 4.1 > 4.3
Xperia M2 4.3 > 4.4
Xperia J 4.0 > 4.1
And so on
Admit it, THEY WON'T Do anything, or care about a small petition
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Dont forget M Dual it became 4.2.2 and 4.3 to and started with android 4.1.2 so it had 2 Software updates

XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Dont forget M Dual it became 4.2.2 and 4.3 to and started with android 4.1.2 so it had 2 Software updates
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M dual have no 4.1.2, it came with 4.2.2 out of the box

Hate to be this guy to give you this "truth" but I don't see Sony doing anything really to update Xperia L at all.
All your efforts would not suffice to change their minds.
I remember doing that for another device and regardless of how big our community grew in efforts to persuade Sony to give us another update but it didn't happen.
Sony has a very weird system of updating devices and there's no real thought given and usually their promises of updating for a year aren't kept either. They would simply stop " updates of a mid ranger" while update an older low end device with half the ram. And if asked why you can't update the device, they'd just say that the mid ranger wasn't good enough to run the new OS due to its limited memory.
And that's it. In recent year Sony is bracing for more losses than previously expected due to selling lesser mid range and low end phones. One of the factor being, very little and slow updates.
Sony needs to learn from Motorola which is updating its phones to lollipop which are not just old but also run on 512 mb ram.
I wish you all the best and I hope that I'm proved wrong by Sony but I don't see that happening at all.

I won't sign because simply they won't..our device is discontinued.. So no matter what we do..nothing will happen
Last year we have made a petition to update our phone to kitkat or jellybean 4.3 (Sony didn't announce that our xl is discontinued that time) but Sony didn't do anything.. And now you want them to respond to us after they have announced that our xl is discontinued?? Oh please
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No use
Many phones have been discountinued
For eg - xperia s with 4.1 last update

BAD LUCK TO ALL NON-z

Bad luck for all non-Z series users..... No Lollypop
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/06/sony-says-no-lollipop-for-non-xperia-z-series-owners/
WTF ???????¿

imElectronica said:
Bad luck for all non-Z series users..... No Lollypop
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/06/sony-says-no-lollipop-for-non-xperia-z-series-owners/
WTF ???????¿
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So what's the problem, mate?
The E3 has a fully grown up OS version. Probably will receive the 4.4 update, just like the dual-sim variant and it will be OK.
I don't understand all the hype surrounding the 5.0 version. Not even all the top-rangers from last year got the update.
They are still launching new models with Kit Kat on board.
Moving on from this point of view I've read a lot of threads regarding both official AND custom builds of 5.0 and in all these threads users are complaining about some serious memory management problems. Putting it clear the RAM management, at this moment, is worse on Lollipop than on Kit Kat. I have a friend with a LG G3, the version with 3GB RAM and after the update he also noticed that the memory management is worse.:laugh:
So my true and sincere advice is to be happy with a fully optimized OS version than unhappy with a buggy-first-cycle-of-life version of the same OS which you will probably use just the same I have a SGS4, the I9505 version with Snapdragon 600 CPU which is scheduled to receive Lollipop but I'm not in a hurry to install it. Both the I9500 (Exynos) and I9506 (Snapdragon 800) variants of the SGS4 received it already and everyone reports lots of bugs. I'm not saying that Sony is above or bellow Sammy, but the OS is the same so the problems will be the same. And if you wonder what am I doing on this thread let me just say that I bought my father an E3 as a gift So I'm keeping a close eye on it :cyclops:
So don't worry and enjoy the phone because it's a perfect mid-ranger! Cheers and all the best :highfive:

Perfect mid-ranger with only 4GB of internal storage (whilst E4 comes with double that storage at 2/3 of the price of E3 + better front camera)? At least lollilop would solve the internal storage issue to some extend.

cnagr said:
Perfect mid-ranger with only 4GB of internal storage (whilst E4 comes with double that storage at 2/3 of the price of E3 + better front camera)? At least lollilop would solve the internal storage issue to some extend.
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I dont,t think if we have ram problem lollypop will be usefull at all.as he told 3gig,s of ram had problem.
Storage is not an issue i have 7gigs of games on my sd with 1 gig free internel storage.
E4 is reallly lost everything from e3 e4 has super small datacable for charging. Fully crap.it,s like sony just reduced quality to make a low price phone. Even micromax had better phone than e4. And yellowness in display is worse thing. Just grab e3 instead of e4.
I reallly love sony for build quality. Which it lost in e4.
Don,t know why but i really think of samsung like micromax and other,s.
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AlexVat said:
So what's the problem, mate?
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After 2 or 3 month, when 5.0 is released fully & all new apps's comparability is 5.0 or above, then what you do.....with ur 4.4.4.....No themes no apps

imElectronica said:
After 2 or 3 month, when 5.0 is released fully & all new apps's comparability is 5.0 or above, then what you do.....with ur 4.4.4.....No themes no apps
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Excuse me, but can you name at least 5 apps or games that worked on 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich and don't work anymore because of the OS update? And 4.0.4 is how old by now? I quote: "Release to manufacturing: October 19, 2011". Aham! That's like 4 years ago Think you going to keep the E3 for at least 4 years? In fact let me tell you that Xposed doesn't have a stable version on 5.0 yet. And that's a main reason for a lot of people not to upgrade to 5.0.

AlexVat said:
Excuse me, but can you...
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Every one have their own thinking Bro....all d best

So sad but is not the end!!
:crying: Guys, dont talk so fast!!!
Not necesarily we have bad luck.
Remember guys, there´s an AOSP development for mid and low range 2014 Xperia devices such as: E3, M2, T2 ultra, T3 and C3. That devices may receive lollipop through official or unofficial way after Z series.
I know you are going to say: AOSP is not a requirement for make a final and stable version. But, Why was the reason sony released an AOSP?
http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...e/open-devices/list-of-devices-and-resources/
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ased-2014-xperia-devices-now-supported-video/
Even if is not lollipop for us, we can keep with kitkat, keeping on mind the highest KK stability compared with released 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 lollipop versions.
I know AOSP is bug filled, but some developers are working in that issues. Theres no CM12 stable version for Flamingo (E3) but @freexperia is working at least in LTE E3 devices.
Yesterday, Unofficial Xperia Blog reported some screenshots of Xperia C3 running something like lollipop in chinese market, but it may be fake
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/0...enshots-emerge-could-it-be-landing-after-all/
And also, dont let intimidate by three or four tweets or android related blogs with the bad new. We should wait the official confirmation on Sony Xperia official blog.
BTW: if Sony really dont want update 2014 models and just update Z series and upcoming 2015 models, they will lose market quota. Sony is not good in the mobile market, forget the users and dont listen them can be a mistake for Kazuo Hirai´s company.
And here is the final comment: my next phone will be from motorola or another brand updateable, because Sony, LG, Samsung, Alcatel and others forgot low and mid range devices, thanks to the high fragmentation of the premise "Same but different"
People change its devices each two years, so, we never will get the latest version of android on any device, even if the device has infinite ram, processor and storage! Certainly the true is many people get/buy a low mid range instead a high and expensive flagship
We should support cyanogenmod or develop our android versions for stop programated obsolescence! Look, android versions rolling in the world: 2.3 4.0.X 4.1.X, 4.2.X 4.3.X 4.4X, 5.0.X. This is not fair for users!!! Android is doing bad, they should follow iOS example and keep updated even the legacy devices on all brands!!

lexiyuri said:
:crying: Guys, dont talk so fast ..
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True....Bro

Maybe there will be lollipop upgrade..
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/08/sony-now-says-no-comment-on-non-xperia-z-series-lollipop-plans/

atomicr said:
Maybe there will be lollipop upgrade..
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/08/sony-now-says-no-comment-on-non-xperia-z-series-lollipop-plans/
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It all depends on sony.
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Lollipop 5.1 binaries for E3
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-releases-5-1-binaries-xperia-phones-594087/

atomicr said:
Lollipop 5.1 binaries for E3
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-releases-5-1-binaries-xperia-phones-594087/
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--> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59044511&postcount=25
screen work (no resume from sleep bug), but no wifi/baseband/camera

Android M for Xperia M2?

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Does it mean; maybe xperia m2 can get Android M update?
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Doubtful, I think 5.1 will be the last big update for the m2. It's 18mth update cycle is up in November. Yes the binaries have been released but that's so you can make your own asop rom from source. All these pictures n charts going round are just guessing and the ones I've seen half the Xperia devices on them probably won't get marshmallow.
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Thanks ^^ a good rom is already enough
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It's surprise me that they are updating to LP, it's third version and Sony usually update just for one to next.
Xperia M2 D2303 on K.K. 4.4.4

I think they caved in to constant hounding from a Army of loyal users myself(it was a very popular device in 2014/15). Linuxct (#lollipopm2) or something close to that , myself, and lots of others were bombarding twitter and other social media feeds. That's what I like to think anyway as it said they'd changed their mind due to a barrage of loyal Xperia users on the initial press release in June I think it was
After all alot of Sony's custom is from loyal repeat purchaser's
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yeah, android M on AOSP

Do not forget about Aqua, it was released much later then usual M2.
Also Go was updated several time from 2.3.7 to 4.1.2
First M from 4.1.2 to 4.3
But anyway we'll see the development
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I don't know. Never say ever. Many said we weren't getting Lollipop either but after some good pressure Sony pleasantly decided to update our phone as well. It has the Android M developer preview, and from what I read Marshmallow doesn't really have many new features. Here an article describing what's new:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/google-android/10-best-android-m-new-features-3614893/
It looks to me more like a 5.2 release than a 6.0. The switch from 4.4.4 to 5.x was much bigger. ART alone is a game changer.

So, it's not impossible
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it took ages for Lollipop to even START to get developed, I highly doubt that this phone will get M. But most of us didn't think this phone will even get L, so maybe it's a very slim 10% maybe even less.

But I think the L is just like a beta version of M, so maybe we can get M.
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Given how long it's taken to finally get to 5.1(nearly there), the m2 will be well out of its update cycle by the time Sony think about releasing marshmallow for any device , even if they use the m2 aqua release date instead of the m2. I think 5.1 will be the last big update for our device as it's not a flagship device only Sony know that one. Personally it's not a problem if it doesn't as in less than 12mths it'll be upgrade time for me so I'll get whatever Sony device is available on my network if I don't take the plunge and get a Z5 before then.
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Well, we are moving straight to 5.1.1, though. Which was released in April. The Moto G (quite similar to the M2, same SoC) has got it last month. And it will get 6.0. I mean, I don't know. If Sony wants to compete in the middle range market they are better give the idea that they keep supporting the older phones, like Motorola is doing.

Miche1asso said:
Well, we are moving straight to 5.1.1, though. Which was released in April. The Moto G (quite similar to the M2, same SoC) has got it last month. And it will get 6.0. I mean, I don't know. If Sony wants to compete in the middle range market they are better give the idea that they keep supporting the older phones, like Motorola is doing.
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Regardless the fact, mid-range 2013-14 devices has a little amount of Internal Storage, do you think is going to be work fine with that things Sony add to devices? Without getting in count the Google apps. I'll be very pleased if Sony port 6.0 Marshmallow to our devices, yet, I don't think it's going to be work fine having in mind those facts. Even Moto G 2013 until now is being left behind. Just Moto G 2014 and so on will get Marshmallow.

xLobito said:
Regardless the fact, mid-range 2013-14 devices has a little amount of Internal Storage, do you think is going to be work fine with that things Sony add to devices? Without getting in count the Google apps. I'll be very pleased if Sony port 6.0 Marshmallow to our devices, yet, I don't think it's going to be work fine having in mind those facts. Even Moto G 2013 until now is being left behind. Just Moto G 2014 and so on will get Marshmallow.
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Well, I'm not an expert of the Moto G. I checked it before to buy the M2 and I've seen the two phones had many things in common. So I doubled check, now. From what I've read around the Moto G 2nd generation is supposed to get Marshmallow (and maybe the 1st gen too).
The Moto G 2nd gen phones come with two memory sizes: 8 and 16GB. From my point of view the change in internal memory needed won't be as drastic as in the jump from KitKat to Lollipop. ART is a internal memory sucker and 8GB will be just enough (so be ready to use Link2SD or equivalent scripts), but Marshmallow isn't introducing anything that heavy for the mass storage.
I don't know, after all we are just guessing. I say that there is a slight chance that we still can get it. Not that I''ll cry if we won't. The game changer has been Lollipop (and I wanted it), Marshmallow after all is just an update. Indeed I've found out it was initially numbered as 5.2:
http://www.androidstandard.com/android-m-version-confirmed-as-android-5-2-not-android-6/
OS version numbers became quite a relative thing, lately (any reference to a certain version 10 isn't casual... ).

Z2 upwards and 2015 Xperia devices will get marshmallow, possibly z1 depending on release time. Z downwards won't get marshmallow.
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We are lucky enough to have lollipop on our device
So don't expect much to Sony except expecting for aftermarket rom

I'm happy that Sony give us 5.1. And there's not much different between 5 & 6. You can wait for developers in xda to release 6.0. I hope there are more people to develop rom for each model.

Marshmallow update...Xiaomi is playing with us!

I bought a Mi4c a few months ago convinced it was a great phone that could replace my Nexus 5 and yes it is a good phone with good specs but I bought it also when Xiaomi announced it would update to Marshmallow. My Nexus 5 was already running under MM so, I thought it would be a matter of a couple of weeks (Xiaomi announced update in Decembre) Today months have passed, many manufacturers like Motorola, Sony and even Samsung have updated some of their models even Moto E...but still nothing for Mi4c. Xiaomi makes good phones and I thought it was better than others cheap Chineses makers. It wants to be compared to Apple but it lacks support and compromise to existing customers. I probably had placed my expectations too high. Am I the only one? Next time I will buy a Nexus again.

Xiaomi uses Miui rom. There is no mutch different between MM based miui and Lollipop based miui.
Miui have most features of MM has already.

Ümit said:
Xiaomi uses Miui rom. There is no mutch different between MM based miui and Lollipop based miui.
Miui have most features of MM has already.
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thats right! because of that i have no stress to get MM.
sMIUI runs great for me and have many many features!

IMO, they have too many devices to support. Just look at this table:
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Many vendors only support their devices for 1 year, some 2, but here you can see Mi2S which is almost 3 years old and is still a supported device. I don't think Xiaomi has big enough development team to maintain all of those devices to match current base Android version. Moreover, they're advertising MIUI, which should have the similar experience between supported devices regardless the base Android version. 3 devices are already out with MM (still beta?), just wait for Mi4c turn. What features do you need from MM anyway?

"What features do you need from MM anyway?" My thoughts exactly.
Looking at the new features of MM, the ones that are interesting are the memory manager, per-app permissions and battery management. These are all things MIUI has built in already. Which probably also makes it that much harder to integrate into a new MIUI version.
Most of the other changes are cosmetic and most likely would not be reflected in MIUI anyway, when the MM update does come out.

or you can install TS CM13 - built by TS team or TS broken OS. They are 6.0 MM and pretty stable now. Great team with great supports and speed.
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The only real feature M offers over L is SD card as internal storage. Since Mi4c has no external storage you aren't missing anything. MIUI already does a Doze feature killing everything in the background.

Doze, per app permission and memory management are thé most wanted feature un MM.
MIUI is good and I don't criticize his developping team very active. I am only mad at Xiaomi marketing team making announcements and not complying.

jipi said:
Doze, per app permission and memory management are thé most wanted feature un MM.
MIUI is good and I don't criticize his developping team very active. I am only mad at Xiaomi marketing team making announcements and not complying.
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Like a few of us mentioned so far, those features have been built into MIUI for a long time already. So rejoice, you have your most wanted features
On a serious note, it's probably reasonable to assume the MM rollout will follow the release of the new flagship, the Mi 5. Which I think is like a day or two away. You can bet that'll be released with the latest MIUI iteration of android.

jipi said:
Doze, per app permission and memory management are thé most wanted feature un MM.
MIUI is good and I don't criticize his developping team very active. I am only mad at Xiaomi marketing team making announcements and not complying.
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Please provide at least 1 quote from Xiaomi officials that said Mi4c will get MM soon.
And no.. gizchina "xiaomi mm devices updates schedule" is not official.

i use Broken that is 6.0 and it works perfectly...
if u want 6.0 that bad get it...

Smartlock is there but it is not working at all... That would be nice to have it, dont know if under Android 6 or 7, or actual 5.1...
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i believe it's a matter of time before the mi4c reveives marshmallow... but judging from xiaomi history mm won't come anytime soon... i'd estimate (personally) early autumn the soonest......

Am I the only one that think Xiaomi won't update Mi4c to MM?

Fsu0413 said:
Am I the only one that think Xiaomi won't update Mi4c to MM?
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I guess so. Since Mi 3/4/5/Note get it, there's no reason to skip Mi 4C/4S/Note Pro/any other still supported devices. However, they seem to be in a discussion now, for supporting newer Android base with locked bootloader or stay with older one with unlocked bootloader.

Why shouldn't it get MM? The Mi4S just got released and should therefore get it, which is very similar to the Mi4C.

Maybe they will update Mi4c straight forward to "N" just like Mi4 which jumped lollipop to MM.

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Smartlock is there but it is not working at all... That would be nice to have it, dont know if under Android 6 or 7, or actual 5.1...
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you can use smartlock after install xposed framework and xMIUI xposed module. You have to be rooted though...

Heard of this phone SMARTISAN Nut Pro 2? Anyone has it? Want to buy it from China

Smartisan is one of the few Chinese manufacturers that pays serious attention to its design. The design of Nut pro 2 is quite stunning. More importantly, the specs is quite decent, 4+64, 6+64, 6+128 and 6+256, and i personally will like to go for the 6+128 version、5.99 Inch、Qualcomm Snapdragon 660、Face ID Recognition、USB Type C&OTG&Bluetooth 5.0
What do you guys think?
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here is another one, red/black/golden, I am into the red version

I am also interested in this phone. I am wondering if Google Play can be installed without root?
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reefmonger said:
I am also interested in this phone. I am wondering if Google Play can be installed without root?
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Yes, the other day i ask one Chinese online retailer if they can install the google play for us before shipping, they said yes, of course. Here is their selling the 6gb+128gb version: https://www.coolicool.com/smartisan-u3-pro-nut-pro-2-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-qualcomm-snapdragon-660-22ghz-octa-core-599-inch-corn-g-47748

Thank you for your prompt reply.

I own it.
Hi guys, I own and love everything about this phone. The design is fantastic, camera is great, screen is superb and the battery life is brilliant etc... There are a few work arounds I'm still having to get used to coming from an iphone, but there really are very few drawbacks.
The few niggly things (being based in the UK) are:
- I can't use Android pay as it doesn't pass Android safety net. Looking online this seems to be true of a lot of Chinese phones and all of Smartisans. This one is a biggie to me.
- All 4 app doesn't work on the phone
- Some of the unread badges (WhatsApp for example) don't show up on the stock OS. I believe this is an Android thing though? Same for no easy way to copy and paste images...
- it says 3G on the network even when you're getting 4G signal and speeds (I tested them using speed test).
Other than these though I couldn't be happier. Especially for the money. The phone really is beautiful, more so than I was expecting.

Smithappens84 said:
Hi guys, I own and love everything about this phone. The design is fantastic, camera is great, screen is superb and the battery life is brilliant etc... There are a few work arounds I'm still having to get used to coming from an iphone, but there really are very few drawbacks.
The few niggly things (being based in the UK) are:
- I can't use Android pay as it doesn't pass Android safety net. Looking online this seems to be true of a lot of Chinese phones and all of Smartisans. This one is a biggie to me.
- All 4 app doesn't work on the phone
- Some of the unread badges (WhatsApp for example) don't show up on the stock OS. I believe this is an Android thing though? Same for no easy way to copy and paste images...
- it says 3G on the network even when you're getting 4G signal and speeds (I tested them using speed test).
Other than these though I couldn't be happier. Especially for the money. The phone really is beautiful, more so than I was expecting.
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Are you still happy with this device? Seems to offer most bang for the buck of all chinese upper midrange phones. Do you have any major problem with notifications, whatsapp for instance?

Google play market is installed directly without any messing around, but were you able to find a way to root it?

Another Smartisan owner (from Netherlands)
flipp0 said:
Are you still happy with this device? Seems to offer most bang for the buck of all chinese upper midrange phones. Do you have any major problem with notifications, whatsapp for instance?
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Hi there, I’m using this phone for about 6 weeks now and I’m happy with it too.
For the money it’s a great device, looking beautifully. The 128/6GB variant is very smooth in all situations.
It’s easy to install Google from the Smartisan store, search for gugi app and afterwards you’ll find Play Services an Play Store working.
Screen and battery life are great, 4g is displayed now (after update) when receiving 4g signal. Before it always said 3g.
Sound quality is average, the camera is not bad but I expected a bit more from it (less pronounced colors, a little less contrast and less noise in some occasions). It seems the hardware of the camera is good enough, it just needs further tweaking in my opinion (i am a camera nerd, owning Vivo Xshot before).
I received already 4 updates, mainly for tweaking and stability but I never encountered a crash so far.
Idea Pills, Big Bang are nice to haves, software features are good but some are not so easy to find out. As are the settings for Google apps.
Notifications of WhatsApp is working for me, however you do need to change settings in the app manager otherwise Messenger and WhatsApp for instance freeze at 5 minutes after closing the app (for battery savings). Therefor it’s important to get settings right.
All in all I think for the money it’s a good buy.

I just received this phone with a "global rom" but now it will not update. Does anyone know where I can find the stock ROM and the update procedure. Thanks in advance

reefmonger said:
I just received this phone with a "global rom" but now it will not update. Does anyone know where I can find the stock ROM and the update procedure. Thanks in advance
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I've recieved my Smartisan Nut Pro 2 Smartphone this week! I was so impressed. This is really one of the best looking (and performing) Smartphones.
But as @reefmonger I have the same problem with the fist OTA update I recieved.
It will download, but when installing it just comes back with: Error --> Press Volume UP + Power button to return...
I'm looking for a way / file to install the update manual. It's about Version 4.1.6. I'm now running V4.0.4.
Hope anyone has got an idea or better: the solution

AleXX1976 said:
I've recieved my Smartisan Nut Pro 2 Smartphone this week! I was so impressed. This is really one of the best looking (and performing) Smartphones.
But as @reefmonger I have the same problem with the fist OTA update I recieved.
It will download, but when installing it just comes back with: Error --> Press Volume UP + Power button to return...
I'm looking for a way / file to install the update manual. It's about Version 4.1.6. I'm now running V4.0.4.
Hope anyone has got an idea or better: the solution
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I am thinking this problem is created by Gearbest customizing the stock smartisan ROM. See 5:28 point of this video
https://youtu.be/J50iBANw9MA
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Hi there,
I think it is Gearbest ROM related.
Mine is from Joybuy with original ROM and so far I received 4 successful updates.
Even with Play Store installed from Smartisan market.
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Thnx All.
I Already discovered it is ROM/ version related.
I wanted to update manual to the new version and then the bootloader said it was a wrong version ...
I should be xxxxxxx (forgot the name) and I have the xxxxxxx.hawai version ...
So a difference in Chinese / Global / international version ??
I'll take a look at the youtube film a poster added earlier ...

AleXX1976 said:
Thnx All.
I Already discovered it is ROM/ version related.
I wanted to update manual to the new version and then the bootloader said it was a wrong version ...
I should be xxxxxxx (forgot the name) and I have the xxxxxxx.hawai version ...
So a difference in Chinese / Global / international version ??
I'll take a look at the youtube film a poster added earlier ...
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https://youtu.be/Y2hRCAUO8DI
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I just ordered the 6GB/64GB version which apparently has the new rom with OTA support. It arrives on Wednesday. I really love how customisation the OS is! Just a shame we can't have Android Pay working in the UK!

What are they doing now?
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/03/...l-9-launch-event-could-it-be-launching-nut-2/
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https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/01/21/smartisan-announce-revolutionary-product-may-15/
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https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/01/21/smartisan-announce-revolutionary-product-may-15/
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I have used thier flagsship for 2016 before (Smartisan M1L for 1 year), and now I am using this Nut Pro 2 and have been using it for about 3 months;
There are some points I think you need and others need to know:
1) Smartisan does not upgrade Android version. so if your phone released with Android 7.1.1, it will stick with forever; but they update the security patches after few of monthes ( 4-12 months )
so don't expect big updates, the maximum update size you will get is 400GB
2) The old phones get the new features (related to softwaare) that packeged in the newest phones, no matter what version of Android is.
3) The Nut Pro 2's camera is very sensitive, mine' camera glass got wrekt but it is still functioning and no any effect to the quality
4) Updates changelog always in chinese, but you can translate it using Big Bang feature.
5) others around you can hear the voice of the caller or the one you are talking to with vie Nut Pro 2.
6) the company is going to release another new phone in April, you can check thier official forums http://bbs.smartisan.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=182
I hope it is flagship, I will buy it and sell my Nut Pro 2 then
7} there is upcoming major update ( Software version 4.5.0 and size will not be higher than 400GB unless you are on very old ROM) - mine is now on version 4.1.7.1 (the latest version for now)
the chinese people are testing the beta now.
8) you can delete 90% of the bloatware and some of main apps such as the primitive calculator.
9) You cannot root the smartisan phones, at least not the new phones.

D.Spirit said:
I have used thier flagsship for 2016 before (Smartisan M1L for 1 year), and now I am using this Nut Pro 2 and have been using it for about 3 months;
There are some points I think you need and others need to know:
1) Smartisan does not upgrade Android version. so if your phone released with Android 7.1.1, it will stick with forever; but they update the security patches after few of monthes ( 4-12 months )
so don't expect big updates, the maximum update size you will get is 400GB
2) The old phones get the new features (related to softwaare) that packeged in the newest phones, no matter what version of Android is.
3) The Nut Pro 2's camera is very sensitive, mine' camera glass got wrekt but it is still functioning and no any effect to the quality
4) Updates changelog always in chinese, but you can translate it using Big Bang feature.
5) others around you can hear the voice of the caller or the one you are talking to with vie Nut Pro 2.
6) the company is going to release another new phone in April, you can check thier official forums http://bbs.smartisan.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=182
I hope it is flagship, I will buy it and sell my Nut Pro 2 then
7} there is upcoming major update ( Software version 4.5.0 and size will not be higher than 400GB unless you are on very old ROM) - mine is now on version 4.1.7.1 (the latest version for now)
the chinese people are testing the beta now.
8) you can delete 90% of the bloatware and some of main apps such as the primitive calculator.
9) You cannot root the smartisan phones, at least not the new phones.
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I notice you can flash the official rom with a flash cable. I ordered one which has arrive. Zi Reviews has posted a how to on his youtube.

Ok I flashed the official software using a deepflash cable. I am now on the 4.1.7.1 build which is awesome. Was really easy to do I don't like the shop rom at all!