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Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Have you tried a factory reset? Mine was running very smoothly on the OTA. I also wiped my phone before and after the update.
Honestly I don't find it that much buttery. In some app it even seems slower. But I'm running custom ROM with some restored apps.
Maybe with a total fresh start it will work better...
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nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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I had the same problem with the OTA. JellyBelly runs smooth though.
Seems a lot better than ICS 4.0.4 stock. Google now is slow to load but otherwise everything is sweet.
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nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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The search (response between pressing the search softkey and the search box came up, I need to press it again to show the keyboard) is a lot slower now thanks to Google Now, other stuffs are same for me.
nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Are you running OTA or some custom ROM? I tried a few different JB ROM's + kernels and wasn't very impressed. It was a very stuttery experience with lots of slowing downs. I guess i had too much junk laying around after so many flashes.
So i wiped everything, went back to stock image and got the OTA JB that way and rooted it. It's been running very smoothly ever since I wouldn't say it's a HUGE improvement over ICS..but maybe like 20% smoother. It's definitely not slower than ICS (i was running both stock ICS 4.04 and CM9 RC1 before. The only places i noticed the lack of buttery smoothness is when opening Google Now and the Camera app. The camera itself is fast and all, but the start up time is longer than i remember on ICS.
From my experience, it's actually "smoother" but not really faster than ICS.
Just went back to CM9 RC2 and I must say that it's much faster than any JB ROMs out there but just doesn't have buttery smooth animation.
I quite like JB. I don't use custom roms (I prefer stock with matr1x), and JB is nicer that ICS. Previously, recent apps was useless to me. It took forever to load. now it loads in an instant. also, I don't get ~10 seconds of lag after I install/uninstall an app, faster to boot, faster to finish loading apps after booting and the ui is much nicer. Ofc, it does stutter from time to time, but it's negligible, as far as I'm concerned. Project Butter is really doing stuff right.
Ofc, it's not as smooth and fast as on the gnex, but that's to be expected. The hw is not as good. But it does a pretty good job. I really wish google would upgrade the kernel and make it use all the ram available...don't see why they don't use it all...
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The search (response between pressing the search softkey and the search box came up, I need to press it again to show the keyboard) is a lot slower now thanks to Google Now, other stuffs are same for me.
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Instead of pressing the search soft key just press the Google logo on the Google bar... that will bring up search faster
mine seems good
I understand your feelings, but JB on nexus s is better than ICS, maybe not faster but definitely smoother. JB does give a nicer feel to the whole phone experience.
If you're on custom rom, try the stock one Afresh. I flashed stock Ics then got JB ota. I have also used Stevens JB and oodies. But after a fresh install, the stock one seems the best. However, I'm waiting for CM10 as CM9 is definitely better than stock ICS. I'm expecting the same from CM10.
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I am asking myself the same question as the op. When I got my nexus s about a year ago it replaced a horribly slow nokia n86. The new UI felt fast. With time I got used to the speed of the UI and was generally quite happy with the performance.
Then came ICS and I began to wonder. Sometimes apps took a few secons to open a certain menu, sometimes the same menu was opened in half a second. Now with JB i get the impression that these inconsistent lags are appearing even more often. A typical usecase for me:
Listening to music via BT headset -> press power -> unlock screen -> select (standard) music app -> search for a specific song.
Sometimes this works as expected with <0.5s between steps, sometimes unlocking or opening the music app takes >3 seconds.
I should note that my system is completely stock and was never unlocked or rooted. I did the OTA to ICS and now to JB as intended by google. I never whiped any cache nor did I ever reinstall. When I have the time I may try that just to see if it makes any difference. For the moment though, I am left with the impression that 512mb ram and a single core CPU are not enough for a 2012 OS.
I'm finding a big improvement over ICS. I can't say I've found anything that doesn't work at least as good as ICS and a lot of stuff works better for me. The smoothness has really improved my 'user experience'.
That being said the app developers need to play catch up and get their stuff optimized for JB.
Can't wait to try the amazing custom JB ROMs that are going to be rolling out soon as well.
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Same here, I notice quite a few stutters, and I believe more than I had on ICS.
Maybe I'll try to flash stock Google ICS, and then do the official Google OTA update. The current ROM I'm using is this one, but maybe that is really not 100% the same as the Google OTA version?
Also, I'm truly disappointed at the fact that I can't use my voice on Google Now without having the whole cell phone in English. If I don't have the menus in English, all it does is Google searches... Basically seems like anyone that doesn't speak English natively is alienated.
Hopefully chainfire updates chainfire 3d opengl driver to work with jb .
Made ICS significantly smooth should do same with JB
Currently using CM10 and it works perfectly. I have not seen any lag whatsoever so i am pretty happy with it. I used the stock OTA but it was a major battery drain. That's really all I have seen that is negative.
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Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Can try to disable Force GPU rendering in Developer options to solve shutters.
On my i9023 JB, the graphic is slower but my battery life has improve than on ICS. Dont know it is because of JB or I reset the batt setting b4 upgrade to JB.
which do you prefer and why? Team EOS 4 or No-name CM10.1?
which is faster, more stable and with better battery life?
how about bugs?
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which do you prefer and why? Team EOS 4 or No-name CM10.1?
which is faster, more stable and with better battery life?
how about bugs?
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Team EOS 4 of course... stability is assured here.. and with Timburu behind them, it gets even better now.
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Yeah EOS is actually amazing. Blew me away a little. Go for the preview version for now.
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I am using Team EOS4..very smooth and stable without lag.. batteries is good..
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I'm using EOS 4 because I find it virtually flawless when used with Nova. josteink is doing a nice job with his "no-name" too though, and is worth a look if you're a CM fan.
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My "stock" rom, ie stable/maintained/enhanced/feature rich, is EOS since early days of 101. I forgot about Asus' rom, and I'm grateful we got unlock keys for our tablets so early!
As the one maintaining the No-name build, I have to say both are good. And they are different. So it's really just a matter of taste.
Timduru is doing an excellent job with Team EOS 4 and the only reason I'm not using that and instead is maintaining my own build is because I prefer CM-based ROMs.
So I say try both. See which one you like best. You probably wont be disappointed by any of them.
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Yeah EOS is actually amazing. Blew me away a little. Go for the preview version for now.
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why preview version and not the nightly?
does the kernel in EOS works good or should i install kat kernel?
update: nevermind. i'll go for preview with kat kernel.
i am using no-name for a long time now and i think is super. after reading most of the replies here saying about EOS, i will give it a try
Part of the issue is that people (at least myself) have been using EOS for so long that we are kind of entrenched, and EOS4 came out before no-name. Back in the early TF101 JB ROMS, EOS3 had proved to me to be the most fully-functional and stable of the TF101 ROMS, if (maybe) not the smoothest when it came to scrolling through the home screen. I tried them all and I liked them all, but just found EOS the best all-around,
The more recent builds of EOS 4 have been similar for me, very stable, everything that I normally use works fine. Maybe still a very rare screen tear here and there, but no SOD/RR's. I loaded up no-name a few weeks ago and it seemed to work great, but as I was used to my EOS4 set-up, I didn't give it much of an evaluation. It takes me some time to set up my tablet to how I like it, and while it was fun doing so the first 10 times, it's not as much fun as it used to be. I might flash no-name again and see if a data-only nandroid restore of my current set-up works, and give it a more of a run.
The only downside to EOS4 IMO might be that with the nav bar (bottom bar) enabled, home-screen transitions aren't as smooth as I'd expect from jellybean. The plus side is that I learned to stop using the navbar and instead disable it, using LMT pie controls or GMT gestures, both of which work great and allow for more screen real estate. My old TF101 seems to be as fast, smooth and functional as my Nexus 7 or my sister's TF Prime.
These guys have really made my $250 Black Friday tablet into the best bang-for-the-buck gadget I ever bought.
I use the No Name and i like it.
On Team Eos the gapps din't work after 2 installs so i install the no name and everything works best. :good:
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Part of the issue is that people (at least myself) have been using EOS for so long that we are kind of entrenched, and EOS4 came out before no-name. Back in the early TF101 JB ROMS, EOS3 had proved to me to be the most fully-functional and stable of the TF101 ROMS, if (maybe) not the smoothest when it came to scrolling through the home screen. I tried them all and I liked them all, but just found EOS the best all-around,
The more recent builds of EOS 4 have been similar for me, very stable, everything that I normally use works fine. Maybe still a very rare screen tear here and there, but no SOD/RR's. I loaded up no-name a few weeks ago and it seemed to work great, but as I was used to my EOS4 set-up, I didn't give it much of an evaluation. It takes me some time to set up my tablet to how I like it, and while it was fun doing so the first 10 times, it's not as much fun as it used to be. I might flash no-name again and see if a data-only nandroid restore of my current set-up works, and give it a more of a run.
The only downside to EOS4 IMO might be that with the nav bar (bottom bar) enabled, home-screen transitions aren't as smooth as I'd expect from jellybean. The plus side is that I learned to stop using the navbar and instead disable it, using LMT pie controls or GMT gestures, both of which work great and allow for more screen real estate. My old TF101 seems to be as fast, smooth and functional as my Nexus 7 or my sister's TF Prime.
These guys have really made my $250 Black Friday tablet into the best bang-for-the-buck gadget I ever bought.
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Agreed, my tablet now runs better than most new devices with EOS 4. May see some RR if overclocking past 1.4GHz or leaving the SDCARD in the dock when not in use.
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Hey guys, semi noob here. I currently have AR on my tablet and i want to upgrade to 4.2. When i started learing to do this i soft bricked my tablet by going from 4.1 to the ARevolution. I would prefer for this not to happen again. So is all i need to do is do a full wipe. then install 4.2 off sd card via CWM? then flash apps etc?
Just follow initial installation intstructions really. And I would recommend using TWRP instead of CWM.
You should install this first, via Goomanager, and when you see that you have that working, you can install this ROM.
Note: if this is the first 4.2 ROM you are installing, beware that you will probably have to do a factory reset to be entirely sure you avoid problems.
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Just follow initial installation intstructions really. And I would recommend using TWRP instead of CWM.
You should install this first, via Goomanager, and when you see that you have that working, you can install this ROM.
Note: if this is the first 4.2 ROM you are installing, beware that you will probably have to do a factory reset to be entirely sure you avoid problems.
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So for some reason i cant "mount sdcard".... Not sure what to do from here...
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So for some reason i cant "mount sdcard".... Not sure what to do from here...
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Not sure where you are in the process... More details?
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Not sure where you are in the process... More details?
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Sorry. I didnt download Goomanager (i am now) basically i had 4.2.2 rom on my sdcard along with gapps. booted into CWM recovery. Wiped data etc, went to instal via sdcard and said that it cant be mounted. IE i can install new room. I can reboot back into my original rom (AR). so i am going to try the goomanager via TWRP
No idea why i couldnt mount sdcard however.
This is one of the reasons twrp is recommended.
It works with both internal and external storage without any nonsense
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Ok i got it. Thank you very much!
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ya that was alot easier. Thanks!
I've used both now and they seem to be the same in terms of speeds
But saying that the speeds are generally rubbish. I've no idea what is going on or if I am expecting too much from this now relatively old tablet and a new OS. Everything seems to lag even on a fresh install.
If the tablet is downloading anything then things grind to a major halt.
I'm pretty sure that ICS wasn't anywhere near as bad as this.
Running games and typing on the keyboard seems to be OK though...just seems to be normal day to day use.
Any ideas ??
Actually now I think about it the slowness only really is visible when there is data flowing. If I turn off WiFi then there doessnt seem to be much sluggishness at all.
Does anyone else get this?
I was one of the early adopters of the TF700 and purchased mine from Office Depot sometime last summer. It was always laggy, but recently it's been pretty bad.
I've tried several ROMs including stock, CM10.1 and CROMi-X. All have this issue. It sometimes lags in simple tasks, but I've been finding the lag several places, like in the transition to the app drawer and the notification bars. There are lots of choppy transitions everywhere.
Is there anything I can do to fix it? Currently running CM10.1 with bryce's kernel. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted with TWRP. I'm at my wits' end and I'm pretty close to flashing stock and selling this thing.
Thanks!
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I was one of the early adopters of the TF700 and purchased mine from Office Depot sometime last summer. It was always laggy, but recently it's been pretty bad.
I've tried several ROMs including stock, CM10.1 and CROMi-X. All have this issue. It sometimes lags in simple tasks, but I've been finding the lag several places, like in the transition to the app drawer and the notification bars. There are lots of choppy transitions everywhere.
Is there anything I can do to fix it? Currently running CM10.1 with bryce's kernel. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted with TWRP. I'm at my wits' end and I'm pretty close to flashing stock and selling this thing.
Thanks!
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Do you have an sd card in the slot? Try it without Roms shouldn't lag that much. CROMi-X is pretty much lag free for me. You must have something else causing the issue.
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Do you have an sd card in the slot? Try it without Roms shouldn't lag that much. CROMi-X is pretty much lag free for me. You must have something else causing the issue.
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No sd card. I think it's a hardware issue similar to this:
http://androidandme.com/2013/06/opi...from-the-best-to-worst-tablet-ive-ever-owned/
It probably has to do with Asus's quality control.
Do you think Squaretrade covers this type of thing? I have a SquareTrade warranty that covers accidental damage stuff.
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I was one of the early adopters of the TF700 and purchased mine from Office Depot sometime last summer. It was always laggy, but recently it's been pretty bad.
I've tried several ROMs including stock, CM10.1 and CROMi-X. All have this issue. It sometimes lags in simple tasks, but I've been finding the lag several places, like in the transition to the app drawer and the notification bars. There are lots of choppy transitions everywhere.
Is there anything I can do to fix it? Currently running CM10.1 with bryce's kernel. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted with TWRP. I'm at my wits' end and I'm pretty close to flashing stock and selling this thing.
Thanks!
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Download lagfix. It like defragrements the storage and the the lag disappears
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Download lagfix. It like defragrements the storage and the the lag disappears
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Lag's still there. I feel like it helped a tiny bit (probably placebo effect) but compared to my stock Nexus 7 and SGS2 with CM10.1, it's choppy and slow.
Non Sequitur said:
I was one of the early adopters of the TF700 and purchased mine from Office Depot sometime last summer. It was always laggy, but recently it's been pretty bad.
I've tried several ROMs including stock, CM10.1 and CROMi-X. All have this issue. It sometimes lags in simple tasks, but I've been finding the lag several places, like in the transition to the app drawer and the notification bars. There are lots of choppy transitions everywhere.
Is there anything I can do to fix it? Currently running CM10.1 with bryce's kernel. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted with TWRP. I'm at my wits' end and I'm pretty close to flashing stock and selling this thing.
Thanks!
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I got mine for Christmas, and mine seems to slowly be getting worse too. Mine is rather sluggish too, and I'm running completely stock at the moment with no expansion card. I've disabled quite a few of the stock apps, and I'm really not running much on here other than a few games.
It's even worse (might be unrelated to your issue though) if I unlock the device after it has been asleep for a while, sometimes I can't do anything for several minutes. It seems like it's checking for updates, e-mails, and notifications on every single app, because it would often spam me with notifications, particularly for the Facebook Messenger app, which I have recently removed. I made sure to turn off automatic updates and notifications for many apps, because it would start to update apps right after unlocking it, rendering it nearly unusable until it finished. I have the GreenPower battery manager app to help with battery life, which actually may make the problem worse because it forces WiFi to stay off after asleep for a while, so it can't update apps or get notifications until I unlock it.
I will look into the LagFix app.
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I got mine for Christmas, and mine seems to slowly be getting worse too. Mine is rather sluggish too, and I'm running completely stock at the moment with no expansion card. I've disabled quite a few of the stock apps, and I'm really not running much on here other than a few games.
It's even worse (might be unrelated to your issue though) if I unlock the device after it has been asleep for a while, sometimes I can't do anything for several minutes. It seems like it's checking for updates, e-mails, and notifications on every single app, because it would often spam me with notifications, particularly for the Facebook Messenger app, which I have recently removed. I made sure to turn off automatic updates and notifications for many apps, because it would start to update apps right after unlocking it, rendering it nearly unusable until it finished. I have the GreenPower battery manager app to help with battery life, which actually may make the problem worse because it forces WiFi to stay off after asleep for a while, so it can't update apps or get notifications until I unlock it.
I will look into the LagFix app.
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If you are on stock check out Greenify. That's probably the most intelligent app to manage resources I have encountered. It's especially helpful with these pesky background services that think they have to run at all times.
It exists as an app in the Play Store (the paid version allows you to hibernate system apps and services - or those installed as such... like FB is on many systems), or as a module for Xposed Framework.
You do need root for this to run.
Another interesting way to speed up stock systems may be Xposed Framework. I just started to look into it - cannot say that much about it yet. But definitely worth looking into.
And then there's always the good old factory reset which does help clearing out accumulated crud. Yes, it's a pain to set up everything again, but if you're system becomes almost unusable it's a must try.
Again, if you are rooted you can use Titanium Backup to backup and restore your user apps, and if you are using a custom launcher like ADW, Apex or Nova, they all have a backup function and make it easy to restore your home screen setup.
I did a total clean install yesterday night while watching a movie and was done with it before it finished.
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Lag's still there. I feel like it helped a tiny bit (probably placebo effect) but compared to my stock Nexus 7 and SGS2 with CM10.1, it's choppy and slow.
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When did you do your last clean installation? Meaning wiping everything: system, data, cache and Dalvik before installing the ROM again and then only restoring user apps from backup - no system data!
If you lag that bad on a custom rom like CM 10.1 or CromiX, it's your setup, not the tablet or rom.
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Still on stock 4.1.1, was one of the very first people who bought it (a few weeks before the official release). Mine's not slowing down at all. 4.2 did cause some serious lag issues for people, on both the TF700 and the Nexus 7. (And yes, I use it daily.)
Maybe try going back to 4.1.1? I am quite happy with my decision to wait for others to try it first...
@berndblb: I know you were replying to Castun, but just to rule it out, my last totally clean install was not long ago. I also just did a factory reset in TWRP. Still laggy sometimes. Also, if I have it in any other mode except for Performance, it lags even worse...
I just now realized that my dock doesn't work, either. And I JUST did a factory reset and didn't restore any apps! It only works in safe mode, which doesn't make sense because I don't have any extra apps when I'm not in safe mode.
But yeah, I'm going to flash back to stock 4.2 and see if it's fixed. If not, I'll try 4.1. If push comes to shove, I'll sell it...
I also tried Greenify, but it didn't really do anything because all I have are system apps.
I flashed stock 4.2 and it fixed a lot of the lag. The device works pretty well now. Thanks for that suggestion, not a bad one! haha
Anyway, I have another small question in addition to this:
If I DO decide I still want to sell it, what's a good way to unroot, flash stock recovery, and relock the bootloader (if possible)? If I do, will I be able to recieve OTA updates? Thanks!
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I flashed stock 4.2 and it fixed a lot of the lag. The device works pretty well now. Thanks for that suggestion, not a bad one! haha
Anyway, I have another small question in addition to this:
If I DO decide I still want to sell it, what's a good way to unroot, flash stock recovery, and relock the bootloader (if possible)? If I do, will I be able to recieve OTA updates? Thanks!
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Flashing the complete stock firmware automatically unroots and restores stock recovery. Relocking the bootloader does not re-enable OTA updates or manufacturer warranty, so it's useless to try.
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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CROMi-X obviously
Try a few out though - see what you think.
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I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Wait a few weeks and you may not have to decide! sbdags and _that are continuing to work on ROM2SD for CROMi-X! Run his rom on internal and another rom on your microSD. Already works for CROMi-X, miniCROMi-X, but CM is coming - I can feel it
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Linux is where the real funs at
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If only I had the time to study.....:crying:
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
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Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
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You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
sjgieson said:
I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
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Wow, thanks for the good explanation... What I said was just my opinion, I hope that you are not offended..
Also, there is a trim supported on Cromi X but that would depend on the version of the kernel. You can ask _that or sbdags to help you mount it if it is not currently mounting as an option...
Good luck...:fingers-crossed:
Nope no offense taken! As you had a point .
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
The only time I experience a crashing application is with boat browser. I leave the setting for flash set to always on and flash itself isn't a clean application. That is what causes my tablet to force close the app. I've not experienced the rebooting that I did running pure stock Asus firmware either and it otherwise runs perfect.
Maybe try using one of _that's OC kernals. While not as fast as hunds, they are stable and still offer a greater experience than stock. I haven't found needed to use the 1.8ghz performance mode in his kernals and for my needs the balanced setting at 1.3ghz works fine. The extra boost is there if needed.
Speed doesn't mean you will have the best user experience from the tablet. While hardware specs are meant to be the same for all TF700s, each component is different due to the manufacturing process for each tablet assembled. The CPU/components in your tablet may not play nice with hunds kernal.
a very good one
try cmbroms running 4.3.1 but very close to building 4.4 weekly updates and there great love it. if you have any question there team is very fast to respond http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=47629521:cowboy:
I have been running Cromi-X 5.1 for a few weeks now and it works great.
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were running cmbroms over here and loving it i hear from up the grapevine there getting kitkate soon so will be getting 4.4.1 cant wait the 4.3.1 is solid as a rock and i build them myself on my linix machine loving it
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-X will be a good option. I think it give you more freedom to install what you want a bit more flexible.
sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button. Lastly and the worst, Google Now and Google Now Launcher are very unpleasant to use, freezes on the opening and lags almost on the entire time.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
Anggrian said:
Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
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Would you like to try my Extreme Tweaks, ET? Give it a shot and tell us what you think...:laugh:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
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Anggrian said:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Actually, it is a part of the Cromi X v5.4. It is working fine with Cromi X ROM only and never test with other ROMs. It is running perfectly fine with all of my testers except one that he had a weird waking up issue....
Hello
My TF300T, Android Version 4.2.1, is getting slow and it does not matter how many times I do a factory restore, it still stays slow. Its got to the point that I've had to turn off the Window Animation and Transition Animation just to get it responsive enough to stop the lag.
The batteries on the device and keyboard drain like there is no tomorrow while on stand-by. This never used to happen before I updated to 4.2.1 late last year.
As it is, I have a Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 working on Kit Kat and I would like to know if it is a good idea to attempt putting Kit Kat on my ASUS TF300T?
Or if it is best to leave well alone. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
yes
I did the upgrade to cm-10.2 and am very glad I did. The lag disappeared! Twrp 2.6.3.0.
the lemming said:
Hello
My TF300T, Android Version 4.2.1, is getting slow and it does not matter how many times I do a factory restore, it still stays slow. Its got to the point that I've had to turn off the Window Animation and Transition Animation just to get it responsive enough to stop the lag.
The batteries on the device and keyboard drain like there is no tomorrow while on stand-by. This never used to happen before I updated to 4.2.1 late last year.
As it is, I have a Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 working on Kit Kat and I would like to know if it is a good idea to attempt putting Kit Kat on my ASUS TF300T?
Or if it is best to leave well alone. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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You have a lot to choose, but if you want a rock solid rom with no bugs and a lot faster than stock, go for CROMi-X. It's a 4.2.1 rom based on stock but you will see a lot of improvement. For what I know KitKat roms are still very buggy.
I tried cromi-x, but it was still laggy. Better, but still.... when I went to cm10.1 things sped up, and 10.2 is better. I'm thinking about cm11, but there seems to be a problem with backups using twrp2.6.3.0. I can't back up. Seems twrp can't complete without error. Something about file size, and it can't determine the size of partitions... will be more exact if asked.
My lag was extreme on the stock 4.2; so bad I had given up on the tablet. The custom roms have saved me!
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HDias said:
You have a lot to choose, but if you want a rock solid rom with no bugs and a lot faster than stock, go for CROMi-X. It's a 4.2.1 rom based on stock but you will see a lot of improvement. For what I know KitKat roms are still very buggy.
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They're not "buggy" at all. Only things like GPS are inconsistent.
I've been using kitkat as my daily driver on my tablet since the first post for it.
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I am on OMNI rom 4.4.2 and have no problems at all. It's quite smooth and definitely better than 4.2.1. JMHO
Ramrod421 said:
I am on OMNI rom 4.4.2 and have no problems at all. It's quite smooth and definitely better than 4.2.1. JMHO
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4.4 Omni Rom runs strangely well on the tf300t, most notably for me is the responsiveness of the packaged launcher.
I haven't notice something buggy about Android 4.4, i'm using the OmniRom and couldn't be happier!
HDias said:
You have a lot to choose, but if you want a rock solid rom with no bugs and a lot faster than stock, go for CROMi-X. It's a 4.2.1 rom based on stock but you will see a lot of improvement. For what I know KitKat roms are still very buggy.
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Hello
I very much would like to go for a Stock version of Android 4.2.1.
I very much would appreciate a Link to a Help or Tutorial that will comprehensively guide me through the process of CROMi-X or something similar which is as close to s Stock Android 4.2.1.
I have only ever rooted and had a go replacing a ROM on my Samsung Ace. Things did not run smooth to say the least. In fact I bricked the phone for a few days before finding a ROM to save the day.
In short, I am willing to have a play at changing the ROM on my TF300T but I will enter into it with some trepidation.
I think I will stick off Kit-Kat for quite a while for the bugs to be worked out. You never know ASUS may help out.
Go here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425390
You will find all the info you need to flash CROMi in the first page
have any custom rom like cyano or omnirom the hardware acceleration implemented?
with cromix any THD app or movie player application use hardware GPU, instead with other THD app does not work and movie player application work only in software mode using CPU only.
HDias said:
You have a lot to choose, but if you want a rock solid rom with no bugs and a lot faster than stock, go for CROMi-X. It's a 4.2.1 rom based on stock but you will see a lot of improvement. For what I know KitKat roms are still very buggy.
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TheBlack75 said:
have any custom rom like cyano or omnirom the hardware acceleration implemented?
with cromix any THD app or movie player application use hardware GPU, instead with other THD app does not work and movie player application work only in software mode using CPU only.
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Bit confused here, does this mean that if I do a custom ROM then I will lose an important feature of my Tablet for watching media, either on it or projected onto a TV through a HDMI cable?
the lemming said:
Bit confused here, does this mean that if I do a custom ROM then I will lose an important feature of my Tablet for watching media, either on it or projected onto a TV through a HDMI cable?
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Last week i tried the nightly of omnirom and cyanogen 11, they are fastest, but I found an important feature missed.
I tried DICE player to view an .avi and I had a force close, then I tried Sonic 4 Episode 2 THD and I had a force close...
then I discovered that any THD app did not work properly...
I assume that GPU HW acceleration does not work using AOSP rom ....
So I tried Cromi-X and I found again HW acceleration (it is based on official rom) and no lag
I hope that it is my problem with cyano or omni rom but no one answer to me
TheBlack75 said:
Last week i tried the nightly of omnirom and cyanogen 11, they are fastest, but I found an important feature missed.
I tried DICE player to view an .avi and I had a force close, then I tried Sonic 4 Episode 2 THD and I had a force close...
then I discovered that any THD app did not work properly...
I assume that GPU HW acceleration does not work using AOSP rom ....
So I tried Cromi-X and I found again HW acceleration (it is based on official rom) and no lag
I hope that it is my problem with cyano or omni rom but no one answer to me
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Yes, there are some HW acceleration problems with the latest nightlies.
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the lemming said:
Bit confused here, does this mean that if I do a custom ROM then I will lose an important feature of my Tablet for watching media, either on it or projected onto a TV through a HDMI cable?
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HDMI works for me on a custom AOSP CM11 ROM, but I'm on am older, more stable nightly.