which do you prefer and why? Team EOS 4 or No-name CM10.1?
which is faster, more stable and with better battery life?
how about bugs?
sp0r0s said:
which do you prefer and why? Team EOS 4 or No-name CM10.1?
which is faster, more stable and with better battery life?
how about bugs?
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Team EOS 4 of course... stability is assured here.. and with Timburu behind them, it gets even better now.
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Yeah EOS is actually amazing. Blew me away a little. Go for the preview version for now.
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I am using Team EOS4..very smooth and stable without lag.. batteries is good..
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I'm using EOS 4 because I find it virtually flawless when used with Nova. josteink is doing a nice job with his "no-name" too though, and is worth a look if you're a CM fan.
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My "stock" rom, ie stable/maintained/enhanced/feature rich, is EOS since early days of 101. I forgot about Asus' rom, and I'm grateful we got unlock keys for our tablets so early!
As the one maintaining the No-name build, I have to say both are good. And they are different. So it's really just a matter of taste.
Timduru is doing an excellent job with Team EOS 4 and the only reason I'm not using that and instead is maintaining my own build is because I prefer CM-based ROMs.
So I say try both. See which one you like best. You probably wont be disappointed by any of them.
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Yeah EOS is actually amazing. Blew me away a little. Go for the preview version for now.
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why preview version and not the nightly?
does the kernel in EOS works good or should i install kat kernel?
update: nevermind. i'll go for preview with kat kernel.
i am using no-name for a long time now and i think is super. after reading most of the replies here saying about EOS, i will give it a try
Part of the issue is that people (at least myself) have been using EOS for so long that we are kind of entrenched, and EOS4 came out before no-name. Back in the early TF101 JB ROMS, EOS3 had proved to me to be the most fully-functional and stable of the TF101 ROMS, if (maybe) not the smoothest when it came to scrolling through the home screen. I tried them all and I liked them all, but just found EOS the best all-around,
The more recent builds of EOS 4 have been similar for me, very stable, everything that I normally use works fine. Maybe still a very rare screen tear here and there, but no SOD/RR's. I loaded up no-name a few weeks ago and it seemed to work great, but as I was used to my EOS4 set-up, I didn't give it much of an evaluation. It takes me some time to set up my tablet to how I like it, and while it was fun doing so the first 10 times, it's not as much fun as it used to be. I might flash no-name again and see if a data-only nandroid restore of my current set-up works, and give it a more of a run.
The only downside to EOS4 IMO might be that with the nav bar (bottom bar) enabled, home-screen transitions aren't as smooth as I'd expect from jellybean. The plus side is that I learned to stop using the navbar and instead disable it, using LMT pie controls or GMT gestures, both of which work great and allow for more screen real estate. My old TF101 seems to be as fast, smooth and functional as my Nexus 7 or my sister's TF Prime.
These guys have really made my $250 Black Friday tablet into the best bang-for-the-buck gadget I ever bought.
I use the No Name and i like it.
On Team Eos the gapps din't work after 2 installs so i install the no name and everything works best. :good:
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Part of the issue is that people (at least myself) have been using EOS for so long that we are kind of entrenched, and EOS4 came out before no-name. Back in the early TF101 JB ROMS, EOS3 had proved to me to be the most fully-functional and stable of the TF101 ROMS, if (maybe) not the smoothest when it came to scrolling through the home screen. I tried them all and I liked them all, but just found EOS the best all-around,
The more recent builds of EOS 4 have been similar for me, very stable, everything that I normally use works fine. Maybe still a very rare screen tear here and there, but no SOD/RR's. I loaded up no-name a few weeks ago and it seemed to work great, but as I was used to my EOS4 set-up, I didn't give it much of an evaluation. It takes me some time to set up my tablet to how I like it, and while it was fun doing so the first 10 times, it's not as much fun as it used to be. I might flash no-name again and see if a data-only nandroid restore of my current set-up works, and give it a more of a run.
The only downside to EOS4 IMO might be that with the nav bar (bottom bar) enabled, home-screen transitions aren't as smooth as I'd expect from jellybean. The plus side is that I learned to stop using the navbar and instead disable it, using LMT pie controls or GMT gestures, both of which work great and allow for more screen real estate. My old TF101 seems to be as fast, smooth and functional as my Nexus 7 or my sister's TF Prime.
These guys have really made my $250 Black Friday tablet into the best bang-for-the-buck gadget I ever bought.
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Agreed, my tablet now runs better than most new devices with EOS 4. May see some RR if overclocking past 1.4GHz or leaving the SDCARD in the dock when not in use.
semi noobish
Hey guys, semi noob here. I currently have AR on my tablet and i want to upgrade to 4.2. When i started learing to do this i soft bricked my tablet by going from 4.1 to the ARevolution. I would prefer for this not to happen again. So is all i need to do is do a full wipe. then install 4.2 off sd card via CWM? then flash apps etc?
Just follow initial installation intstructions really. And I would recommend using TWRP instead of CWM.
You should install this first, via Goomanager, and when you see that you have that working, you can install this ROM.
Note: if this is the first 4.2 ROM you are installing, beware that you will probably have to do a factory reset to be entirely sure you avoid problems.
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Just follow initial installation intstructions really. And I would recommend using TWRP instead of CWM.
You should install this first, via Goomanager, and when you see that you have that working, you can install this ROM.
Note: if this is the first 4.2 ROM you are installing, beware that you will probably have to do a factory reset to be entirely sure you avoid problems.
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So for some reason i cant "mount sdcard".... Not sure what to do from here...
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So for some reason i cant "mount sdcard".... Not sure what to do from here...
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Not sure where you are in the process... More details?
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Not sure where you are in the process... More details?
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Sorry. I didnt download Goomanager (i am now) basically i had 4.2.2 rom on my sdcard along with gapps. booted into CWM recovery. Wiped data etc, went to instal via sdcard and said that it cant be mounted. IE i can install new room. I can reboot back into my original rom (AR). so i am going to try the goomanager via TWRP
No idea why i couldnt mount sdcard however.
This is one of the reasons twrp is recommended.
It works with both internal and external storage without any nonsense
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Ok i got it. Thank you very much!
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ya that was alot easier. Thanks!
I've used both now and they seem to be the same in terms of speeds
But saying that the speeds are generally rubbish. I've no idea what is going on or if I am expecting too much from this now relatively old tablet and a new OS. Everything seems to lag even on a fresh install.
If the tablet is downloading anything then things grind to a major halt.
I'm pretty sure that ICS wasn't anywhere near as bad as this.
Running games and typing on the keyboard seems to be OK though...just seems to be normal day to day use.
Any ideas ??
Actually now I think about it the slowness only really is visible when there is data flowing. If I turn off WiFi then there doessnt seem to be much sluggishness at all.
Does anyone else get this?
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Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
Are these better for the developers or the users?
I ask because it seems these ROMs dont support things like the dock, asus keyboard, don't have those nice Asus apps or google apps.
I know I can flash gapps but no idea about the rest..
I flashed an AOSP a while ago and found so many things just didnt work so I avoid them now...
It would be good if they could mention in the title if their ROM is AOSP or not.
Maybe I got this all wrong and you're welcome to educate me
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Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
Are these better for the developers or the users?
I ask because it seems these ROMs dont support things like the dock, asus keyboard, don't have those nice Asus apps or google apps.
I know I can flash gapps but no idea about the rest..
I flashed an AOSP a while ago and found so many things just didnt work so I avoid them now...
It would be good if they could mention in the title if their ROM is AOSP or not.
Maybe I got this all wrong and you're welcome to educate me
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AOSP is from android. its the cleanest possible rom u can ever find. its like a fish u just caught and cooked with just a pinch of salt only. probably u wont experience lag and alot of bloatware taken off. asus apps abd google apps you have to dl urself. i find that troublesome too. HAHA! using a custom rom is different tho. that depends on how the dev develop it. if ur happy with stock then stick with it man.
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I would say stick with custom stock at the moment like revolver or frozn but that's just my preference after trying the aosp roms.
Some like aosp better but for me I will wait awhile until there completely stable before I give them a decent try.
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Mmmm fish
I'm using ARHD at the moment but reading through FROZN posts as I really want to try some other ROM...
Danzano said:
I would say stick with custom stock at the moment like revolver or frozn but that's just my preference after trying the aosp roms.
Some like aosp better but for me I will wait awhile until there completely stable before I give them a decent try.
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I've tried both custom stock and AOSP roms and there's no difference in stability.
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I've tried both custom stock and AOSP roms and there's no difference in stability.
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Ok well not so much stability now I guess but bugs there is still a difference I just feel aosp on the transformer is a bit to young on my gt540 I love aosp its rock solid works and has awesome customization's etc
Like I said maybe after some time but for now I say stock custom is best
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Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
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I used Asus' official ICS for about 15 minutes before I decided it was ugly and thrown together quickly.. also comes with a bunch of Asus garbage files in the system partition and a bunch of crappy apps i never use.
I tried EOS and was happy. Now at build #21 its fast, its stable, its got some nice customizations but is otherwise bone stock AOSP ICS, like a Nexus device has.
I also tried AOKP and while I could prefer it in the long run as it is a very slick ROM, but it just doesnt seem as snappy and smooth as EOS at this time.
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I used Asus' official ICS for about 15 minutes before I decided it was ugly and thrown together quickly.. also comes with a bunch of Asus garbage files in the system partition and a bunch of crappy apps i never use.
I tried EOS and was happy. Now at build #21 its fast, its stable, its got some nice customizations but is otherwise bone stock AOSP ICS, like a Nexus device has.
I also tried AOKP and while I could prefer it in the long run as it is a very slick ROM, but it just doesnt seem as snappy and smooth as EOS at this time.
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Does EOS still have the minor lag when scrolling home screens? It's barely perceivable but enough to annoy someone like me. The build I tried was 18 or 19.
Hi, what do you say about CyanogenMod9 ROM? Have you tried it?
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Hi, what do you say about CyanogenMod9 ROM? Have you tried it?
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I was dissatisfied with CM9. The one that I have been using most has been Android Revolution HD 3.1.0 (GPS locks quick, WiFi stable, dock works). Just recently I have dropped FROZN on my TF101 but have been unable to successfully transfer my APK's to it using APK Batch Installer During the process I receive a segmentation fault. So far it has been only with that ROM that I have had this issue with. Aside from that FROZN ROM is fast!! Can't say much about battery life seeing how I just started using it.
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I was dissatisfied with CM9. The one that I have been using most has been Android Revolution HD 3.1.0 (GPS locks quick, WiFi stable, dock works). Just recently I have dropped FROZN on my TF101 but have been unable to successfully transfer my APK's to it using APK Batch Installer During the process I receive a segmentation fault. So far it has been only with that ROM that I have had this issue with. Aside from that FROZN ROM is fast!! Can't say much about battery life seeing how I just started using it.
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Also I'm using last revolution HD with msticninja'kernel and it's very very stable and fast but it's also my first cooked rom (I just bought my TF101 a month ago). Why are you dissatisfied with CM9? Frozn is faster than CM9 and revolution?
thanks
ezechiele25172012 said:
Also I'm using last revolution HD with msticninja'kernel and it's very very stable and fast but it's also my first cooked rom (I just bought my TF101 a month ago). Why are you dissatisfied with CM9? Frozn is faster than CM9 and revolution?
thanks
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These custom ROMS vary in benchmarks but there really is no perceivable difference in speed with normal usage. They are all faster and more optimized than the stock Asus ICS.
I have been using first Helly bean as my first JB ROM. Though it was claimed that it was fast, I never realized the speed. The UI/bowser/almost every think was lagging. Next I tried CM10 the same story... first it feels fast by as time progress the same lag.
Today I installed LANIGHT. It is really fast.... unbelievably fast. I didn't know android on cappy can be this fast.
What other ROMs do you guys use are equally or better?
I'm giving it a look now.
I use Helly Bean and it is very fast with some slight lag when changing between apps, I imagine due to the apps using resources. App drawer and launcher are smooth.
My only issue is the datadata folder, only 172MB and it fills up right away. Even clearing cache and uninstalling the biggest apps, more stuff just comes in and takes up that free space.
May have to try a non datadata ROM but a user in the Lanight thread said the no datadata ROMs use 430MB partitions but they fill up even faster, so I'm not sure what my best option is for speed.
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I'm giving it a look now.
I use Helly Bean and it is very fast with some slight lag when changing between apps, I imagine due to the apps using resources. App drawer and launcher are smooth.
My only issue is the datadata folder, only 172MB and it fills up right away. Even clearing cache and uninstalling the biggest apps, more stuff just comes in and takes up that free space.
May have to try a non datadata ROM but a user in the Lanight thread said the no datadata ROMs use 430MB partitions but they fill up even faster, so I'm not sure what my best option is for speed.
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That was me... :cyclops:
Anyway... I can concur with the speed of this rom (LANight v2). I was a long time TeamNyx ICS RC5 user and I wanted a little change. Debated and decided to try CM10... what a mistake (no offense to anyone... expecially the CM team). I know it is still in development but my experience was not good at all. I spent a whole 3 hours or so trying to figure out a way to make it work but nothing... it was not usable. I blamed the lag on the no datadata that the CM10 uses... so... back to an ICS rom. CM9 which uses datadata was wonderful... and stable... but reading through the LANight threads... I had to try. so with a lot of hesitation, I loaded the no datadata version... and I was so surprised!!! compared to CM10 and other roms with datadata fixes... it was flying!
Until I realized it's limitations that is... Like I said on the other thread, it seems that eventhough you start out with a larger partition, the fact that now everything is stored here (app & data) Vs. just the passing by data on datadata roms, it sort of defeats the purpose of having the larger space.
Anyway, I still am not dissapointed at the rom. I think the dev has done a fantastic job! It's just since not having datadata doesn't offer any greater freedom to load apps on these devices, I think I will keep this for a while and maybe try LANight's datadata rom. Because this one, flies in comparison to CM10... (but I notice some minor lag here and there)... I think if this one is this good, I have hopes that the datadata version would be even smoother...
Please let me know if this assumption is accurate...
Running aokp kang build 4 with Nova launcher no problems getting it installed using their guides.
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cloudreader said:
I have been using first Helly bean as my first JB ROM. Though it was claimed that it was fast, I never realized the speed. The UI/bowser/almost every think was lagging. Next I tried CM10 the same story... first it feels fast by as time progress the same lag.
Today I installed LANIGHT. It is really fast.... unbelievably fast. I didn't know android on cappy can be this fast.
What other ROMs do you guys use are equally or better?
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The new MonfroAOSP is equally as impressive. I've used both extensively and can vouch for either :thumbup:
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Hellybean is the best one still the moment, and another best one is they are always been updated day by day. +1
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Using slimbean and it's much faster than helly
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I am using CM10 Nightly. When I first flashed it, it was real laggy. But I just reflashed it, and it works really well. Very fast, and as far as I can tell, its very stable. Maybe try flashing CM10 twice ? That's what worked for me anyway.
Any CM10 based ROM post about 9/13 has become SUPER fast, and just recently this last week all of them started using the LV setup for /data allowing about 3 times as much space for data with no sacrifice in snappiness.
very impressive. IMO the Captivate with these roms runs faster than a stock SGS 2, with touchwiz cluttering crap up.
i am newly using slimbean and like it alot except for a camera issue. (where is it) ucam for now. i tired jellyui miui awhile back but despite the beautiful black sexiness it was laggy for me. I am curious why there is so many different experiences with similar setups around here. same fone same rom different battery life... etc etc...
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Using slimbean and it's much faster than helly
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Exactly my thoughts. Helly lagged on my cappy but Slimbean really is impressive.
LLanight v6.5 DD
Im in the edge of switching from CM9 to some JB Rom, But Im still a bit insecure about it, cause I like stable versions, This phone is the only one I have, and I don't like to be dealing with bugs and major issues, So Can anyone really using this phone with Helly Bean or Slimbean, tell me how stable is? BTW This Roms are official stable versions? or they are still at testing level?
Slim bean . Awesome ROM and so far quite stable. No guarantee tho.
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Slim bean . Awesome ROM and so far quite stable. No guarantee tho.
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I haven't tried the recent helly's but i can confirm slim bean and lanight are both super snappy. Lanight has less features and just like every other ROM I've flashed since 2010 is buggy but has workarounds.
Use AceofSpades90's X-bean port in my opinion its better than his LANight Rom. Now im just waiting for v2 to come out Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863927
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Slim bean . Awesome ROM and so far quite stable. No guarantee tho.
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Thanks for the suggestion, and yeah, I've been reading a lot of good things about that ROM, of course some people with issues too... I'm not that expert about flashing roms yet, but I suppose while I keep my nandroid backups I can go back if I screw something up, thanks to Odin too...
I can't post in SlimBean Post because of my few posts (Just entering to this new world of Captivate and Flashing), and I read something about the need to flash a Modem for SlimBean, or that, SlimBean takes the modem of the current rom you are using, and since I'm using CM9, Will I need to flash a modem or SlimBean should automatically use the one I have now? I don't even know what modem I'm using :S
I hope not to bother you guys, and Thanks in advance!
Helly Bean has been a real trooper for me. I've updated it to nearly every version that has come out.
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Thanks for the suggestion, and yeah, I've been reading a lot of good things about that ROM, of course some people with issues too... I'm not that expert about flashing roms yet, but I suppose while I keep my nandroid backups I can go back if I screw something up, thanks to Odin too...
I can't post in SlimBean Post because of my few posts (Just entering to this new world of Captivate and Flashing), and I read something about the need to flash a Modem for SlimBean, or that, SlimBean takes the modem of the current rom you are using, and since I'm using CM9, Will I need to flash a modem or SlimBean should automatically use the one I have now? I don't even know what modem I'm using :S
I hope not to bother you guys, and Thanks in advance!
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Meh, just download the ROM from the thread, follow the instructions. Modems can be downloaded herehttp://soggycashew.weebly.com/cm7miui--ics-modems.html. Just flash the modem after you flash the ROM of your choice. Let the ROM load and then in recovery, flash modem like you would a ROM or a kernel. Profit from jb goodness. Personally, I'm diggin the AOSP ROM's ATM because of the speeeeeeed
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Hi, I wish I could ask about this in the developer's thread, but I have no rights there. So, maybe some can shed some light: I installed Slim Bean 2.6 a few days ago, doing Heimdall to stock and using CM10 as a stopgap rom to get bootloaders. Everything installed fine and works great except one thing: the phone spontaneously reboots into recovery. Sometimes once a day, sometimes twice an hour. It is a problem because one in recovery it just sits there, eats battery and waits for me, so if the phone is in the pocket, I am missing calls, emails and etc. Any suggestions where I could dig a bit to find the cause?
Want to find the smoothest rom/kernel combo that will function PROPERLY and without the random reboots, SODs and lockups. On JB Cyan 10's latest stable right now, and for christmas my wife got me a dock so that will come into play as well. Which rom would be recommended for these necessities?
Also, NTFS will need to work properly, as I'll be plugging my usb drives up a good deal for transferring. Some are NTFS some Fat32. Also, I have a HDMI mini to reg HDMI converter I'd like to use to put movies on the big screen at the house. Please keep these in consideration when pushing a rom
Okay, like you, I have Mini HDMI, NTFS and the Dock.
At the moment I am using EOS4 preview 88 with KAT kernel #70, and I must say this combo probably won't be the best for you just yet...
My only experiences are with Stock ROM rooted, EOS3 #81 (both KAT Kernel 69 and RaymanFX's kernels) and EOS4 with KAT (current) so I can't say that much.
If you curious or willing to make the jump for Jelly Bean, I managed to test NTFS support on EOS3/KAT and it's just fine, and dock compatibility is just perfect, haven't tested HDMI yet though. on EOS4 the dock is a bit dodgy...
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Okay, like you, I have Mini HDMI, NTFS and the Dock.
At the moment I am using EOS4 preview 88 with KAT kernel #70, and I must say this combo probably won't be the best for you just yet...
My only experiences are with Stock ROM rooted, EOS3 #81 (both KAT Kernel 69 and RaymanFX's kernels) and EOS4 with KAT (current) so I can't say that much.
If you curious or willing to make the jump for Jelly Bean, I managed to test NTFS support on EOS3/KAT and it's just fine, and dock compatibility is just perfect, haven't tested HDMI yet though. on EOS4 the dock is a bit dodgy...
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Thanks! i'll happily give those a try. is there any other recommendations from anyone? Does cm9 function correctly?
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Okay, like you, I have Mini HDMI, NTFS and the Dock.
At the moment I am using EOS4 preview 88 with KAT kernel #70, and I must say this combo probably won't be the best for you just yet...
My only experiences are with Stock ROM rooted, EOS3 #81 (both KAT Kernel 69 and RaymanFX's kernels) and EOS4 with KAT (current) so I can't say that much.
If you curious or willing to make the jump for Jelly Bean, I managed to test NTFS support on EOS3/KAT and it's just fine, and dock compatibility is just perfect, haven't tested HDMI yet though. on EOS4 the dock is a bit dodgy...
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I agree 100%. The best ROM ever was EOS #81 with KAT kernel 69. The most fast, smooth and stable ROM ever!!!!!
Now I am on EOS 4 build #84 with stock EOS kernel. It is good but it is not yet the best. It will be in the future because Timduru and Rayman are the best devs for our device.
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I agree 100%. The best ROM ever was EOS #81 with KAT kernel 69. The most fast, smooth and stable ROM ever!!!!!
Now I am on EOS 4 build #84 with stock EOS kernel. It is good but it is not yet the best. It will be in the future because Timduru and Rayman are the best devs for our device.
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Ok so I'm on eos 81 with kat 69.. One problem I've encountered and I'm not sure if its a problem or i've just gone full retard(tropic thunder reference ) but I only see one battery icon at bottom, with my percentage when connected to my dock whereas previously there were two, one indicating transformer battery percentage and one indicating dock percentage. is this normal? is the percentage listed with both dock and transformer or what?
Thanks
Drew
Okay guys, Team EOS4 #88 is out now and is ready for daily use =] I’ve been following their previews since 82 and I think they reach a stable enough point on their 4.2 Jelly Bean ROM as well.
So for those looking for a 4.2 usable rom, EOS4#88 with Kat Kernel 70 and gapps 20121212 is just perfect ;-]
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Okay guys, Team EOS4 #88 is out now and is ready for daily use =] I’ve been following their previews since 82 and I think they reach a stable enough point on their 4.2 Jelly Bean ROM as well.
So for those looking for a 4.2 usable rom, EOS4#88 with Kat Kernel 70 and gapps 20121212 is just perfect ;-]
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With #88 i lost my agenda, went back to b106 and back is the agenda.
leomeloxp said:
Okay guys, Team EOS4 #88 is out now and is ready for daily use =] I’ve been following their previews since 82 and I think they reach a stable enough point on their 4.2 Jelly Bean ROM as well.
So for those looking for a 4.2 usable rom, EOS4#88 with Kat Kernel 70 and gapps 20121212 is just perfect ;-]
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I am glad to here that you use as daily driver. I am using it too. But our friend is asking about something stable. It is too early for 4.2 builds.
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kingofyo1 said:
Ok so I'm on eos 81 with kat 69.. One problem I've encountered and I'm not sure if its a problem or i've just gone full retard(tropic thunder reference ) but I only see one battery icon at bottom, with my percentage when connected to my dock whereas previously there were two, one indicating transformer battery percentage and one indicating dock percentage. is this normal? is the percentage listed with both dock and transformer or what?
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Drew
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You could try Dual Battery Widget
I am also looking for rock solid stability, but it would be nice to have a JB rom. I also use dock, hdmi and NTFS.
I just came from EOS 3 #81 w/ their kernel and went ahead and flashed #88 yesterday and to my surpise this am, discovered that they went ahead and released #89. So right now I'm running EOS 4 #89 with KAT kernel 70, and I gotta say that it's pretty stable aside from the software keyboard workaround. It's way too soon to report any SOD or random reboots though. EOS 3 #81 rebooted about once every 48 hours for me but other than that it was extremely stable.
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I just came from EOS 3 #81 w/ their kernel and went ahead and flashed #88 yesterday and to my surpise this am, discovered that they went ahead and released #89. So right now I'm running EOS 4 #89 with KAT kernel 70, and I gotta say that it's pretty stable aside from the software keyboard workaround. It's way too soon to report any SOD or random reboots though. EOS 3 #81 rebooted about once every 48 hours for me but other than that it was extremely stable.
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I double what you say here, I updated to #89 as well. This time with a full system/data/factory reset wipe and everything is as smooth as ever.
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I am also looking for rock solid stability, but it would be nice to have a JB rom. I also use dock, hdmi and NTFS.
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I haven’t played around with ICS roms besides the stock one, but to be fair, I don’t see any more solid stability than what eos3 and 4 (specially 4) has to offer. The only thing is, since JB 4.2 stills a bit fresh, some things might not be fully working. But for your case...
From my experience, dock on eos4#89 is fully functional, I use it with spanish_us layout and have NO COMPLAINTS at all at the moment. For hdmi I can’t personally tell, but seem reports of people saying it works so you might to give it a shot. I’m just not fully confident on the NTFS as there seems to be some problems with mounting usb devices or dock SD, but I don’t know the extent of your use, so this might be a big let down for you for now.
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I just came from EOS 3 #81 w/ their kernel and went ahead and flashed #88 yesterday and to my surpise this am, discovered that they went ahead and released #89. So right now I'm running EOS 4 #89 with KAT kernel 70, and I gotta say that it's pretty stable aside from the software keyboard workaround. It's way too soon to report any SOD or random reboots though. EOS 3 #81 rebooted about once every 48 hours for me but other than that it was extremely stable.
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I am still running EOS3 #81 with KAT 69, and things are quite stable. Is there an advantage to going with EOS4 #89 (other than just the satisfaction of running latest and greatest?). I am a bit reluctant to disrupt this island of stability, unless, of course, there is a concrete gain to be had
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I am still running EOS3 #81 with KAT 69, and things are quite stable. Is there an advantage to going with EOS4 #89 (other than just the satisfaction of running latest and greatest?). I am a bit reluctant to disrupt this island of stability, unless, of course, there is a concrete gain to be had
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Honestly I would stay on #81 for a bit longer if you have the same stability that I have had. There are a few bugs that still need worked out with the latest EOS 4 build. One is the software keyboard disappears randomly while trying to type, but they do have a workaround in the thread for that. Another one that I have noticed is that after a long sleep, the tablet doesn't recognize the HW keyboard without being redocked. I know petty quirks but the main issue is that it seems slightly sluggish compared to EOS 3 build #81, which they are also aware of. If stability is what you are after I'd wait a few more builds, but if you want to take the plunge than it's definitely ready for daily use.
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Honestly I would stay on #81 for a bit longer if you have the same stability that I have had. There are a few bugs that still need worked out with the latest EOS 4 build. One is the software keyboard disappears randomly while trying to type, but they do have a workaround in the thread for that. Another one that I have noticed is that after a long sleep, the tablet doesn't recognize the HW keyboard without being redocked. I know petty quirks but the main issue is that it seems slightly sluggish compared to EOS 3 build #81, which they are also aware of. If stability is what you are after I'd wait a few more builds, but if you want to take the plunge than it's definitely ready for daily use.
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I double what you said. I'm currently on EOS4 and doing just fine, but I do know of some funny problems around specially regarding NTFS and USB drives. By no means EOS4 is bad, but for those who prior stability over everything else, it is indeed worth waiting maybe a couple more builds or so.
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i am running the last updated "nightly" build of cm10. it works without much of an issue at all. i haven't changed the kernel at all, kept it stock. volume is fine, dock does everything it's supposed to, etc. i WAS getting random reboots when overclocking to the max, but i just went down one level and now it's fine. other than that, not a single issue with it. beautiful, gorgeous rom. quick and responsive enough to even run go launcher on....no device i have ever had hasn't lagged with go launcher installed until this one. even with email, facebook, news reader, clock, to do list, search, music player, and power widgets all running, it's still smooth as butter. i have always loved the look of go launcher and the variety of the gazillions of themes out there for it and whatnot, but have never kept it more than a day because of the lag it creates. now its a problem of the past.
I actualyl just got around to checking out this NTFS/USB drive issue that I read about in the EOS 4 thread but the drive worked perfectly for me. I didn't try writing to it but I copied files from my computer to the drive then copied over to the tablet and it worked fine.
I'm actually really eager to check out the most recent builds of CM 10.1 for our device. It's kinda crazy that it came out so fast since the TF101 is so old. It'll probably be the next one i flash once I get back into the flashing mood.
EDIT: just got introduced to the NTFS bug. I must have used a thumb drive that was formatted with FAT32 earlier.
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Honestly I would stay on #81 for a bit longer if you have the same stability that I have had. There are a few bugs that still need worked out with the latest EOS 4 build. One is the software keyboard disappears randomly while trying to type, but they do have a workaround in the thread for that. Another one that I have noticed is that after a long sleep, the tablet doesn't recognize the HW keyboard without being redocked. I know petty quirks but the main issue is that it seems slightly sluggish compared to EOS 3 build #81, which they are also aware of. If stability is what you are after I'd wait a few more builds, but if you want to take the plunge than it's definitely ready for daily use.
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I double what you said. I'm currently on EOS4 and doing just fine, but I do know of some funny problems around specially regarding NTFS and USB drives. By no means EOS4 is bad, but for those who prior stability over everything else, it is indeed worth waiting maybe a couple more builds or so.
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Thanks for your opinions, Ralkkai and leomeloxp! One question though: What advantages (e.g., extra features) do you get with the EOS4 software, vs. the EOS3 on the TF101?
The main advantage for EOS 4 over EOS 3 is that EOS 4 is built on the latest release of Jelly Bean(4.2). Other than that it doesn't have any random reboot issues or sleep of death issues that 3 had. 4 has the ability to use widgets on the lockscreen. It has the latest software for the camera, with Photosphere which is kinda fun to play with. It does however come with the "Phablet" UI so its got the navbar at the bottom and the status bar at the top and the navbar buttons are in the middle of the screen by default. I'm more fond of the layout in EOS 3 which is almost identical to stock. Other than that they are fairly similar. Some people report EOS 4 running super smooth but I felt that 3 had an overall more complete feel to it.
I will say that the current build of EOS 4 does grow on you the more you use it. Like instead of the buttery smoothness that some people mention when sliding through home screens, this one tends to glide through them. Hard to explain lol
I am planning to give the tf101 to my mother to use it mainly as an e-book reader and some surfing the web, can you please tell me if ICS roms or JB roms have better battery life?
The table twill be used mainly as an ebook reader, some internet, wifi on 24/7 (approximately), sometimes 3g, some picture taking and album browsing and some music.
Thanks
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I am planning to give the tf101 to my mother to use it mainly as an e-book reader and some surfing the web, can you please tell me if ICS roms or JB roms have better battery life?
The table twill be used mainly as an ebook reader, some internet, wifi on 24/7 (approximately), sometimes 3g, some picture taking and album browsing and some music.
Thanks
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I would recommend ICS if your primary use will be ereader. JB has been a bit heavier on the battery usage for me.
I've had this tablet since Christmas, got it with the keyboard dock and a Poetic case for work (journalism) hoping that it would entirely replace my laptop, which was a beater since my other one broke. Since using it I've overall loved the experience, but I do have a number of gripes.
The Good:
- Keyboard is equally as impressive as any laptop I've used. Responsive, ensures that I can continue to be productive while on the go.
- Battery life is unreal
- Speaker quality equals or betters that of an iPad, hands down.
- For being plastic, the build quality of this thing is awesome.
- ASUS has been nothing but supportive, ensuring that my device is unlocked quickly and under warranty.
- Plays the occasional game well and loads them pretty quickly
- The USB and HDMI outlets, while I haven't used them extensively, are going to come in handy.
- Charges extremely fast
The Bad:
- I can never find the power button in tablet mode. It's ergonomically terrible. And when docked, there's no button to press to turn the screen on quickly (that I know of)
- Despite coming preloaded with JB, this thing lags worse than my HTC Sensation. It's not rooted, but out of the box it lags. Takes like ten seconds to open up Google Now for pete's sake.
- Browser crashes all the time
- Proprietary cable is way too short and proprietary cables blow
- Internet browsing is laggy and slow to load more often than not
- Trackpad on the dock is the worst on any keyboard I've ever used in terms of responsiveness and random touches
- Rooting seems complicated
- The screen is not as sharp or as bright as I expected
Overall: B+
It's more than I could ever expect out of a tablet, to be honest. I probably should have sprung for an UltraBook for my needs, but this will be fun in the meantime. This may be my first tablet, but I can assure you that every tablet I buy from here on out will come with a keyboard. It has given me a good idea of what to look for in a tablet and I really do enjoy using it over any other device I've owned aside from my phone. For all it's specs, performance isn't where it should be, but I have a sneaky suspicion once I root this thing there may still be hope for solving all this lag.
What would you grade this tablet? What are your likes? Dislikes? I'm curious to find out about everyone else's experiences with the 300, and perhaps some helpful advice. Thanks!
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When stock I would say a 6/7 out of 10. Its slow, browser crashes and espesially after Jelly Bean update i decided to unlock and root cause it was a pain to use sometimes. Also alot of problems while typing. Whole sentences are suddenly gone, autocorrect is horrible and anyoing, and sometimes even freezes while im writig.
With Custom ROMs i would say a 8 out of 10. Alot faster and smoother than stock.
Imo, the screen is very good. Compared to TF101, colors are better and brighter.
Buying Quad Core cpu I expected, that EVERY game will run smoothly. I bought Dark Knight and ... zonk, lags everywhere. I thought my Tegra 3 is broken
ok so I agree 1000%. I rooted mine, installed cm10 (not 10.1 yet) along with untermensh's kernel and its freaking lightning fast. it was maybe a C- before. Now it is a solid A!
Even my critical impatient wife loves the tab now.
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ok so I agree 1000%. I rooted mine, installed cm10 (not 10.1 yet) along with untermensh's kernel and its freaking lightning fast. it was maybe a C- before. Now it is a solid A!
Even my critical impatient wife loves the tab now.
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I guess the solution to everything is to root it (as usual). If it gets rid of some of the annoying lag then I'm all for it, because if there's one thing I value over any other feature, it's stability
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monkor said:
I guess the solution to everything is to root it (as usual). If it gets rid of some of the annoying lag then I'm all for it, because if there's one thing I value over any other feature, it's stability
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yea. its sad that we need to void warranties to make the tab perform the way it should have when stock but it is what it is....
Are there any noob guides to root and install a custom ROM on this tablet? I think i may just have to do so to improve the performance as it's terrible at times. I'm on the latest jellybean update by Asus
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Are there any noob guides to root and install a custom ROM on this tablet? I think i may just have to do so to improve the performance as it's terrible at times. I'm on the latest jellybean update by Asus
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
Exactly what you need
I'd give this thing a 5 out of 10 on stock. Rooted and with agps flashed and apps to SD its a 11 out of 10. I run clean ROM 3.0.4 and unters 4.4.20 kernal and as I've said before it makes all the difference in the world on this machine. The screen is good but the infinity screen is better however I prefer this to all other tabs currently marketed except Samsung note 10.1 but the note isn't optimized for tegra games so all in all this one won me over
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
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Thank you.
conan1600 said:
I'd give this thing a 5 out of 10 on stock. Rooted and with agps flashed and apps to SD its a 11 out of 10. I run clean ROM 3.0.4 and unters 4.4.20 kernal and as I've said before it makes all the difference in the world on this machine. The screen is good but the infinity screen is better however I prefer this to all other tabs currently marketed except Samsung note 10.1 but the note isn't optimized for tegra games so all in all this one won me over
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Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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It makes so much of a difference on mine I could never concieve of loading the stock ROM again. The stock has serious I/o issues bud not to mention all the other crap. Now don't get me wrong there is a down side. On jelly bean u have to unlock so u lose your warranty and that's a risk. It is also a lot of work to install all the ROMs and patches and the first time on any device will scare the bejesus outta any man but when its done, at least for me, its a thing of beauty on this machine in particular. I'd did a lot of research before I got started and finally took the plunge. Course I've done this on several devices but every time is stressful lol. Good luck man for the benchmark scores on my machine just look at the poor androbench scores thread in this section. I just posted pics there that will show you how much of a difference it makes when you root and rom
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P.S. you mentioned lag so I'll let you know browser to ram after you root takes care of that in browsing and as you can see from the screenshots in the other thread the I/o is fixed and or gone around after root and custom ROM installed.
Thanks for the informative reply. I usually use chrome though so I don't think browser2ram will work for that or so I've read.
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UndisputedGuy said:
Thank you.
Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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Yes.
3/10
I've been regretting this purchase since after 1 month of owning it, that why a few months ago I was pretty active on this forum asking questions but since the day I figured out this tablet is what I should not have purchased, I stopped browsing this forum.
I was so sad because I saved my money for months to buy this tablet and what I got wasn't what I expected.
Like you said, this thing lags like crazy, it's because of the I/O issue I believe. Games run laggy, cuz they need to read/write a lot. Copying 100MB takes 10 minutes. I waited for years for it to copy mmy music library to this tablet. Forget about browsing the Web,
I even thought this is an issue with android and I thought I will not ever buy an android device again, until my sister got the galaxy s3 and it's damn fast
Maybe I'll leave a review someday, but basically this tablet is very good, except for the fact that Asus put a cheap slow flash storage in it. If not, I'd rate it 8/10 if there's no i/O issue,
Asus has been known for putting slow flash storage in their devices from the tf201, tf300, even the flagship tf700, and even though the nexus 7 has a faster flash storage that transformers, it's still very slow compared to other tablets.
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I have to agree with other comments here, the stock rom is a piece of crap. Not being able to browse on the stock browser WTF ? I've said this before but Asus REALLY needs to fix their stock rom. If the ROMS from here can make the tablet fly then why can't Asus do it?
I had my tablet for 6 months and only unlocked and flashed TWRP with Cleanroom in the last week. I've now used the tablet more in the last week than I had in the previous 6 months, it's made such a difference. I now enjoy using the tablet rather than wanting to throw it against the wall :silly:
I bought mine with the keyboard dock, it makes the tablet more versatile extends the battery life and with a wireless mouse is almost a notebook / netbook replacement.
I notice the OP wrote the proprietary cable is too short.... you can pick up a 2m cable on eBay or Amazon really cheap, mine was delivered last week. Though the proprietary cable does blow, from what I've read it allows the tablet to be charged quicker than a normal usb cable (please correct me if I am wrong).
Stock rom: 3 out of 10 (Slow, hangs, browser crashes.... piece of crap)
Cleanrom: 10 out of 10 (Everything works perfectly now)
Perhaps the wrong thread but what browser do you guys use on this ROM? I like stock ROM so so much but it doesnt work half the time. Like it doesn't load pages or the back button doesn't return me. Also it can use flash!
I'm gonna start to try use chrome but I like the progress bar. I tried dolphin browser but its not like a conventional browser, doesn't have a back button etc.
Firefox doesn't have an easy add tab button. Same with Opera, don't think its that nippy, hangs n lags.
I found Opera Mobile worked best on the stock rom
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Perhaps the wrong thread but what browser do you guys use on this ROM? I like stock ROM so so much but it doesnt work half the time. Like it doesn't load pages or the back button doesn't return me. Also it can use flash!
I'm gonna start to try use chrome but I like the progress bar. I tried dolphin browser but its not like a conventional browser, doesn't have a back button etc.
Firefox doesn't have an easy add tab button. Same with Opera, don't think its that nippy, hangs n lags.
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i use stock browser on cromi 3.0.4 it works exactly as it should with no lags and flash is smooth.
UndisputedGuy said:
Thank you.
Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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I'm on CleanROM 3.0.4 and it's awesome. Sure you'll see difference
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Thanks to everyone in this thread who has helped. I think I will move onto cleanrom after my tablet goes into repairs. Do apps perform better on cleanrom as well? Such as chrome and other things
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I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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CROMi-X obviously
Try a few out though - see what you think.
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Wait a few weeks and you may not have to decide! sbdags and _that are continuing to work on ROM2SD for CROMi-X! Run his rom on internal and another rom on your microSD. Already works for CROMi-X, miniCROMi-X, but CM is coming - I can feel it
Linux is where the real funs at
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Linux is where the real funs at
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If only I had the time to study.....:crying:
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
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sjgieson said:
Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
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You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
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I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
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Wow, thanks for the good explanation... What I said was just my opinion, I hope that you are not offended..
Also, there is a trim supported on Cromi X but that would depend on the version of the kernel. You can ask _that or sbdags to help you mount it if it is not currently mounting as an option...
Good luck...:fingers-crossed:
Nope no offense taken! As you had a point .
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
The only time I experience a crashing application is with boat browser. I leave the setting for flash set to always on and flash itself isn't a clean application. That is what causes my tablet to force close the app. I've not experienced the rebooting that I did running pure stock Asus firmware either and it otherwise runs perfect.
Maybe try using one of _that's OC kernals. While not as fast as hunds, they are stable and still offer a greater experience than stock. I haven't found needed to use the 1.8ghz performance mode in his kernals and for my needs the balanced setting at 1.3ghz works fine. The extra boost is there if needed.
Speed doesn't mean you will have the best user experience from the tablet. While hardware specs are meant to be the same for all TF700s, each component is different due to the manufacturing process for each tablet assembled. The CPU/components in your tablet may not play nice with hunds kernal.
a very good one
try cmbroms running 4.3.1 but very close to building 4.4 weekly updates and there great love it. if you have any question there team is very fast to respond http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=47629521:cowboy:
I have been running Cromi-X 5.1 for a few weeks now and it works great.
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were running cmbroms over here and loving it i hear from up the grapevine there getting kitkate soon so will be getting 4.4.1 cant wait the 4.3.1 is solid as a rock and i build them myself on my linix machine loving it
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-X will be a good option. I think it give you more freedom to install what you want a bit more flexible.
sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button. Lastly and the worst, Google Now and Google Now Launcher are very unpleasant to use, freezes on the opening and lags almost on the entire time.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
Anggrian said:
Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
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Would you like to try my Extreme Tweaks, ET? Give it a shot and tell us what you think...:laugh:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
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Anggrian said:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Actually, it is a part of the Cromi X v5.4. It is working fine with Cromi X ROM only and never test with other ROMs. It is running perfectly fine with all of my testers except one that he had a weird waking up issue....