Hi,
I own my galaxy tab 2 since almost 2 years. Moved to CM 10.2 pretty quickly to improve it's reactivity, and it worked very nice for a while... until lags and delays to respond came back, months ago. It now takes some time to switch between apps, or to show/hide the keyboard, to type something.... Happens also during surf (firefox mobile - i use tabs extensively), sometimes causing crash. I moved to CM11 but that did not really solved the problem.
I believe GT2 is not the latest powerful on the market and newer ones would perform much better... but i'd like to try make that GT2 serves a bit longer, since i don't have that much high needs except surfing and reading.
I managed to find answers until then, now i'm a bit stucked. So as you'd guess, any suggestions would be welcomed
Jefbyos said:
Hi,
I own my galaxy tab 2 since almost 2 years. Moved to CM 10.2 pretty quickly to improve it's reactivity, and it worked very nice for a while... until lags and delays to respond came back, months ago. It now takes some time to switch between apps, or to show/hide the keyboard, to type something.... Happens also during surf (firefox mobile - i use tabs extensively), sometimes causing crash. I moved to CM11 but that did not really solved the problem.
I believe GT2 is not the latest powerful on the market and newer ones would perform much better... but i'd like to try make that GT2 serves a bit longer, since i don't have that much high needs except surfing and reading.
I managed to find answers until then, now i'm a bit stucked. So as you'd guess, any suggestions would be welcomed
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Try SlimKat or SlimLP
Cleaning
Jefbyos said:
Hi,
I own my galaxy tab 2 since almost 2 years. Moved to CM 10.2 pretty quickly to improve it's reactivity, and it worked very nice for a while... until lags and delays to respond came back, months ago. It now takes some time to switch between apps, or to show/hide the keyboard, to type something.... Happens also during surf (firefox mobile - i use tabs extensively), sometimes causing crash. I moved to CM11 but that did not really solved the problem.
I believe GT2 is not the latest powerful on the market and newer ones would perform much better... but i'd like to try make that GT2 serves a bit longer, since i don't have that much high needs except surfing and reading.
I managed to find answers until then, now i'm a bit stucked. So as you'd guess, any suggestions would be welcomed
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First of all don't expect much from this tablet .. i have it also and it has a modest hardware compared to modern tablets today.
On mine, I can tell you that am using OmniRom From XDA based on android kitkat 4.4.4 and it's working very well with me. Try to clean the junk files and boost your tablet using CM- Clean Master
Hope that migh help
Elbadri1 said:
First of all don't expect much from this tablet .. i have it also and it has a modest hardware compared to modern tablets today.
On mine, I can tell you that am using OmniRom From XDA based on android kitkat 4.4.4 and it's working very well with me. Try to clean the junk files and boost your tablet using CM- Clean Master
Hope that migh help
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I (and several other people) have had issues with Clean Master and similar apps. I do not recommend it.
jrc2 > I took a quick look on slimroms and it looks nice. Dark is my color (ideal to save battery), and the embedded privacy guard is a feature that i'm very interrested in... (I use LBE, which is fine but i thought maybe it slows the system a bit)
Elbadri1 > OmniRom, why not ? Looks close to my current CM experience, and i read it's very stable. I could not find if that rom have also an app manager (privacy guard), do you know ?
I'm less sure about the cleaner tool, i prefer to avoid such apps usually...
Hi guys,
About the app it just was recommended to me by the Motorola customer services for my moto g 2 which had a problem with the internal memory. I usually use it for a quik clean and then uninstall it. Can you please post a link for the issues it's interesting cause i didn't like it at the first but since the customer services recommended it i though that it might be ok to use it.
About the privacy guard i really don't know but i can manage some of the app permissions (not all of them) and chosse to give it access or not. I posted photos for you but am not sure if it's what you need. Anyway can't u just install it after the rom?
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Hi guys,
About the app it just was recommended to me by the Motorola customer services for my moto g 2 which had a problem with the internal memory. I usually use it for a quik clean and then uninstall it. Can you please post a link for the issues it's interesting cause i didn't like it at the first but since the customer services recommended it i though that it might be ok to use it.
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It is mostly useless anyway. Recent Android is really good at ram and storage optimization and some tests have shown that it can in fact slow down your phone. If it works for you, great!
jrc2 said:
It is mostly useless anyway. Recent Android is really good at ram and storage optimization and some tests have shown that it can in fact slow down your phone. If it works for you, great!
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Yeah i had the same feeling at the beginning but i had some sort of fake storage size and using the app helped to put everything in it's place.. Motorola clamied that it's due to a lot of junk files but actually when i deleted this junk using the app the problem is solved and that happened on 5.0. 2 android version :/ anyway thanks for your answer maybe it just helped in my case
Hi Elbadri1
Thanks for taking time to send those pictures, much appreciated. Indeed it's pretty much the feature i'm looking for. Looks like it don't gives you control on each app's permission, as LBE does, but it's a start. I guess there's no problem reinstalling LBE if i need deeper control (or if i miss the ad blocker)
I'm still looking at SlimKat/SlimLP, and that feature seemed to gives you control on each permission.
Jefbyos said:
Hi Elbadri1
Thanks for taking time to send those pictures, much appreciated. Indeed it's pretty much the feature i'm looking for. Looks like it don't gives you control on each app's permission, as LBE does, but it's a start. I guess there's no problem reinstalling LBE if i need deeper control (or if i miss the ad blocker)
I'm still looking at SlimKat/SlimLP, and that feature seemed to gives you control on each permission.
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There is an Xposed module called 'App Settings' that allows you to control each permission.
Hi all,
SlimLP is very smooth but i didn't have much time to test it cause there is a VPN bug and I can't go online without VPN cause i use my university connection about the Xposed module it's so nice that there is something like this i didn't know about it and i need it for my tablet and my phone.. Thanks jrc2
Elbadri1 said:
Hi all,
SlimLP is very smooth but i didn't have much time to test it cause there is a VPN bug and I can't go online without VPN cause i use my university connection about the Xposed module it's so nice that there is something like this i didn't know about it and i need it for my tablet and my phone.. Thanks jrc2
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For future reference, put a @ before a user name so that I know when I am mentioned. So for example, to mention me say @jrc2.
Oki @jrc2 thank you so much
Elbadri1 said:
Oki @jrc2 thank you so much
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No problem! Here is the link for App Settings. It does much more than permission revoking. You may want to check out all of it's features.
http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.robv.android.xposed.mods.appsettings
If your problem is solved, remember to add "[SOLVED]" to the beginning of the thread title.
jrc2
I finally moved to SlimKat 4.4.4 Dhollmen yesterday, as i saw positive feedbacks on that one about stability. Nice ROM indeed, very fast to install, very responsive. I have to say there's improvement on my issues : switching between apps is faster (not immediate though, but way better), and the keyboard show/hides pretty much immediately as expected. This SlimKat installation is young, but since i did'nt had "slow typing issue" as it happened to me on CM11 (typing on Firefox could sometimes became painfully slow, had to kill the app and relaunch to get normal typing speed again).
On Firefox, i still experience lags, long page loadings, and sometimes crashes - especially if i open too much tabs. I guess it's because of my use : many tabs as said earlier, plus my Firefox is set with Desktop user agent - which might be demanding... But that's a 10.1" tablet, i prefer having a desktop navigation style, on many website it's way more comfortable, even if that costs me on the performance side. I wonder if a most recent/powerful model can handle navigation w/desktop UA "at desktop computer speed" - if not, i don't really have any reason to move.
Edit : some Improvements using thoses tricks (cache setting modified accordingly, of course) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280714
It's now close to something great in response, even if it freeze a bit and crashes sometimes when I open too much tabs or pages with too much animations, for instance. But I guess I'm close to what can be done with GT2 modest H/W....
I just passed to SlimLP... Great battery life and great overall experience but i must say am not using my tablet that much.. Just for youtube some medium web browsing and some music that's it. Very responsive compared to my omnirom and way less lag and a much much better battery life
Hi again,
This afternoon i copied files from a computer (windows) via USB. PDF files goes to my SD card without troubles, but xls files blocked (can't remember the message). I had to compress the files on a rar, luckily ES explorer can unzip and the files can be read on the tablet using WPS office. Also, I created a folder on the card from the computer, still trough the USB connection, but when trying to rename it : the explorer freezes.
Is there some kind of restrictions on SlimKat ? I can't remeber having that issues when I was on cyanogen...
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So the evita has made it into the first group of devices with official nightly builds for CM12!
You can read the blog post from CyanogenMod here: cyanogenmod.org/blog/the-l-is-for-lollipop
Or... you can jump right into the downloads here: download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=evita
Hi All-
I've built CyanogenMod 12 from source for the HTC One XL.
Nothing has been modified, and the only thing required to get it to work was some trickery with the proprietary blobs.
Most everything seems to be working properly!
There are some app glitches I've seen (particularly video playback), but I'm guessing it's not specific to this device.
Some of the video problems can be solved by disabling the NuPlayer in the Developer options.
Updated 2014-12-16. Video appears to be a bit more stable.
Updated 2014-12-22. Update to Android 5.0.2! (whatever that means)
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Tested working:
Mobile network
Wifi
Camera
Bluetooth
GPS
Play Store, google apps, etc.
I'm running HBOOT 2.18, s-off, TWRP 2.8.1.0; so I'd recommend you do the same
Steps:
Download CM12; put it on your SD card:
cm-12-20141229-UNOFFICIAL-evita.zip
cm-12-20141229-UNOFFICIAL-evita.zip.md5sum
Download PA Beta Google Apps; put it on your SD card:
(Not required, but you'll want this for the Play Store app)
[GAPPS][5.0.x][BETA] OFFICIAL Up-to-Date PA-GOOGLE APPS (All ROM's) [2014-12-25]
Reboot to recovery.
Take a backup if you want.
Do a 'factory reset'.
(NOTE!!! Do not do the factory reset from the bootloader, since that will wipe ALL your files)
Install CM12 & Google Apps.
Reboot!
I'll be making more builds as time goes on, until we get official support.
Have fun and let me know if anything goes wrong!
A note about md5sums:
I don't know why people don't seem to recommend doing this, but TWRP will automatically check md5 hashes for you.
Just include the .md5sum file in the same folder as the .zip file.
I've had corrupted downloads/transfers before, and they're easy to avoid.
XDA:DevDB Information
CyanogenMod 12.0 Unofficial, ROM for the AT&T HTC One X
Contributors
sjmik
ROM OS Version: 5.0.x Lollipop
ROM Kernel: Linux 3.4.x
ROM Firmware Required: HBOOT 2.18
Based On: CyanogenMod 12.0
Version Information
Status: Nightly
Created 2014-12-14
Last Updated 2015-01-06
You guys are awesome, hope to see soon the official one.
Thanks for this great ROM.
I've been having some trouble with the phone app. It hangs while ending the call.
I also tried to check muy IMEI and it's blank. (Check attached picture)
Battery isn't good either.
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alfonsofernandezyf said:
I've been having some trouble with the phone app. It hangs while ending the call.
I also tried to check muy IMEI and it's blank. (Check attached picture)
Battery isn't good either.
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I'm on AT&T and I don't have any problems with the phone app or IMEI; who is your carrier?
If you want to post a logcat I will look into it.
As for battery, Juice Defender could be hurting if it is aggressively closing apps/services which then restart themselves.
Or you could try disabling NFC. I've had many problems with NFC on other ROMs for this phone in the past, and I never use it so I always keep it off.
I clean installed again, and I can see, a very big difference.
I can see my IMEI now, I can also:
Make calls
Connect thru mobile data
Watch YouTube and Netflix
Send video to Chromecast
Listen to music
Music Bluetooth stream
Bluetooth calls (not sure)
Take screenshots
Battery is not bad at all.
But I still can't watch video on Instagram or Facebook.
After getting a phone call, phone app becomes unresponsive. It freezes on the call screen displaying the word "Terminando" English for "Ending".
Everything else works, but you can't call again until rebooting.
I love CyanogenMod and Lollipop.
Thank you for the great work.
Edit: I forgot, my carrier is TELCEL in México City.
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I've been using this rom for a day now and through the short use of this rom I've not noticed any hiccups except getting Vipermod to work fully. Trying to boost the speaker volume for instance but have not come to any success. Other than that it's proving very nice and I am really liking 5.0 since my LG G2 took a dive the screen shattered.
Edit: Unfortunately I spoke too soon because I have run into two specific problems so far, one being the battery. It's difficult with this rom to make it through even a whole day and when the "battery saving feature" kicks in the device is reporting 15% left yet in reality this is around 3% because I go to turn the device on and it shuts down.
Second problem I found was with the music streaming service Pandora. The audio just doesn't want to play. I've had no issues with youtube and other videos through chrome, just Pandora and wanting to stream across bluetooth.
I understand this is an APLPHA, just wanted to report back my findings. Thank you for taking the time on this Rom and I will be checking back in to test again and see how the progress goes as I am really enjoying Lollipop.
beankid said:
Edit: Unfortunately I spoke too soon because I have run into two specific problems so far, one being the battery. It's difficult with this rom to make it through even a whole day and when the "battery saving feature" kicks in the device is reporting 15% left yet in reality this is around 3% because I go to turn the device on and it shuts down.
Second problem I found was with the music streaming service Pandora. The audio just doesn't want to play. I've had no issues with youtube and other videos through chrome, just Pandora and wanting to stream across bluetooth.
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Pandora works fine for me. I wasn't expecting it to so it is a pleasant surprise
Are you running the 12/16 version?
For battery, I haven't seen a problem.
What does the battery usage page say?
Have you tried turning off NFC?
I am running the latest version and as far as the battery usage page goes I can't really trust it right now because it tells me values that as aren't really took crazy yet my battery gets eaten up on this rom. Have you tried Pandora through bluetooth music streaming? I've heard that this is a problem with other lollipop roms so far as well.
Will CyanogenMod support Evita in their CM12 version?
Is there any way to know which devices are going to be supported? If so could you share a link? Thank you.
kevlarchest said:
Will CyanogenMod support Evita in their CM12 version?
Is there any way to know which devices are going to be supported? If so could you share a link? Thank you.
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At the moment, no devices are supported.
There is no list of devices with planned support; although, there have been a few CM11 devices that are planned to not be supported in CM12.
Many updates are happening on different parts of the code, and various things are expected to break/fix from day-to-day.
Once the CyanogenMod team decide the code is stable-ish (for at least the popular devices) they will start releasing nightly builds.
At that time, I see no reason for this device not to be supported since I am already building the code practically unchanged.
CyanogenMod on November 13th said:
We are unlikely to enable nightlies against CM12 until towards the end of this month, or early next month, as we work to incorporate the CM features you’ve all come to appreciate into the new code base, and reimagine those that no longer translate to the Material look of L. It is also currently too soon to tell how many devices will transition from 11 to 12, though early traction has this number higher than we had initially hypothesized.
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beankid said:
I am running the latest version and as far as the battery usage page goes I can't really trust it right now because it tells me values that as aren't really took crazy yet my battery gets eaten up on this rom. Have you tried Pandora through bluetooth music streaming? I've heard that this is a problem with other lollipop roms so far as well.
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Thank you so much for the info! Anyways I just installed your ROM and its looking gorgeous! Smooth installations, not problems whatsoever so far. Will report later with any finding.
Thanks a lot for your work!
Installed new version 12162014.
Phone app does not crash after hanging up, but Bluetooth calls do not work.
Phone app crashes when dialing.
Hello, i've already use the newest version, and it works flawlessly, btw it kind of slow loading if i using it for playing some games, is it because the app usually run at dalvik runtime and now because the lollipop it run at ART and that cause the app loading so slow?
I've loaded the newest ROM, cm-12-20141218-UNOFFICIAL-evita.zip
It works great, except for a couple of things.
1. AudioFX keeps stopping.
2. When I connect my phone to computer via usb, sometimes the internal storage shows up in File Explorer, sometimes not. When it does, I can open Internal Storage and see all the folders. However, when I open some of the folders, I see either no files, or only some of the files that I know are really there. From the phone I can see the files using ES file Explorer. Also, I've found no way to change the usb protocol (MTP, PTP or USB Mass Storage).
Other than this, the ROM seems to run just fine.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks for this great ROM. Runs realy smooth and stable for me, but mobile data and usb connection to my PC isnt working.
In the APN settings there is a message that the APN settings arent available for this user and im not able to add an APN. Any idea?
Engelhuber said:
Thanks for this great ROM. Runs realy smooth and stable for me, but mobile data and usb connection to my PC isnt working.
In the APN settings there is a message that the APN settings arent available for this user and im not able to add an APN. Any idea?
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I have same problem
Camera - Unable to focus?
Just noticed that the focus on my phone does not work. Anyone notice the same issue?
It wasn't able to focus on rom packaged version and also google camera from play store. I first dirty flashed but then did a clean install and still was acting up. Was working fine in Sense 5 and CM11.
Taking photos and videos etc function works though. Just wasn't able to point focus.
This is so cool !! Just tried on my rogers htc one xl evita w/ hboot 2.18 and TWRP
Flawless
lacsters said:
Just noticed that the focus on my phone does not work. Anyone notice the same issue?
It wasn't able to focus on rom packaged version and also google camera from play store. I first dirty flashed but then did a clean install and still was acting up. Was working fine in Sense 5 and CM11.
Taking photos and videos etc function works though. Just wasn't able to point focus.
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same for me
and mobile data isn't working or only for a short time after a reboot.
So far this has been great, had a couple reboots one after trying to reply with Hangouts and another when setting up my work email. Has had some small lag but nothing major.
Luckily I still had an XL for a backup. My GPE converted M7 won't turn on or charge anymore
I got a used i9070 last week that was still running Android 2.3. After updating it to the official 4.1.2 ROM and then installing the latest CyanogenMod 11 build by NovaFusion team and customizing it, my Samsung S II Lite / Samsung S Advance battery life lasted more than six days without charging it !
The screenshots look dark because the brightness level is set to low and use Twilight, but it looks good on the screen of the device.
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After taking this screenshot, I decided to finally charge it. Here are my home and about screens:
ROM: CyanogenMod 11 by NovaFusion (December 2014 release). Relevant installed apps:
AdAway
AFWall+
ES File Explorer
F-Droid
Google Keyboard
Google Play Services (I've kept mainly the Play Store and Calendar)
Intelli3G
List My Apps
Power Toggles
System App Safe Remover
Twilight
Xposed Installer
I keep all synchronization services turned off when I'm not using it. Intelli3G is set to also automatically change the network mode to 2G when mobile data is off. This makes it use a lot less battery than the default 3G mode.
I've also found out that Google Play Services kept wasting my battery even when data and Wifi connections were turned off, so I used the built-in CyanogenMod Privacy Guard app to prevent it from waking the device up.
I've also turned off some animations with the Android developer options, and it feels very fast to use. It's charging relatively quickly too.
anewpoweruser said:
I got a used i9070 last week that was still running Android 2.3. After updating it to the official 4.1.2 ROM and then installing the latest CyanogenMod 11 build by NovaFusion team and customizing it, my Samsung S II Lite / Samsung S Advance battery life lasted more than six days without charging it !
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SS you attached don't make any sense bcz there isn't any app you used ! battery life doesn't depend on how many app u installed it depends on how may you actually used !!
plus you even turned off play services so how come one can get notifications depends on it ?!
so put SS of SOT & give proof of you used phone in that 6 day bcz Novafusion is king of lies
bcz one can charge phone and put it aside for 2 weeks also, it may be still on but it don't mean that rom battery backup is good
@jineshpatel30 Not even the most expensive phones would last so much if you actually spent a lot of time touching it. The phone was mostly just connected to the cellular network to receive calls and messages (I'm using it as my main phone and take it everywhere), and the list of apps I posted show what I used to customize it, not everything that is on it. Hence the word relevant.
The point of this thread is that the battery would normally be wasted in a normal install even inside your hypothetical box, and I solved this by automatically disabling everything but the cell signal when I'm not looking at the screen. As for Google Play notifications, I don't need any of them except the calendar one, and I can easily synchornize it in 5 seconds.
When I get a data plan, I'm going to browse maps and some sites daily too, and AdAway and AFWall+ will help me save a lot of battery in relation to a standard install. Even if you use yours to do a lot of things every day, you can gain some battery life by using Intelli3G too.
anewpoweruser said:
@jineshpatel30 Not even the most expensive phones would last so much if you actually spent a lot of time touching it. The phone was mostly just connected to the cellular network to receive calls and messages (I'm using it as my main phone and take it everywhere), and the list of apps I posted show what I used to customize it, not everything that is on it. Hence the word relevant.
The point of this thread is that the battery would normally be wasted in a normal install even inside your hypothetical box, and I solved this by automatically disabling everything but the cell signal when I'm not looking at the screen. As for Google Play notifications, I don't need any of them except the calendar one, and I can easily synchornize it in 5 seconds.
When I get a data plan, I'm going to browse maps and some sites daily too, and AdAway and AFWall+ will help me save a lot of battery in relation to a standard install. Even if you use yours to do a lot of things every day, you can gain some battery life by using Intelli3G too.
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So basically you r saying that you created this thread just to show "stand by time of i9070 on cm11"
So change thread title to that..
Btw no one is interstated in that !
N also if one wants to sync manually and check all notification by opening apps every time (regarding disabling play service) then i think he shouldn't even buy smart phone !
Whenever you ready to USE yr phone (atleast daily moderate use) check yr battery ...i bet you won't get more than 1.5Hr SOT with 6hr up time
@jineshpatel30 I for one am among the people interested in the longest possible battery life and read many threads on this and other forums to find the best solutions. You keep ignoring the fact that my tips contain things useful for all kinds of users, like automatically changing the network to 2G when you aren't using your data plan. If you prefer to drain your battery as much as you can, just ignore this thread. I don't see the point of coming here just to attack me and the used phone I got as gift.
I assume you're trolling and am going to ignore your replies from now on.
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@jineshpatel30 I for one am among the people interested in the longest possible battery life and read many threads on this and other forums to find the best solutions. You keep ignoring the fact that my tips contain things useful for all kinds of users, like automatically changing the network to 2G when you aren't using your data plan. If you prefer to drain your battery as much as you can, just ignore this thread. I don't see the point of coming here just to attack me and the used phone I got as gift.
I assume you're trolling and am going to ignore your replies from now on.
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1st of all i'm not trolling.
I'm telling the facts that if you bought a phone atleast you need to let it do some basic things automatically...putting all things manual and blocking necessary apps doesn't make any sense to improve battery life bcz you can charge phone atleast once a day without much trouble.
And if you are telling about improvement with battery life your thread should be "improve battery life with xxx app" not like "6 day battery on CM11" bcz changes you made (blocking) and apps you are using are not specific to any rom.
And inteli3G is very popular app so most of xda members already knew about that. And personally i noticed that it use more battery than you could save by using it IF YOU USE YOUR DATA PLAN EVERY NOW AND THEN (it may be useful if you rarely ise data plan)
So my point is if you make new thread then make it proper..
1st you said 6day battery on CM11 with device you barely used
Then you are saying i'm taking about my configuration ( blocking play service n sync) which normal user can't do
And now about app which can work in any rom !
So be clear what you are telling to ppl and give appropriate name to thread...this will help to to spread right info to more users.
And sorry if you feel like i'm trolling or attacking you , but i'm not
There is already an thread for this:
Battery live post yours I9070/P battery live
Yep, in stand by my Janice have 10 days from charge. New original battery, stock, rooted and Cocore kernel.
But its irrelevant on stand by.
The other Beta thread is a little crazy with everything, and there is not much regarding the title of this thread any way.
Anyway, so far, I REALLY dig 7! I love the changes to the UI and such, and where Samsung went with it overall. I haven't seen stock 7.0/7.1, so I cannot say how close to stock they kept it, but I hear it's even closer than before. That, I think it awesome.
Everything seems snappier, and the way things open and close is pretty slick. The new color scheme is nice too. A LOT less 4 year old than I've come to expect from Android lately.
Battery life for me is pretty much the same. I'm getting from 4-5am to 10pm with still 40-50% left.
New menus, dropdown, etc. are nice too. The app drawer is SOOOO much better now that you sort it alphabetically once, and it stays that way, instead of every time you install a new app, or one updates, it would put whatever app at the very end.
However, after a couple days of zero issues, I'm starting to have some.
Notifications will not swipe away sometimes. Generally it might take several attempts to swipe away, but sometimes they just won't unless I unlock and do it again. Fairly annoying.
Changing permissions in app manager sometimes causes Settings to force close. Not a big one there since I can change permissions elsewhere.
The cache fills up more quickly and the phone starts to lag after just a couple days. I wipe cache and whatever about once a week and reboot the phone, now I am doing so every 2-3 days it seems. No biggie there, I realize this is beta.
That's it for now. Your turn.
I find the 7.0 beta fast & smooth. Battery life has doubled for me. I used to have to get a charge around 7-8 hours of use. I'm now getting 12 hours between charges.
I like the UI except for the notifications. The large, white background is ugly.
I've noticed that wireless fast charging doesn't always work. Sometimes it says it's charging but when I pick up the phone the battery hasn't charged.
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- Settings: Editing up to 9 Settings shortcuts, only shows 8 for me but trying to select another for a 9th errors stating one is already there. It was due to having Battery as a shortcut before, but now in the beta this is under Device Maintenance. Reported as a Bug. EDIT: Clearing cache/data on Settings removes all shortcuts at the top of the Settings app, and you can re-add what you like again, and fixes my issue mentioned above.
- Galaxy Apps Store: Missing, but can access via Galaxy Essentials Widget or Samsung Gear, also reported as Bug.
I would encourage anyone who has registered and taken the beta to file any Bugs or Suggestions in the app Samsung Members. If you flashed the beta with Odin and didn't officially register, you may not see this app and cannot provide feedback. Samsung did reply to both of my above Bug reports, stating that they were aware of them and will fix them in the next beta release. They are looking and reviewing those, so I encourage everyone who's having an issue to report it, be thorough and explain how to reproduce your issue, provide screenshots if applicable.
Don't be that person who just files a Bug or Suggestion with "It's not working FIX NAO" or "Add this feature or I'm never buying Samsung again!!11"...but I cannot stop you if you decide to do that.
Since installing the Beta, I'm quite happy.
1. Faster and smoother performance, does not start to lag
2. Better notifications system
3. Can turn off the hated Bluetooth volume warning/limit
4. Zero issues so far with normal use
Only downside so far is loss of Foxfi tethering.
Only odd issue is that my phone System Update in Settings doesn't recognize that the phone has been updated to the Beta version. Still says I'm on PH1 build from September.
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I followed the instructions in the other thread's first post and successfully installed the Beta. Now my phone is randomly restarting every couple of minutes....oh jeeze. Unusable, hoping I can figure out what's wrong, or roll back...
Edit: Maybe related to Samsung bloat I disabled with package disabler? Can't get package disabler to work
Double-Edit: Things seem good after a factory restart.
Feedback : Don't user package disabler with this. Hope this helps someone.
greenjeans said:
I followed the instructions in the other thread's first post and successfully installed the Beta. Now my phone is randomly restarting every couple of minutes....oh jeeze. Unusable, hoping I can figure out what's wrong, or roll back...
Edit: Maybe related to Samsung bloat I disabled with package disabler? Can't get package disabler to work
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This thread is for beta impressions and general beta use feedback, if you want help on issues like above, better of asking/reading in the Galaxy Beta thread.
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My accessibility settings keep reverting back to off for all programs. Anyone else have this issue? I think it happens after a reboot.
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greenjeans said:
I followed the instructions in the other thread's first post and successfully installed the Beta. Now my phone is randomly restarting every couple of minutes....oh jeeze. Unusable, hoping I can figure out what's wrong, or roll back...
Edit: Maybe related to Samsung bloat I disabled with package disabler? Can't get package disabler to work
Double-Edit: Things seem good after a factory restart.
Feedback : Don't user package disabler with this. Hope this helps someone.
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I'm using EZ Disabler and it works fine for me.
For those whos galaxy apps store icon disappeared, I had that too, I think its a bug in the upgrade, because I did a factory reset and the icon came back. All the issues I had went away too. Very Very impressed by this beta.
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Since installing the Beta, I'm quite happy.
1. Faster and smoother performance, does not start to lag
2. Better notifications system
3. Can turn off the hated Bluetooth volume warning/limit
4. Zero issues so far with normal use
Only downside so far is loss of Foxfi tethering.
Only odd issue is that my phone System Update in Settings doesn't recognize that the phone has been updated to the Beta version. Still says I'm on PH1 build from September.
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You had to do full system wipe then it will show the new build. I don't have any issues at all, no foreclosings and stuff
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I am having two issues:
1. My accessibility settings get reset each time I reboot my phone.
2. When I click on the gallery icon in the camera app, it says there are no pictures. It's saving all the images as an album. Not sure if this is a setting but I can't locate it.
Does anyone know where to report these issues if we are on the official beta?
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I am having two issues:
1. My accessibility settings get reset each time I reboot my phone.
2. When I click on the gallery icon in the camera app, it says there are no pictures. It's saving all the images as an album. Not sure if this is a setting but I can't locate it.
Does anyone know where to report these issues if we are on the official beta?
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My accessibility settings keep reverting back to off for all programs. Anyone else have this issue? I think it happens after a reboot.
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Same here. I use LastPass and the app filling service (uses the accessibility framework) gets disabled on each reboot. I reported it to the app maker as well just in case it's an Android 7 framework change and not a beta issue.
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You had to do full system wipe then it will show the new build. I don't have any issues at all, no foreclosings and stuff View attachment 3938071
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yeah, not bothering to wipe until things proceed a little further, waiting to see what happens when the next build is released.
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I did the update .. once the update was installed .. did a full factory reset.
So far so good .. UI is fluid/smooth .. have had no problems with making or receiving calls, sending and receiving messages (SMS and MMS) .. Applications (which I have a lot of) are doing good with only 1 hiccup and that was with executing Facebook. The application would immediately crash. Now, I also use Messenger and Words with Friends (tied into my Facebook) .. so I tried Words with Friends first, was able to log in using my Facebook credentials no problem. Next, Messenger.. because I used the same credentials with Word with Friends, Messenger automatically logged me in using the same. So since both those worked, I tried Facebook again .. success, didn't need to log in and it when straight to the page.
Only other issue I have noticed .. my WiFi will disconnect spontaneously, even though I'm within 10 feet of it. It would also lose it's credentials (WEP info) .. so I need to re-enter to get connected.
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Use the Samsung Members app to report beta issues.
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I actually tried this and it said my device wasn't registered and wouldn't allow me to give any feedback. For those that are though, please please use that app to tell Samsung what bugs or issues you come across. Posting them everywhere else won't get them fixed.
Thanks to all who are putting in their input and testing Nougat to its limit. This is a rock solid beta so far.
I like it so far, just wish there was a root.
I'm getting a significant bump in battery life. I attribute it to the improved doze mode in 7.0. The blue light filter is something that is more useful to me than Samsung Pay!
From jrkruse:
"Tmobile got their first beta nougat update today so verizon should be getting one as well."
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Absolutely love the 7.0 beta so far. Everything is much smoother than marshmallow and the animations are a lot more appealing. You can tell that Samsung didn't intrude very much into the stock 7.0 look.
I'm constantly finding little tweaks that make me go "woah", such as the display resolution customization and in-depth battery saver settings. I also just found out that if you click the wording "Flashlight" in your notification draw it allows you to change the brightness. A small feature but I find it extremely useful.
Other than that I'm just genuinely impressed at the performance boost and battery savings this beta has brought with it.
10/10
Also, if you want a more stock look download the theme "Material Dark".
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Absolutely love the 7.0 beta so far. Everything is much smoother than marshmallow and the animations are a lot more appealing. You can tell that Samsung didn't intrude very much into the stock 7.0 look.
I'm constantly finding little tweaks that make me go "woah", such as the display resolution customization and in-depth battery saver settings. I also just found out that if you click the wording "Flashlight" in your notification draw it allows you to change the brightness. A small feature but I find it extremely useful.
Other than that I'm just genuinely impressed at the performance boost and battery savings this beta has brought with it.
10/10
Also, if you want a more stock look download the theme "Material Dark".
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Been using Material Dark (was already on my phone in marshmallow when i updated).
But based on your post noticed that the screens that appear wheni tap on the words on the pull down don't look right. Do they look OK for you?
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Some of this guide may apply to Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) as well. I've honestly forgotten what 6.0 was like since I have been on the 7.0 beta for so long, but some of this is possible on the older software.
So the reason I decided to make this guide was because I recently almost sold my S7 Edge due to poor performance. When I first installed Nougat it was great, but over time the phone got worse and worse. I realize this is an Android thing in general, but it just got to be so annoying that I couldn’t ignore it any longer. I have a vanilla android tablet that flies and when I would switch back to the phone it was almost unbearable. This guide will help out significantly with that issue.
First off you'll want to enable "Developer options". Go to Settings > About device > and then tap on "Build number" 7 times to enable Developer options.
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After that go back a page and scroll all the way to the bottom to find Developer options. Click that.
Once in Developer options scroll about 3/4 way down to find three entries that say "animation scale". Change all three entries to "0.5x".
Next we need to go to the Playstore and download an app called "Package Disabler Pro". Yes it's 2 dollars and yes you want/need it.
Before running the app download the .XML file I have attached to this post called "XDA.xml". Now go ahead and open the app and let it load. Next click the three dots in the top right and select "Import from xml". Select the xml file you downloaded from the previous step. This will disable some of the pre-installed apps that you don't need. I encourage you to look through this entire list and click on each item that you would never use, this will permanently disable that app from running or appearing in your app drawer. You can easily undo it at any time by clicking the apps name again (taking the check out of the box). Just to let you know I have 33 additional apps disabled other than the ones in the "XDA.xml" file, I have all kinds of stuff disabled that I don't use; gear vr, gear manager for watches, android pay (I use Samsung pay), S-voice (I used google dictation for everything). I really encourage you to go through and get rid of anything in there that you don't use, it will help the phone out a lot. Once you're done reboot the phone.
When the phone boots up go to the "Device maintenance" section of the settings menu. I at first ignored this section as I felt that it was gimmicky an unnecessary, but then realized that it's actually very useful.
First let’s go to "Performance mode". There is a ton of stuff you can do with this, but I am only going to address one of them. Click on "settings" and then "Screen resolution". Change it to 1920x1080 (FHD). You can always change it back if you really need something such as VR, but most of the time you will not be able to tell that there was a change in resolution.
Next go back to Device maintenance and select "RAM". This menu allows you to close out things from RAM that you don't want running. The problem with this is that Linux (Android) prefers to have apps stay in RAM instead of having to reload them each time you open them, so closing them is kind of counterproductive. Not only that but almost everything that you close from this menu will re-enable itself in the next few minutes anyway. This menu, like the "Battery" section, gives you a look at things which are running that you may not know about. I went through this list and uninstalled apps that I didn't even use so that they weren't just hanging around running without me knowing. A lot of the apps on this list were running and I never even opened them to begin with, that kind of bugs me. I got rid of the ones I could and then used Greenify (more on that in a minute) on the others. Any apps on this list that you for sure never opened, need to be added to Greenify (see next section for instructions) because they are running themselves and using resources.
Now for Greenify. Go to the playstore and download the "Greenify" app and follow the instructions to set it up. It takes a few steps to setup but you only have to do it once. Pay attention as some of the steps are a little tricky and they all must be enabled for the app to function properly. Once installed you will use Greenify to hibernate the apps that you found from the previous section (ram manager) that you don't want awake all the time. Some apps just run themselves without asking you first and sit there consuming battery. I would first decide whether you even need that app to begin with and if you do, then go ahead and Greenify it. Something to note here is that if you Greenify an app that NEEDS to stay awake to work, such as a chat program or music apps, they won't work properly. These apps are easy to spot because they have little blue "gcm" icons next to them, so be careful. To add an app to the "Greenify list" (auto hibernation) just hit the + button in the top right to start adding them.
Once you're done with all that, your phone should be flying. It's not even the same phone anymore really. One thing I want to point out is that the Samsung keyboard on Android 6.0 was trash. It was a completely unusable piece of non-working trash. The auto correct couldn't keep up with any reasonable typing speed, so no words would be corrected at all and you would be left with a mess of a paragraph. I solved that with Swiftkey originally, but for some odd reason it was never blazing fast on this phone. It caught every single mistake, but when you were typing there was just enough lag to kind of throw off your typing speed and it looked like crap. I am happy to say that on Android 7.0 the new Samsung keyboard is the best keyboard I have ever used. They FINALLY got it right after all these years. Honestly all of their keyboards have sucked. They could never seem to get them right, whether it was lag or just plain non-functioning auto correct, it was always something. This one is perfect and if you're using Swiftkey I would uninstall it as it continually reruns itself even when you force close it. It's also a resource hog, so if you don't need it, get rid of it.
There is it, you should be good to go with these small adjustments. A lot of you don't even have 7.0 yet, but when you do at least you will have a head start. There is nothing worse than paying $800 for the latest smartphone only for it to be a laggy mess. Hopefully this helps somewhat with that problem.
Good advice. I just got my S7E the other day. I was (am) so disappointed there is no root for this device. My other android is a note 4 and there is a huge development community, so that's what I've been used to for the past 2 years. I'm missing little things that you can do with root... Ad away for 1, and honestly 3minit battery and 3minit clock. Like I said little things.
And to be honest, the S7E doesn't feel "that" much faster than my Note 4. Which has got me scratching my head. It's faster but not the night and day difference I expected.
Well I look forward to nougat. And using these tips. Thanks!
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I've disabled animations and disabled or removed bloat apps for years. I find I have to do a complete reset every couple weeks or so since being on beta. It gets HORRIBLE lag that no amount of cache clearing fixes.
PDP can actually ruin battery life as dependent apps are constantly running, searching for and not finding other apps they're tied to.
joe3681 said:
I've disabled animations and disabled or removed bloat apps for years. I find I have to do a complete reset every couple weeks or so since being on beta. It gets HORRIBLE lag that no amount of cache clearing fixes.
PDP can actually ruin battery life as dependent apps are constantly running, searching for and not finding other apps they're tied to.
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My phone has been amazingly smooth for 2 weeks now, night and day difference. I agree, if you get carried away with disabling packages it can be counter productive. I've gone through and just disabled anything I didn't recognize, like 200 things disabled LOL Yea getting carried away with that program can cause some serious problems. I only disable things that are clearly apps that I wouldn't use and a couple others that I know for certain are insane battery hogs like the tmobile carrier IQ service that logs your every action (I forget the name at the moment but it's disabled in my XDA.xml).
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PDP can actually ruin battery life as dependent apps are constantly running, searching for and not finding other apps they're tied to.
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Force the app, and clear it's cache and data before disabling it. I was ready to deal with the root issues to Uninstaller a bunch of apps when PDP failed to extend my battery life, but someone in another thread suggested cleaning the app and it worked wonders for me.
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Mine is still in android 6 and in uodate swction its not showing. What the hell is wrong where everyone using 7
saurabh88 said:
Mine is still in android 6 and in uodate swction its not showing. What the hell is wrong where everyone using 7
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Those of us how are running 7.0 are in the beta program, which is closed
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Ohk
Guide updated to add Greenify section, remove redundant and (non useful) section, and new XDA.xml app uploaded.
I think using (a) Package Disabler is maybe one of the most important steps! Including a pre-done .xml to help people disable bloat is fantastic. GREAT JOB! Thanks given!
Araltd said:
I think using (a) Package Disabler is maybe one of the most important steps! Including a pre-done .xml to help people disable bloat is fantastic. GREAT JOB! Thanks given!
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is there a difference if I just go into setting, applications and just disabling the app from there? is the app necessary ?
Izz14 said:
is there a difference if I just go into setting, applications and just disabling the app from there? is the app necessary ?
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You can't disable services with the in OS settings, only applications and not system applications.
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Sounds like the right thing to do, but since we have no real backup of our ROM, what does one do if the changes made by this app are not to the liking of the user? How can this process be reverted back to prior of the making of these changes?
Hey guys, I own a Photon Q and plan on buying another for parts as mine got scratched up bad on a recent hike. i was playing around with other roms and thought I'd start a discussion thread for the few people still rocking the best QWERTY phone ever made.
My setup:
Sailfish OS 2.1.3.7 (need to update to 2.1.4.14 soon)
Rainbow backlight
Sim modded obviously
It's fast, stable, and the battery life on Sailfish is easily double what I got on CM11 or even CM10.2
What other roms have I used?
LOS14.1 - Fast and lot's of fun, but the battery life was just garbage. Battery life was my only complaint, 15% gone in 30 minutes? REALLY?
CM11 - Fast but again, bad battery life.
CM12.1 - Oddly really slow compared to the above two but the battery life was meh, I blame different default clock speeds
CM10.2 - the best android rom. Decent Speed, decent battery life. Only issue is, you know, it's android 4.3.1, I prefer ICS over JB and wish CM9 was available.
Sailfish OS - of course, my favorite. Its super fast, and the battery is at 78% at the end of the day for me. It's something you just need to try for yourself. If you don't mind losing android app support make the switch you won't regret it.
What are you guys using? what tweaks? what rom? what hardware mods? what new phones/old phones are you looking at?
The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
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About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)
I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...
The Solutor said:
The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
P.S.
About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)
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c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.
Galaxyninja66 said:
c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.
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The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.
The Solutor said:
The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.
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*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.
enigma9o7 said:
I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...
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Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Galaxyninja66 said:
*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.
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Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?
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Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
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I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
I have very few apps installed, certainly no facebook or any social media anything besides hangouts, can't really think of anything to downgrade. Ah well.
enigma9o7 said:
I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
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F2FS is supported since LP.
There is also a PQ KitKat ROM with backported F2FS support.
To get full advantage of it you should have both /data and /cache partitions on f2fs.
So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
Keep in mind that your "internal SD" is just a subfolder of /data, so you need to backup your data inside it as well, or just move temporarily them to the external SD
There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
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I don't have google voice on my phone since the days of Milestone 1, which come with a good internal voice recognizing app, small, local and effective (I think it still works)
By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.
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So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
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There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
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By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.
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As I mentioned, in my case, data was already f2fs and I just did cache. Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.
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Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
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System is basically a read only partition that changes only when you install a new rom, a zip from TWRP, or when you use a root file explorer to change somthing.
No writes = no need for a smarter FS.
That said I believe that, if you backup your system partition then you restore it on FSFS, it will work. The kernel supports it and I don't think it's "racist" about the partition involved.
Just there is no point in doing that, minimal (if any) improvements, v.s. possible troubles.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.
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Ok.
But even on a Gapp Based ROM is still a pleasure to use Yalp over the Playstore.
When the resources are limited, anything that can be removed/replaced by a leaner version helps to improve the responsiveness.
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Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
Stock browser is stock browser : (
I don't mind it and most people don;t, but the next best thing is webcat, which is basically the same thing.
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?
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honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.
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honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.
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Frankly If it was for my I was still using Gingerbread, Surely its UI was not silky and refined like the new iterations, but the UX was light years better than anything that came later.
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Back to the browser, I feel incredible that I was able to have a good mobile experience using my P800 (which is the very first real smartphone, from 2002) or even a micro phone like the siemens SL-55 with its stamp sized display, while I couldn't get the same, in the AD2018, on a brand new smartphone, which has hundreds of times the power and the memory of them.
I feel just retarded that google moved the setting menu on the top left corner, just when the display started to become surf board sized, and i could continue for a day...
I feel completely crazy how most users decided to back any idiotic idea spooned to them by the big brothers. Starting from the terminology.
Think to "Sideloading"... seriously ?
Installing a program on my device, possibly a program written and compiled by myself is SIDE loading ? ?
I couldn't think to anything more "straight" and less "side" than that.
In short I try to limit the damage exactly like you do, then we give different value to different aspects of the device usage. Which is normal and human.
The point is not how we try to fix a problem, the point is that nowadays most people doesn't even realize that there is a problem to solve.:crying: