[Q] Motorola Lapdock to work with newer phones? - General Topics

So my wife has a Motorola Lapdock 100 which has a micro HDMI port for display and micro USB connector for the keyboard and to charge the phone. I'd like to adapt this so that I could use it with a modern-day phone such as the HTC One M8 or Galaxy S5, but I can't find a pre-made one online, and I can't find enough information for how to splice my own cable together (preferably buy a pre-made one). Does anyone know an easy way to make this cable myself, or if I can find one pre-made?
Also, sorry if this should've been in Q&A, please move it if needed.

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Galaxy Tabâ„¢ USB & SD Connection Kit

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[Q] Use Motorola Lapdock with SG3?

I have an old Lapdoc that I used to use with my Droid Bionic. I loved the latest version of Webtop and thought this was one of the best things about having a Motorola smartphone. The news that Motorola is discontinuing Webtop got me wondering if there were a way of using the Lapdock with my SG3, perhaps in mirror-mode. Anyone tried to make this work or have any ideas on how to do so? For those unfamiliar with the various Lapdocks that are out there, they have a male micro-HDMI connector and a male micro-usb connector that attach to Motorola smartphones. The micro-usb provides power to the phone. Even for those who don't already have a Lapdock, now that they are being discontinued, they can be found dirt-cheap out there.
If I'm not mistaken it has nothing to do with hardware but is all software. So your answer is no.
I believe there may be some options. Between a USB OTG cable, and a number of adapters.
I've ordered one myself for another project and will let you know what I come up with - hopefully the hardware arrives within the next week or so.
yourtvlies said:
I believe there may be some options. Between a USB OTG cable, and a number of adapters.
I've ordered one myself for another project and will let you know what I come up with - hopefully the hardware arrives within the next week or so.
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Looking forward to hearing what you come up with. Good luck and keep us posted.
harpdoc said:
I have an old Lapdoc that I used to use with my Droid Bionic.
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I got a 50$ lapdock for the Atrix 4G. I'm currently using it with the newest Atrix HD LTE that didn't get the WEBTOP software.
BUT as the lapdock is nothing more than an HDMI monitor with a USB hub/keyboard/touchpad, The Atrix HD use it as if it is connected to an HDTV with a USB keyboard.
It work very well. Any phone with HDMI out and USB can use the Motorola Lapdock. Even my MK802 PC-on-a-stick is ok with the lapdock.
As an OTG laptop, the lapdock doesn't need to tether or anything else. And most modern cellphone with dualcore cpu are as fast if not faster than an Atom based Netbook.
...plus is it stylish and very thin and recharge your cell on the go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887128
have fun !
Hm...
So the MHL cable I have doesn't support USB OTG, in fact, I'm not sure that any do. I'll have to dig through this thread and see if anyone's figured it out yet.
The lapdock's connections are standard: microUSB and microHDMI, and it's working well for what I purchased it for... though it would be a lot of fun to hack something together to take advantage of the SGS3 with it.

Moto Z2 Play and the Atrix Lapdock

Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
USB c generally does more. It supports external drives and even charging other devices.
Z2 Play doesn't support video out over USB C.
I looked into this a bit because I also was interested in using my Lapdock. I investigated the possibility of making a mod that would do this, but you'd have to convert between the DSI output from the Moto Mod interface to an HDMI output. Perhaps you could build an interface to use this device from STM: B-LCDAD-HDMI1, or perhaps build a board around something like the ADV7533, but it looks like you have to have a license for HDMI development to buy those. I also tried my Chromebook USB-C dock with my Z2 Play and can confirm that it doesn't seem to work.
In any case, there's not an easy solution, sorry! I would definitely be interested in working on a project like this, but it doesn't look very feasible right now.
This should be very doable. You will first need a Moto Mod Development kit and use the Compute firmware on it. You then need a MyDP to Micro HDMI cable and a microUSB to USB-C OTG cable. You should be able to connect it and have it behave as you want it to behave. To create your own Moto Mod that did that would require assistance from Motorola but you can do a prototype basically as I have told you.
Thanks yall! I have absolutely no idea how to even find a moto mod development kit, yet alone how to use one, so I guess that dream will have to be shelved for a while. Please continue to post if anything changes!
Krella
You can buy the Moto Mod Development Kit here. There are frequently out of stock so buy get it quickly if you want it.
KrellaKrentoshi said:
Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
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Hey man did you tried it with this adapter?
No, not yet. If you try it, please let me know how it does!
KrellaKrentoshi said:
No, not yet. If you try it, please let me know how it does!
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Would you mind to link me the excatly model of adapter that you have found?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LAD2FIA/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I think I may need to build a specialized cable. There is a different adapter, one from best buy someone showed me once that may work without any modification. I will post the link to that cable later
Can you post specs on the lapdock to Pi cable?
KrellaKrentoshi said:
Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
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I have a MotoZ and Z2 and still can't figure out why moto can't just create a laptop mod where the KDB/mouse is "usb" and the video treated the same as they do with the projector mod. I have 2 lapdocks collecting dust so if I can use them with the Rpi 3 that would be GREAT!
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What I think would really solve this is a mod that goes on the back on the Z and has 5V 3A+ input, an HDMI port, and 1+ usb3 port(S). The USB3 port can accept a std USB hub and then any HDMI cables/adapters can be used. The 5V input would charge the phone, power the mod, and potentially even the USB port(s). Then you can not only use the lapdock but also can use the device as a"media dock" to connect the phone to TV, kdb, mouse, wireless remote via usb, etc. Even just taking any battery mod and just adding wireless charging and any size HDMI out port would work as the phones USB port can be hooked to a commodity USB hub.
In my mind today's phones are fully capable desktop class systems and all that is missing is:
1. Linux/chrome app to act like wine and allow me to run APKs on my desktop/browser
2. APK I install of wine and the equivalent for Linux so wine compatible apps and Linux x apps run on phone.
An alternative to item one above that works too is a chrome/desktop app that may or may not have the ADK embedded in it but creates a local "X server" type of setup so I can "run" apps remotely on my PC the same as when I ssh from a Linus desktop to a Linux server and run X apps over that. Either a cable, wifi, or BT can be used to make the connection.
Shame things like the lapdocks, Entourage Edge, etc came out ahead of their time and too soon for the market. They were revolutionary (and still are) and if created today I think wold be a HUGE hit!
rhce_v6 said:
Can you post specs on the lapdock to Pi cable?
I have a MotoZ and Z2 and still can't figure out why moto can't just create a laptop mod where the KDB/mouse is "usb" and the video treated the same as they do with the projector mod. I have 2 lapdocks collecting dust so if I can use them with the Rpi 3 that would be GREAT!
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What I think would really solve this is a mod that goes on the back on the Z and has 5V 3A+ input, an HDMI port, and 1+ usb3 port(S). The USB3 port can accept a std USB hub and then any HDMI cables/adapters can be used. The 5V input would charge the phone, power the mod, and potentially even the USB port(s). Then you can not only use the lapdock but also can use the device as a"media dock" to connect the phone to TV, kdb, mouse, wireless remote via usb, etc. Even just taking any battery mod and just adding wireless charging and any size HDMI out port would work as the phones USB port can be hooked to a commodity USB hub.
In my mind today's phones are fully capable desktop class systems and all that is missing is:
1. Linux/chrome app to act like wine and allow me to run APKs on my desktop/browser
2. APK I install of wine and the equivalent for Linux so wine compatible apps and Linux x apps run on phone.
An alternative to item one above that works too is a chrome/desktop app that may or may not have the ADK embedded in it but creates a local "X server" type of setup so I can "run" apps remotely on my PC the same as when I ssh from a Linus desktop to a Linux server and run X apps over that. Either a cable, wifi, or BT can be used to make the connection.
Shame things like the lapdocks, Entourage Edge, etc came out ahead of their time and too soon for the market. They were revolutionary (and still are) and if created today I think wold be a HUGE hi
I agree, they sure would be a huge hit! I keep breaking my screen. I sure wish I could just dock the phone to my lapdock and use that till I can get my screen replaced
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Possible to activate desktop experience without the samsung dex dock?

Hey all...so....long time android user.....my very first phone was the Motorola Atrix 4G - one of the first to offer fingerprint logins to the phone AND also had a mini-hdmi out port which hooked into a special "dock" motorola manufactured to create a desktop experience....although, I think at the time it wasn't just a dock, it was like a whole mini-laptop thing with a keyboard and stuff....
ANYWAY, the point I'm making is, I think someone found a way to activate the desktop mode and all you had to do was use the hdmi-out port (the phone came with a compatible hdmi cable) and connect it to a monitor or tv and you could use a BT connected mouse and keyboard and voila! You now have the "desktop" experience without having to buy their phone-into-a-laptop-adapter.
So....is it possible to activate this experience over a usb-to-hdmi adapter? The phones already came supplied with an OTG adapter....
Anyway....would love to know if anyone knows of anything like this or has the knowledge and skill to make this happen?
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I believe you can get a usb c to HDMI without the need for the otg connector...don't quote me though because I lost the thread I read it in...
Might want to try this.
Dex Station for Samsung Galaxy S8 S8 Plus Note8,Type C to HDMI + USB 3.0 Female,Type-C Charger Adapter for Nintendo Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V4SZKB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gtS4zbJXD5FDW
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Might want to try this.
Dex Station for Samsung Galaxy S8 S8 Plus Note8,Type C to HDMI + USB 3.0 Female,Type-C Charger Adapter for Nintendo Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V4SZKB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gtS4zbJXD5FDW
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Interesting.....in full disclosure, I got a Dex dock.....trying to decide if i'm going to keep it....
Seemed to find some traction for this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/wip-samsung-s8-dex-dex-station-t3605933

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