[Q] A Hardware Question - Anyone know about these USB cables? - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

http://i.imgur.com/2Bsal.jpg
That is a picture of the AC Adapter that came with my HTC Touch Pro. The cable was nice and flat, very easy to put away and pull out. It is a Mini-USB, and all new phones are Micro-USB, but I can't find a new version of that cable.
Does anyone know where I could find one? Either in AC form or just regular cable form. The retractable one in my car is shaped like that, but I can't find any on my own, so I look to my friends at XDA for help.

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USB plug: ok to use normal mini USB?

I just discovered -- accidentally -- that a standard mini USB plug not only fits in the Touch Pro's proprietary plug, but also charges and syncs normally!
To clarify (I hope):
* the Touch Pro's USB plug is shaped like this: l==/
* while a normal mini USB plug looks like this: \==/
Does this make sense?
Like most people, I have lots of normal USB cables lying around, and only one HTC type thing... Can anyone tell if it's totally ok to use a standard mini USB cable instead of HTC's "special" one? It can't damage anything electronically?
Robrecht said:
I just discovered -- accidentally -- that a standard mini USB plug not only fits in the Touch Pro's proprietary plug, but also charges and syncs normally!
To clarify (I hope):
* the Touch Pro's USB plug is shaped like this: l==/
* while a normal mini USB plug looks like this: \==/
Does this make sense?
Like most people, I have lots of normal USB cables lying around, and only one HTC type thing... Can anyone tell if it's totally ok to use a standard mini USB cable instead of HTC's "special" one? It can't damage anything electronically?
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Yes,that's normal thing it works. Different shape is present,because the same connector supplies also A/V signals. These pins are located opposite normal USB wires on the middle pin-plate(5 pins standard USB,6 pins Audio/Video). That's the difference and reason,why normal cable works with HTC devices.
Also I think the reason it's shaped like that is to stop you plugging the HTC one into other devices. Could be wrong though
TomasNM said:
Yes,that's normal thing it works. Different shape is present,because the same connector supplies also A/V signals. These pins are located opposite normal USB wires on the middle pin-plate(5 pins standard USB,6 pins Audio/Video). That's the difference and reason,why normal cable works with HTC devices.
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Thanks very much for this speedy answer!!
Cool, now I can use my collection of standard USB cables so I don't have to carry that one HTC cable around everywhere.
GaZ said:
Also I think the reason it's shaped like that is to stop you plugging the HTC one into other devices. Could be wrong though
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That makes sense. So HTC cable in normal USB plug: no, normal USB cable in HTC plug: yes.
Yes,the reason is that,you cannot use accessories(handset,adapters) on standart type models. Also all standart chargers are working,because charging pins are located on USB side.
Fuze Charging issues
Just to let eveyone know I originally tried to charge my Fuze using my old Tilt charger and the Fuze got hot and while it charged it took forever. I then switched to the charger supplied with the fuze and there was no heat and the devise charged very quickly. I don't know why but I thought eveyone should know
the raphael charger is 1A, while most chargers are 300-500mA, hence the slower charging. The heat shouldn't be though... so check if you get a nice and clean voltage

Mini to Micro USB Adapters

Hi all,
Has anybody got any of these? I have my old diamond 2 htc car charger and would like to be able to use it on the desire via an adapter. I understand most adapters only support charging?
Please post your experiences with any you have tried.
Thank you
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. They should have a full set of pins. Some cables only have the pins that are used for power.
BTW - someone is likely to ask why you are syncing your handset with your car cigarette lighter
indyjonesUK said:
Hi all,
Has anybody got any of these? I have my old diamond 2 htc car charger and would like to be able to use it on the desire via an adapter. I understand most adapters only support charging?
Please post your experiences with any you have tried.
Thank you
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i've bought some mini to micro usb adapters and they are great for charnging and sync as well. they are made in germany, delock is the manufacturer.
Have a look at my post in, "Not a Standard Micro USB power cable"
There is an adapter available from CPC in Preston (Mail order available, but don't know how much they charge) and also a couple of USB -> Micro USB leads available from them.
Also available, from Maplin is a 'micro' cigarette lighter to USB Adaptor to plug into your car which is quite a bit smaller and sleeker-looking than the one I currently use. For £5.99 it seems a reasonable deal.
bcmobile said:
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. They should have a full set of pins. Some cables only have the pins that are used for power.
BTW - someone is likely to ask why you are syncing your handset with your car cigarette lighter
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i sincerely had to laugh at that comment

Micro USB Hard wire kits.

Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
http://www.buybits.com/product/sku_6137.aspx
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?
ccunningham83 said:
Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
http://www.buybits.com/product/sku_6137.aspx
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?
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You could pick up one of the 12volt ciggarette adapters that plug into normal socket and have a standard usb port that provides 5 volts. Take it apart, add an inline fuse (if it doesn't already have one) and wire that into any 12 volt source and mount the usb port wherever you want (or chop and attach a mini usb cable and leave the cable hanging wherever you want).
I've found those for under $10.00 in the states and have done this identical mod before (for something else, but same idea).
ccunningham83 said:
Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
http://www.buybits.com/product/sku_6137.aspx
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?
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FYI, the 500ma spec of that unit is not sufficient to power and charge many modern smartphones, including the N1.
You are better of fabbing your own solution from a microusb car charger rated at [email protected] or better.
Charger lead -- this?
How about http://buybits.com/product/7441.aspx that seems to be what you're after but then all you need is a micro adaptor.
They might even do one.
Steve
you could DIY it?
grab a 12v 1amp car adaptor, take it apart, find a suitable box from your nearest maplins (radioshack = USA equiv?) and fit the electrics into the box.
replace the fused side of the 12v adaptor with a fuse, wire and 2x ring terminals to your battery.
since it has standard USB, your free to use anything you wish.
i've done things slightly differently, i got a 4-way 12v accessory unit, and hard-wired that into the car. (http://www.towsure.com/product/4_Way_Cigar_Lighter_Socket_Adaptor). that you way you charge multiple devices..
ccunningham83 said:
Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?
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Search for this at Amazon:
Hardwire Barewire Power Micro USB Cable for SmartPhones including Droid and Many Micro USB Devices:
amazon.com/Hardwire-Barewire-SmartPhones-including-Devices/dp/B005J4OTUO/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1360622241&sr=1-1&keywords=Hardwire+Barewire+Power+Micro+USB+Cable
I have this installed in my car.
Would post a link but do not have enough posts yet.

[Q] galaxy s to ipod dock... is it possible?

hey all
ive been roaming thru the forums n google searches trying to get all the info i need in order to create a galaxy to ipod dock connectivity.
im simply doing this as there is an abundant of idocks but nothing really for the galaxy.
my plan is to wire a micro usb and 3.5mm headfone jack into a female ipod cable (taken from an ipod extension cable) to create a small peice that can charge the phone and play music to the dock.
having all the cable outputs on top creates a sorta problem as the screen doesnt rotate upside down (not that im aware of anyway) so id have to create a sorta stand to incorporate it into
my question is, is it acheivable to charge, play music and maybe use for alarms etc? i kno in my head it makes sense but whats the thoughts of the more knowledgable people?
and can anyone help me out with pin numbers for bothe the ipod cable and the micro usb cable?
thank you all
Is this what you are looking for?
Quality is really good and with Voodoo Sound Control installed its really great!
Or if you are good in DIY than have a look here.
Hope this helps!
Try this: http://cgi.ebay.ph/Sprint-Anycom-Bl...er_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item2c54a47edb
it basically adds bluetooth functionality to ANY ipod dock..
it works, tried it with a car audio system.
@laurens something similar to that cable but im more interested with being able to charge my phone aswell. i sorta want to harness everything from the dock i can. so charging and playing music, much like i would get if i plugged an iphone onto the dock.
@neilbantoc nah im not a big fan of bluetoothing as it gives a pretty bad sound (usually) plus doesnt really charge the phone.
after much searching i found this link. its pretty much exactly what i want except its for a different phone
wow and i cant add links.... well i found it buy searching iPod dock adapter for the Motorola Droid/Milestone
what u think is it do-able with galaxy?
You can do audio and charging through the USB port, using a 365k resistor between pins 4 and 5 of the plug to enable desk dock mode, and some software to route the audio signal through the USB port. You can charge at the same time by supplying +5V through the Vin pin (pin 1) of the USB port.
The Apple dock pinouts are as shown on this "ipod dock adapter for Motorola Droid" post.
Using a Bluetooth dock adapter would give you the play control functions of the Apple Dock, I can't think of a way to get these with a direct connection.
hey guys all good got the phone to charge and sync using the cable but i cant get the 3.5mm TRS plug to work. tried numerous plugs but no go. ive got the wire strand shield twisted and goin to pinout 2, red wire goin to 3 and white going to 4.
i re wired it up n tested the cable n it works fine just cant get it to work when wired to the ipod board.
any ideas/help?
thank you LaurensJ!
you solved a problem i didnt think of trying to solve before...hehe

[Q] Philips AS111 force to charge

Hi all,
I have a Philips AS111 docking station/bluetooth speaker/charger. Worked perfectly for my SGS2, however, since I bought a new phone (Sony Xperia Z1 Compact) I'm experiencing some problems.
I bought an micro usb to magnetic connector adapter to be able to connect my phone to the dock without having to open the flaps all the time. I took it apart and it basicly splits the first and fifth pin of the micro USB connector to the pins in the magnetic connector. Unfortunately I may not link to external images...
Unfortunately, my phone does not charge when using the adapter in combination with the Philips dock. It does when using the original Sony USB charger and the adapter, so the adapter is fine.
I measured the voltage on the two pins, and it's 0V. I even tried to fool the dock by putting a 1.5kOhm resistor over several lines. Only when I put a 1.5kOhm resistor between 5V and the connector housing, the dock responded by turning on Bluetooth. Voltage went crazy, flipping between 0 and 3V, but phone still doesn't charge.
I think the sollution is to fool the dock by putting a certain resistor between certain lines or by shorting certain lines. Does anyone have a clue how to fool the dock to think there is a device connected, so it opens the +5V line?
Thank you very much!
Nobody into usb connection protocols? :crying:
Finally got it working. Eventually I needed to connect two wires together inside the device. One of them being 'CLAS1' and the other was Ground. Both could be found on the connector going to the micro usb plug of the device. Unfortunately I can not post a link to the photo I made of it.
mblox said:
Finally got it working. Eventually I needed to connect two wires together inside the device. One of them being 'CLAS1' and the other was Ground. Both could be found on the connector going to the micro usb plug of the device. Unfortunately I can not post a link to the photo I made of it.
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Hello!
I've just bought an AS111. Charges perfectly my SGS4 but it doesn't do a thing when I try connecting my SGN3 (the one with the micro-usb 3 connector) to the Philips dock. I know that the micro-usb 3 is backwards compatible but I do believe that the AS111's dock outputs too little power - or something like that, I am no expert.
I was wondering that maybe your experience could be of help to me. What do you think? If so, could you please guide me through the stuff you did to the dock? Thank you!

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