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So I got a question I keep reading that the transformer has no USB host support for like Xbox controllers and stuff but I swore it had a micro USB I could be wrong I do not own one yet. But if it doesn't have USB slots is there a way to hook up stuff like that or are you forced to get the dock that I do not want
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Wdustin1 said:
So I got a question I keep reading that the transformer has no USB host support for like Xbox controllers and stuff but I swore it had a micro USB I could be wrong I do not own one yet. But if it doesn't have USB slots is there a way to hook up stuff like that or are you forced to get the dock that I do not want
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No USB on the tablet. Micro SD card is available
The are supposed to be releasing a USB adaptor

So when they realease the adaptor we will be able to hook up controllers and stuff and acctually take advantage of what 3.1 has to offer ?
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Wdustin1 said:
So when they realease the adaptor we will be able to hook up controllers and stuff and acctually take advantage of what 3.1 has to offer ?
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You are able now to use USB host on the tablet, if you buy a female to female adapter and hook it up to the charging cable. At least this is what I read here.

bcostea said:
You are able now to use USB host on the tablet, if you buy a female to female adapter and hook it up to the charging cable. At least this is what I read here.
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Almost nothing works that way because there is no power line in the charging cable.

I guess you need to have the laptop accessory to take advantage of USB controllers ect?

So I have heard that they are going to be releasing a USB adapter is this true or are they going to force you to buy the dock for host functions
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The adapter has been confirmed, but nobody at Asus could give me a date when it will be available.
edit: Apparently a german online shop is listing the usb adapter for 20 Eur and has the item in stock: cyberport.de/notebook/zubehoer/kabel-adapter/adapter---usb/1D09-36X/asus-usb-extension-kit-fuer-eee-pad-transformer.html
Hopefully it's coming to Amazon soon!

has anyone teated that USB adapter from that German website?

it's been released a couple of days ago. take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155196&page=10
there are a couple of pictures
so far it's not available in the us though (mainly europe afaik)

just bought this from b&h
www bhphotovideo com
/c/product/812009-REG/ASUS_90_OK06CR00010_USB_Kit_for_TF101.html
only 11 bucks, 14 with shipping, hope it works. hope it works!

they are also on ebay and amazon.

the usb port device I listed above works just fine on my tf101

DIY Atrix 2 HD Dock * Updated OP*

I have had a project in mind for a few weeks now. I have been contemplating making a homemade HD dock for the Atrix 2. I know the dock is not that expensive, but I just can't justify buying one. Let me know what you guys think.
Enough positive response ill post pictures for it along the way/step by step.
EDIT: I forgot to mention but i will also try to add a powered usb hub so the phone will also be a Usb Host for External Storage, Mouse/Keyboards, and any other things we can think of.
EDIT#2: I have not abandoned you all, just ran into a busy patch with work and home life. Should anyone feel the need to give it a go by all means. Through my research it looks like the only way to create a fully working HD Dock is to modify another one designed for another Phone. I have found posts on the interwebs to suggest this. I dont believe the Webtop Will activate with just a Micro usb and Micro HDMI cable plugged in simultainously. ( Sorry for any typos )

That sounds great! Good luck with it. Please post pictures/instructions if you can.
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In for results! I agree i can't justify buying a dock too.

I about broke down and purchased a dock the other day, but now am I glad I did not, good luck, and keep us posted!!

Good luck and please do post pics.
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I was thinking about the same thing. I can't see spending the $ for a chunk of plastic with a micro usb connector in it.

It's simple to make a USB powered with OTG host capability.
Is it that what are you trying to do ?
With the hdmi cable/adaptor i think you get pretty close to a dock.

MrLLama209 said:
I have had a project in mind for a few weeks now. I have been contemplating making a homemade HD dock for the Atrix 2. I know the dock is not that expensive, but I just can't justify buying one. Let me know what you guys think.
Enough positive response ill post pictures for it along the way/step by step.
EDIT: I forgot to mention but i will also try to add a powered usb hub so the phone will also be a Usb Host for External Storage, Mouse/Keyboards, and any other things we can think of.
EDIT#2: I have not abandoned you all, just ran into a busy patch with work and home life. Should anyone feel the need to give it a go by all means. Through my research it looks like the only way to create a fully working HD Dock is to modify another one designed for another Phone. I have found posts on the interwebs to suggest this. I dont believe the Webtop Will activate with just a Micro usb and Micro HDMI cable plugged in simultainously. ( Sorry for any typos )
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I don't have any docks so I can't experiment with Webtop... however if you can hardware-wise get a DIY HD dock then I'm sure we can figure out how to patch the necessary apks to get Webtop to activate.

cogeary If you go to this Thread it is an app that tricks your phone into thinking its been connected to something that enables WEBTOP or any other dock options for that matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357600

MrLLama209 said:
cogeary If you go to this Thread it is an app that tricks your phone into thinking its been connected to something that enables WEBTOP or any other dock options for that matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357600
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Oh OK, thanks... so in that case it means that in order to get a fully functional HD dock you don't have to modify an official one for a different phone, correct?

No, not technically. I was doing this project just so no extra junk had to be installed as well as the option of adding usb ports to work with webtop .

[Q] USB Hosting on ICS, possible for the G2x?

Hi. I've just recently tried out an app from the market that would let me control emulators and some games with a Wii remote, but it wasn't compatible with my G2x. However, I stumbled upon what is most commonly known as "OTG" cable, but discovered they were worthless for the G2x as of now because 2.3 doesn't have USB hosting.
What I wanted to know is, number one, will the G2x have USB hosting when the official 4.0 update comes out, or is it missing some special hardware needed for that? And number two, is there any risks in just getting a cheap MicroUSB to Female USB cable from a trusted seller? Like, can it damage any internal parts because of different voltages between devices or something like that? Or is the worst thing that can happen is the cable simply not working?
I'd really appreciate an answer on this one, because USB hosting seems to open up a lot of possibilities with our devices.

The short answer as of right now is NO there aren't any common ways to enable USB Host. With that said, can the Tegra2 chip in the G2x support host mode?...yes. Will it require a custom kernel?...yes. So basically your phone needs to be rooted to say the least and a kernel framework to enable and support it. I'm actually looking into this as we speak but it's looking like it'll be a while.
As for the cable... no most generic micro-USB cable won't work as is. The OTG cables have either a 'grounded' 4th pin or a disconnected 4th in some usb host modes. But either way you either need an OTG cable or if you search online you can find several ways to splice and solder back generic USB.

I have been looking for a while, but there doesn't seem to a custom kernel that supports USB Host mode. I already have USB OTG adapter (mini Male to 4 pin USB female) + arduino board etc.. So are there any custom kernels out there?

oOo B0XeR oOo said:
The short answer as of right now is NO there aren't any common ways to enable USB Host. With that said, can the Tegra2 chip in the G2x support host mode?...yes. Will it require a custom kernel?...yes. So basically your phone needs to be rooted to say the least and a kernel framework to enable and support it. I'm actually looking into this as we speak but it's looking like it'll be a while.
As for the cable... no most generic micro-USB cable won't work as is. The OTG cables have either a 'grounded' 4th pin or a disconnected 4th in some usb host modes. But either way you either need an OTG cable or if you search online you can find several ways to splice and solder back generic USB.
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this^^^
Nothing had really changed on this front, if you want to use Android as an ardi interface, I'd suggest you grab a cheapo phone that supports it out of the box.
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Any update on this? Seems ICS/JB roms are out now... any strides in getting OTG to work? I'm looking to make a G2x into a dedicated TV gamer unit to replace my MK808 and forgot about OTG for my air mouse. I have a Bluetooth mouse to get me by but the airmouse was awesome.
I guess I can look for a Bluetooth airmouse as a last resort.

player911 said:
I bring you back to life!!!
Any update on this? Seems ICS/JB roms are out now... any strides in getting OTG to work? I'm looking to make a G2x into a dedicated TV gamer unit to replace my MK808 and forgot about OTG for my air mouse. I have a Bluetooth mouse to get me by but the airmouse was awesome.
I guess I can look for a Bluetooth airmouse as a last resort.
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No OTG happiness for the G2X with any ROM and/or Kernel. There is a board from Sparkfun which provides an interface that enables a non-OTG phone to work like one for interfacing to Arduino, etc.
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10748?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19967110&postcount=8

MHL OTG

Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!

kennyry said:
Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!
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I have the same cable and mhl works as long add the rom supports it. As for your question I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741583&page=21 and on the last page there is a link for someone who got it to work on as3 however our phones have different pin configuration but you should be able to do the same thing as him

OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.

lart2150 said:
OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.
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Well my Skyrocket screen was destroyed by my youngest son So, I had an idea to use the old phone with the MHL adapter to connect to my TV (which is not a smart TV). The need for the OTG is to plug in peripherals such as kb/mouse, but after further review, i could probably just use bluetooth. The device itself doesn't need to have much storage really, all of the movies are being streamed from my mini home server (DLNA).
So instead of going out and spending 60 on a smart TV adapater, I figured I would try to make use of what I already had, a phone with a broken screen. I'm not even sure the digitizer works and I was unable to find a replacement screen a decent price. The phone has already been replaced with a Nexus 4, so I'm not really concerned with the "safety" of the skyrocket.
I think it would be nice to use it as a TV adapter, surf net, play games watch movies while in bed using a wireless mouse/keyboard.
You would think there would already be something like this out there...
I came across this, then noticed their statement "Use Bluetooth keyboard for wireless control" Which really tells me no OTG... and heard was broken ha.
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streamer-MHL-Charging-Dock/dp/tech-data/B0094M3DZY/ref=de_a_smtd

Moto Z2 Play and the Atrix Lapdock

Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella

USB c generally does more. It supports external drives and even charging other devices.

Z2 Play doesn't support video out over USB C.

I looked into this a bit because I also was interested in using my Lapdock. I investigated the possibility of making a mod that would do this, but you'd have to convert between the DSI output from the Moto Mod interface to an HDMI output. Perhaps you could build an interface to use this device from STM: B-LCDAD-HDMI1, or perhaps build a board around something like the ADV7533, but it looks like you have to have a license for HDMI development to buy those. I also tried my Chromebook USB-C dock with my Z2 Play and can confirm that it doesn't seem to work.
In any case, there's not an easy solution, sorry! I would definitely be interested in working on a project like this, but it doesn't look very feasible right now.

This should be very doable. You will first need a Moto Mod Development kit and use the Compute firmware on it. You then need a MyDP to Micro HDMI cable and a microUSB to USB-C OTG cable. You should be able to connect it and have it behave as you want it to behave. To create your own Moto Mod that did that would require assistance from Motorola but you can do a prototype basically as I have told you.

Thanks yall! I have absolutely no idea how to even find a moto mod development kit, yet alone how to use one, so I guess that dream will have to be shelved for a while. Please continue to post if anything changes!
Krella

You can buy the Moto Mod Development Kit here. There are frequently out of stock so buy get it quickly if you want it.

KrellaKrentoshi said:
Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
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Hey man did you tried it with this adapter?

No, not yet. If you try it, please let me know how it does!

KrellaKrentoshi said:
No, not yet. If you try it, please let me know how it does!
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Would you mind to link me the excatly model of adapter that you have found?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LAD2FIA/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think I may need to build a specialized cable. There is a different adapter, one from best buy someone showed me once that may work without any modification. I will post the link to that cable later

Can you post specs on the lapdock to Pi cable?
KrellaKrentoshi said:
Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
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I have a MotoZ and Z2 and still can't figure out why moto can't just create a laptop mod where the KDB/mouse is "usb" and the video treated the same as they do with the projector mod. I have 2 lapdocks collecting dust so if I can use them with the Rpi 3 that would be GREAT!
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What I think would really solve this is a mod that goes on the back on the Z and has 5V 3A+ input, an HDMI port, and 1+ usb3 port(S). The USB3 port can accept a std USB hub and then any HDMI cables/adapters can be used. The 5V input would charge the phone, power the mod, and potentially even the USB port(s). Then you can not only use the lapdock but also can use the device as a"media dock" to connect the phone to TV, kdb, mouse, wireless remote via usb, etc. Even just taking any battery mod and just adding wireless charging and any size HDMI out port would work as the phones USB port can be hooked to a commodity USB hub.
In my mind today's phones are fully capable desktop class systems and all that is missing is:
1. Linux/chrome app to act like wine and allow me to run APKs on my desktop/browser
2. APK I install of wine and the equivalent for Linux so wine compatible apps and Linux x apps run on phone.
An alternative to item one above that works too is a chrome/desktop app that may or may not have the ADK embedded in it but creates a local "X server" type of setup so I can "run" apps remotely on my PC the same as when I ssh from a Linus desktop to a Linux server and run X apps over that. Either a cable, wifi, or BT can be used to make the connection.
Shame things like the lapdocks, Entourage Edge, etc came out ahead of their time and too soon for the market. They were revolutionary (and still are) and if created today I think wold be a HUGE hit!

rhce_v6 said:
Can you post specs on the lapdock to Pi cable?
I have a MotoZ and Z2 and still can't figure out why moto can't just create a laptop mod where the KDB/mouse is "usb" and the video treated the same as they do with the projector mod. I have 2 lapdocks collecting dust so if I can use them with the Rpi 3 that would be GREAT!
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What I think would really solve this is a mod that goes on the back on the Z and has 5V 3A+ input, an HDMI port, and 1+ usb3 port(S). The USB3 port can accept a std USB hub and then any HDMI cables/adapters can be used. The 5V input would charge the phone, power the mod, and potentially even the USB port(s). Then you can not only use the lapdock but also can use the device as a"media dock" to connect the phone to TV, kdb, mouse, wireless remote via usb, etc. Even just taking any battery mod and just adding wireless charging and any size HDMI out port would work as the phones USB port can be hooked to a commodity USB hub.
In my mind today's phones are fully capable desktop class systems and all that is missing is:
1. Linux/chrome app to act like wine and allow me to run APKs on my desktop/browser
2. APK I install of wine and the equivalent for Linux so wine compatible apps and Linux x apps run on phone.
An alternative to item one above that works too is a chrome/desktop app that may or may not have the ADK embedded in it but creates a local "X server" type of setup so I can "run" apps remotely on my PC the same as when I ssh from a Linus desktop to a Linux server and run X apps over that. Either a cable, wifi, or BT can be used to make the connection.
Shame things like the lapdocks, Entourage Edge, etc came out ahead of their time and too soon for the market. They were revolutionary (and still are) and if created today I think wold be a HUGE hi
I agree, they sure would be a huge hit! I keep breaking my screen. I sure wish I could just dock the phone to my lapdock and use that till I can get my screen replaced
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