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Can't check for software update after relocked bootloader

I unlocked , installed custom on my phone, then I relocked my bootloader and flash stock att2.20 by running ruu.exe. now, everytime I checked for software update, it always says service unavailable. Do you guys know anything about this problem? Btw, my phone is unlocked and use T-Mobile.
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tritran18518 said:
I unlocked , installed custom on my phone, then I relocked my bootloader and flash stock att2.20 by running ruu.exe. now, everytime I checked for software update, it always says service unavailable. Do you guys know anything about this problem? Btw, my phone is unlocked and use T-Mobile.
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You realize you can't update a stock AT&T device via T-Mobile, even if you're using a T-Mobile sim card?

iElvis said:
You realize you can't update a stock AT&T device via T-Mobile, even if you're using a T-Mobile sim card?
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No, before I could check and it said "no software update available this time" when I used T-Mobile simcard.
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Mine says No Service when I check. HTC One X using Tmobile sim.

jiggamanjb said:
Mine says No Service when I check. HTC One X using Tmobile sim.
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Maybe phone need to be connect to att service by att simcard first. Thanks all.
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It always puzzles me why do people on custom ROMs want to get OTAs?
AT&T JB isn't rolling out yet. When it does, it will get posted in Development in a TWRP-flashable rooted form.
I also doubt the OTA will feature much (if anything) that is not already present in the JB Sense ROMs already up in Development, plus all of AT&T's bloatware crap and other meddling. Possibly including a new hboot that will mess up even more stuff this time.

rogers one X n00b help thread

Hi Guys!
Just wanted to introduce myself and ask a bunch of n00bish questions.
I recently acquired an HTC One X on Rogers for dirt cheap (basically $0) and this is my first Android phone having used an iPhone for the past few years. I'm not completely lost around ROMs having cut my teeth on windows mobile phones right here on xda-devs years ago but my iPhone took me away for a number of years.
I've gone through as much of the existing FAQs and help threads as I could but I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers for: Hopefully these are simple enough for the folks here!
1) My HOX out of the box is running FW version 1.73, Android 4.0.3. I see there's some bootloader unlocking issues with AT&T HOX's with FW 1.85 and 2.2 and above. Do these restrictions not apply to the Rogers HOX? Is there a point i should be worried about not having an unlockable bootloader?
2) My ultimate goal is to get a maintainable ROM where I can easily get OS updates without having to manually reload any custom settings or apps. Being an Android n00b, I consistently hear about Cyanogenmod ROMs. Can I jump from my current Stock ROM straight to Cyanogenmod 10.1 JB? or do I have to do something in between?
3) Are there other community ROMs that's better for the HOX than CM? I'm looking for a plain jane out of box experience. I really love how the iPhone works really really great out of the box without any huge amount of setting changes. And that's what I strived for with my old windows mobile device ROMs.
4) Yay or Nay on HTC Sense?
5) Yay or Nay on Staying on the Stock Rogers ROMs (I think the JB update is available now).
6) If I elect to do all the OTA updates, is there something I should avoid like a permanent locked bootloader version or something like that?
7) If I install all the OTA updates and eventually end up on the Rogers JB rom (I assume it's a bunch of incremental updates since auto updates shows I have update 1.93 which isn't the JB rom), can I revert back to the 4.0.3 rom?
I think that's it for now... Sorry for the long list. it definitely grew as I typed it!
Thanks a tonne! I know how great a resource xda-devs was and is. Can't wait to get into all of this again. !

Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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Venomtester said:
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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apologies for my probing questions as I'm trying to flesh out the dependencies of everything...
Does the rogers HOX need to be s-off'd when flashing custom ROMs.
How do OTA updates work? Do they only apply to a certain kind of stock ROMs? Do custom ROMs have OTA updates?
thanks,

Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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Venomtester said:
Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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When you say I shouldn't take an OTA update after unlocking the bootloader, why is that?
Let's say I unlock the bootloader, but keep the stock rogers ROM and OTA update it. These are just OS updates right? they shouldn't touch the bootloader or do they?
Also, if the Rogers Bootloader is not locked down, then do I even need to unlock it? or do you guys mean it's unlockABLE and still needs to be unlocked?
Does rooting also make a device not OTA'able?
Finally, how are the bootloaders tied to the FW version and to the OS version? Coming from an iPhone, there was the baseband/Radio FW and OS versions, and sometimes a specific hardware version, but that's it. what's the heirarchy for the bootloader and the FW, and the OS?
finally, if there's a good resource that answers a lot of these "android rom 101" questions, please send along a link. I know you guys are busy!
Thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37665520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40223035
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Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,

mr_yellow said:
Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
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Step 2 should be flash TWRP 2.3.x.x no need for superboot r2?... not sure what that is.
And you'll need to flash a rooted rom before S-OFF or let TWRP root your rom if your hboot is under 2.14

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Venomtester said:
Deleted. Sorry ex ad. Didn't see your post.
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Lol, I don't care if other people answer too, so long as they're not answering with the wrong info. There's a few of us so it's hard to coordinate Didn't mean to jack your helping

Oh no sir. You didn't jack at all as I was going to quote your earlier post from a different thread.
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Thanks again guys!

Venomtester said:
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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My two Rogers one x handsets came with lock bootloaders. I just unlocked my second on on Saturday.
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What he was saying is they can be unlocked without having to change the cid which is what us with att phones have to do
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M8 Verizon not able to be unlocked through HTC Dev

Looks like you can't unlock the bootloader through HTC Dev on the VZW M8 Just got mine and tried and get the dreaded Error 160 MID Not Allowed.

Ohhhhh, that is garbage
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Good ol Verizon locking their phones down again
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bloodiedwraith said:
Looks like you can't unlock the bootloader through HTC Dev on the VZW M8 Just got mine and tried and get the dreaded Error 160 MID Not Allowed.
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IM sure someone will find way!

Why don't you try firewater s-off to see if the exploit still works? Please report back with your findings.
eidt: devs have said it could brick device, would not recommend doing it.

Thread Moved over to the Verizon M8 forum as it makes more sense to be here than the International forum
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- KidCarter93
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bloodiedwraith said:
Looks like you can't unlock the bootloader through HTC Dev on the VZW M8 Just got mine and tried and get the dreaded Error 160 MID Not Allowed.
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Just Tried. Can't Believe big red would do this to us. Time to dig out that ice cream and just wait till either community cracks it or htc actually lets us through.

FadedLite said:
Can't Believe big red would do this to us.
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REALLY? This was the most predictable thing that Verizon could of done. Besides scribbling on the home power button and etching on the back,
"Dear consumers, we don't care..."
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Verizon Rage.... |
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Not sure why anyone is suprised. Those of us with the M7 knew this month's ago. For the first day after the M7 was released you could use HTC DEV unlock then VZ made HTC lock that down for the M7.
I too hoped maybe VZ had not gotten to HTC yet for the M8 so I tried but no luck. Will need to wait for rumrunner or firewater to be updated to support the M8. It may take a while....

Mike02z said:
Not sure why anyone is suprised. Those of us with the M7 knew this month's ago. For the first day after the M7 was released you could use HTC DEV unlock then VZ made HTC lock that down for the M7.
I too hoped maybe VZ had not gotten to HTC yet for the M8 so I tried but no luck. Will need to wait for rumrunner or firewater to be updated to support the M8. It may take a while....
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I'm coming from a Note 3 so I'm not familiar with the M7, did rumrunner or Firewater allow for running custom asop roms?
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PhilPan said:
I'm coming from a Note 3 so I'm not familiar with the M7, did rumrunner or Firewater allow for running custom asop roms?
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Yes sir. Rumrunner gave you S-Off which is "Signature Off". Once that is set, you can flash custom recoveries and then custom rom's. It took months for the team to get this working and I know it did not work on 4.4.2. I think we are in for a long wait. If you bought this hoping you could get custom rom's you might want to reconsdier. If you like the phone and can live with it stock for a few months, it's a great device.
The M7 was the best phone I ever had and I swap phones a lot.

FadedLite said:
Just Tried. Can't Believe big red would do this to us.
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That's sarcasm, right?

it will get unlocked. name another htc phone that hasn't?

oneandroidnut said:
it will get unlocked. name another htc phone that hasn't?
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The stock One with 4.4.2 has not been able to achieve S-Off without a Java card. At lest not last time I looked.

Mike02z said:
The stock One with 4.4.2 has not been able to achieve S-Off without a Java card. At lest not last time I looked.
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oh boy not good LOL

This phone has an sd slot. The earlier one didn't. Easier to hack from what I remember

Well what about root? With xposed, root alone can provide a lot of nice added functionality before the bootloader is figured out

Just picked up the M8. Tried HTC Dev and failed

ocman40 said:
This phone has an sd slot. The earlier one didn't. Easier to hack from what I remember
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Couldn't agree more. I'm fine if we get custom recovery at some point but I'd really love to get titanium on and remove some of this Verizon crap... I mean stuff....
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myron317 said:
Couldn't agree more. I'm fine if we get custom recovery at some point but I'd really love to get titanium on and remove some of this Verizon crap... I mean stuff....
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I disabled it all until then.

[Q] Can Verizon HTC One M8 be converted to Developer Edition ?

Can Verizon HTC One M8 be converted to Developer Edition like it was possible with M7 ?
If so then would please guide me to the page ?
Thanks in advance

rachitboom2 said:
Can Verizon HTC One M8 be converted to Developer Edition like it was possible with M7 ?
If so then would please guide me to the page ?
Thanks in advance
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What do you mean developer edition? Like, what constitutes one?
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richii0207 said:
What do you mean developer edition? Like, what constitutes one?
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I meant the official developer edition M8, without Verizon bloatware and it gets the fastest software updates directly from HTC.
Like my At&t M7 converted to Developer Edition received kitkat update 1 month before At&t released it.

I always thought if you had a carrier specific phone, you needed to receive any update through that specific carrier.
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rachitboom2 said:
Can Verizon HTC One M8 be converted to Developer Edition like it was possible with M7 ?
If so then would please guide me to the page ?
Thanks in advance
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Don't use the gpe ruu method. Gsm folks are still trying to figure out how to get the system partition back to normal size after using that. Just run a gpe Rom.
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I'm not talking about converting to gpe, I'm asking if its possible to convert to developer edition, i like sense ui. I don't like Verizon bloatware. And updates from htc have to go through verizon before they are released. So it takes longer.
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IF there is a way, I haven't heard of one.
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rachitboom2 said:
I meant the official developer edition M8, without Verizon bloatware and it gets the fastest software updates directly from HTC.
Like my At&t M7 converted to Developer Edition received kitkat update 1 month before At&t released it.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the only difference between the developer edition and the normal One is the unlocked bootloader. Outside of that, everything else is identical. The only software differences are between the VZW models and the GPE model. So to convert your phone to a developer edition, you would need to unlock the bootloader and that's really it.

The easy answer to this question is no. There is not a CDMA version of the Developer Edition HTC One M8. This is the same reason why there is no GPE conversion available.
My advice would be to just to unlock and run a Sense ROM. These will have most if not all bloat removed in addition to some nice customization options
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How can i update my One M8

Hey, i recently bought an Unlocked Verizon HTC One M8,
im using a gsm sim card, everything works fine, but(and i know there is not an update yet) when im going to software update it says that the phone can update only in CDMA mode,
what can i do about it?
Thanks

or207 said:
Hey, i recently bought an Unlocked Verizon HTC One M8,
im using a gsm sim card, everything works fine, but(and i know there is not an update yet) when im going to software update it says that the phone can update only in CDMA mode,
what can i do about it?
Thanks
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Do you have any friends who are on VZW and have either a Moto X or iPhone 5/5S? The reason I ask, is because those 2 phones take a nano SIM card like the M8 does. When a software update comes out, try using their SIM card in your phone to take the update. That's the easiest way I can think of.
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evltwn72 said:
Do you have any friends who are on VZW and have either a Moto X or iPhone 5/5S? The reason I ask, is because those 2 phones take a nano SIM card like the M8 does. When a software update comes out, try using their SIM card in your phone to take the update. That's the easiest way I can think of.
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unfortunately i bought the HTC from us and in my country (israel) there is no CDMA.. there is no VZW here..

or207 said:
unfortunately i bought the HTC from us and in my country (israel) there is no CDMA.. there is no VZW here..
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You may still be able to check it while on Wi-Fi. What does it say if you go into settings and do a software update check?
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evltwn72 said:
You may still be able to check it while on Wi-Fi. What does it say if you go into settings and do a software update check?
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I can't attach photos yet apparently..
It says:
Software update only work in CDMA mode.
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or207 said:
I can't attach photos yet apparently..
It says:
Software update only work in CDMA mode.
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Well you might be stuck then without rooting and ROM'ing your phone. Hopefully sometime else might know. Sorry I couldn't help you more.
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I'm pretty sure you'll have to s-off and then root your phone to push the firmware update.
the Red Viper ROM

So given that my phone is in the same situation as the original poster, all I have to do is to s-off and root my phone to push the update?
How would the update be done if it's rooted? I just want to update the firmware, I have no intention of adding a custom rom or anything, just whatever sense version is the latest on verizon now

buzzer555 said:
So given that my phone is in the same situation as the original poster, all I have to do is to s-off and root my phone to push the update?
How would the update be done if it's rooted? I just want to update the firmware, I have no intention of adding a custom rom or anything, just whatever sense version is the latest on verizon now
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Yes, you should be able to install just the firmware/radios. There is a thread in the android development section specifically for the installation of the firmware/radios. You will definitely need s-off to install them. There is also a thread on that - it's actually really easy. I had my brand new m8 s-off'd and rooted in about 20 minutes.