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Wireless charging and cases

I've noticed that in order to enable wireless charging for the S4 you have to replace the back cover with the one in the kit, but then that means you can't use a case like the S-View etc as they also need their own back cover. Has there been any word on wireless charging enabled versions of the S-view or normal flip cover?

I'd like to know so for the S-View too. Thanks.

I know it makes your phone thicker, I'm not sure any cases will work with the back cover.
Is the wireless back cover even available to purchase yet? I want one ASAP. I read somewhere its release was pushed back...anybody know anything?
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Get something like this
Wireless charging insert
Just match up the copper to the pins and and use copper tape. Any standard case will fit.

Do those wireless inserts really work?

mindtrip1016 said:
Do those wireless inserts really work?
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never used them myself but i think so

I had the insert in my s3 and it work great.
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iredline5 said:
I had the insert in my s3 and it work great.
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care to upload some pics ?
thanks

As far as I know, the S View Cover has wireless charging built in

Walvater said:
As far as I know, the S View Cover has wireless charging built in
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It does not. it has no induction coil, no power contacts.

Found one insert that will be shipping shortly to work with any Galaxy S4 back cover
(They have a Galaxy S III version as well if interested)
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/wiqiqi-wireless-charger-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s4-or-s3-ultra-thin-light
I will definitely be picking this up for the fact that it's not a mod but an official design for the S4 and you can use any back cover with it (avoiding the thicker official wireless charging back cover as well). :good:

That's awesome! I wanna get 1 as well while living outside US.

If only Samsung didn't offer awesome items then completely let us down everytime. Either way I need something QI soon to go with my Nexus QI charger.

Another sale point through Monster Watts
http://www.monsterwatts.com/Galaxy_S4.html

I would like to know, if those alternative qi receivers the NFC functionality

Walvater said:
As far as I know, the S View Cover has wireless charging built in
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I can confirm it definitely does not. The S view case is really poor IMO, sent mine back for a refund straight away.
One other potential problem I've been thinking about, if you want wireless charging I'm presuming that you won't be able to put an extra case on your phone as that would act like a barrier? That's a shame.
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gazhowell said:
One other potential problem I've been thinking about, if you want wireless charging I'm presuming that you won't be able to put an extra case on your phone as that would act like a barrier? That's a shame.
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I think the Qi charging works through a lot of cases.
I'm curious to hear if anyone gets an insert to work with the stock back cover. There seems to be much less space under the cover in comparison to the S3 so I'd be surprised if any of the inserts will be thin enough to fit.

piecko said:
I would like to know, if those alternative qi receivers the NFC functionality
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Same question for those who have used them on note 2/s3 or have one on s4

dacbeth said:
Another sale point through Monster Watts
http://www.monsterwatts.com/Galaxy_S4.html
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Preordered!
piecko said:
I would like to know, if those alternative qi receivers the NFC functionality
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Hmm...that's actually a good point. Maybe we can reach out to someone from the S III users to find out who used this one.

piecko said:
I would like to know, if those alternative qi receivers the NFC functionality
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nba1341 said:
Same question for those who have used them on note 2/s3 or have one on s4
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According to two reviews here, NFC does work: Link
EDIT: Another one confirming working NFC - Link
I think we're good. :good:

Accessories for sale at Best Buy

Wondering if anyone has any information on any accessories possibly coming to a best buy store. At my local store I only saw 1 case that was a brand I've never heard of. I'm hoping for maybe the powermat quick circle case, or any official lg case. Anything more than 1 case

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Wondering if anyone has any information on any accessories possibly coming to a best buy store. At my local store I only saw 1 case that was a brand I've never heard of. I'm hoping for maybe the powermat quick circle case, or any official lg case. Anything more than 1 case
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BestBuy finally received 5 cases for the LG G3
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...ist=y&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&iht=n&seeAll=
I can't believe they got the circle case!!!!

Coldheat1906 said:
BestBuy finally received 5 cases for the LG G3
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...ist=y&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&iht=n&seeAll=
I can't believe they got the circle case!!!!
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Finally! That's good news! Thanks

Except the circle case is the snap on case and not one that replaces the back.

sic0048 said:
Except the circle case is the snap on case and not one that replaces the back.
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Personally I would like the snap on one better because of the whole wireless charging problem, I would like to have wireless charging but $60 for the att pma case + a charging pad is too much. Considering buying the snap on case and adding a magnet like this: http://www.amazon.com/Spigen®-Samsu...&qid=1406300654&sr=8-1&keywords=spigen+magnet to keep it closed.

ez4nick said:
Personally I would like the snap on one better because of the whole wireless charging problem, I would like to have wireless charging but $60 for the att pma case + a charging pad is too much. Considering buying the snap on case and adding a magnet like this: http://www.amazon.com/Spigen®-Samsu...&qid=1406300654&sr=8-1&keywords=spigen+magnet to keep it closed.
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Well the snap on case is $49.99 and that magnet you want is $9.99. That's $59.98 plus potential shipping. How is that any cheaper than $60? You don't have to buy a charging pad to use the case..... lol.

Qi Charging

Had anyone found a reputable source for a Qi reciever for the Edge yet?
I am not interested in the charging back (unless it is compatible with flip wallet).

kirkla79 said:
Had anyone found a reputable source for a Qi reciever for the Edge yet?
I am not interested in the charging back (unless it is compatible with flip wallet).
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they arent since the flip wallet and charge back replace the battery cover.
i would say that we wont hear anything until the end of the year.

I bought a note 4 receiver to see if it would work. Will report results when it gets by here.
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This is the only qi receiver I found. The one I have for my note 4 wont work the contact points are in different spots.http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-SAM...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item1c48874cb9

m.ebay .com/itm/131336783420?_mwBanner=1
I ordered this. I had to put spaces in the link since I don't have enough posts to post links yet.

Absolutezero91 said:
m.ebay .com/itm/131336783420?_mwBanner=1
I ordered this. I had to put spaces in the link since I don't have enough posts to post links yet.
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I believe he said that's not what he wants.
He wants the foil pad you attach to your phone then he can put his flip battery cover on.
Vs replace that with a charge back.
I had a pad on my Note 3. I'm willing to bet they will have then the beginning of next year.

You can always get a universal qi receiver. I've seen them on Amazon that plug into the micro USB port and sit underneath the back cover or between the phone and a case.

Note 4 receiver doesn't work
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I am looking at getting the Edge and was wondering if anyone has had any luck? I was wanting a TPU case and not a samsung backing which you can't put a case on?

Qi+NFC+AT&T G3, no hardware hacking.

Greetings!
Like many of you (or so I've read) I was on the hunt for some way to get my AT&T G3 to support Qi charging. It all seemed hopeless. I believe I have solved the problem with the least amount of 'hassle' and the least amount of loss of functionality of the phone as possible (its cheap too!). You also don't even need to open your phone up.
I have Qi chargers all over the place already from my last phone, so Qi was crucial to adopting the G3 and not swapping it for something else (AT&T had a great deal and it was free on a new phone line).
I found a gadget that basically has 1 downside, that being, that it consumes your USB port. For me that's not a huge deal because I never plug my phone into anything other than a charger, and with Qi, no need. I've seen people talk about it on here before, but couldn't find any cases where someone bought one.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The device is here: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
$9.96 at the moment.
HOWEVER, there is a BIG DOWNSIDE at first! If you put the Qi receiver inside your phone behind the outer shell, the existing NFC antenna squashes the signal and it won't charge.
I have a Spigen case for the G3 like my Nexus5 (great cases IMHO), so I said "well what if I just leave the cover off", so I did, and put the Spigen case back on. It worked. At first I was going to leave it, since it still fit fine in the case like that. I thought more about it though and realized dust and other badness would get into the phone if I did that.
So I wondered if I just put the wireless antenna OUTSIDE of the phone, so between the Spigen case and the phone itself, run the USB cable down to the USB port, tape it in place so it doesn't move around...
It totally worked. So no need to even open the phone. Just plug this thing into the USB port, line it up well inside the back of a case/cover, tape it down with some heat resistant tape, and put your case on.
With the Spigen case you can barely even see it, and it certainly does not protrude beyond the border of the case. Even without the Spigen case on with this thing, the extra plastic sticking out is very minimal and hardly noticeable.
I was pretty happy with this at that point, and left it alone.. But then I wondered, does NFC still work? Its being blocked now by the Qi module, AND the Spigen case.. I wonder...
NFC works fine still too.
Cost:
$10 for the module
$20 for the Spigen case
0% hardware modification
Loss of functionality:
- Requires a case, so added weight/bulk
- USB port is not usable for anything else, though can be pulled out relatively easily when necessary without taking anything apart.
Sorry for the length, I tend to be a windbag.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The Module: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
The Case: Search on Amazon for B00JQI2USW

My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ

Sadly moving to PMA wasn't an option for me simply because I have other Qi devices still, and didn't want to spend the money on a bunch of new chargers.
Just figured I would share what i found in case someone else or there was in a similar situation as me and didn't mind the loss of the usb port (though again, it's pretty easy to unplug temporarily).

Good find I forgot to share what you found... YouTube has a video ,Android authority I think k did one
2SHAYNEZ

Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.

guapinoy said:
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
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Indeed I have done testing, but not "scientific testing", more "real world" testing (basically I've been using it for 2 days ).
So far, the rate that it charges seems pretty close to what I've grown to expect from the Nexus 5. Hard to say how fast it goes from 0% to 100%, as I rarely if ever have my phone go below 40% (since I have a Qi charger almost everywhere I go, even in the car).
So far though, if at 100% and put on the charger, it stays at 100% with the screen off, if a GPU intensive DayDream is running with the screen on, the battery does drain a bit but at a very slow rate (perhaps 2-3% per hour).
Last night I put it on the charger at around 70% battery, and it was 100% in under an hour, which is about what I see with my Nexus 5 as well.

Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.

pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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iazybandit said:
Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
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Actually this particular wireless antenna is very thin and fits just fine behind the battery door, the problem is the NFC antenna actually keeps the wireless charging antenna from even working, so when you put it inside the battery door on an AT&T G3, it simply won't charge due to the NFC antenna causing interference.

Hey thanks! so it must be outside the case then. I read in the Amazon reviews that this receiver only charges at 500 mah, and some phones will interpret this as USB charging and charge slower. How do you find the charging speed?

shayneflashindaily said:
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.

TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Not for the D850 or D852. It's hardware based so it has to be PMA.

TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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No sadly the d850 uses the PMA technology which I have no idea why.. It sucks because the PMA coil makes a bulge when installed and its hard to get it right... I have a back plate with it but barely use it. My extended mugen battery does the trick.
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TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....

I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?

cnewsgrp said:
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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This falls on the Hardware side. No firmware will enable Qi. We are stuck with PMA

Just bought from eBay for 3.45 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161689530982. Lets hope it works
It works but charges really slow. If anyone over 20 reps wants it - I will ship it for free - gift to XDA

skeevydude said:
We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...

scottharris4 said:
Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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It might not....the LG PMA case was around $50 iirc. It's only $30 now. Might be a different product or they're out of our PMA cases. Just get a sticker if you really need PMA. Personally, I'm a bit worried about it frying my phone (had a really unlucky past year with electronics being fried).

I really starting to think to do what you have done

Samsung Wireless Charging Vehicle Dock now available in USA!

Hey All,
Just checked the USA Samsung web store and saw that the official Samsung Wireless Charging Vehicle Dock is FINALLY available! It's a bit on the pricey side at $99, but it looks to be very high quality, I'm thinking about picking one up. If I do I'll be sure to write a review! Anyway, just figured I'd post here as a PSA!
Is there anyone else here (maybe from across the pond) who's bought one of these and can speak to the quality and functionality of this charger? I'd love to hear some thoughts from someone who's actually used it.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-HN910IBUSTA

Air Dock, man
$20 cheaper, and a much better mounting solution. (Magnetic)
http://www.theairdock.com/pages/galaxy-note-4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF..._rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1824974342&pf_rd_i=mobile
Or same type for about half.

gregk232 said:
Air Dock, man
$20 cheaper, and a much better mounting solution. (Magnetic)
http://www.theairdock.com/pages/galaxy-note-4
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I almost bought one but I don't want a sticker on the outside of my phone...

hawkye said:
I almost bought one but I don't want a sticker on the outside of my phone...
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I use it without the sticker. It holds just fine.
Just make sure the charger has no lint on it.

gregk232 said:
Air Dock, man
$20 cheaper, and a much better mounting solution. (Magnetic)
http://www.theairdock.com/pages/galaxy-note-4
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gregk232 said:
I use it without the sticker. It holds just fine.
Just make sure the charger has no lint on it.
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Hmmmm, I might have to give it a try then! Thanks.