[Q] Update to 4.2 without rooting - Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G

Hi guys,
I have been trying to figure out a way to update my os without rooting and I found this:
1. Go to Settings -> Apps -> All
2. Find Google Services Framework.
3. Tap on Force Stop.
4. Select Clear Data.
5. Head back to the Nexus 10′s Settings, go to About, and check for a System Update.
It is working for these Nexus folks somewhat..
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-10-tablet/252790-how-i-updated-jb-4-2-2-no-rooting.html
But I wanted to know how to recover if I had to, to the previous version. Then I read that downgrading can brick your phone if you have a Samsung 3.
I wish I could just get a Nexus phone with my requirements. But I am willing to suffer a little more with this 3g phone if I can get 4.2 installed on the phone so I can use miracast. I don't want to give up the keyboard, a removable battery, expandable memory and the size..
I would like to avoid bricking the phone and I am a noob. I just want to go from 4.1 to 4.2, thats it.
Any help with the non root procedure would help. Also I don't know where the system requirements are for these different versions but I assume the relay can handle 4.2.
This is an unlocked tmobile phone that I am using on att.
thank you guys so much.

As fas as I know there is no 4.2 Stock Android from Samsung. It is the 4.1.2 which is the last one.
If you would like to update to not genuine Android there are some ROMs to choose from.
Don't ask which is the best as it is not good question here, as we don't know what is the best for who.
But I think we should all make a petition to Samsung to make any official update.
Question to admins by the way:
Where can we do polls or anything to try?

Thank you for the reply,
the procedure above is supposed to bypass the carriers OTA updates. Samsung has updates to lollipop now, but not for this phone.
I am assuming the folks using the procedure got around the carrier obstacle. What do you think. I was going to try it but then I was looking into reverting back just in case and I found the info about the S3 bricking when downgrading so I got cold feet.
thanks

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[Q] Why Root?

I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?
Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!
I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....
The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.
if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.
Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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[Q] Seeking help from tech gods! Galaxy S i9000: Flash or root?

Hey,
I'm new to all this and am pretty amazed by the amount of knowledge and techniques applied by all the whizz kids on this forum. Anyway, I am receiving my first android tomorrow (Samsung galaxy S i9000) and I have a few questions to ask after being utterly confused all day about what each term means and what is best for me to do...
1) I have downloaded the 'super one click' rooting device where I use my PC in order to root the device. However, I also notice that this is designed for multiple android products and the alternative is to use the device specific methods. Is there any difference?
2) If I have rooted the device, do I need to then flash the device? I mean, is there any advantage to this?
3) If I flash the device or root it I understand that my warranty is void. Is there a way to back up my original files so if i have to return my phone i can reverse the rooting so it contains the original orange network settings?
4) I have downloaded the one click lag fix as recommended. It is sat on my desktop. Do I simply transfer it onto my phone using kies and then install?
5) By rooting/flashing I am assuming that I will loose my future network (orange) updates such as gingerbread 2.3 (assuming that they release it for the samsung galaxy s i9000). Is there any other way I can update in the future without my network or would I need to reinstall their original firmware and settings and go through the process of flashing/rooting again?
I know this is a lot to ask but Im super confused after a day of exhausting reading and attempting to understand whats what. I would really appreciate the help of some whizz kids here! Man I feel old!
Thanks so much
Cheb

[Q] Questions about Note 10.1 Wi-fi only version

Hey guy I recently got a Galaxy Note 10.1, the Wi-Fi only version (N8010 I think?). I really want to get Jelly Bean on it as soon as possible. I know there are a ton of ROMS out there for the Wi-Fi/3G version and most people who have flashed those onto the Wi-Fi only version have been successful. I just had a few questions for you guys as I'm still a noob at this.
1. Do I have to root my tablet to be able to flash a ROM on it?
2. Is there a chance of bricking the tablet? Is there any danger involved?
3. Will I still get OTA updates when they become available?
4. Anyone have instructions on how to flash Jelly Bean onto it?
5. Where could I find ROMS that will work with my tablet?
Thank you guys for taking the time to answer. If any of you have any experience with the Wi-Fi only version let me know. Also I live in the US if that is of any importance.
The U.S. version of wifi only is the 8013. It is what I have. There is always a risk involved with everything you do, even breathing. Every breath you take you take the risk it is not poision and feel the benefits of not suficating our weigh the risk of being poisoned.
For flashing the roms on here you need a custom recovery, like cwm. There are guides on this in the development area. Darkman-rs has some very good stuff out. I have some stuff for the 8013 as well. Check out everything, get a good feel, make a backup of your stuff, like apps, nand backups, copy your internal memory to something else, whatever else you feel like doing. One day when you have nothing going on, sit around and play with things, talk to the google machine about stuff. I have done a lot to this tablet, nothing I couldnt recover from. Always have a backup on your external sd card just in case, like an extra sd card in case you wipe the one in your tablet
Oh, and have fun!
Also, the thread for the roms should have the info on installing.
i am using @smaw51 jb uk release custom gt 8013 version and its very smooth rom really love it and there is a thread on how to add more apps to the multiwindow launcher which makes this tablet even more amazing
follow the guides on how to root and install cwm recovery and then start flashing and enjoy this beast tablet ...lol
I have recently rooted my 8010 using "method 2" do you have to unlock the bootloader too before you can use a new kernel (I know there isn't any for my model yet) . I just haven't seen much mention of bootloader unlocking
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Can you go to Settings > About device and see what your build number ends in? If it's LG4 then you will be getting Jelly Bean through Kies within a week.
Hey guys, thank you for all of the useful information. I honestly can't go into my settings right now because I don't have it yet. I bought it but am only getting it this weekend for my birthday. Then I'll be able to give you information about my device. What is the LG version?
Yes
Yes
Most likely not
Check the development thread
Check the development thread
CWM is super easy to install and obtain root (this was my first time using ODIN for anything). Simply follow the directions here (especially the part about turning Auto Reboot off): http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...t-galaxy-note-10-1-easiest-methodcwmmethod-2/
As for installing JB, I've got the 8010 version and I had no problem installing the older German version found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909950&page=9 along with the build prop fix here (which eliminates the random reboot issues): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909950&page=9
And once all that is done, don't forget to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985240 for all your Multi-Window app goodness!!
Thank you for those links Rickroller! They are extremely helpful!
Anytime!
Was anyone able to use chainfire3D on JB?

Q: XT925 Bootloader, Root, JB, etc..

Sorry if this is a request for a lot of other threads out there but I can't find anything definitive, specifically since the release dates for JB are scattered by region and there's not always a clear answer to my situation because of that.
I have an XT925, the international RAZR HD. I got it recently her in Australia on the Telstra network with ICS preinstalled and with JB already released as an upgrade. I did save my root from ICS and still have root currently on Jelly Bean. It does, however, annoy me that I have to pull apart CWM packages, move all the files, and set permissions. In addition to that I've seen some talk about lag and people doing a factory reset to fix that. I have tremendous lag in folders in the default launcher and occasional noticeable lag in Nova launcer (which I prefer to use) window animations. My experience with Android has been with the Galaxy S II, which is still a great phone, however it is a phone that's easy as pie to root and deal with.
I have a lot of questions, some answered elsewhere but not necessarily in a context that applies to the situation I'm thinking of (and all the ins and outs would be too much to list), nor specifically for JB. Things get obscure given the
Please don't ask questions about why I'd want to unlock the bootloader, be rooted, etc. These are things I can decide for myself. Also, I'm aware I need to backup all my apps and app data to the SD card and pull the entire SD card contents. Please don't answer any of the questions unless you have first hand experience; I really would rather not get well intentioned misinformation that leads to a problem.
1. Can root survive a factory reset of JB. I presume it formats everything needed but still have to ask.
2. If the bootloader is unlocked, and I'm on JB, can I flash SuperSU by sideloading? If not, has anyone done it on a bootloader unlocked XT925 with CWM?; I've read some posts that involve a lot of confusion about the ease of installing CWM and using it on this phone. I should mention that I'm not familiar with TWRP and would like to stick to what's more familiar for the time being, assuming I go down this route.
3. Is there some advantage of TWRP over CWM? Honestly I don't even know what TWRP is; is this something I should learn since I have a Motorola phone? Also, is CWM well written for the device so far? Has anyone done a Nandroid backup and restore with it? Does it perserve time stamps (for OTA updates later given that system files have a 2010 timestamp on my device, for example)?
4. Has anyone had any of the more seemingly unlikely problems stated on the unlocking page of the Motorola site that you "may" have and for example, phone calls not working, apps not working anymore etc? Also, it specifically says "You will not be able to watch any movies you downloaded". Does this apply to videos purchased from google or does it mean that videos I've put on my phone will be unplayable? (I'm not even sure we can purchase Google movies from Australia).
5. There's a thread about disabling the unlocked bootloader warning, at boot, by replacing the file that provides the warning with one that does not, however I recall that the thread discussion was before the JB update (in my locale). Is this something that can still be disabled using the same tools in JB (assuming the original discussion was indeed for ICS)?
6. Does a factory reset wipe the system partition?.. specifically asking this because I've been keeping track of all files put to my system partition so that if there's another OTA at some point, it hopefully won't fail because I can remove everything added but if resetting wipes everything it would be easier to just do that.
7. Did anyone with an unlocked bootloader on ICS have a problem with the JB update, or more specifically if you had an unlocked bootloader on ICS, did it interefere with the OTA update to JB?
8. You know when you wake up to an alarm and have responsibilities but you'd rather just go back to sleep, but you get up anyway and it takes time before you accept the day ahead; doesn't that suck?
Any help here is appreciated.
It would be great if we had a master sticky FAQ thread for all the noob questions that one could conceive of. I hope that someone is able to write one.

[Q] new to forums.. info required on 4.4.1 pls

hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
No you dont need to be unrooted to update your android version.
You need to have the stock recovery and rom. The update isnt available for everyone yet
you will get a update notification just wait
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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You technically voided your warranty when you rooted. But no big deal.
You can download the update and sideload on your own, or wait for the OTA to come to you. If all you have is root, stock recovery and no system mods it will update on its own.
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Hi do not worry. Those posts really do not apply to you yet. You have a phone that is stock meaning, you bought it and using it. If you keep it like that you never have to worry about update. Google will automatically push the update to your phone by next week. Incidentally the phone is also a developer phone, so people usually play around with it. Root, custom roms, kernels etc. Now for these enthusiasts to get the update, they have to unroot, ,to stock just like your phone. After getting the update they will start messing with it again:laugh: this forum being the developers forum of the Internet is the reason why you are seeing all those posts.
Now you are sitting on a Ferrari phone, using it as a Honda. Some day in the future you will let it run at indy500
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Did you mean to ask "do you need to root to get the 4.4.1 OTA"?? If not, your question doesn't seem to add up....
You definitely do NOT need to root to get the OTA. You can wait for the update to be pushed out, or, if you are impatient, you can sideload using ADB or install from recovery.
If you are rooted, as the other folks explained, you may need to get back to stock before you can install 4.4.1
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
I'm quite happy with everything stock and don't plan on doing any mods.
Also, I sideloaded 4.4.1, but would I have gotten the OTA with TWRP?
mmmmBACON said:
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
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Yes, get the recovery.img from the factory image and: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. That'll put the stock recovery back on your device
donentl are
thnks alot you guys!!
this really helped me out!
i know i am new to android right now and dont know the ins and outs of this os completely... i really liked a reply which said i am sitting on a ferrarri and using it like a honda..lol...i will run it like a veyron in some time but for now my car comes with a "L" sign and a speed limiter on it
thnks again you guys!

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