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I put off the upgrade in the hope the UK stock update would come but eventually changed my mind as all posts seemed to say ICS was alot better.
Have a few things I would like people to comment on.
Used the LAIOT tool which made it relativly straight forward. Few hiccups but got there.
1) Part of the process was to ROOT.
ICS installed Titanium Backup it says its not ROOTED.
2) I'm surprised at how stripped down the US stock ROM is in terms of bloat (which is good).
No stock file manager.
3) I must say I don't see any real benefit on the ICS upgrade and would be happy to be pointed to what they are.
4) Still unable to delete files from memory card.
5) I used Astro to backup my Pre-ICS xoom and hoped to be able to restore APPS but I assume this was just if the upgrade failed and I went back to HONEYCOMB as Astro doesn't see the files.
6) I read that boot-up speed was almost instant, but it seems to be the same albeit with a fancy video splash before screen up.
7) not sure if I need to relock bootloader or if I have already as part of LAIOT process. Too many threads and info.
Hi there. Without doubt. Ics is a lot better.
I am not sure your rooting we t well with custom ics rom. Here is the best rom with procedure for your xoom wifi.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400958
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Sorry don't understand second line of your reply.
That ROM procedure assumes you have knowledge of recovery such as CWM which I don't unless with full instructions.
That thread is way to long to go through but glancing it seems some aspects are still reliant on info that Google hasn't released so the ROMs are incomplete.
My post says that with the stock from I really can't see change from Honey to ICS.
That being said then why would I then go to the TeamEOS ROM, I ask so as to be convinced not to disrespect.
cmorephotos said:
I put off the upgrade in the hope the UK stock update would come but eventually changed my mind as all posts seemed to say ICS was alot better.
Have a few things I would like people to comment on.
Used the LAIOT tool which made it relativly straight forward. Few hiccups but got there.
1) Part of the process was to ROOT.
ICS installed Titanium Backup it says its not ROOTED.
2) I'm surprised at how stripped down the US stock ROM is in terms of bloat (which is good).
No stock file manager.
3) I must say I don't see any real benefit on the ICS upgrade and would be happy to be pointed to what they are.
4) Still unable to delete files from memory card.
5) I used Astro to backup my Pre-ICS xoom and hoped to be able to restore APPS but I assume this was just if the upgrade failed and I went back to HONEYCOMB as Astro doesn't see the files.
6) I read that boot-up speed was almost instant, but it seems to be the same albeit with a fancy video splash before screen up.
7) not sure if I need to relock bootloader or if I have already as part of LAIOT process. Too many threads and info.
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hey
if your looking for a decent ics experience id suggest flashing official cm9 details found here http://goo.gl/UmT44
also check this link http://goo.gl/yveok its a basic introduction on ics features - might help
p.s you dont need to relock the bootloader either - you dont want to go down that road - leave it unlocked for now
Dear friends,
as i have been hanging out in this forum, i have learnt a lot. But still, i cannot understand the attitude why people treat, reply or explain everything in a way that assumes all of us are android experts.
TF700 is my first android device(have been using Apple before) so I really need to improve-or create- fundamental knowledge. Just for your information, replying messages like; "ok now Unlock the Root system instead OTA .21 and blablablabla?" (btw. i am well aware of the fact that this sentence is totally meaningless)
Whatever, my point is it would be wonderful to have a fundamental knowledge thread, also keeping your great posts too at the same time.
Cheers!!
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Dear friends,
as i have been hanging out in this forum, i have learnt a lot. But still, i cannot understand the attitude why people treat, reply or explain everything in a way that assumes all of us are android experts.
TF700 is my first android device(have been using Apple before) so I really need to improve-or create- fundamental knowledge. Just for your information, replying messages like; "ok now Unlock the Root system instead OTA .21 and blablablabla?" (btw. i am well aware of the fact that this sentence is totally meaningless)
Whatever, my point is it would be wonderful to have a fundamental knowledge thread, also keeping your great posts too at the same time.
Cheers!!
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I am a newbie too -- bought the tf101 a couple of months ago - loved it -- told my husband he could have it - I was buying the 700 ! and was lucky enough to be able to order one (we live in Canada..... Tiger Direct.ca had them)
I have learned a lot from this forum -- glad I found it --- but I won't be "unlocking" anything ! the only thing I know how to "root" are my house plants !!! lol !! we don't even own smart phones yet -- we still have dumb phones !!! but I have my TF700 !!!
You mean sth like this?
seems hard, but it's not.
It seems tough in the beginning for noob, but actually you're going to get it. You should read the "Index" pointing out by d14b0ll0s to gain some basic knowledge and familiar with the terminology then you should be fine. Couple key words I want to point out that you should know. Currently TF700 came with a locked boot loader, meaning you not able to flash (install) custom firmware from our developers. This is a biggest issue at the moment. Sure there're workaround but it's a pain in the as...and unstable(could brick your pad if you not doing it right). When you see numbers like 21,22,26, they are firmware version number. The latest should be 26. OTA stands for "over the air" and we referred to firmware push to our pad by Asus, not manually download and install ourselves. Rooted is a process that you gain access as a administrator on your pad (you have full access to your phone), with rooted privilege you can almost do anything with your pad, like uninstall Asus embed software, do a full backup of your entire OS (operating system), modified system files etc... CWM is a tool you installed on your pad in order to flash (install) custom firmware. So at the minimum you should have root, and in the future when new custom firmware arrived, you can install cwm and used this tool to flash them. Keep in mind that with locked boot loader, you can't flash custom firmware. Finally, once you're rooted or have custom firmware installed, your pad will no longer can accepted OTA firmware (firmware push to your pad by Asus). In this case you need to roll back to stock (re installed factory firmware and no root), before you can do OTA update. Currently, I suggest you should stay on the side line and waiting for the OTA 4.1.1 JB (new Operating System called Jelly Bean, version 4.1.1 will be push to your pad by Asus). After reading this post you should be ready to play... good luck!
Sorry, but I don't get it, what is it about Verizon? Is it because you bought yours from Verizon? Mine comes from ASUS and I believe the OTA updates are from ASUS servers. Is it the US-specific thing that you mentioned?
Yeah... Everything is pretty easy even for people that have no clue what they are doing. My suggestion right now is to root but not unlock. Rooting is as simple as running the .bat file and following on screen directions (assuming you are using Windows). The only thing you need to do after the program is finished is to open up the Superuser app (might be SuperSU) and restart after that for safe measure.
Unlocking does VOID YOUR MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY (and possibly all others you may have purchased). Make sure you know what you want to do with an unlocked device before you do it. Personally, I am waiting for a stable JB build before I unlock. But the choice is ultimately up to you.
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Sorry, but I don't get it, what is it about Verizon? Is it because you bought yours from Verizon? Mine comes from ASUS and I believe the OTA updates are from ASUS servers. Is it the US-specific thing that you mentioned?
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Sorry you're right, must not awake yet. ASUS that is. Thanks bro.
Your going to be fine try learning how to build aosp from source in a time limit
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Yeah... Everything is pretty easy even for people that have no clue what they are doing. My suggestion right now is to root but not unlock. Rooting is as simple as running the .bat file and following on screen directions (assuming you are using Windows). The only thing you need to do after the program is finished is to open up the Superuser app (might be SuperSU) and restart after that for safe measure.
Unlocking does VOID YOUR MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY (and possibly all others you may have purchased). Make sure you know what you want to do with an unlocked device before you do it. Personally, I am waiting for a stable JB build before I unlock. But the choice is ultimately up to you.
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I agree with Skullmonkey on this. Until you are ready for really hacking the system, all you really need is to root the system (run the DebugFS) to get "administrator access to your device".
You might want to read what buhohitr wrote several times as there is much to be gleaned from it. If it helps, copy/paste the contents of buhohitr's repsonse to a notepad text document and go through it word-for-word, isolate those that you find questionable or troublesome, then research what those words are. Anything that is "super difficult" you can just post back here in the Q&A section and I'm sure someone will help you in no time.
another noob question: does rooting the device void manufacturing warranty?
It does not. Only unlocking the device does.
Sent from my Transformer Infinity!
So if I root my Infinity...
...which pre-included apps can I get rid of?
Also which preloaded apps are best to bump off if I dare a root?
I have never dabbled with android down in the file system much for fear of doing something irreparable.
Well, to the OP: we already have quite a few 'basic' threads going on here, and no one forces you to embark on the more advanced stuff, do we? Just read up on it, and when you feel like you can make the jump, pick it up little by little. We're not all experts in here, but most of us can follow directions of the gurus really good, and we have the advantage of knowing how to save our butts when the excrement impacts the ventilator. (And most of us learnt it the hard way, by bricking and breaking...)
You should be fine in the regular forums, and as the others have said, stay out of the development sections until you feel secure enough to dabble around with unlocking and so on.
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Currently, I suggest you should stay on the side line and waiting for the OTA 4.1.1 JB (new Operating System called Jelly Bean, version 4.1.1 will be push to your pad by Asus). After reading this post you should be ready to play... good luck!
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What's the method for unrooting/reflashing to stock at the moment? I rooted because I wanted to use Titanium Backup right after I got back up to .26. If we haven't figured out how to custom flash roms by the time jellybean comes out, I'll need to go back to stock. I would *hate* to have to lose all my apps, and its possible that titanium backup from 4.0.3 to 4.1.1 might royally screw up the system in doing a restore. So, if that's the case, I guess I'll reflash someway and lose everything? Doh.
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What's the method for unrooting/reflashing to stock at the moment? I rooted because I wanted to use Titanium Backup right after I got back up to .26. If we haven't figured out how to custom flash roms by the time jellybean comes out, I'll need to go back to stock. I would *hate* to have to lose all my apps, and its possible that titanium backup from 4.0.3 to 4.1.1 might royally screw up the system in doing a restore. So, if that's the case, I guess I'll reflash someway and lose everything? Doh.
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Anyone figure out a way to go back from root back to stock yet so that when Jelly Bean comes out we can upgrade?
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Anyone figure out a way to go back from root back to stock yet so that when Jelly Bean comes out we can upgrade?
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One method to get rid of root would be factory reset (power on while holding both the power and volume down while booting and running a factory reset.) But you could probably temporarily unroot with voodoo ota root keeper and then reroot once you install the upgrade to jelly bean with its root keeper.
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One method to get rid of root would be factory reset (power on while holding both the power and volume down while booting and running a factory reset.) But you could probably temporarily unroot with voodoo ota root keeper and then reroot once you install the upgrade to jelly bean with its root keeper.
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That's not true. Funny I've been responding to the same kind of "advice" a few minutes ago in another thread.
Temporarily unrooting through Root Keeper should work, but rooting has prevented updating firmware only for some users. I was rooted and installed updates both manually and through OTA without experiencing any issues. Getting to stock /system partition basically means restoring stock configuration files (like build.prop etc.), removing /system/xbin/su and any copies made by RootKeeper, as well as things that install to /system like BusyBox.
Even if you're rooted you should be able to update firmware manually through stock recovery (power down, power up, hold power and volume down, release, press volume up, etc., with microSD formatted FAT32 and with EP201_768_SDUPDATE on it, it's already in the how-to threads in the general section).
d14b0ll0s said:
That's not true. Funny I've been responding to the same kind of "advice" a few minutes ago in another thread.
Temporarily unrooting through Root Keeper should work, but rooting has prevented updating firmware only for some users. I was rooted and installed updates both manually and through OTA without experiencing any issues. Getting to stock /system partition basically means restoring stock configuration files (like build.prop etc.), removing /system/xbin/su and any copies made by RootKeeper, as well as things that install to /system like BusyBox.
Even if you're rooted you should be able to update firmware manually through stock recovery (power down, power up, hold power and volume down, release, press volume up, etc., with microSD formatted FAT32 and with EP201_768_SDUPDATE on it, it's already in the how-to threads in the general section).
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I guess I was just misinformed on the factory reset, sorry if I confused anyone.
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d14b0ll0s said:
That's not true. Funny I've been responding to the same kind of "advice" a few minutes ago in another thread.
Temporarily unrooting through Root Keeper should work, but rooting has prevented updating firmware only for some users. I was rooted and installed updates both manually and through OTA without experiencing any issues. Getting to stock /system partition basically means restoring stock configuration files (like build.prop etc.), removing /system/xbin/su and any copies made by RootKeeper, as well as things that install to /system like BusyBox.
Even if you're rooted you should be able to update firmware manually through stock recovery (power down, power up, hold power and volume down, release, press volume up, etc., with microSD formatted FAT32 and with EP201_768_SDUPDATE on it, it's already in the how-to threads in the general section).
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+ 1 I have rooted several tablets/phone over the last two years and backed it up using voodoo rootkeeper with ZERO issues updating firmware/OTAS. The only thing that happens after updating is that I loose root, but that's where voodoo OTA rootkeeper comes to play. Only a handful of people have had problems. Some are legit while others have messed/modded their device prior to updates. (like removeing system apps or modding build. Props)
"60% of the time, it works everytime. "
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Unroot it again ??
If there are problems with the tablet and it must be repaired on warranty, then I need to unroot it again.
How do I unroot it again ??
Regards Peder
I have only rooted unlocked the bootloader on a acer a100 7" tab and kept the oringinal stock os but, it only cost $150.00. I have also rooted and nvflashed a Viewsonic G tab but, I did not have to unlock a bootloader. The reason I did not install a custom rom on the Acer a100 was because I did not see any great improvements over the original stock. The Viewsonic however was a different story. The custom roms all the way from froyo to JB has made this tabby 1000% better than it ever was but, with nvflash I could restore it to original condition and send it to Viewsonic for warranty repair or replacement. Will nvflashing the TF700 allow me to do that? Are the custom rom that are out that much better than the Asus JB update? .I can understand rooting because I can install SuperSU, and I think but not sure (i believe I read this will require unlocking the bootloader) a custom recovery so I can backup the boot.img and all apps and install apps that require root. Sorry if this question has be asked but did not get any results when inputting this question that related to the TF700. Thanks
ps: my TF700 is being delivered tomorrow.
lartomar2002 said:
I have only rooted unlocked the bootloader on a acer a100 7" tab and kept the oringinal stock os but, it only cost $150.00. I have also rooted and nvflashed a Viewsonic G tab but, I did not have to unlock a bootloader. The reason I did not install a custom rom on the Acer a100 was because I did not see any great improvements over the original stock. The Viewsonic however was a different story. The custom roms all the way from froyo to JB has made this tabby 1000% better than it ever was but, with nvflash I could restore it to original condition and send it to Viewsonic for warranty repair or replacement. Will nvflashing the TF700 allow me to do that? Are the custom rom that are out that much better than the Asus JB update? .I can understand rooting because I can install SuperSU, and I think but not sure (i believe I read this will require unlocking the bootloader) a custom recovery so I can backup the boot.img and all apps and install apps that require root. Sorry if this question has be asked but did not get any results when inputting this question that related to the TF700. Thanks
ps: my TF700 is being delivered tomorrow.
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OK, see if I can make this short and clear:
1. If you rooted, you can roll back to original factory state (send back for repair or exchange), with root you can installed rooted application like Titanium backup, setCPU, modify boot.prop, gps.conf etc...)
2. If you unlocked (you void warranty, there is NO WAY you could re lock your device), with unlock you could install NVflash, install custom recovery to do nanodroid backup (backup the OS and all the apps), flash custom rom/kernel etc..
3. If you compare a good device (a device without problem), that running stock JB and custom rom, the speed is about almost the same, the only benefit with custom rom is you could install custom apps, themes etc..but as far as performance and smoothness they about the same.
I found that strip down custom rom like "Cleanrom" does have an advantage with memory since all the bloats are removed, so I have more memory available to the OS. In my opinion, this thing should have 2gb of memory vs 1gb. There are many times, my memory went down below 150 and I do feel the sluggishness. To combat against this issue, I installed memory management app and it's been good since.
buhohitr said:
OK, see if I can make this short and clear:
1. If you rooted, you can roll back to original factory state (send back for repair or exchange), with root you can installed rooted application like Titanium backup, setCPU, modify boot.prop, gps.conf etc...)
2. If you unlocked (you void warranty, there is NO WAY you could re lock your device), with unlock you could install NVflash, install custom recovery to do nanodroid backup (backup the OS and all the apps), flash custom rom/kernel etc..
3. If you compare a good device (a device without problem), that running stock JB and custom rom, the speed is about almost the same, the only benefit with custom rom is you could install custom apps, themes etc..but as far as performance and smoothness they about the same.
I found that strip down custom rom like "Cleanrom" does have an advantage with memory since all the bloats are removed, so I have more memory available to the OS. In my opinion, this thing should have 2gb of memory vs 1gb. There are many times, my memory went down below 150 and I do feel the sluggishness. To combat against this issue, I installed memory management app and it's been good since.
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Thank you, you were clear and concise. About memory though, could I not use an app like System Tuner Pro or System Cleanup to uninstall the bloatware? I have done that with the Viewsonic G tab it only has 512mb of ram and the developers have squeezed JB into it with approx 100mb of ram left to allow for the different things it has to do. As long as you do not have to many things running at the same time and try to keep recent apps cleared out, JB runs very smoothly.
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Thank you, you were clear and concise. About memory though, could I not use an app like System Tuner Pro or System Cleanup to uninstall the bloatware? I have done that with the Viewsonic G tab it only has 512mb of ram and the developers have squeezed JB into it with approx 100mb of ram left to allow for the different things it has to do. As long as you do not have to many things running at the same time and try to keep recent apps cleared out, JB runs very smoothly.
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If your device is not rooted, you should not have access to the folders these apps' files reside in. In other words: no, you can't. To me, having root access provides a means of treating my device like I want to, instead of the way the manufacturer wants me to. Apps like Titanium Backup provide data backup and the possibility to side-load easily. And indeed you could kill off bloatware, although a custom ROM mostly takes care of that issue for you. Oh, and Total Commander needs root access to be able to transfer files to and from both the internal and external memory.
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If your device is not rooted, you should not have access to the folders these apps' files reside in. In other words: no, you can't. To me, having root access provides a means of treating my device like I want to, instead of the way the manufacturer wants me to. Apps like Titanium Backup provide data backup and the possibility to side-load easily. And indeed you could kill off bloatware, although a custom ROM mostly takes care of that issue for you. Oh, and Total Commander needs root access to be able to transfer files to and from both the internal and external memory.[/QUOTEto
Thank you. I had pretty much decided to root which is not a big problem for me. I have done it to 3 or 4 tablets already. I am how ever concerned about unlocking the bootloader and voiding the warranty. I had to return one tablet for warranty work but by nvflashing it I was able to get it back to factory condition. May in the future someone will figure a way around the Asus block, then I will unlock it. I have faith in the xda community.
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lartomar2002 said:
MartyHulskemper said:
If your device is not rooted, you should not have access to the folders these apps' files reside in. In other words: no, you can't. To me, having root access provides a means of treating my device like I want to, instead of the way the manufacturer wants me to. Apps like Titanium Backup provide data backup and the possibility to side-load easily. And indeed you could kill off bloatware, although a custom ROM mostly takes care of that issue for you. Oh, and Total Commander needs root access to be able to transfer files to and from both the internal and external memory.[/QUOTEto
Thank you. I had pretty much decided to root which is not a big problem for me. I have done it to 3 or 4 tablets already. I am how ever concerned about unlocking the bootloader and voiding the warranty. I had to return one tablet for warranty work but by nvflashing it I was able to get it back to factory condition. May in the future someone will figure a way around the Asus block, then I will unlock it. I have faith in the xda community.
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Due to the level of encryption, the unlock tool will not be available by third parties. The encryption will not be circumvened, unless ASUS posts the key due to end-of-life. There's a thread somewhere in which we already discussed this. It comes down to either unlock (and you might as well do it now and get the best performance -- the current CleanROM flies!) or not unlock (ever).
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MartyHulskemper said:
lartomar2002 said:
Due to the level of encryption, the unlock tool will not be available by third parties. The encryption will not be circumvened, unless ASUS posts the key due to end-of-life. There's a thread somewhere in which we already discussed this. It comes down to either unlock (and you might as well do it now and get the best performance -- the current CleanROM flies!) or not unlock (ever).
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Thank you. You have given me the push I needed to unlock and root but first I would like to install the nvflash. I did it once with a Viewsonic G tab but if I recall it was not this complicated. I have a Win7 64 bit pc and I am not sure which of the 3 drivers I am suppose to use. I have posted in their comment section so hopefully they will get back to me. I have never had to use ADB but I found a web site "ADB for Dummies" that has a guide and a link to download the ADB drivers, not sure how old they are or if they need to be updated. I have only read of "fastboot" in some post but it never pertained to me so I ignored it. As you can see I have some boning up to do. If you could point be to some threads or pages that might speed this along I would greatly appreciate it. Many of you have several months head start on me. Thanks
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I think the best one is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479, although that is probaby the one you are referring to posting in. Their guides are pretty extensive and cover most issues nicely, but I had one issue I cannot find in the others' posts: I have to restart the adb server before any meaningful connection is made between my x64 W7 machine and the 700. Somehow, it hangs up when it should initialize. It's not ftal, but supremely annoying. Just browse to the platform-tools directory, (SHIFT+)right-click and choose " Open command window here", and input the following commands in there: "adb kill-server" and "adb start-server" whenever you get the message complaining about "too much links"
If you get stuck, you can PM me -- I am going on a vacation, but, knowing me, I'll be in here more than is good for me.
MartyHulskemper said:
I think the best one is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479, although that is probaby the one you are referring to posting in. Their guides are pretty extensive and cover most issues nicely, but I had one issue I cannot find in the others' posts: I have to restart the adb server before any meaningful connection is made between my x64 W7 machine and the 700. Somehow, it hangs up when it should initialize. It's not ftal, but supremely annoying. Just browse to the platform-tools directory, (SHIFT+)right-click and choose " Open command window here", and input the following commands in there: "adb kill-server" and "adb start-server" whenever you get the message complaining about "too much links"
If you get stuck, you can PM me -- I am going on a vacation, but, knowing me, I'll be in here more than is good for me.
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Yes that is the one. I am going to call it quits for today I have been at this for 8 hrs already.
I just want to ask some questions, seems like some of these threads are out of date.
My phone came out of box JB, so I need to restore down to ICS to root, then use a program called VooDoo to protect said root and update back to JB?
Unless my Bootloader is unlocked, What are the pro/cons of that, I heard you dont get OTA updates, but I could live without those, we can just download them ourselves right?
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I just want to ask some questions, seems like some of these threads are out of date.
My phone came out of box JB, so I need to restore down to ICS to root, then use a program called VooDoo to protect said root and update back to JB?
Unless my Bootloader is unlocked, What are the pro/cons of that, I heard you dont get OTA updates, but I could live without those, we can just download them ourselves right?
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There have been a lot of misconceptions about unlocked bootloaders in this forum. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't necessarily mean the phone will not be eligible for updates, rather the updates will not install on a modified system. What is your real reason for root? Most people are always looking for the latest update, but mess up some files on their phone and don't have backup, in which case the update will fail.
With the Rogers/fido fiasco, we had people go back to the wrong Rogers version of software, since it was not posted properly on the Motorola firmware download website.
Another con is that your warranty would be totally void. Personally I haven't find the need yet to root this device and have had it for almost 4 months now!
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I wont agree for some people the modifications other people do seem trivial.
I've already rooted though, turns out I did have to do what I said above, now running 4.1.1 with Root
I root because a few applications I use, for instance SetCPU allows me to underclock the processors in my phone while the screen is locked, that saves a bit of battery life. I wish Motorola allowed a smart action trigger for when the phone screen was off though, this would help it even more so to save battery.
I use another app to change the lockscreen sounds, which requires root as well.
I havent looked at possible ROM's on this phone yet, as far as I know developers arent quite getting into this phone as deep as they usually do? Thusly I dont think i'll need to use a custom ROM. Just my own optimizations.
The goal: Get my sluggish phone (Razr Maxx HD, JB 4.1.2, currently 9.16.6.XT926.Verizon.en.US, rooted, bootloader locked) to be less sluggish.
The proposed method: Wipe phone and start over.
The "problem": Because I am rooted and want to stay that way, I am aware that I can't just do a factory reset. I believe that I need to unroot first, then wipe, then reroot. But there are many more possible methods to do this than there were before and I'm having trouble figuring out which might be the best method for me (or which will even work, at all).
Background: If I had just blindly done what I did the last time I wiped (I think I was starting from ICS 0.7.2 last time, not JB), I would have backed up everything, used DROID_RAZR_HD_Utility1.10 which I have from before (dates appear to be 1/28/2013) to go back to 0.6.25.X926., and, using the zip files I have from before, go from 0.6.25 to 0.7.2 to 9.1.41 to 9.16.6. (I was never able to successfully take OTA updates). Like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024423 BUT, now that I'm on JB, it's not clear to me that I can even do this. One post is telling me that if I'm on 9.16.6, I should NOT use Droid Razr HD Utility 1.10. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33610625#post33610625 and when I found the thread for the 1.21 utility, it also says no 9.16.6.
I've been wandering around the relevant posts that are linked from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247250
but for whatever reason, this is just making my head spin. I'm more confused about what I can and cannot do, than I was before I started. I think too many OTA versions have passed me by... I was happy with the way things were working so I just didn't care about updates, KitKat, etc. I don't have a good feel for how many versions there are between 9.16.6 and current.
My actual question: I think I could really use some help narrowing down my options. Do I have any options at all? If so, can anyone suggest what my realistic options actually are? I don't care if I end up in JB or KitKat at the end; I do want to be able to restore some of the data from some of my apps using Titanium Backup and/or MyBackup Pro; and I want to be rooted when I am done. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, dlc
dlc2001 said:
The goal: Get my sluggish phone (Razr Maxx HD, JB 4.1.2, currently 9.16.6.XT926.Verizon.en.US, rooted, bootloader locked) to be less sluggish.
The proposed method: Wipe phone and start over.
The "problem": Because I am rooted and want to stay that way, I am aware that I can't just do a factory reset. I believe that I need to unroot first, then wipe, then reroot. But there are many more possible methods to do this than there were before and I'm having trouble figuring out which might be the best method for me (or which will even work, at all).
Background: If I had just blindly done what I did the last time I wiped (I think I was starting from ICS 0.7.2 last time, not JB), I would have backed up everything, used DROID_RAZR_HD_Utility1.10 which I have from before (dates appear to be 1/28/2013) to go back to 0.6.25.X926., and, using the zip files I have from before, go from 0.6.25 to 0.7.2 to 9.1.41 to 9.16.6. (I was never able to successfully take OTA updates). Like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024423 BUT, now that I'm on JB, it's not clear to me that I can even do this. One post is telling me that if I'm on 9.16.6, I should NOT use Droid Razr HD Utility 1.10. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33610625#post33610625 and when I found the thread for the 1.21 utility, it also says no 9.16.6.
I've been wandering around the relevant posts that are linked from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247250
but for whatever reason, this is just making my head spin. I'm more confused about what I can and cannot do, than I was before I started. I think too many OTA versions have passed me by... I was happy with the way things were working so I just didn't care about updates, KitKat, etc. I don't have a good feel for how many versions there are between 9.16.6 and current.
My actual question: I think I could really use some help narrowing down my options. Do I have any options at all? If so, can anyone suggest what my realistic options actually are? I don't care if I end up in JB or KitKat at the end; I do want to be able to restore some of the data from some of my apps using Titanium Backup and/or MyBackup Pro; and I want to be rooted when I am done. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, dlc
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to get rid of the slowness of the phone i recommend going to a lolipop rom , LP has to be the quickest my phone has ran... ever.
-step 1 use rsd lite to flash [4.4.2] 183.46.10 fxz (make sure it ends with a 10 not a 14 or 15 or you wont be able to unlock bootloader)
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-fxz-442-1834610/
-step 2 root and unlock use TR.apk (root)and motopocalypse.apk (bootloader unlock)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
-step 3 use ADB fastboot to Flash custom recovery, i personally use twrp there are others you can use if you decide to do the research
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/51883-recoverytwrp-2810-11-01-14/
-step 4 flash LP custom rom, i use blisspop, it seems to have the most updates at the moment . it has really impressed me
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/60153-rom502lollipopmsm8960-kkbl-blisspop-official/
that rom comes with supersu built in so you will have root. if your reason for having root is to have exposed, it doesnt work on lolipop so stop at sstep 3 and either flash a KK custom rom or just flash supersu which will give you root on stock kitkat
OK, I will spend a little more time absorbing/reading and then I'll give it a shot, thanks muchly. I want to do some backups just in case, so it'll take a while...
Couple of followup questions based on the reading I've done so far from the links you provided, just so I know what I'm doing before I do it:
1. I think I get Steps 1 and 2. After Step 2 I am rooted and on stock KK, correct? So if I stop there do I still need to "flash supersu" per your comment at the end? Does the root in step 2 put supersu in my apps, and if not can I not just install it from google play?
2. Seems like I can use the Step 1 method to flash back to JB (or any other FXZ I can find) if I want. If I do that, is there any way to root JB, or is this trip I'm about to take, a one-way trip? Just to clarify, JB hasn't always been slow for me... it's just slowed down recently. Not saying I want to go back to JB for sure, but I like to know what options I am closing off when I move forward, and reviews of KitKat are not universally splendid.... I hear you about the custom ROM but for various work-related reasons I may be better off staying stock (well, stock + root) for a while at least.
Again, thank you for your help.
dlc2001 said:
OK, I will spend a little more time absorbing/reading and then I'll give it a shot, thanks muchly. I want to do some backups just in case, so it'll take a while...
Couple of followup questions based on the reading I've done so far from the links you provided, just so I know what I'm doing before I do it:
1. I think I get Steps 1 and 2. After Step 2 I am rooted and on stock KK, correct? So if I stop there do I still need to "flash supersu" per your comment at the end? Does the root in step 2 put supersu in my apps, and if not can I not just install it from google play?
2. Seems like I can use the Step 1 method to flash back to JB (or any other FXZ I can find) if I want. If I do that, is there any way to root JB, or is this trip I'm about to take, a one-way trip? Just to clarify, JB hasn't always been slow for me... it's just slowed down recently. Not saying I want to go back to JB for sure, but I like to know what options I am closing off when I move forward, and reviews of KitKat are not universally splendid.... I hear you about the custom ROM but for various work-related reasons I may be better off staying stock (well, stock + root) for a while at least.
Again, thank you for your help.
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yes you can install it from playstore, but once your bootloader is unlocked you can always root by flashing in custom recovery. you dont need exploits anymore
All done, worked great!