Tmobile customer here and wondering why when I take a call does my signal go from lte blazing speeds to H signal and 10 x's slower data speeds,is this a Tmobile thing or a Nexus thing?thanks
It's an everything thing. When ever you take a call data drops from lte to h. That's why they're development volte.
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That is strange! I havent had that happen to me
Like jd1639 said, that's why they're developing VoLTE.
I have a friend with an Iphone 6 and it doesn't happen to her hmmmm
Macklessdaddy said:
I have a friend with an Iphone 6 and it doesn't happen to her hmmmm
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Which carrier? It may be VoLTE. Or the iP6 may come with dual radios. Keep in mind the N5 only has a single radio, so if you get a call it downgrades to H. Most carriers use an implementation of VoLTE that doesn't work with the N5. H+ is going to be slower than LTE and you may be in an area that they may not have DC-HSPA but just HSPA because of the amount of spectrum. Plus you have to have the overhead of transferring the voice over data.
You could always forward your calls to Google Voice and use Hangouts. Just sayin.
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I have a friend with an Iphone 6 and it doesn't happen to her hmmmm
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The iPhone 6 uses VoLTE on some carriers.
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Never bothered to look this up and can't find any info on AT&T ...
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Lte is just for data. 2g/3g is data and voice.
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At some point when ATT has migrated all of their coverage to LTE capability the network will switch to LTE for voice. Neither ATT or Verizon use LTE for voice calls yet.
Likely within a decade they will turn off their traditional TDMA based GSM voice network altogether and everything will be on their LTE spectrum.
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I'm wondering if they'll throttle LTE during phone calls as well. Hmmmmm
pretty sure they only use gsm for calls, as people without data plans that have smartphones (dont know why they do that ) still make calls and text, just cant access teh interwebz
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I'm wondering if they'll throttle LTE during phone calls as well. Hmmmmm
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You will get 2g/3g during calls.
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You will get 2g/3g during calls.
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No you didn't get it. Even without LTE they slow down any connection when on a phone call to save bandwidth. You can be getting 6 mbps down and then make a phone call and barely hit one and the upload is like 0.00mbps.
Test it out. Immsuremit will be like that once LTE is voice enabled.
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Never bothered to look this up and can't find any info on AT&T ...
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The current deployments of LTE are based on the LTE Release 8 with LTE used for data and 3GPP/3GPP2 (i.e. GSM/UMTS/CDMA/EVDO) for voice.
This will all change when the carriers move to the VoLTE (Voice over LTE), which is most likely a few years away.
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This will all change when the carriers move to the VoLTE (Voice over LTE), which is most likely a few years away.
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Yes, from what I understand, there is no standard yet for Voice over LTE, the various stakeholders are still working this out, and its still a long ways away.
So for the present time (and near future), LTE is data only (and no voice) on all carriers.
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No you didn't get it. Even without LTE they slow down any connection when on a phone call to save bandwidth. You can be getting 6 mbps down and then make a phone call and barely hit one and the upload is like 0.00mbps.
Test it out. Immsuremit will be like that once LTE is voice enabled.
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So are you agreeing or disagreeing with my statement? Sounds like you are disagreeing, if so how is what you just posted different from mine?
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So are you agreeing or disagreeing with my statement? Sounds like you are disagreeing, if so how is what you just posted different from mine?
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I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing. I was stating something entirely different from the OP.
Its not widely known that AT&T throttles all data speeds during calls and I was being sarcastic by adding that once you can do LTE over voice, they'll throttle that too during calls only.
Run a speedtest next time your on the phone and you'll see. Doesn't matter what data plan you have, they throttle all data speeds during calls.
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I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing. I was stating something entirely different from the OP.
Its not widely known that AT&T throttles all data speeds during calls and I was being sarcastic by adding that once you can do LTE over voice, they'll throttle that too during calls only.
Run a speedtest next time your on the phone and you'll see. Doesn't matter what data plan you have, they throttle all data speeds during calls.
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Agreed, I told At&t that i wanted to cancel my service because Im paying for hotspot and its shif during calls. I was never told this before signing up for service. Im upset because hspa+ is enough for my needs and will work during calls but they had to go and throttle the service!
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Yes, from what I understand, there is no standard yet for Voice over LTE, the various stakeholders are still working this out, and its still a long ways away.
So for the present time (and near future), LTE is data only (and no voice) on all carriers.
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The standard is pretty clear.
You have 3 options for voice under LTE (as of Rel8):
VoLTE - IMS VoIP using AMR
CS (circuit switched) Fallback - basically have the phone camp in the LTE network, and fallback to 3GPP/3GPP2 only in the case of voice calls
SVLTE (Simultaneous Voice and LTE) - the scenario I already described and launched with most NA carriers
The reason for the delay in VoLTE deployment is the difficulty (and cost) in implementation. VZW, AT&T, etc. would probably want to recoup investments in the 3G network already in place before they spend more for VoLTE. At some point in the future, recovering air spectrum from the 3G band is going to be a higher priority than re-using the deployed 3G network, and that's when we'll see more VoLTE movement.
Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
The phone has to support SVDO in order to do voice+data on Sprint. Very, very few phones do (the EVO 4G LTE did, the HTC One didn't, for example). It requires a special antenna configuration as well IIRC.
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Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Too bad... Found more on s4gru regarding this:
"That is what we have been told. Sprint tri band LTE devices will not support SVLTE. Whether that is due to band 26 LTE 800, band 41 TD-LTE 2600, or the combination of the two, we do not know. And the sample size is very small right now to project unconditionally into the future. But the standard expectation going forward should be no SVLTE on Sprint multi band LTE devices. Simultaneous voice and data will have to be accomplished by other means, such as third party VoIP apps and eventually VoLTE."
I are a sad sprint customer lol. Also why I went with a multi carrier phone off contract June 2014 can't come soon enough, cause I loves this phone!
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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laestrella said:
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I still have a family plan on sprint so if my data amount becomes an issue I'll go back but for now I'll sacrifice more data for fast and always available data, and at a rate of $45 I'll take it.
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laestrella said:
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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Nope, that's by design. It has to do with available radios. If LTE isn't on a separate radio it can't be used simultaneously. On the upside, having less radios means better battery life overall.
Why does it take like 7 Seconds to call someone before you hear the ring on your end?
Carrier T-Mobile
markdapimp said:
Why does it take like 7 Seconds to call someone before you hear the ring on your end?
Carrier T-Mobile
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good question. i ask people with iphones on tmo all the time. happens to my fathers iphone as well, i though it was an iphone thing, guess not.
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good question. i ask people with iphones on tmo all the time. happens to my fathers iphone as well, i though it was an iphone thing, guess not.
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I guess its a network thing?
Happens to me once in awhile and T-Mobile aswell
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I guess its a network thing?
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sounds like it might be. im curious if it has anything to do with tmobiles hd calling.
Same thing happens with my phone when it's on LTE. TMO can't make calls over LTE, so the phone has to switch to HSPA in order to make a call.
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Same thing happens with my phone when it's on LTE. TMO can't make calls over LTE, so the phone has to switch to HSPA in order to make a call.
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Is on hspa and it still does it.
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Is on hspa and it still does it.
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Weird. Mine connects almost instantly on HSPA.
Interesting, mine connects instantly both on LTE and HSPA but I'm using LTE with AT&T and HSPA when I am in China on China Unicom. As simms22 said, could have to do with T-mobile's network.
I've seen this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
And since we're all pretty sure due to FCC filings that the Moto hardware supports band 12, could anyone tell me itd be possible to open this great budget phone up to t mobiles expanding 700mhz coverage?
Even if you unlock the band, without VoLTE support you wouldn't be able to make calls or send/receive sms messages. This is why Motorola disabled it.
Is that really so important though? Data coverage is all I really need. If there's 2g or 3g fallback texts will still come in, and I think I've gotten texts on lte only mode on my galaxy s4 even on roms that don't support VoLTE or WiFi calling, so texts might still work. Calling can easily be done over Google hangouts as a data call anyway. The coverage is most important to power users, not making it compatible with calls
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I'll be driving to Seattle from Chicago next week and I could use all of the additional coverage I can get. I really don't care if I can't get traditional voice / text, hangouts etc are perfectly fine stop gaps. I'm going to buy a Moto G from Best Buy and try this but with no band 12 near me I can't know if it actually is working. If anyone who has coverage in their area wants to give it a shot, I think everyone would love to know if its possible.
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Is that really so important though? Data coverage is all I really need. If there's 2g or 3g fallback texts will still come in, and I think I've gotten texts on lte only mode on my galaxy s4 even on roms that don't support VoLTE or WiFi calling, so texts might still work. Calling can easily be done over Google hangouts as a data call anyway. The coverage is most important to power users, not making it compatible with calls
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If the radio supports band 12, then you can definitely unlock it. Give it a try.
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If the radio supports band 12, then you can definitely unlock it. Give it a try.
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I returned my phone, and that guide seems to be very device specific. Since no one has done it for the Moto G 3rd gen yet, I could easily brick my phone with the only fix as "flash the stock FTF file" which seems to be some special file for sony devices? I'd rather not get in over my head and ruin a brand new device.
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I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55475431&postcount=1
But it's for 1st gen
Just so you know.. most of the twin cities area you'd be driving through has band 12 with t-mobile (multiple sources on Google as well as personal experience working at MSP). Band 12 probably wont be deployed anytime soon in rural areas because T-mobile is only using it in urban areas to penetrate buildings with lower frequencies with less line-of-sight areas. What you'd be wanting to look for is T-Mobile refarming their old 2G (EDGE) towers to LTE. Regardless, even with 2G coverage you can still get calls/text/Google Maps to work.
I travel all of North America for work and I'm in a different state every week. I carry a T-Mobile phone as my primary and a Cricket phone (through AT&T) as a backup. I know most people don't have that luxury of carrying two carriers with them, so I keep up to date on this stuff as best I can. People have been getting really mis-informed with this whole T-Mobile Band 12 thing lately.
Another trivial fact.. Minneapolis metro area is one of the best covered metro locations in North America for T-Mobile. Because they bought out VoiceStream, that was one of their top markets. I remember having them when I lived up there years ago!
Anyway, have a safe trip! I'm jealous you're heading to Seattle. Used to live out there as well and I woul do anything to move back! I just got married out there last December.
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Someone check the link shared by lockheed_man in a Moto G (3rd generation)?
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Anyone with an unlocked band 12?
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Is that really so important though? Data coverage is all I really need. If there's 2g or 3g fallback texts will still come in, and I think I've gotten texts on lte only mode on my galaxy s4 even on roms that don't support VoLTE or WiFi calling, so texts might still work. Calling can easily be done over Google hangouts as a data call anyway. The coverage is most important to power users, not making it compatible with calls
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Regular sms needs a voice signal. If you got a text with only data it was an mms.
I just Change my iphone for a Honor 8 .I have Cricket Wireless, which runs on AT&T towers. The past couple of days I've noticed I'm not getting LTE sometimes (only 4G). This could've been happening longer. I upgraded to Android 7.0/EMUI 5.0 yesterday I contacted Cricket and have done the resets and sim removal. Anyone else experience this problem? Any solution? Before that my iphone always keep my LTE i really like this phone but this problem is piss my off...
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I just Change my iphone for a Honor 8 .I have Cricket Wireless, which runs on AT&T towers. The past couple of days I've noticed I'm not getting LTE sometimes (only 4G). This could've been happening longer. I upgraded to Android 7.0/EMUI 5.0 yesterday I contacted Cricket and have done the resets and sim removal. Anyone else experience this problem? Any solution? Before that my iphone always keep my LTE i really like this phone but this problem is piss my off...
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I am using my honor 8 on cricket and I am getting the 4GLTE symbol most of the time. Some areas it dips down to 4G, but that's just how the coverage is. Is it possible that you just didn't notice it on your iPhone before?
Also when I put my SIM card into the Honor 8 I received 2 messages from Cricket. One for data settings & one for MMS settings. I clicked on the link in the messages and the settings were applied, did you get those messages from Cricket?
4g is lte. Lte is a gimmick name. That's all.
Do the speed test, if above 6mbps then youre fine.
Im in some area with low signal right now.
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Do the speed test, if above 6mbps then youre fine.
Im in some area with low signal right now.
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Right. Also remember with Cricket you never actually get LTE speeds since they cap at 8Mbps.
Change in signal from 4g to 3g is just because u had low signal reception .
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4g is lte. Lte is a gimmick name. That's all.
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Why gimmick? It's just another name. Like EDGE to 2G, HSDPA/WCDMA to 3G, and finally LTE to 4G.
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Why gimmick? It's just another name. Like EDGE to 2G, HSDPA/WCDMA to 3G, and finally LTE to 4G.
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I'm pretty sure you don't understand the meaning of the word gimmick. You literally said what I said. Anyway, this is a non issue.
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I'm pretty sure you don't understand the meaning of the word gimmick. You literally said what I said. Anyway, this is a non issue.
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Hahaha
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Why gimmick? It's just another name. Like EDGE to 2G, HSDPA/WCDMA to 3G, and finally LTE to 4G.
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He just mean a meaning twice. That gimmick sounds funny:laugh: