I've seen this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
And since we're all pretty sure due to FCC filings that the Moto hardware supports band 12, could anyone tell me itd be possible to open this great budget phone up to t mobiles expanding 700mhz coverage?
Even if you unlock the band, without VoLTE support you wouldn't be able to make calls or send/receive sms messages. This is why Motorola disabled it.
Is that really so important though? Data coverage is all I really need. If there's 2g or 3g fallback texts will still come in, and I think I've gotten texts on lte only mode on my galaxy s4 even on roms that don't support VoLTE or WiFi calling, so texts might still work. Calling can easily be done over Google hangouts as a data call anyway. The coverage is most important to power users, not making it compatible with calls
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I'll be driving to Seattle from Chicago next week and I could use all of the additional coverage I can get. I really don't care if I can't get traditional voice / text, hangouts etc are perfectly fine stop gaps. I'm going to buy a Moto G from Best Buy and try this but with no band 12 near me I can't know if it actually is working. If anyone who has coverage in their area wants to give it a shot, I think everyone would love to know if its possible.
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Is that really so important though? Data coverage is all I really need. If there's 2g or 3g fallback texts will still come in, and I think I've gotten texts on lte only mode on my galaxy s4 even on roms that don't support VoLTE or WiFi calling, so texts might still work. Calling can easily be done over Google hangouts as a data call anyway. The coverage is most important to power users, not making it compatible with calls
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If the radio supports band 12, then you can definitely unlock it. Give it a try.
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If the radio supports band 12, then you can definitely unlock it. Give it a try.
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I returned my phone, and that guide seems to be very device specific. Since no one has done it for the Moto G 3rd gen yet, I could easily brick my phone with the only fix as "flash the stock FTF file" which seems to be some special file for sony devices? I'd rather not get in over my head and ruin a brand new device.
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I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55475431&postcount=1
But it's for 1st gen
Just so you know.. most of the twin cities area you'd be driving through has band 12 with t-mobile (multiple sources on Google as well as personal experience working at MSP). Band 12 probably wont be deployed anytime soon in rural areas because T-mobile is only using it in urban areas to penetrate buildings with lower frequencies with less line-of-sight areas. What you'd be wanting to look for is T-Mobile refarming their old 2G (EDGE) towers to LTE. Regardless, even with 2G coverage you can still get calls/text/Google Maps to work.
I travel all of North America for work and I'm in a different state every week. I carry a T-Mobile phone as my primary and a Cricket phone (through AT&T) as a backup. I know most people don't have that luxury of carrying two carriers with them, so I keep up to date on this stuff as best I can. People have been getting really mis-informed with this whole T-Mobile Band 12 thing lately.
Another trivial fact.. Minneapolis metro area is one of the best covered metro locations in North America for T-Mobile. Because they bought out VoiceStream, that was one of their top markets. I remember having them when I lived up there years ago!
Anyway, have a safe trip! I'm jealous you're heading to Seattle. Used to live out there as well and I woul do anything to move back! I just got married out there last December.
Hi everybody
Someone check the link shared by lockheed_man in a Moto G (3rd generation)?
Thanks in advance
Anyone with an unlocked band 12?
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Is that really so important though? Data coverage is all I really need. If there's 2g or 3g fallback texts will still come in, and I think I've gotten texts on lte only mode on my galaxy s4 even on roms that don't support VoLTE or WiFi calling, so texts might still work. Calling can easily be done over Google hangouts as a data call anyway. The coverage is most important to power users, not making it compatible with calls
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Regular sms needs a voice signal. If you got a text with only data it was an mms.
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I will be travelling to Europe in the next few weeks, and have some questions about using my inspire.
I have already unlocked my phone by calling AT&T and getting the code, then inserting another SIM, and entering the code. So I am good to go in that regard.
When I get to Europe, I just buy a SIM card and put it in the phone, which will allow me to make calls. What about overseas calls?
What about data? Do the SIM cards allow you to access data? Will I get 4G, or be restricted to Edge?
Honestly, I am more interested in Data than voice, as I am more likely to send/receive e-mails that call.
Would I be better off signing up temporarility with one of the AT&T international plans?
Thanks!
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I will be travelling to Europe in the next few weeks, and have some questions about using my inspire.
I have already unlocked my phone by calling AT&T and getting the code, then inserting another SIM, and entering the code. So I am good to go in that regard.
When I get to Europe, I just buy a SIM card and put it in the phone, which will allow me to make calls. What about overseas calls?
What about data? Do the SIM cards allow you to access data? Will I get 4G, or be restricted to Edge?
Honestly, I am more interested in Data than voice, as I am more likely to send/receive e-mails that call.
Would I be better off signing up temporarility with one of the AT&T international plans?
Thanks!
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Research the area you are going and find which the carriers are and see who's related to who. If you find a carrier thats somewhat related to att you may get 3g or 4g, but T-Mobile you'll get edge. Also call or get in contact with carrier and see what they have, dunno how it works overseas cuz i never really been overseas with my phone. Hope it helps and if anyone see anything I mentioned that's wrong you're welcome to A) correct me and B) call me mean evil names =D
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Research the area you are going and find which the carriers are and see who's related to who. If you find a carrier thats somewhat related to att you may get 3g or 4g, but T-Mobile you'll get edge. Also call or get in contact with carrier and see what they have, dunno how it works overseas cuz i never really been overseas with my phone. Hope it helps and if anyone see anything I mentioned that's wrong you're welcome to A) correct me and B) call me mean evil names =D
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Bluizzo you ninja turtle you. Lol just a slight correction. Europe uses different bands than us. So no 3g, just good old edge. Though I think I saw someone post that their country used our bands somewhere. But generally they use the 900/2100 for 3g.
I would get a prepaid sim from a euoropean carrier. They have way better deals that put our prices to shame.
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Bluizzo you ninja turtle you. Lol just a slight correction. Europe uses different bands than us. So no 3g, just good old edge. Though I think I saw someone post that their country used our bands somewhere. But generally they use the 900/2100 for 3g.
I would get a prepaid sim from a euoropean carrier. They have way better deals that put our prices to shame.
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Lol hey I was close shweet jebus
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Bluizzo you ninja turtle you. Lol just a slight correction. Europe uses different bands than us. So no 3g, just good old edge. Though I think I saw someone post that their country used our bands somewhere. But generally they use the 900/2100 for 3g.
I would get a prepaid sim from a euoropean carrier. They have way better deals that put our prices to shame.
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Yeah there are some countries that use the same bands
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The main countries that uses the same ATT band are Canada and Australia for 3G. The rest use the same bands Tmobile uses.
Thanks for the info. Looks like I will be picking up a SIM when I get there.
Hopefully my reply is not too late.....
I have been travelling to London for work for the last several months and have used O2 as the carrier on my Inspire. I was able to get a pay as you go SIM with a data plan. You will need to manually enter the APN information get the data and MMS working properly. I found the APN info by doing a web search.
And yes the service was Edge and not 3G.
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Hopefully my reply is not too late.....
I have been travelling to London for work for the last several months and have used O2 as the carrier on my Inspire. I was able to get a pay as you go SIM with a data plan. You will need to manually enter the APN information get the data and MMS working properly. I found the APN info by doing a web search.
And yes the service was Edge and not 3G.
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THANKS!!! I am in Ireland, and picked up a vodafone SIM card. Could get voice, but not data. Did a web search for APN, and found the APN on the vodafone site. Now I've got working internet. It is EDGE (I've got a G with up/down arrows), but is fine for what I need.
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THANKS!!! I am in Ireland, and picked up a vodafone SIM card. Could get voice, but not data. Did a web search for APN, and found the APN on the vodafone site. Now I've got working internet. It is EDGE (I've got a G with up/down arrows), but is fine for what I need.
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EDGE should be an "E". "G" is GPRS which is like 1G or worse, but hey, if it works for you, then great, but you should be able to get EDGE with the proper APN.
Gene Poole said:
EDGE should be an "E". "G" is GPRS which is like 1G or worse, but hey, if it works for you, then great, but you should be able to get EDGE with the proper APN.
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Can't seem to get EDGE, just the G. Which is OK, since all I am doing is checking e-mails.
However, my battery life has improved dramatically. I don't even need the powerskin case here. Battery lasts all day, no problem.
It's incredible how much battery is used by a fast network.
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Can't seem to get EDGE, just the G. Which is OK, since all I am doing is checking e-mails.
However, my battery life has improved dramatically. I don't even need the powerskin case here. Battery lasts all day, no problem.
It's incredible how much battery is used by a fast network.
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Indeed. Especially if it needs to boost the radio for reception. I was camping a few months back on the fringe of coverage area. The first day, I left mobile networks on and it kept going in and out of coverage and my battery was dead within about 14 hours. The next day, with a fresh charge from my car, I turned off mobile networks and I still had 80% battery by the end of the day.
Hey guys I have a question about straight talk service.my question is what is the best option between simple mobile vs straight talk.the thing is where I live T-Mobile service is only edge service so I called straight talk customer service and they told me that they run on T-Mobile and at&t so can I use at&t service on my Samsung galaxy s 4g.(at&t is the best service here now does any one here have straight talk on there phone here that can give me some advice..side note my phone is unlocked
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I currently am not on either one of those services. However if I understand correctly about the two services I believes Simple Mobile is the better service when it comes to data usage, however though according to research the two are very similar when it comes to coverage(they both use basically the same towers) the main differences would be data caps. Look into the data caps of both plans, but if what you are saying is true about T-Mobile having only Edge then that shouldn't really matter, go with the one that has the better speed, because if you only get Edge you'll never even get close to the data cap anyways.
I've even read things that say Straight Talk now owns Simple Mobile. How true that is I don't really know, do some research for yourself and make the best decision from your budget and your area, even if I had one of those plans my experience would most likely be very different than any experiences you will have because of the areas we live in. Try talking to people in your area that have one of the two, they would know a lot more about the service, speed, and coverage than anyone that doesn't live near you.
That's just my advice...
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just one thing you need to know. when if you go to att, the thing is you might not even get 3/4g but only edge because of the difference on frequency/broadband att and tmobile uses. i don't know about straight talk because never use it nor research what frequency/broadband it uses
The biggest issue is Straight Talk has a invisible DAILY data cap. And they dont just shut off the data they turn off the service completely. Ive been told to order the T-Mo sim from them not the att so you dont hit the daily cap.
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The biggest issue is Straight Talk has a invisible DAILY data cap. And they dont just shut off the data they turn off the service completely. Ive been told to order the T-Mo sim from them not the att so you dont hit the daily cap.
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the problem for me is that the T-Mobile service sucks here I only get edge and at&t service is the best here..
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tlopez1973 said:
the problem for me is that the T-Mobile service sucks here I only get edge and at&t service is the best here..
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I would use a data monitor for a couple weeks get a idea of how much data you use per day. Then decide if it is worth having to ***** at ST to get your account turned back on if you go over.
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just one thing you need to know. when if you go to att, the thing is you might not even get 3/4g but only edge because of the difference on frequency/broadband att and tmobile uses. i don't know about straight talk because never use it nor research what frequency/broadband it uses
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The SGS4G has a 1900 MHz UMTS modem, so you should be able to get at least 3G from the AT&T network (unless you live in one of their 850 MHz areas).
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The SGS4G has a 1900 MHz UMTS modem, so you should be able to get at least 3G from the AT&T network (unless you live in one of their 850 MHz areas).
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Sorry to tell you this can be your reference.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4g-3719.php
Clearly state that our device only get 3/4g from 1700/2100MHz and others are Edge/2g
I just switched from T-mobile to Straight talk due to the same reason as stated in the OP. The T-mobile coverage was bad in my office building and AT&T penetration in buildings is always claimed to be better. I unlocked my Galaxy S 4g using the helpful posts from here and ordered the Straight talk AT&T card. I can confirm that I do see 3G showing on my phone and the speed was great when it was 3G. But, its not always 3G, I do get in the Edge areas too often too. I am very happy because my voice coverage has improved leaps and bounds after switching.
I have read about the scary part where Straight talk cancels service if we go over some hidden limits. So to be safe, I ported my number over to Google voice and use that to make a call. This way, I can switch between phone providers easily without any porting issues. But, not sure if Google voice will remain free after the end of the year.
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I just switched from T-mobile to Straight talk due to the same reason as stated in the OP. The T-mobile coverage was bad in my office building and AT&T penetration in buildings is always claimed to be better. I unlocked my Galaxy S 4g using the helpful posts from here and ordered the Straight talk AT&T card. I can confirm that I do see 3G showing on my phone and the speed was great when it was 3G. But, its not always 3G, I do get in the Edge areas too often too. I am very happy because my voice coverage has improved leaps and bounds after switching.
I have read about the scary part where Straight talk cancels service if we go over some hidden limits. So to be safe, I ported my number over to Google voice and use that to make a call. This way, I can switch between phone providers easily without any porting issues. But, not sure if Google voice will remain free after the end of the year.
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Thank you guys all here for your responds I will try straight talk next month when my service is about to end with simple mobile.I don't have nothing to lose but the 12 dollar for:thumb ST sim card and 5 dollars extra ST service vs my 40 dollar simple mobile service :thumbup:
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Sorry to tell you this can be your reference.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4g-3719.php
Clearly state that our device only get 3/4g from 1700/2100MHz and others are Edge/2g
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Samsung doesn't advertise the 1900 MHz UMTS band for the phone, but it's there. I often swap out the SIM on my phone with my work iPhone, and the 3G works just fine.
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Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
The phone has to support SVDO in order to do voice+data on Sprint. Very, very few phones do (the EVO 4G LTE did, the HTC One didn't, for example). It requires a special antenna configuration as well IIRC.
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Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Too bad... Found more on s4gru regarding this:
"That is what we have been told. Sprint tri band LTE devices will not support SVLTE. Whether that is due to band 26 LTE 800, band 41 TD-LTE 2600, or the combination of the two, we do not know. And the sample size is very small right now to project unconditionally into the future. But the standard expectation going forward should be no SVLTE on Sprint multi band LTE devices. Simultaneous voice and data will have to be accomplished by other means, such as third party VoIP apps and eventually VoLTE."
I are a sad sprint customer lol. Also why I went with a multi carrier phone off contract June 2014 can't come soon enough, cause I loves this phone!
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I still have a family plan on sprint so if my data amount becomes an issue I'll go back but for now I'll sacrifice more data for fast and always available data, and at a rate of $45 I'll take it.
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This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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Nope, that's by design. It has to do with available radios. If LTE isn't on a separate radio it can't be used simultaneously. On the upside, having less radios means better battery life overall.
I love my S6, but I can't believe Verizon doesn't let you talk and surf at the same time, like you could with the S5.
I have advanced calling on, which theoretically let's you do it, but if you are not on LTE, it won't work.
Really Verizon? I thought we were in 2015.
Wait so if you're in 3g we can't do voice and data? That sucks been doing it since my note 2 days
I have no problem doing both while connected to advanced calling. However, if advanced calling isn't available, I can't surf the internet. This isn't a Verizon thing, it's a Samsung deal. They didn't include the radio to allow for it. This may very well have sealed the deal for me to take it back and stick with the Note 4. Being in a rural area a lot, I need both no matter what network is currently available.
It's a CDMA carrier issue with these newer phones that only have a single antenna for cellular radio.
Droid Turbo, Moto X, Nexus 6, HTC m9, etc...
It would be the same on other CDMA carriers such as Sprint.
I first noticed it when I got a Droid Turbo, and it was really frustrating. You also notice it when using SignalCheck Pro, on my G3 you see a 1X and LTE connection active, but on the S6 you see either or depending on your connection.
You wouldn't think it would add much cost to the phone with the second antenna.
VoLTE has always required LTE to function. The giveaway is the freaking "LTE" in the name.
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VoLTE has always required LTE to function. The giveaway is the freaking "LTE" in the name.
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I'm fairly certain everyone in here knows this. The issue isn't with VoLTE, it's that they left a radio out that allows talking and surfing without VoLTE. Note 4 and LG G3 could do it before they received the update that made them VoLTE capable.
You're confusing simultaneous voice and data with VoLTE. OP sure didn't understand that LTE is required for VoLTE.
What has changed is that Verizon is starting to ONLY support simultaneous voice/data VIA VoLTE, in place of extra radios.
Unfortunately this is Verizon's trend. In theory it should improve battery life vs a two radio system. In theory...
They're pushing for this and honestly I think it's a bad choice, at least in the short term. Calls while using VoLTE on Verizon are 100% dependent on your LTE signal. So if it gets too weak or you have to switch to 3G, the call drops. It also can be unusable if the LTE signal is weak. Verizon's FAQ even says if you're in an area of weak LTE or spotty LTE, to disable VoLTE. AT&T and T-Mobile have a fallback so the call won't drop.
To be sure that I am understanding correctly, let me ask it in a dumb downed way.
When you are on 3g and make a call, you can NOT use internet simultaneously.
If you make a call while in LTE, you CAN use the internet while in the call.
This has been the case with VZ and LTE as far as I can remember. No LTE, no internet+call.
Is this situation different? Think I am just misreading and not understanding.
EDIT: And to be clear, I am talking about the beginnings of LTE. Like in the Thunderbolt days. The advanced calling feature was not around that I am aware of.
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To be sure that I am understanding correctly, let me ask it in a dumb downed way.
When you are on 3g and make a call, you can NOT use internet simultaneously.
If you make a call while in LTE, you CAN use the internet while in the call.
This has been the case with VZ and LTE as far as I can remember. No LTE, no internet+call.
Is this situation different? Think I am just misreading and not understanding.
EDIT: And to be clear, I am talking about the beginnings of LTE. Like in the Thunderbolt days. The advanced calling feature was not around that I am aware of.
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There are a number of techs involved with have both voice and data for CDMA phones/network like VZW. In the past, VZW LTE phones could connect Data on the 4G LTE and have voice connection over 3G/CDMA simultaneously but on the newer phones like the Turbo, Nexus 6, S6 this is no longer possible UNLESS you have VoLTE enabled and are in a 4G LTE location.
The Thunderbolt actually can have both 3G data and Voice simultaneously and one of the few phones which could do that but the battery quickly dries up
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Ah ok, makes sense. That is what I thought, just wanted to make sure.
Guess I will hold on longer to my Note 3 and S3(love it)for a while longer. The S3 is still a great phone in my opinion. Does what you need, and fairly well. Plus you pretty much can recover from any brick status.
Sad to see the way phones are going. Locked bootloaders, no root, forced crapware, no sd card, built in battery.
Next up will be DNA link to your device for "Security". That silly fingerprint reader is so yesteryear.
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WTF? Am I the only one who needs to use data while on a long (conference) call?
I spend most of my time in metro areas with LTE, but Verizon wants to alter my unlimited data plan to activate voLTE. Not happening.
My VZW LG G3 didn't have this issue. I'm no expert here, but there won't be a root or ROM that is going to help me with this problem, right? This is a hardware issue, correct?
Looks like my wife is getting a shiny new Samsung phone.
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WTF? Am I the only one who needs to use data while on a long (conference) call?
I spend most of my time in metro areas with LTE, but Verizon wants to alter my unlimited data plan to activate voLTE. Not happening.
My VZW LG G3 didn't have this issue. I'm no expert here, but there won't be a root or ROM that is going to help me with this problem, right? This is a hardware issue, correct?
Looks like my wife is getting a shiny new Samsung phone.
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Talk and data works fine on LTE.
You won't lose your unlimited plan to use VoLTE, I use it just fine.
The G3 was one of the last phones to use two radios simultaneously. A ROM won't fix it.
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With the original Edge I know you sacrificed an antenna for the screen so no surfing and voice. Are you all saying even the regular S6 only has 1 antenna?
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With the original Edge I know you sacrificed an antenna for the screen so no surfing and voice. Are you all saying even the regular S6 only has 1 antenna?
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Yes. If you don't have an LTE connection and don't have Advanced Calling enabled, you won't get simultaneous voice and data.
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With the original Edge I know you sacrificed an antenna for the screen so no surfing and voice. Are you all saying even the regular S6 only has 1 antenna?
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It's all recent Verizon phones. The Nexus 6, Droid Turbo, One M9, S6, etc. None can talk and surf at the same time without VoLTE.
Yeah I'm guessing we are headed towards total VOIP.
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Yeah I'm guessing we are headed towards total VOIP.
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That's what Verizon wants. It would be great if Verizon had a fallback if LTE was weak or drops... but as it is right now, it simply takes what Verizon was known for (call reliability) and throws it down the toilet. Ok, it's not that bad... but in the years we were with Verizon before VoLTE, I really don't think I ever dropped a call. I'm sure that's not true, but it was rare. Since VoLTE, it probably happens a few times a month, easy, maybe more . And since I got the S6 last Friday, I've had 4 total due to what appears to be a weaker LTE signal in general on the S6.
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I suppose the device is not compatible with LTE-Advanced (4G+) or LTE-Advanced UHD (4G++) ?
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I'm not sure as I've never even gotten LTE on mine here in the states.
Never found 4G+ or 4G++, device no support. even no CA function.
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I'm not sure as I've never even gotten LTE on mine here in the states.
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Now that 3G (USA) is dead, I can't find a SIM card for data (that's all I want) that offers anything better than UMTS. I tried MVNO cards on ATT and T-Mobile, I'm trying Verizon next but it's pretty certain it won't work (SF Bay Area.)
Are there ROMS or any other solution to get 4G DATA in the USA? I don't care if VoLTE / voice works or not.
GEM-702L
(5.01; B006)
oaklandz said:
Now that 3G (USA) is dead, I can't find a SIM card for data (that's all I want) that offers anything better than UMTS. I tried MVNO cards on ATT and T-Mobile, I'm trying Verizon next but it's pretty certain it won't work (SF Bay Area.)
Are there ROMS or any other solution to get 4G DATA in the USA? I don't care if VoLTE / voice works or not.
GEM-702L
(5.01; B006)
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Nothing will work anymore after the shutdown. Verizon will most certainly not work and you probably won't even get Edge.
ajsmsg78 said:
Nothing will work anymore after the shutdown. Verizon will most certainly not work and you probably won't even get Edge
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ajsmsg78 said:
Nothing will work anymore after the shutdown. Verizon will most certainly not work and you probably won't even get Edge.
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So to double check, there are no upgrades, ROMS, hacks or any solutions for data? TIA
Looks like tethering is the only option if there is no WiFi. I just changed my phone to Tello w 5GB data for $20, 2GB more than I ever use in a month. (They have great customer and tech support too, light-years ahead of my experience with boost, freedom pop, or red pocket.)
oaklandz said:
So to double check, there are no upgrades, ROMS, hacks or any solutions for data? TIA
Looks like tethering is the only option if there is no WiFi. I just changed my phone to Tello w 5GB data for $20, 2GB more than I ever use in a month. (They have great customer and tech support too, light-years ahead of my experience with boost, freedom pop, or red pocket.)
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Nothing that I'm aware of. The lack of bands is a killer for the device.
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Nothing that I'm aware of. The lack of bands is a killer for the device.
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In France I strill use this device as daily driver with 4G all the time (701L)
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Nothing that I'm aware of. The lack of bands is a killer for the device.
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I just got this: US MOBILE GSM LTE (White) SIM and I get HSPA/HSPA+ ("3.5G") which is good enough for web browsing. I did not try the (Blue) Super LTE SIM. When you order a starter kit, you get both cards. Right now, starter kits are free.
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Djiban said:
In France I strill use this device as daily driver with 4G all the time (701L)
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I just got this: US MOBILE GSM LTE (White) SIM and I get HSPA/HSPA+ ("3.5G") which is good enough for web browsing. I did not try the (Blue) Super LTE SIM. When you order a starter kit, you get both cards. Right now, starter kits are free.
Is your phone compatible with Super LTE and GSM LTE? | US Mobile
Wondering if your phone is compatible with US Mobile? You have come to the right place!
www.usmobile.com
PS: the US Mobile white card is T-Mobile and I have tried other third-party service providers (MVNO) T-Mobile cards, which did not get HSPA (only UMTS, 2G).
oaklandz said:
PS: the US Mobile white card is T-Mobile and I have tried other third-party service providers (MVNO) T-Mobile cards, which did not get HSPA (only UMTS, 2G).
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You may get it in the area that you're in but when you leave it you may only have Edge.
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You may get it in the area that you're in but when you leave it you may only have Edge.
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I assume that. US Mobile lets you choose how much data, voice and text you want monthly, starting at $1. I'll keep a very minimal plan going and if I really want data (perhaps where my phone doesn't get it/I can't tether) I can top up. I'm used to having data on my X2 so we'll see, I might drop it.
oaklandz said:
I assume that. US Mobile lets you choose how much data, voice and text you want monthly, starting at $1. I'll keep a very minimal plan going and if I really want data (perhaps where my phone doesn't get it/I can't tether) I can top up. I'm used to having data on my X2 so we'll see, I might drop it.
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Yeah, in my area all of that 3G was converted to 5G so unless I travel to upstate NY or certain areas down south I get no service on the X2. I do get 3G in my house because I have one of those T-Mobile CellSpots that gives me service in my house because my area has poor signal on all carriers and the CellSpot still has the old bands but as soon as I leave my house, nothing.
I'm using the US Mobile mvno (TMobile) card and I get "4G" in the status bar, sms without a problem, and for calls, about half go through in and out bound. The other half hit dead air (nothing) or VM without ringing the device. A very low data plan with gobs of talk and text is $8. .... Before today I was rooted and had all sorts of system tweaks, and custom network settings held tight, even after calling. Due to a corrupt system, I did a factory reset today. So I notice it holds at 4G but occasionally goes to 2G (and network settings change itself) after trying a call....
What works is Preferred Network Mode = Global, and turning off automatic carrier select and choosing Tmobile. But it keeps switching back to Automatic carrier selection, and another of many of the network type options. It would be great to get Global to stick but I suppose the SIM has some way to override my settings. Is that something you can do in a custom ROM, block this?