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Looks like this is going to be a larger issue than I thought. Major Manufacturer defect it sounds like. Engadget mentioned it on test unit.
Android 2.2 has a white notification bar so people don't and wont notice it, but boot screen, games, or video's with black it is noticeable and is NOT acceptable. Android 2.3 black notification bar you'd see it every time you look at phone.
I just got my brand new G2x today, and noticed this in the first 10 seconds. I'll be getting it replaced asap. Sadly can't do in store replacement cuz ordered online, different systems. So I have to wait for another to come in the mail.
http://yfrog.com/h4ey8fmj
This is during a video, that is WAY to much, it is also on the bottom of same side, but not as bad. So for those that cant tell, both right and left of the top of the phone has bleeding
MyTouch4G left, and the G2x with bleed on right!
Not good at all.
I have this problem as well, hopefully the replacement unit doesn't have the same issue :/
I have the same problem. Replacement units plus brick and mortar launch I smell backordered
Called store and store purchases can be replaced, but if you bought online then you must go through online for the new one. I might just go buy one in store tomorrow, and return my online purchase. lol.
Instead of waiting for a replacement to come in the mail.. this is BS though, they had plenty of time to check for these sort of things.
Both right and left have it when in portrait. So holding the phone for daily use, you can't see it, but on the top, both sides have pretty bad bleeding, the left (not in picture) is not as bad, but very close. overall this is terrible to see happening on such an amazing device. All the excitement I had coming home to open this, went to **** within 10 seconds when I saw that on boot screen.
uhhh.
Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
Here is another shot using the app called DRAW!, screen goes black and you can draw on it, check out the difference.
MyTouch 4G on left, G2x on right. lol.
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Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
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That happened on mine when I skipped the setup wizard (hit "Exit") during the first bootup.
This is not good...
Calling T-Mobile about this **** tomorrow..... vibrant problems to sgs4g problems now this!?
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Try exchanging it.
A little part of me died when i saw this issue... I am going in the store early tomorrow... guess i have to take a hoodie to create a dark environment and check for bleeding... did this happen right away like out of the box or after a few reboots and such?
I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.
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I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.
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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...
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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...
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What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.
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What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.
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My HD7 has absolutely no bleed and it's an LCD...
Screen flickering???
Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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My Nexus always did this as well. I think this is more a problem with Android and adjusting the brightness too frequently based on small changes in light as opposed to looking for averages over a minute or so.
Luckily CyanogenMod 7 has incorporated several manual adjustments to how often this sensor changes your backlight and it makes a huge difference. Prior to that, I always just used manual backlight adjustment because it is pretty annoying.
I'm not nitpicking.. lol I can't believe people see that and think it is acceptable. you will see that everytime you look at the phone with Android 2.3 or any black bar mod..
I've heard from many that had this issue, and MANY that have zero bleed, so I will be replacing it to see if it is any better.
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Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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I would just use manual brightness anyway. Not a lot of people know this but keeping your screen brightness set to automatic will drain your battery faster than running it at full brightness. It's been tested on multiple Android devices.
Also have the bleed issue, has anyone heard if LG or Tmo have acknowledged the problem?
I am now on Nexus #4, serious issues with first 3. So #4 looks totally different. The colors are washed out and the UI seems weird. Such as when hitting the bottom of s scrollable screen, the yellow highlights aren't smooth but sorta jagged at the top. The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green. The stock nexus wallpaper also seems a bit weird up in yhr right corner. I'm running 2.3.4 but I'm almost certain so were the others since they were all purchased with s week. Please leave me some feedback guys, I'm begging ya. I can't see myself walking into the store to exchangeyet again. Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys.
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I am now on Nexus #4, serious issues with first 3. So #4 looks totally different. The colors are washed out and the UI seems weird. Such as when hitting the bottom of s scrollable screen, the yellow highlights aren't smooth but sorta jagged at the top. The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green. The stock nexus wallpaper also seems a bit weird up in yhr right corner. I'm running 2.3.4 but I'm almost certain so were the others since they were all purchased with s week. Please leave me some feedback guys, I'm begging ya. I can't see myself walking into the store to exchangeyet again. Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys.
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Well Which carrier? start there...did you root it..have u added a rom??
ALSO my NEXUS HAS GIVEN ME SERIOUS PROBLEMS.. WHICH makes my phone not functional. my problem is that the DATA connectivity has lost completely can brows or any simple thing that requires data.. tried numerous things, such as updating my profile which Fails, PRL, which fails, Every ## method i can think of. I also tried going back to stock VIA ADB... still no data, its as if i had a bad activation...AND SPRINT TECH are totally of no use..they cant even realize that the # methods are different..I am wondering if i need to enter anything in the settings??searched and searched google and i just think that the support on the device is so poor that google almost fails to recognize the problems in actual writing...Now im stuck wondering if i should go back to my EVO again!!!
I'm on sprint too and also wondering if I want me evo back. I do like the phone though and pure Google is awesome. I'm nit one of those people who just looks to break balls and get return after return simply because I'm able to. I've also had to purchase a new $30 zagg with each exchange so I'm out an additional $120. I can't imagine walking back into the store for my 5th nexus. They also said after 3 there not allowed to do exchanges for the same device, its time to get into a new one. I have read all the issues that the last couple of updates has brought to the color profile of the Nexus but I'm pretty sure the others were all on the same software. Can anyone confirm when 2.3.4 rolled out ota?
The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green.
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They've always been green when you have a signal ... white while you are acquiring a signal.
"Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys."
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Yep, always been this way. You probably didn't notice because of the incorrect colour space ...
"The colors are washed out"
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If you've read the forums you'll know this is a divisive point: some think the over-saturated purple-heavy colour space used prior to 2.3 is better looking, and some think that the correct colour space is, of course, correct. You make your own mind up. Read the other threads on the topic.
OK so after a bit more time with the phone here's what I'm finding.
I can't remember what software version the first batch of nexus units had but this one is running 2.3.4. I've read that one if the updates has totally screwed up the colors on the Nexus S but this seems to have been one of the updates the TMO version got, I think the ns4g shipped with 2.3.4. Still need someone to confirm this because if my first 3 were running earlier software then its possible that's why this one looks very different. It doesn't seem to be s faulty display because its really only the UI that's affected. Photos sbd such do not look washed out. When outside the deep dark blacks and vibrant colors come back, head indoors and the washed out display is very noticeable. Could this be an issue with the auto brightness?? I could really use some help here guys, especially if someone knows for sure if yhr Sprint version has been updated to 2.3.4 or if it shipped with 2.3.5. Thanks
Most of your questions are found by Googling or searching in the forums, but ill tell you what I know.
The green means that you are synced. White means that you are connected to internet but you're not synced ie you get no Google services. Gtalk, email, etc etc. You want it to be green.
As mentioned above, the washed out colors are from 2.3.3 and on. I think they changed the colors a little bit in 2.3.4 but they will still look "washed out" to someone who came straight off 2.3.2 and before.
Also, the washed out was not tmo specific. It was changed in the 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 OS which means that anyone with those versions will see this. Nexus s is a pure Google phone so the updates are all the same, not network specific.
If being in the sun makes the screen brighter or changes how your screen looks, then yes, that is the auto brightness trying to save you battery life. It does the same to me too. It's annoying I know because sometimes on cloudy days it doesn't brighten all the way but I still can't see the screen as clearly. You can change the brightness of the screen though.
Hope this helps.
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I've also had to purchase a new $30 zagg with each exchange so I'm out an additional $120.
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Zaggs have a lifetime warranty and even if you have to return your phone, take the Zagg off first and then go to Zagg.com and go to support and get a replacement. They will charge you shipping($3 I think) and as long as you send the old one back in within 60 days you will incur no more charges. Returning your phone is one of the options covered under their lifetime warranty.
Is there any way to check whether your screen has been replaced other than the obvious of taking it apart?
Reason I'm asking is because i bought a phone from kijiji and it was in immaculate condition and while it seems to be in great condition, the battery life is horrible.
I checked it thorougly before handing the money over, and like I said, immaculate condition.
One thing I did notice however in the morning when powering it on in my room in the dark, just a few seconds before the screen goes on, there are a couple of (what seem to be) blotches on the LCD screen and I wonder if it's not some kind of screen damage (ie - water maybe? or something along those lines). But it is screen related.
I have 5 months of warranty left (checked with the carrier, scanning ESN #).
Sounds like the screen has been damaged from what you have said. I would definitely send it back and get a new one since you are still within the warranty timeframe. I can't stand it when I notice something like that on my phone and it would bother me to not have it fixed. If you are sure that the screen is damaged in some way, then definitely send it back for a replacement.
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Sounds like the screen has been damaged from what you have said. I would definitely send it back and get a new one since you are still within the warranty timeframe. I can't stand it when I notice something like that on my phone and it would bother me to not have it fixed. If you are sure that the screen is damaged in some way, then definitely send it back for a replacement.
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You're right, I do plan on sending it in.
Was hoping one or a few of you could check your phones for me and look for something similar?
All you have to do is, power off your phone, go in a dark room, power the phone on and see if during the power up if any of you have any blotches under the glass on the LCD.
It shows up after the Darth Vader looking helmet logo in the Darkside Evo ROM, the screen goes grey but there's enough light inside to show the screen.
I'd really appreciate it if any of you could do this for me, plus it'd be good to know if I'm just a one off or if hours have this and have better battery life than I do... really wondering what's going on here.
Question to all of you Infinity owners. I don't have any major issues, light bleed, etc. However, i do have a concern about the 1mm or so black bar around the edge of the display between the black bezel and the actual displayed image (even on the main homescreens). Does your Infinity have this issue? It's not very noticeable, however, I am curious as to if I should exchange mine for a new one or if they are designed this way to not utilize the full display.
It's stock, not rooted, and not unlocked *yet If someone has the issue, please post PICS. I am at work and can't exactly do that with mine at the moment.
But, basically, it looks as if there is a 1mm or .5mm black "frame" around the display between the black bezel and the actual display imaged. Kinda reminds me of a double picture frame.
Can someone post a pic of there homescreen in as highest resolution possible, whether you have the issue or not so I can make a determination.
Thanks in advance
Mines got this, infact my phone and nook color has it too. Never noticed it before, probably will never notice after I hit enter. I imagine perhaps this is too keep light from the screen from bouncing off the framed bezel and creating a blur effect, just me guessing here.
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Mines got this, infact my phone and nook color has it too. Never noticed it before, probably will never notice after I hit enter. I imagine perhaps this is too keep light from the screen from bouncing off the framed bezel and creating a blur effect, just me guessing here.
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Okay, thanks. I really appreciate it. I didn't notice it on the Prime I had....
Anyone else? Can you post PICS if you don't or do please??
Trying to determine if I should return it for a new one or leave as is....as said in the OP, I don't have any other issue other than this...if it is truly an issue or if it is designed that way...
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Okay, thanks. I really appreciate it. I didn't notice it on the Prime I had....
Anyone else? Can you post PICS if you don't or do please??
Trying to determine if I should return it for a new one or leave as is....as said in the OP, I don't have any other issue other than this...if it is truly an issue or if it is designed that way...
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Anyone..please...
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Anyone..please...
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It's by design, I have it too and so is my brother's tf700.
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It's by design, I have it too and so is my brother's tf700.
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It seems everything has this, there's even this slight boarder on mon monitors I'm looking at now (all 5 of them!)
Thanks....kinda what I thought, but what is odd is that I didn't notice it on my Prime or my EVO 4G LTE. I guess it makes sense cause if you view it from different angles WO this border, it would cut off a mm or so of the screen (not a big deal), but it may be for some people.
Alright, thanks....Will keep mine then...
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Question to all of you Infinity owners. I don't have any major issues, light bleed, etc. However, i do have a concern about the 1mm or so black bar around the edge of the display between the black bezel and the actual displayed image (even on the main homescreens). Does your Infinity have this issue? It's not very noticeable, however, I am curious as to if I should exchange mine for a new one or if they are designed this way to not utilize the full display.
It's stock, not rooted, and not unlocked *yet If someone has the issue, please post PICS. I am at work and can't exactly do that with mine at the moment.
But, basically, it looks as if there is a 1mm or .5mm black "frame" around the display between the black bezel and the actual display imaged. Kinda reminds me of a double picture frame.
Can someone post a pic of there homescreen in as highest resolution possible, whether you have the issue or not so I can make a determination.
Thanks in advance
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Try an alternate launcher such as Apex or Nova. You'll find that you can change the margin setting which allows you to use the entire screen using these launchers. I don't understand why the stock launcher wastes so much screen!
I have posted this in SGS4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting but it's getting no responses there.
Most threads seem to be by potential buyers asking questions about the phone, while issues have topics here.
If this is not the right place, or the other topic is misplaced, please delete/merge either.
So, several people have reported this issue.
While booting, the black is actual BLACK. While charging, the black [not the green/grey battery] is actually BLACK.
When you reach the Samsung animation in the booting process, the areas of the screen previously black get a reddish tint.
On closer inspection, all red subpixels are on, at low intensity. As far as I can see brightness setting does not affect this phenomenon, nor does Display Mode.
i9505 On XXUAMDF:
Comparison, white image, lowest brightness:
Can people report their firmware and model and whether they have this issue? It's mostly visible in pitch black rooms, but you can tell the blackness isn't OLED-black in normal situations. It's obviously a big issue as it will also drain additional power compared to pixels that are off.
I have exactly the same issue, MDF firmware
You can send back to Samsung to get another one, it's faulty
Samsung chat (NL) tells me I should return to the reseller. I'm sure they want to send it back for repairs instead of a swap
Mine too
worrum said:
Samsung chat (NL) tells me I should return to the reseller. I'm sure they want to send it back for repairs instead of a swap
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I would have thought it's a software problem. I have noticed this too and now it bugs me. You're right, the first startup screen, it IS pure black, but going to the next animation, you can clearly see the red pixels come on when it's supposed to be black. But because it CAN do the black on the first screen, doesn't that mean it's something else?
Please let me know if you are able to get a replacement phone that resolves this issue. I think I have a few days to return mine, but you'd actually never notice it in most times of the day. You have to be watching the phone in pitch black to see it, and probably looking at a mostly black screen. But it seems like more that you're not getting the benefit of energy savings of "off" pixels.
There is a totally noticeable red tint to the black.
Rgds
It could still be a software problem, but then a lot of other people would suffer from it as well. I guess its just too unnoticeable. You really have to be in pitch dark, but once you know, it keeps bothering you I'm not sure of what to do. If the store says it will do a swap, I'll swap it. If they want to bring it in for repair, i guess I'll wait a bit for an update (another user reported that it fixed his problem).
Still, if its just a few reports, shouldn't it be some kind of defect, right?
I would really appreciate if other readers in this thread could check their phone for redness, regardless the outcome, please post your result and firmware version. Thanks
BTW, you can get an entirely black screen by
Dialer -> type *#0*# -> Vibration
Ignore the vibration and wait for your eyes to adjust from the bright white screen. Its hard to miss.
Have you seen this post?
Somebody in this thread mentioned black being a bit reddish (not turned off) and no smudge issue. After flashing another firmware the reddish was gone (pixel turned off) but now he got smudge instead !
So yes - I think it could be something do with delay turning pixel on/off
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Yeah, saw that too. Still weird Samsung tells me to go to the reseller if it is fixable with firmware. Having said that, shouldn't a lot more people be affected when it's a software issue? Good thing is, first boot screen is all black, so it's not the screen imho
Apparently the Note 2 also suffers from this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38280924&postcount=8
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It is hard to notice in a bright environment but once you know it's there you'll always see it.
Power savings, extra wear for the red subpixels, and non-black blacks = lower contrast. This needs to be fixed.
can people having red pixels issue check for screen smearing ? if im right then people with this red pixel issue wont notice screen smearing effect
Someone with the red subpixel problem should test for smearing.
If it doesn't smear, try flashing the same firmware as someone that has the smearing problem and see if it fixes the red subpixel problem.
This will confirm if both problems are hardware or software related.
Just got off the phone with my retailer. They are going to investigate the matter with Samsung (emailed them a picture) If it's faulty, it will get swapped. I will keep you updated.
Recieved a call from Samsung; they are not aware of this issue, but they are going to investigate the matter. In the mean while, i can exchange my phone, as they will consider it a DOA.
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Recieved a call from Samsung; they are not aware of this issue, but they are going to investigate the matter. In the mean while, i can exchange my phone, as they will consider it a DOA.
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This is a pretty big deal if Sammy says your phone is detective and needs to be replaced.
I'm afraid under this situation, there are quite a few S4's that need to be swapped out.
Good luck with the new one! Let us know how it is.
Allright, redness is gone, but now i have the screen smearing mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445. I am appaled :/
Same firmware versions, everything the same. Samsung has serious screen issues.
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Allright, redness is gone, but now i have the screen smearing mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445. I am appaled :/
Same firmware versions, everything the same. Samsung has serious screen issues.
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i told you just few posts back as of now it looks like either red sub pixels or smearing issue. its upto the people to choose. lets hope this is due to software.
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This is a pretty big deal if Sammy says your phone is detective and needs to be replaced.
I'm afraid under this situation, there are quite a few S4's that need to be swapped out.
Good luck with the new one! Let us know how it is.
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10 million units of the Samsung Galaxy S4 will be shipped to 50 countries by the end of this month ... link
Galaxy S4 Expected To Sell 30 Million Units In The 2nd Quarter ... link
LOL
Im having the reddish tint too.. makes no sense if its not a software problem.
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