i9505 | Red subpixels on while displaying black **PROBLEM** - Galaxy S 4 General

I have posted this in SGS4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting but it's getting no responses there.
Most threads seem to be by potential buyers asking questions about the phone, while issues have topics here.
If this is not the right place, or the other topic is misplaced, please delete/merge either.
So, several people have reported this issue.​
While booting, the black is actual BLACK. While charging, the black [not the green/grey battery] is actually BLACK.
When you reach the Samsung animation in the booting process, the areas of the screen previously black get a reddish tint.
On closer inspection, all red subpixels are on, at low intensity. As far as I can see brightness setting does not affect this phenomenon, nor does Display Mode.
i9505 On XXUAMDF:
Comparison, white image, lowest brightness:
Can people report their firmware and model and whether they have this issue? It's mostly visible in pitch black rooms, but you can tell the blackness isn't OLED-black in normal situations. It's obviously a big issue as it will also drain additional power compared to pixels that are off.

I have exactly the same issue, MDF firmware

You can send back to Samsung to get another one, it's faulty

Samsung chat (NL) tells me I should return to the reseller. I'm sure they want to send it back for repairs instead of a swap

Mine too
worrum said:
Samsung chat (NL) tells me I should return to the reseller. I'm sure they want to send it back for repairs instead of a swap
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I would have thought it's a software problem. I have noticed this too and now it bugs me. You're right, the first startup screen, it IS pure black, but going to the next animation, you can clearly see the red pixels come on when it's supposed to be black. But because it CAN do the black on the first screen, doesn't that mean it's something else?
Please let me know if you are able to get a replacement phone that resolves this issue. I think I have a few days to return mine, but you'd actually never notice it in most times of the day. You have to be watching the phone in pitch black to see it, and probably looking at a mostly black screen. But it seems like more that you're not getting the benefit of energy savings of "off" pixels.
There is a totally noticeable red tint to the black.
Rgds

It could still be a software problem, but then a lot of other people would suffer from it as well. I guess its just too unnoticeable. You really have to be in pitch dark, but once you know, it keeps bothering you I'm not sure of what to do. If the store says it will do a swap, I'll swap it. If they want to bring it in for repair, i guess I'll wait a bit for an update (another user reported that it fixed his problem).
Still, if its just a few reports, shouldn't it be some kind of defect, right?
I would really appreciate if other readers in this thread could check their phone for redness, regardless the outcome, please post your result and firmware version. Thanks
BTW, you can get an entirely black screen by
Dialer -> type *#0*# -> Vibration
Ignore the vibration and wait for your eyes to adjust from the bright white screen. Its hard to miss.

Have you seen this post?
Somebody in this thread mentioned black being a bit reddish (not turned off) and no smudge issue. After flashing another firmware the reddish was gone (pixel turned off) but now he got smudge instead !
So yes - I think it could be something do with delay turning pixel on/off
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40884474

Yeah, saw that too. Still weird Samsung tells me to go to the reseller if it is fixable with firmware. Having said that, shouldn't a lot more people be affected when it's a software issue? Good thing is, first boot screen is all black, so it's not the screen imho

Apparently the Note 2 also suffers from this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38280924&postcount=8

Nb

It is hard to notice in a bright environment but once you know it's there you'll always see it.
Power savings, extra wear for the red subpixels, and non-black blacks = lower contrast. This needs to be fixed.

can people having red pixels issue check for screen smearing ? if im right then people with this red pixel issue wont notice screen smearing effect

Someone with the red subpixel problem should test for smearing.
If it doesn't smear, try flashing the same firmware as someone that has the smearing problem and see if it fixes the red subpixel problem.
This will confirm if both problems are hardware or software related.

Just got off the phone with my retailer. They are going to investigate the matter with Samsung (emailed them a picture) If it's faulty, it will get swapped. I will keep you updated.

Recieved a call from Samsung; they are not aware of this issue, but they are going to investigate the matter. In the mean while, i can exchange my phone, as they will consider it a DOA.

worrum said:
Recieved a call from Samsung; they are not aware of this issue, but they are going to investigate the matter. In the mean while, i can exchange my phone, as they will consider it a DOA.
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This is a pretty big deal if Sammy says your phone is detective and needs to be replaced.
I'm afraid under this situation, there are quite a few S4's that need to be swapped out.
Good luck with the new one! Let us know how it is.

Allright, redness is gone, but now i have the screen smearing mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445. I am appaled :/
Same firmware versions, everything the same. Samsung has serious screen issues.

worrum said:
Allright, redness is gone, but now i have the screen smearing mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252445. I am appaled :/
Same firmware versions, everything the same. Samsung has serious screen issues.
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i told you just few posts back as of now it looks like either red sub pixels or smearing issue. its upto the people to choose. lets hope this is due to software.

Hoggles said:
This is a pretty big deal if Sammy says your phone is detective and needs to be replaced.
I'm afraid under this situation, there are quite a few S4's that need to be swapped out.
Good luck with the new one! Let us know how it is.
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10 million units of the Samsung Galaxy S4 will be shipped to 50 countries by the end of this month ... link
Galaxy S4 Expected To Sell 30 Million Units In The 2nd Quarter ... link
LOL

Im having the reddish tint too.. makes no sense if its not a software problem.
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Screen Burn-in

Anyone else notice what seems like to be a screen burn in on their Galaxy S6 (non-edge). I was outside today in direct sunlight for the first time and I pulled up google chrome (white background) and I noticed dark gray lines as depicted by the red lines in the pictures. Just curious if anyone else has this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/phone-please-try-thispossible-screen-t3072949
I have found exactly the same issue on mine. But it's only noticeable in direct sunlight it seems. At present it isn't a deal breaker for me but it's certainly a bit odd. Surely it's a little early for screen burn in?
BlameUREdiction said:
I have found exactly the same issue on mine. But it's only noticeable in direct sunlight it seems. At present it isn't a deal breaker for me but it's certainly a bit odd. Surely it's a little early for screen burn in?
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it's not burn-in, it's seeing through the screen to the assembly
Same here, Vodafone spain. Galaxy s6 black
ingenious247 said:
it's not burn-in, it's seeing through the screen to the assembly
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+1.
It's not screen burn in. It's the metal chassis behind the screen which you are seeing., which is only visible in direct sunlight.
Ok but is that normal?I have the same issue and at the store i notice the same issue on one new-out of the box device.Should we replace our device or this is normal?
I started a thread to this issue yesterday. Because I didnt saw this one.
Just replaced my phone because some issues with the display, flash led and this problem.
Think my replacement will have it, too.
For now I cannot anwer me the question if it is suitable to accept this for a phone in this price segment. The summer is coming and the issue will be there on a lot of days.
PerryRhodan said:
I started a thread to this issue yesterday. Because I didnt saw this one.
Just replaced my phone because some issues with the display, flash led and this problem.
Think my replacement will have it, too.
For now I cannot anwer me the question if it is suitable to accept this for a phone in this price segment. The summer is coming and the issue will be there on a lot of days.
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I think i will not settle for a phone at this price range and this stupid issue and i think that nobody should. I will just pick up Note 4 with Exynos if this issue is not resolved with the 3rd s6 device.
Me too.
On a teardown from ifixit you can exactly see the unit that creates these frame.
Thank you very much! I also experienced this on my Galaxy s6. I ordered a replacement and also noticed it.
Just to let you now guys.I tested 4 new s6 devices and all of them had this issue!!!This is a big thing and nobody is making the real fuzz abou it.So i picked up Note 4 with Exynos.Do not buy s6, wait for month of two just so they can resolve this.
I think it is a design problem and there will be no fix for it.
If that is the case, then ppl should make a big deal about it.I don not have this phone anymore but I would like to help if this issue continues.I will contact samsung via facebook and see what we can do.
I got my replacement yesterday and yes, the problem still exists. The phone is from Vietnam, 04/15/15.
The story goes on. After Amazon Germany stopped selling the black 64 GB edition I replaced my one against the white 64 GB. This one shows the frame on any background. Not only white. Only on very dark ones there is no see.
And I can see it under normal light conditions. Not only sunlight.
A very very very bad Display.
Why is it just this quiet about the issue? It's not less ugly like the flash LED or the wiggling home button issue.
My S6 (Germany; Mediamarkt) doesn't seem to have a a burn-in.
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3982/wj6uc78e_jpg.htm
Try this in direct sunlight please with max brightness.
It is not a real burn in. It is a frame of a used component that Lays direct under the display.
Real screen burnin
We were at the Verizon store today and noticed that all the Edge phones had real screen burn in. One had the Verizon logo burnt into the screen that you could see clearly from within any app with a white background. We used chrome and a normal web page to show the employees of the store. The galaxy s6 egde had some sort of Verizon demo bar burnt into it. It seems to be a problem with the screens. I googled for it and found this thread. I am surprised this hasn't become a serious problem for Samsung yet.
xeni said:
Anyone else notice what seems like to be a screen burn in on their Galaxy S6 (non-edge). I was outside today in direct sunlight for the first time and I pulled up google chrome (white background) and I noticed dark gray lines as depicted by the red lines in the pictures. Just curious if anyone else has this?
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Had a very bad screen burn in my S5 - i could actually see the title of the email app i have to use for work on a white screen without sunlight (title of the app is ALWAYS at the top when working in the app). Now had the S6 since it has been out and starting to see the same issue. Spoke with Samsung about this and they stated that the S4, S5, S6 and all Note devices are capable of getting screen burns with High Contrast imaging or lines. They said they could replace my screen but i would be without a device for nearly a month, and the carrier will not complete a warranty because the device still functions perfectly.
THANKS SAMSUNG!

Grey lines on display

Noticing a kind of very lite shade of greys in white screens irrespective of the brightness. No problem with any other colors. Can’t capture it in a snap. So tried my best to represent it in the image(attached). You can download the image and zoom-in and shake the image in the marked area to clearly see what I’m talking about. Anybody else having this issue? Is it huge issue as I will be working with photographs in the phone?
Just bought the device yesterday. Would be nice if someone can tell me how to convey this to the retailer without making him think that I’m crazy for a replacement. :laugh:
Unlocked model S7(flat)
I have found that all modern high density AMOLED screens have this to some extent. I bought 7 Galaxy S6s and none were perfect, with some better than others. 99% of people won't notice it. And even if you're someone who can notice it, sometimes it takes a couple weeks of owning the phone before you see it, and then once you see it, it's hard to unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're scrolling and move your eyes up and down the screen with the content as it moves.
gtg465x said:
I have found that all modern high density AMOLED screens have this to some extent. I bought 7 Galaxy S6s and none were perfect, with some better than others. 99% of people won't notice it. And even if you're someone who can notice it, sometimes it takes a couple weeks of owning the phone before you see it, and then once you see it, it's hard to unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're scrolling and move your eyes up and down the screen with the content as it moves.
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I saw it in the first day itself. Expected value for the price paid is not delivered means. It's cheating
Its very common on AMOLED devices unfortunately and my guess is that the vast majority of users cannot see it so lower # of units returned to samsung and they probably will blame it on QA. If a lot of consumers would start to notice it and demand for close to perfect panels then samsung will probably up their AMOLED game.
we bought 3 sgs7 phones all of them have this issue...how can such a company like Samsung do this ...like i cant see that LOL my vission on close distances is verry verry good so thats whay i saw those gray lines in a minute after buying one.i went to see my brothers gs7 after that and of course his one was the same and then after one week my father bought one white version so i thought that the 3rd one has to be a good one but NOPE it was the same story again...im very pissed so i will go to Samsung and tell them about it and will see what will they say...just to let u know guys i had similar problem on xperia z5 but instead of grey lines i had white ones and also some white spots and i send it to waranty and told them about the display issue and they have replaced the screen and now its perfect...so im goin to do that on Samsung aswell. good luck ppl
just to let u know guys i went Samsung and they replaced the screen but those gray lines are visible again so they sad that they cannot fix it and change screen everytime.... it looks like that alot of led panels are baddly constructed in the factory so i decided to return the phone.
I am on my 3rd galaxy S7. The 1st had the SD card connecting and disconnecting. The 2nd one the USB port would no longer transfer data(learned because VR stopped working) I am worried about the build quality of this phone....
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JovHok said:
Noticing a kind of very lite shade of greys in white screens irrespective of the brightness. No problem with any other colors. Can’t capture it in a snap. So tried my best to represent it in the image(attached). You can download the image and zoom-in and shake the image in the marked area to clearly see what I’m talking about. Anybody else having this issue? Is it huge issue as I will be working with photographs in the phone?
Just bought the device yesterday. Would be nice if someone can tell me how to convey this to the retailer without making him think that I’m crazy for a replacement. [emoji23]
Unlocked model S7(flat)
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I have exactly this same issue and it's driving me nuts! I cannot return my phone now, but it's very noticeable for me those grey lines when some other people I tried to show it couldn't see it...I hate AMOLED displays, I have never had a phone with an AMOLED display which was perfect, all of them always had some issue at some point. From Motorola, other Samsung, Huawei, all of them had some sort of issue with the display.[emoji35]
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Replaced once, too. Mine was not a perfect line, like gray dust splattered along a line. Especially visible with grayish flat images, there were clear fluctuations on shade of "gray". Second device is almost perfect. If you look with magnifying glass , there were some pinkish littttle dusty dots on white, but it is really hard to see with naked eye. So happy with second now.
This issue is present because AMOLED screens don't use backlight. Every pixel is emitting light, and my guess is that they aren't distributing the same amount of brightness on every area of the screen.
It's noticable, but as some said to a very small amount of people, and it isn't that much of an issue if u ask me. Bigger issue is that amoled screens burn in over time. I could see my keyboard on white background on my S5 after a year and a half of use. Thank god that s7 has themes so I can change keyboard layouts.
Everything comes with a price... LCD's have their flaws, and so do AMOLED's.
Good news, its just a software bug on Android M, just reflash it to Android N and it will be fixed.
bitterano said:
Good news, its just a software bug on Android M, just reflash it to Android N and it will be fixed.
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Not here, I'm running the latest beta on my s7 and the grey lines are still there, it's a problem with the display itself.
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Found a perfect solution
Found a complete solution here.
Works like a charm.
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My experience.
Hi all,
I have an unlocked, rooted, Nougat ROM S7 Edge and I have been experiencing the same issue for 3 months.
The only way for me to fixed it is to flash Superman ROM, then the lines disappear. Any other ROM (Elyos, S8 ports, ...): I have the grey lines. A kernel issue?
Cheers.
P.S.: Flicker free kernel used to work with Superman ROM but if I flash it after any other ROM, my phone gets stuck in boot.

S8+ AMOLED Display Quality (Red Tint Issue) - worse as previous Samsung devices

Hello fellow XDA members,
In the past I started some threads regarding Samsung AMOLED display quality, especially for the Note devices.
Please see here if you are interessted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
Now, with the S8+ (and the S8, the problem is the same), even the media recognized the display problems, known as "red tint", just google for it!
Samsung tells the people that this is due to wrong settings, and/or the adaptive display setting turned on! THIS IS NOT THE CASE!!!
I got 2 pieces of S8+ today, and both displays are not OK. One screen has the red tint issue, but only on the upper half of the screen.
The other device has no red tint, but is generally darker and looks more "washed out" and has a slight yellow tint.
So again the display lottery is back, it is only "luck of the draw" if you get a decent screen or not!!!
If you do not believe me just compare a few devices beneath each other with the exact same display settings. Turn adaptive display off, then go into the dialer and type *#0*#, with this you ensure the brightness settings are the same and you have the same sceen content on both devices. You will notice that every single device has a different screen quality (tint, evenness, ...)
What do you say? Acceptable or not?
With all of us over at the tmobile shipping thread we've been waiting and crying and hoping that we get our devices early....and then when we finally got our devices ****ty things like red tint leaves a sour taste in our mouths..sad really, samsung already made this device feel rushed with all the Bixby and fingerprint scanner awkward positioning and what did we do after the note 7 debacle? We forgave these fools...and now this?....i do feel bad for those that actually paid full retail price for these expensive devices and to unbox and realize the screen is pink...that right there is not how to say forgive us for our mistakes instead a huge f u to all the customers who were unlucky enough to get such a horrible display color....but I will say I won the lottery because out of the box my s8plus came out nice no red pinkish tint whites are white...but why am I still pissed? Because my note 4 was the same whites were white and then after a year or so my eyes were fixed on a strange color that was taking up half of the screen that came out of nowhere...so yes I will be forever paranoid with sammys displays now....if my s8plus came in like that I don't think I would've came back....but then again I'm here lol
Settle down guys, this will likely be fixed with a future fw given the attention its gotten, this is pretty simple for samsung to fix actually, all samsung needs to do is what video games have been doing for years; offer the user an option to calibrate based a sample image. Once thats in, the presets can be established based off of those generated values from the user selection.
It seems like they will indeed need to implement a fix of this sorts, because it does seem the displays hue varys from device to device.
Anyways, for the most part, I hardly notice it and it seems even, and the more I look at it, the more i can't make sense out of it? Seems to play tricks on my eyes... lol.
Beautiful phone and display though!
cantenna said:
Settle down guys, this will likely be fixed with a future fw given the attention its gotten, this is pretty simple for samsung to fix actually, all samsung needs to do is what video games have been doing for years, offer the user an option to calibrate based on a sample image provided, once thats in the presets can be established based off of those generated values.
It seems they will need to implement thia because the displays vary so from device to device.
Anyways, for the most part, I hardly notice it, it seems even, and the more look at it the more i can make sense out of it, seems to llay tricks on my eyes, lol.
Beautiful phone and display though!
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This is a hardware problem, a real software fix IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!
Samsung can only try to cammo the problem with increasing the range of the color-sliders in the display settings, so that you can turn down red more then now. But this wont fix that the red tint is NOT EVEN ACROSS THE DISPLAY!!
What else proves that this is a hardware error is that if you put 5 devices next to each other (with the exact same settings), each of them will look different in regard to screen quality! Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, see my previous threads regarding that!
I agree that it should be even otherwise you may have a hardware problem but my concern is your criticism has more to do with amoled in gerneral and what we are observing is a consequence of the tech used. Samsung is also pushing the boundries here too with the display tech so the norms for amoled to compare to may not even apply anymore. And your comment to my comment regarding masking the problem, there is a reason why every display on the planet has picture settings.. right? No 2 displays are exactly the same...
I just went through the crap with my Surface Pro 4 too, trust me, they are a good example of no 2 displays alike, must have went though at least 11 Surface Pro 4 on my mission for perfection display and I had to give up in the end because truth is, its still an awesome device!
that happens when you get the early batches of s8+
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that happens when you get the early batches of s8+
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Absolutely unacceptable reasoning. They shouldn't be putting out a product if the "early batches" are DEFECTIVE
Obviously it's a QC problem, which they seem to have some fairly big issues with, over and over.. They will lose customer faith if they keep doing this ****
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Absolutely unacceptable reasoning. They shouldn't be putting out a product if the "early batches" are DEFECTIVE
Obviously it's a QC problem, which they seem to have some fairly big issues with, over and over.. They will lose customer faith if they keep doing this ****
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Perhaps but then again why did you buy a phone from samsung in the first place?.....
I was in the Samsung store yesterday for the launch party. They had 3 S8+ on display next to eachother. Each was running the exact same retail mode, showing the exact same content at the exact same time.
One display was white, one was red hued, and one was pee yellow.
(No, it wasn't display calibration settings, I checked).
There are definitely quality control issues.
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I was in the Samsung store yesterday for the launch party. They had 3 S8+ on display next to eachother. Each was running the exact same retail mode, showing the exact same content at the exact same time.
One display was white, one was red hued, and one was pee yellow.
(No, it wasn't display calibration settings, I checked).
There are definitely quality control issues.
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And which of the 3 do you have?
I noticed a slight pinkish tint when the shipping screen protector was on, but looks ok without it.
Something slightly different this year is there seems to be a pink tinge on all four sides of the display (top, bottom, left and right). It's a very consistent along the sides of the screen and very noticeable, a few people here have also noticed it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/red-tint-screen-t3592335
So it's not just another pink/yellow/blue/green spotty tinge problem, theres now uniformity with the example i've provided.
I've got the S8+ and the screen is not red at all. The left and right edges if anything have a slight blueish tone to them but I believe this to be the effect of the screen curving to the sides distorting the colour (Colour shift?).
Unless you have bought one and have the problem with it, you have no right to complain.
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And which of the 3 do you have?
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Mine had a very slight pink tinge when I got it, at the very top and bottom (maybe half the status bar thickness), and it's since gone way.
The over all display color was a little too warm for my liking, so I knocked the red slider down to half, and now it's fine.
Got me and the wife one yesterday from At&t. No red tint and best phone yet. I love it.
My display is freaking beautiful and I love the fingerprint location. I never had any trouble. My finger finds it very naturally
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TML1504 said:
Hello fellow XDA members,
In the past I started some threads regarding Samsung AMOLED display quality, especially for the Note devices.
Please see here if you are interessted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
Now, with the S8+ (and the S8, the problem is the same), even the media recognized the display problems, known as "red tint", just google for it!
Samsung tells the people that this is due to wrong settings, and/or the adaptive display setting turned on! THIS IS NOT THE CASE!!!
I got 2 pieces of S8+ today, and both displays are not OK. One screen has the red tint issue, but only on the upper half of the screen.
The other device has no red tint, but is generally darker and looks more "washed out" and has a slight yellow tint.
So again the display lottery is back, it is only "luck of the draw" if you get a decent screen or not!!!
If you do not believe me just compare a few devices beneath each other with the exact same display settings. Turn adaptive display off, then go into the dialer and type *#0*#, with this you ensure the brightness settings are the same and you have the same sceen content on both devices. You will notice that every single device has a different screen quality (tint, evenness, ...)
What do you say? Acceptable or not?
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im not tying to be a jerk but just curious what happens when you cycle the --blue light filter-- button in the pull down menu with the wifi, Airplane mode ect.
reason i ask my displays is perfect but with the blue light filter on which is to reduce eyestrain ..then the display is very red
Really did not know they had this till i play around with it
Jonathan-H said:
I've got the S8+ and the screen is not red at all. The left and right edges if anything have a slight blueish tone to them but I believe this to be the effect of the screen curving to the sides distorting the colour (Colour shift?).
Unless you have bought one and have the problem with it, you have no right to complain.
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I have an S8+ as per my posts in the other thread, so I have a right to complain.
Firstly, it could well be fixed by software, even if its uneven, HTC had issues with the camera doing this a number of years ago (big red spot in all pictures). It was fixed with software
Secondly, it might disappear with time. AMOLED, OLED and other self lighting technologies (like Plasma in TVs) have a bed in time, where some colour ranges need to burn in. I would suggest a full red screen using a screen tester app for a few hours, to see if it beds in the red.
Guys, I would like to take this device, there is a possibility of having a faded display?

The pink screen

So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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Red screen*
When I got this phone in my opinion it was clear whit but tgen when I tried reducing the red colour it became even more clearer, I don't know it's probably I didn't pay attention to the colour when I got this phone...
In my opinion the blue light filter messes up the display although I know this isn't the case..
I got a replacement new phone as I cracked the screen on my first one, and my new one, if anything is slightly cooler / bluer than I usually like, no red / pink issues I can see. My last one was ever so slightly reddish even with red slider down.
for me it is fixed after:
- specific sw update
- set adaptive display
- set display tone to cooler option (-1 or -2 from the slide bar in display settings)
Out of the box mine is fine. I swapped my first one that had a pinkish display even when red turned all the way down.
mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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if i understand your question right then yes, there are devices without the ted tint issue!
I went into 4 shops and looked at 8 phones and everyone of them had the red /pink issue only 1 could you turn down red to reduce it in adaptive settings when it became blue/green white and all were red In photo and cinema settings
I bought my s8+ ten days ago, after two days I changed it because of pink borders... Before change, I powered on two new s8+, one were all red (not only borders), the other one was nearly perfect... But I had to choose another color (orchid gray) instead of my first black phone... It's a shame that we have to choose the phone from the color of display and not from the color of the phone...
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My screen is pretty noticeably green-tinted, but it somehow gets corrected when sliding the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, making the display more warm. Even though the issue is too much green, making the display warmer seems to fix it somehow. I know that the issue is green, because sliding down the green slider under advanced options fixes it, while sliding down the blue or red one just makes it worse
And pro tip, you can combine the cool / warm slider with the advanced options RGB sliders, if the warm / cool slider isn't enough on its own. Perfect mix for me is the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, and green slider decreased by 1-2. You could fix a bright red display with the combination of the general slider and the RGB sliders
I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
Funny thing about red screen and pink tint. I have my s8 plus since a week. My device came with lots of red tint, then I got an update that really helped, but still wasn't perfect. After few days my screen lost pink/red tint without adjusting anything. Of course, little pink tint on the edges exist but it's due to screen specifics.
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I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Ok, I will definitely try the calibration outside. I'm not sure I've tried it outside on a bright day yet. I am using the adaptive display setting and auto brightness, all of the other modes are quite pink and unusable, actually the tint is more of a magenta. I'm fairly certain its the adaptive display mode shifting my white balance in the various environments. Hopefully Samsung will somehow fix the other modes as well. The more I use my phone, the more I realize the biggest problem is the color shift that happens at angles. Almost any movement up, down, left, or right will produce a pink tint. If i go to an even stronger angle (around 75 degrees)the tint goes away. I can also get rid of it by turning both the red and blue down all the way and set the slider fully towards cool. The pink is gone when I do this, but then everything's really blue/green. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely give it a try and let you know how it works.
I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Are you on csc SEE ?
vimto25 said:
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Carrier?
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Carrier?
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XEU
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I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
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There is no chance I'd allow Samsung to "repair" my phone. This thing is brand new. You make them get you a BRAND NEW device out of a box you open in wherever you purchased it. Then you move forward in the store and check that display and all other fun things. Once satisfied, buy that unit. Why ever take a repair on something less than 1 month old. Have fun selling my OG unit as a refurb Sammy!

Display question/discussion

Have a Note 9 which I'm keeping, just got the Ultra and the display is a disappointment.
Side by side with the 9, colors are not as vibrant, contrast is so-so, sharpness is off. Fine details, icon edges, etc. are fuzzy.
Now, I'm anal about this kinda stuff. If I never saw the 9's screen, I'd never know and think it's fine, and to most, it would be. But this is me you're talkin' to. ?
I don't know whether to return it or pray for a Samsung fix. I'm not a gambling man. I've gone through every display setting and resolution there is, including dev options. I'm pretty experienced.
Maybe it's Nova launcher, but it's just not as nice as the 9's screen. Exact same home screen, icon theme, everything identical.
Your thoughts/opinions/gut feelings? Got till next week to return to Best Buy.
Thanks a lot,
Rich
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
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VICosPhi said:
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
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I posted in another thread that I got an app - Screen Balance - from the play store. With that I was able to get rid of more green as it has several adjustments for white balance. Use various adjustments judiciously. I like things cool. Seems *all* amoleds look green to me anyway.
Lest anyone thinks I'm spamming the app, since I mentioned it in another thread, I am not. Just a much happier user. ?
Doesn't solve the aforementioned problems though.
My gripe is temporary image retention. Using dark mode and gray screens, sometimes, the outline of the keyboard will remain on the screen for 5-10 seconds. I notice that if one uses the phone in light mode, it seems perfect, but once in dark mode, it has some minor flaws.
It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
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Oh geezzzz...that:s not encouraging.. looks like I'm holding on hoping for a soft/firmware update. A replacement would probly have the same or worse issue. No burn in here so far.
Definitely keeping my note 9!
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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Your screenshot looks clear to me on my PC, so if you are seeing burn-in then it will be on your screen and will need a replacement, what I was saying is you cannot send someone a SS to show them the burn-in, they would need to look at your screen with their eyes
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This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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warriorvibhu said:
Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Same image on the screen for extended periods can cause it too, so if you're always in WhatsApp chat or Facebook app and the same thing is always on the screen you'll be more likely to see it then too
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I did see the issues with the Samsung cases causing the burn in as well. What's funny is that if you speak to a supervisor at the Samsung customer service number and tell them about the screen issues and you have someone else with a Samsung phone call them back hours or a day later and get the same supervisor, they'll tell you that they never had one complaint about the screen. Unless Samsung instructs them it's an issue they can fix, they will not admit it. Still hoping Samsung can correct the yellowish greenish overtone of the general display.
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Scratches show even better ? :silly:

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